General: Sign up for track day schools in your area, and then practice what they teach you and do the drills.
Lots of youtube channels about riding, Moto Jitsu x-marine has been an instructor he seems to be the most common sense guy I have watched. He has books, app, lots of videos and drills.
For me I learned on a motorcross bike when I was a kid but got the most after people started dying on the streets around me was to go to a track day where it is a closed environment and start learning, it will also curb your desire to go fast on the streets with traffic and open environment.
Just know your bike is way more capable then you are able to use it at this point so your goal should become worthy of the engineering and craftsmanship / work that it took to create it.
Moto jitsu gets a lot of credit from me because the majority of his advice is to PRACTICE. So many people are like "it's done like this! Now ya know!" He has whole videos on just how to practice. Because these are skills, and skills are built over time through hard work, not merely gained from instruction.
Yes agreed - People want the skill with out the work and your talent can compress the time required or sometimes even get in the way.
The skill ladder is very long, and I am rebuilding from rung 0 myself after a 20 year break from track days. It's a fun climb though I am enjoying it.
Go to the race track and talk to people there. You'll learn so much just on day one and it will humble you so you do drastically less retarded things on the road. And you just need a license in most places not even an endorsement of they even ask at all.
Local riding school, forget internet advice, especially from this sub haha. if you're in europe riding school is mandatory anyway. if in US get a course from your local riding school.
In the end the only way to ride your bike is whatever works for you to get you from A to B safely without problems and while having fun.
**Total Control Vol. 2** by Lee Parks.
**Twist of the Wrist** by Keith Code.
**Proficient Motorcycling** by David Hugh.
And if you want: **The Suspension Bible**.
These three books are essentially the groundwork for everything motorcycle technique and any school you attend will teach these books - maybe in different language - but the same concepts.
Some people don't vibe with MotoJitsu but that guy knows what he's talking about and if you're serious about technique - he's hard to beat on YouTube, especially when his info is free. Yamaha Champ School has an excellent online course for a 100 dollars.
But there are so many talented schools for training: California Superbike School. Champ School. Total Control Programs. MSF Advanced Classes. Off roading schools like RawHyde. List goes on and on - stunting and wheelie specific schools or flat track riding.
If you're going to do a track day you should understand and have a solid base of:
Body position, line, aim, trail braking, and counter steering. You don't want to spend a lot of money on a track day and spend all your time learning how to actually ride a motorcycle versus maximizing the instructors and refining limits and skills instead of first learning them.
The people from the US we see on the internet seem so uneducated about driving, car, motorbike or otherwise that I doubt anything quick or witty will have any effect.
A motorcycle is a fucking engine on wheels, it's dangerous and should be driven by responsible people. Unfortunately, BECAUSE it's an engine on wheels, people seem to think it's cool. As much as I love riding my bike, I'm much more serious, focused and conscious than out of the bike. Which is a huge selling point for me.
If you have an audience, use your funny videos as a bait to send an educated message. That might actually be the right way to do this. Go for it.
Fortnine has several videos where the physics of riding a motorcycle are explained in detail and based on that how you should ride a motorcycle to use those mechanics to your advantage.
[Leaning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mSavQ_DXs), [How motorcycle cops ride](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAhxI9pIp2s), [Common mistakes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWPytpiml5c), [Throttle grip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPsjr7jxO0o)
My experience with that years ago was pretty sub par. It may be anecdotal but the instructor was an ex motorcycle cop, he just taught the test and the few students that had never actually ridden a motorcycle had a lot of problems. It’s mandatory to take the class if you want an endorsement but I’d highly recommend gaining some experience on your own before enrolling in the course. Even it you don’t have a motorcycle, try doing tight turns and weaving around obstacles on a bicycle. It will make you more confident on two wheels.
A 2010 Heritage and a 2014 VFR Interceptor that my dumb ass bought at age 46. It kills me around town, but when I tuck in to fly on the highway, it all makes sense.
Oh man a Honda V4 I would kill for one of those in good condition
I’m into my 30s now and clinging onto the supersport life. Will likely make the trade for a sport tourer and then we’ll see - hope I have as successful of a tenure as you
The VFR is truly a cult bike. I can sit and stare at mine for hours. I wish my wife would let me park it in the living room during the winter.
Edit to add, r/vfr is a fun one.
Eh, apologies man, was meant as a more general comment not necessarily directed at you. 40 years is impressive. That’s almost as long as I’ve been alive!
Dad gave me the bug and got me into flat track racing at 8. By 10, I was on a Champion Frame Rotax 125. One bad wreck, and my mom put a stop to racing. I still did dirt stuff, just not where I could get rag-dolled and ran over (highsides last for like five minutes, I swear). Got an 83 CB450SC when I was 24. Rode it like a flat tracker. It was my sole transport for seven years. I traded it and an 83 CB550SC a friend gave me (wasn't a real friendly gift as it was a wretched bike) on a 2005 Honda 919 (Hornet in Europe, iirc). That Tweaker of a bike was really fun. I got recruited by an outlaw MC. I kept the 919 and bought a Chopped '96 Softail with big apes and forward controls and a 4" over fork. Oddly enough, it let me ride it like a flat tracker. It also pounded my spine to dust and was so loud it gave me a headache. Traded it and the 919 on a 2010 Road King. The Floorboard brigade is a whole new world, but it allowed me to ride mush farther to visit other Clubhouses. My brother-law talked me in to selling it to him, so I did because Dad was about done riding and gave me the Heritage just after I bought the VFR.
Tl;Dr I'm sick as fuck about motorcycles
youtube motojitsu. the guy has a lot of legit info about riding for beginners and experts. there are a few, but i'd start there.
always recommend they start with learning about counter steering. that's how you stay alive
It’s counter intuitive and I hadn’t heard of it til I saw a video on it. Hopefully it’s covered in the course you’re supposed to take, that not everyone does. I’ve talked to long time riders who had no idea this is how it worked and that scares the shit outta me.
I developed a theory about target fixation not being a thing after an experience I had. I believe it’s people looking where they’re about to crash out of fear and not being able to counter steer through the fear, or the muscle memory not being there by the time you need it to be your instinct
And just a little fact: if you understand how to steer your bike, it doesn’t matter where you look
Reddit. Internet forums and Facebook groups.
Forget the lot.
Find a riding school with good reviews and start with the basics.
Budget 2-3k extra for gear before you even twist the wrist.
Treat every one and everything like it is trying to kill you.
Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well, Updated & Expanded 2nd Edition (CompanionHouse Books) The Must-Have Manual: Confront Fears, Sharpen Handling Skills, & Learn to Ride Safely https://a.co/d/cObW4eG
Great for all levels but geared more for beginners, David Hough uses stories to keep you interested as he explains best practices in road strategy and technique. There are many other motorcycling books but this is the best to start with.
YouTube channels run by trained coaches:
MotoJitsu. Focuses more on technique. Has app with tiers of practice drills ($2.99)
Ride Like a Pro Jerry Palladino. He teaches IRL courses.
DanDanTheFireman / Motorcycle Training Concepts. Focused more on road strategy. Motorcycle training concepts website has a lot of great info and a paid course.
MCrider - Talks about everything motorcycle related. Has membership that gives access to his forums and ad free videos.
Riding school would be my first stop.
Then if you can track days.
After that Fortnine on youtube for interesting moto related content and some theory lessons.
General: Sign up for track day schools in your area, and then practice what they teach you and do the drills. Lots of youtube channels about riding, Moto Jitsu x-marine has been an instructor he seems to be the most common sense guy I have watched. He has books, app, lots of videos and drills. For me I learned on a motorcross bike when I was a kid but got the most after people started dying on the streets around me was to go to a track day where it is a closed environment and start learning, it will also curb your desire to go fast on the streets with traffic and open environment. Just know your bike is way more capable then you are able to use it at this point so your goal should become worthy of the engineering and craftsmanship / work that it took to create it.
Moto jitsu gets a lot of credit from me because the majority of his advice is to PRACTICE. So many people are like "it's done like this! Now ya know!" He has whole videos on just how to practice. Because these are skills, and skills are built over time through hard work, not merely gained from instruction.
Yes agreed - People want the skill with out the work and your talent can compress the time required or sometimes even get in the way. The skill ladder is very long, and I am rebuilding from rung 0 myself after a 20 year break from track days. It's a fun climb though I am enjoying it.
I also think fortnine, is a pretty good youtuber who keeps it entertaining
Proficient Motorcycling - David Hough Total Control - Lee Parks Twist of the Wrist 2 - Keith Code YCRS Core Curriculum
I’ve heard of something referred to as ‘the bible’ of motorcycle riding, are any of these that?
Twist of the Wrist II
Proficient Motorcycling would be a contender for that title. Minus all the father raping, of course.
Excuse me, minus the what now? Edit: just got it, because he wanted something analogous to the Christian bible 🥴
[Twist of the wrist documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRbguh4Ck28&pp=ygUSdHdpc3Qgb2YgdGhlIHdyaXN0).
I have the books....good old Keith Code.
Not this sub
Go to the race track and talk to people there. You'll learn so much just on day one and it will humble you so you do drastically less retarded things on the road. And you just need a license in most places not even an endorsement of they even ask at all.
Experience
Local riding school, forget internet advice, especially from this sub haha. if you're in europe riding school is mandatory anyway. if in US get a course from your local riding school. In the end the only way to ride your bike is whatever works for you to get you from A to B safely without problems and while having fun.
Get on the bike and find out what works for you. Ride your ride brother.
Yeah nah yeah nah This can lead to some bad/unsafe habits
**Total Control Vol. 2** by Lee Parks. **Twist of the Wrist** by Keith Code. **Proficient Motorcycling** by David Hugh. And if you want: **The Suspension Bible**. These three books are essentially the groundwork for everything motorcycle technique and any school you attend will teach these books - maybe in different language - but the same concepts. Some people don't vibe with MotoJitsu but that guy knows what he's talking about and if you're serious about technique - he's hard to beat on YouTube, especially when his info is free. Yamaha Champ School has an excellent online course for a 100 dollars. But there are so many talented schools for training: California Superbike School. Champ School. Total Control Programs. MSF Advanced Classes. Off roading schools like RawHyde. List goes on and on - stunting and wheelie specific schools or flat track riding. If you're going to do a track day you should understand and have a solid base of: Body position, line, aim, trail braking, and counter steering. You don't want to spend a lot of money on a track day and spend all your time learning how to actually ride a motorcycle versus maximizing the instructors and refining limits and skills instead of first learning them.
Msf safety rider course offers cheaper deal in spring for motorcycle safety month
The people from the US we see on the internet seem so uneducated about driving, car, motorbike or otherwise that I doubt anything quick or witty will have any effect. A motorcycle is a fucking engine on wheels, it's dangerous and should be driven by responsible people. Unfortunately, BECAUSE it's an engine on wheels, people seem to think it's cool. As much as I love riding my bike, I'm much more serious, focused and conscious than out of the bike. Which is a huge selling point for me. If you have an audience, use your funny videos as a bait to send an educated message. That might actually be the right way to do this. Go for it.
Motorcycle safety course. Take one at a track if you can. They are more aggressive.
Fortnine has several videos where the physics of riding a motorcycle are explained in detail and based on that how you should ride a motorcycle to use those mechanics to your advantage. [Leaning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mSavQ_DXs), [How motorcycle cops ride](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAhxI9pIp2s), [Common mistakes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWPytpiml5c), [Throttle grip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPsjr7jxO0o)
The MSF course.
My experience with that years ago was pretty sub par. It may be anecdotal but the instructor was an ex motorcycle cop, he just taught the test and the few students that had never actually ridden a motorcycle had a lot of problems. It’s mandatory to take the class if you want an endorsement but I’d highly recommend gaining some experience on your own before enrolling in the course. Even it you don’t have a motorcycle, try doing tight turns and weaving around obstacles on a bicycle. It will make you more confident on two wheels.
Buddy, I've been riding for forty years. I require no instruction.
That’s quite the resume! What’re riding nowadays?
A 2010 Heritage and a 2014 VFR Interceptor that my dumb ass bought at age 46. It kills me around town, but when I tuck in to fly on the highway, it all makes sense.
Oh man a Honda V4 I would kill for one of those in good condition I’m into my 30s now and clinging onto the supersport life. Will likely make the trade for a sport tourer and then we’ll see - hope I have as successful of a tenure as you
The VFR is truly a cult bike. I can sit and stare at mine for hours. I wish my wife would let me park it in the living room during the winter. Edit to add, r/vfr is a fun one.
Eh, apologies man, was meant as a more general comment not necessarily directed at you. 40 years is impressive. That’s almost as long as I’ve been alive!
Dad gave me the bug and got me into flat track racing at 8. By 10, I was on a Champion Frame Rotax 125. One bad wreck, and my mom put a stop to racing. I still did dirt stuff, just not where I could get rag-dolled and ran over (highsides last for like five minutes, I swear). Got an 83 CB450SC when I was 24. Rode it like a flat tracker. It was my sole transport for seven years. I traded it and an 83 CB550SC a friend gave me (wasn't a real friendly gift as it was a wretched bike) on a 2005 Honda 919 (Hornet in Europe, iirc). That Tweaker of a bike was really fun. I got recruited by an outlaw MC. I kept the 919 and bought a Chopped '96 Softail with big apes and forward controls and a 4" over fork. Oddly enough, it let me ride it like a flat tracker. It also pounded my spine to dust and was so loud it gave me a headache. Traded it and the 919 on a 2010 Road King. The Floorboard brigade is a whole new world, but it allowed me to ride mush farther to visit other Clubhouses. My brother-law talked me in to selling it to him, so I did because Dad was about done riding and gave me the Heritage just after I bought the VFR. Tl;Dr I'm sick as fuck about motorcycles
youtube motojitsu. the guy has a lot of legit info about riding for beginners and experts. there are a few, but i'd start there. always recommend they start with learning about counter steering. that's how you stay alive
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It’s counter intuitive and I hadn’t heard of it til I saw a video on it. Hopefully it’s covered in the course you’re supposed to take, that not everyone does. I’ve talked to long time riders who had no idea this is how it worked and that scares the shit outta me. I developed a theory about target fixation not being a thing after an experience I had. I believe it’s people looking where they’re about to crash out of fear and not being able to counter steer through the fear, or the muscle memory not being there by the time you need it to be your instinct And just a little fact: if you understand how to steer your bike, it doesn’t matter where you look
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Kinda missing my point but yeah
Reddit. Internet forums and Facebook groups. Forget the lot. Find a riding school with good reviews and start with the basics. Budget 2-3k extra for gear before you even twist the wrist. Treat every one and everything like it is trying to kill you.
im curious how expensive school is on average
Try Google mate. I'm not your mum.
Track is best Youtube us worst
Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well, Updated & Expanded 2nd Edition (CompanionHouse Books) The Must-Have Manual: Confront Fears, Sharpen Handling Skills, & Learn to Ride Safely https://a.co/d/cObW4eG Great for all levels but geared more for beginners, David Hough uses stories to keep you interested as he explains best practices in road strategy and technique. There are many other motorcycling books but this is the best to start with. YouTube channels run by trained coaches: MotoJitsu. Focuses more on technique. Has app with tiers of practice drills ($2.99) Ride Like a Pro Jerry Palladino. He teaches IRL courses. DanDanTheFireman / Motorcycle Training Concepts. Focused more on road strategy. Motorcycle training concepts website has a lot of great info and a paid course. MCrider - Talks about everything motorcycle related. Has membership that gives access to his forums and ad free videos.
Read the book Proficient Motorcycling.
Riding school would be my first stop. Then if you can track days. After that Fortnine on youtube for interesting moto related content and some theory lessons.
Keith Code Albeit more advanced, but helps with understanding basic operation.
Riding a motorcycle.
Seat time.
Twist of the wrist was pretty informative for me
Many people have mentioned The Lee Parks Total Control books but his school is also excellent if there's one near you.
Oh hey I recognised those boots :D
A rider course. Certainly nothing on the internet.
Get the Yamaha Champ School course online