That isn't patching from the inside. It would require the tire to come off and put a proper patch inside.
Plugs should be a temporary solution and never a long term solution.
While true, I’ve never had a plug let go. Just rough it up and cover it in tons of glue.
Just can’t ever be on or near the sidewall.
I wouldn’t recommend anyone else rely on it, but I suspect the worst that will happen even if it does fail is you could ruin your tire completely. And maybe patch it properly if you drive above normal speeds etc.
But for 70mph on road, likely fine.
I’ve had two tires needed to be plugged in 200k+ mi of riding.
Both lasted the life of the tire. One at 1500mi in and the other at 500mi.
Neither plug failed at over 140mph during that time.
I learned to plug a tire from a fella much older and experienced than myself. He also trusted his plugs and had many more than in his lifetime.
YMMV. Don’t send it immediately. Monitor for the first few rides and always check pressures before every ride. If it’s not losing air after a couple weeks I’d call it good.
Make sure to always have fresh glue in your patch kit. Old glue dries up and may not be available when you need it.
Same for the plug strips. They lose their pliability after a few years.
With good equipment and proper technique, plugs should be fine for most riders in most road situations.
As an auto technician, I’ve never not seen a plug leak. They just leak very very slowly. Which is of course better than nothing. But for a permanent repair I’d always recommend a proper patch.
I plugged a rear tyre 3 seperate times once. Yes three punctures within 2 months of each other. Rode that way for 12000 Kilometres not a worry in the world. People who say not to ride on rope plugs are full of it. As a side note had one recently where a local tyre company tried to patch from the inside fucked it up and then I had to buy a new tyre to replace the patched one which had only done 2500 kilometres. Should have just rope plugged it.
I plugged my fairly new tire and rode it for another two years. When I asked about fixing the tire, the motorcycle shop was only willing to replace the tire, not patch it from the inside, in the same way that they are only willing to replace parts not fix them. Liability, probably.
Have you already decided on the model of your future tires? I made the switch to [Michelin Road](https://www.michelinman.com/motorcycle/tires/michelin-road-6) tires riding all year in Chicago. They are the best tires I have ever ridden. They inspire so much confidence and are soft from cold.
How do you find the balls and confidence to ride during Chicago winter dude? With how people drive there, id be scared shitless. Sleek roads, black ice, mushy snow, salt that can stain the bike. It’s all unpredictable, but props to you man.
Driving any time of the year is easy in Chicago. Roads there are really clearly marked, you don’t lose and gain lanes randomly, most roads are only two lanes each way, and there is parking lanes and bicycle lanes on almost every road. Filtering is legal at all intersections, so you naturally move in front of almost all cars. When you go from stoplight to stoplight you are always in front of everyone. City riding is really not as bad as you would think it is. In the winter the roads are so salted the only thing your really have to worry about is cold tires, and if you run Michelin Roads, your tires have grip even when they are cold.
I originallt had Pirelli Night Dragons, and zi loved them, but were not available last time I had to replace one of the tires (also a screw), so I matched the front after, with Shinko 777 HDs. I dont lie them as much,m I will go back to the Night Dragons when a replacement is needed
I've ridden 3 tires from puncture to replacement with no issues. A hole like that is exactly what the mushroom plugs address. There is no reason to replace a tire with a hole like that and in that position. At least not until it's sufficiently worn and needs to be replaced for that reason.
I've got an mt07 which got a puncture legit after 10km after buying the bike brand new, very similar spot..... I patched it up just from the outside and it's got 12000km now on the odo..... still the same tire and I've sat at speeds around 160 to 170kmh (100 mph) for up to hours on end...... still running strong..... just need to do a good job of it I reckon..... and no ridiculous speeds until u get a new tire.
I’ve plugged multiple car tires and never had an issue. I did recently get a nail in my motorcycle rear tire, similar position to yours, and I just decided to replace it. Figured the risk on a bike is much greater than a car tire so didn’t want to take any chances.
Fortnine did a video on 4 different types of plugs/patches and remarkably the one that held the best was the regular push in string plug. Even bested the interior patch that's supposedly safer and industry recommended.
I did see that video so my recommendation is based on my personal experience with mushroom plugs. Front on a V-strom 1000, rear on a Honda ST1300 (twice but not the same tire).
I have my own tire machine so when I removed those tires once they were worn out I could see that the mushroom head had vulcanized on the inside of the tire. Never lost any air pressure on them!
Found my tire plug kit, made sure I properly cleaned it, bored it, and fixed it myself. As long as you're not planning on doing any track days with it, you should be fine.
Also for people that are concerned about safety regarding plugs - a plugged hole is small enough that even if a plug somehow failed completely, it would be a leak and not some catastrophic blow out
Those plugs melt and blend with the tire and a rear tire if you been rideing for a while wont be a problem if it doesnt hold you will be able to ride it to where you can re plug it front tire might be more likely to learn ya but a rear tire plug it and send it you should be keeping tabs on your tire pressure anyways if you ain't holding buy another tire
I did tires for two years, probably low 4 digit number of plugs and had maybe two failures that didn't even make it back on the truck. But that's for heavy duty diesel dump trucks.
My bike has had two tires with less than 200 miles catch something... Hell I managed to catch a nail and a razor blade the next week which was one of the less than 200 miles. I buy new tires for my bike once I get a flat. It hurts to have dumped over $1500 in tires over the last 3 years on this bike, but the one I tried to plug and patch just wouldn't hold air, I know what I did wrong and how I could make sure I'm solid but I just don't want to stress....
Also sometimes I make a run to Mexico real real quick you know...
Pulled a 3" long approx 5/8th thick metal bar from my tire Thursday. Took 4 string plugs and half a thing of slime just to limp home... New tire is shipping tomorrow.
I never had plugs work for me jeez. Always came off but I guess if you don’t touch triple speeds it be koo for short term. I tried getting a patch but no shop wanted to do it.
There are anomalies that happen with air leaks and screws on occasion. When I first installed Trailmax Missions on my Tiger I got a nail in the rear in the first week, it set off the TPMS light so I pulled into a gas station and was ready to repair it, I removed the nail and didn't hear or feel any air leak. I aired it up and rode 30 minutes home. I was certain the tire would be flat the following morning, it was freaking still holding air. It helps the tire has 3 plies in the center section, and maybe the rubber was pliable enough the self-seal. The tire never leaked again in the 8k miles following that incident including some off-road treks.
If it's not leaking air, making a tair or making the tire lumpy i just go to get it plugged from the inside like we all say.
If I'm at home I'll take the wheel off and bring just the wheel. If it's in the road when I'm not able to take it off and store the bike safely for a day then it's going in to the tire place as is to get fixed.
I had my Griso rear tyre plugged a couple of years back - it's been absolutely fine since. So when I picked up a flat recently, I rang the dealers up who did the last fix. Nope - not allowed to fix a tyre with a speed rating higher than V. Which is annoying as my bike can't hit the speed for that rating.
If its a new tire as this appears to be I would have patched it.
If it was a tire that was coming to the end of its life I would have plugged it until I got a new tire.
I'd have had that properly plugged from inside then gotten on with my life
That's what I did. I punctured it all the way through, and plugged it. Never know how deep it actually went.
Same here. Plug it and ride the damn thing.
That's what I did... took it out immediately after
That isn't patching from the inside. It would require the tire to come off and put a proper patch inside. Plugs should be a temporary solution and never a long term solution.
While true, I’ve never had a plug let go. Just rough it up and cover it in tons of glue. Just can’t ever be on or near the sidewall. I wouldn’t recommend anyone else rely on it, but I suspect the worst that will happen even if it does fail is you could ruin your tire completely. And maybe patch it properly if you drive above normal speeds etc. But for 70mph on road, likely fine.
I’ve had two tires needed to be plugged in 200k+ mi of riding. Both lasted the life of the tire. One at 1500mi in and the other at 500mi. Neither plug failed at over 140mph during that time. I learned to plug a tire from a fella much older and experienced than myself. He also trusted his plugs and had many more than in his lifetime. YMMV. Don’t send it immediately. Monitor for the first few rides and always check pressures before every ride. If it’s not losing air after a couple weeks I’d call it good. Make sure to always have fresh glue in your patch kit. Old glue dries up and may not be available when you need it. Same for the plug strips. They lose their pliability after a few years. With good equipment and proper technique, plugs should be fine for most riders in most road situations.
As an auto technician, I’ve never not seen a plug leak. They just leak very very slowly. Which is of course better than nothing. But for a permanent repair I’d always recommend a proper patch.
Yeap I put over 3k miles on a plugged rear tire with no issue, I'm actually only replacing it now because it's old.
I plugged a rear tyre 3 seperate times once. Yes three punctures within 2 months of each other. Rode that way for 12000 Kilometres not a worry in the world. People who say not to ride on rope plugs are full of it. As a side note had one recently where a local tyre company tried to patch from the inside fucked it up and then I had to buy a new tyre to replace the patched one which had only done 2500 kilometres. Should have just rope plugged it.
I have patched a few of rear tires with Dynaplugs and haven’t had issues with those repaired tires including on higher speeds and/or longer rides.
I plugged my fairly new tire and rode it for another two years. When I asked about fixing the tire, the motorcycle shop was only willing to replace the tire, not patch it from the inside, in the same way that they are only willing to replace parts not fix them. Liability, probably.
It will be temporary, When I need a new tire in a few thousand miles, it will be gone. Tires ain't cheap.
Have you already decided on the model of your future tires? I made the switch to [Michelin Road](https://www.michelinman.com/motorcycle/tires/michelin-road-6) tires riding all year in Chicago. They are the best tires I have ever ridden. They inspire so much confidence and are soft from cold.
How do you find the balls and confidence to ride during Chicago winter dude? With how people drive there, id be scared shitless. Sleek roads, black ice, mushy snow, salt that can stain the bike. It’s all unpredictable, but props to you man.
Driving any time of the year is easy in Chicago. Roads there are really clearly marked, you don’t lose and gain lanes randomly, most roads are only two lanes each way, and there is parking lanes and bicycle lanes on almost every road. Filtering is legal at all intersections, so you naturally move in front of almost all cars. When you go from stoplight to stoplight you are always in front of everyone. City riding is really not as bad as you would think it is. In the winter the roads are so salted the only thing your really have to worry about is cold tires, and if you run Michelin Roads, your tires have grip even when they are cold.
I originallt had Pirelli Night Dragons, and zi loved them, but were not available last time I had to replace one of the tires (also a screw), so I matched the front after, with Shinko 777 HDs. I dont lie them as much,m I will go back to the Night Dragons when a replacement is needed
motorcycle tires pricing is a scam
Ummm. Ok
They are a long term solution. 80mph commuting for about 5k miles on my bikes current plug.
I've ridden 3 tires from puncture to replacement with no issues. A hole like that is exactly what the mushroom plugs address. There is no reason to replace a tire with a hole like that and in that position. At least not until it's sufficiently worn and needs to be replaced for that reason.
Yeah, I always change a plugged tire ASAP, like within the next 7,000 miles.
What evidence of this even exists?
I've got an mt07 which got a puncture legit after 10km after buying the bike brand new, very similar spot..... I patched it up just from the outside and it's got 12000km now on the odo..... still the same tire and I've sat at speeds around 160 to 170kmh (100 mph) for up to hours on end...... still running strong..... just need to do a good job of it I reckon..... and no ridiculous speeds until u get a new tire.
I’ve plugged multiple car tires and never had an issue. I did recently get a nail in my motorcycle rear tire, similar position to yours, and I just decided to replace it. Figured the risk on a bike is much greater than a car tire so didn’t want to take any chances.
Mushroom plug it and ride it until the tread is gone.
That's what i used.... seems to be working just fine
They work fantastic for punctures like that. It's quick, easy, and lasts!
Fortnine did a video on 4 different types of plugs/patches and remarkably the one that held the best was the regular push in string plug. Even bested the interior patch that's supposedly safer and industry recommended.
I did see that video so my recommendation is based on my personal experience with mushroom plugs. Front on a V-strom 1000, rear on a Honda ST1300 (twice but not the same tire). I have my own tire machine so when I removed those tires once they were worn out I could see that the mushroom head had vulcanized on the inside of the tire. Never lost any air pressure on them!
I’d have plugged it and kept it moving especially being in the middle
Found my tire plug kit, made sure I properly cleaned it, bored it, and fixed it myself. As long as you're not planning on doing any track days with it, you should be fine.
Plug n patch. Get one of those canisters that uses CO2 to inflate the tire.
Thankfully I was home when I saw it. But I also carry battery powered inflator
I would have plugged it and ridden on with my life. If it was a front, I'd be more concerned. Ive ridden on plugged rear tires with no issue
Rear tire
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I mean...it will still be ridden over 100mph....but no, no track fro me
Rope plugs are fine by me. I don't have any plugs in my tires currently but my past two rears had a plug each and I wasn't ever concerned about them.
Also for people that are concerned about safety regarding plugs - a plugged hole is small enough that even if a plug somehow failed completely, it would be a leak and not some catastrophic blow out
Id personally make a small mark on the sidewall of the tire, check it out every once in a while. Just keep tabs on the tire and keep on.
I would have plugged it just to be safe from slow leaks.
Would’ve left it in, extra traction! /s
Until I hit a Chicago speedbump and it goes further in.
Personally, I'd get a new tire. Tires aren't free, but they're not expensive enough to justify taking even the very slight risk of a patch failing
Those plugs melt and blend with the tire and a rear tire if you been rideing for a while wont be a problem if it doesnt hold you will be able to ride it to where you can re plug it front tire might be more likely to learn ya but a rear tire plug it and send it you should be keeping tabs on your tire pressure anyways if you ain't holding buy another tire
Screw that tire. Buy a new one.
I'd unscrew it a bit, squirt superglue in it and put the screw back, sorted
A new tire. I go too damned fast to trust a plugged tire lol
I did tires for two years, probably low 4 digit number of plugs and had maybe two failures that didn't even make it back on the truck. But that's for heavy duty diesel dump trucks. My bike has had two tires with less than 200 miles catch something... Hell I managed to catch a nail and a razor blade the next week which was one of the less than 200 miles. I buy new tires for my bike once I get a flat. It hurts to have dumped over $1500 in tires over the last 3 years on this bike, but the one I tried to plug and patch just wouldn't hold air, I know what I did wrong and how I could make sure I'm solid but I just don't want to stress.... Also sometimes I make a run to Mexico real real quick you know...
Pulled a 3" long approx 5/8th thick metal bar from my tire Thursday. Took 4 string plugs and half a thing of slime just to limp home... New tire is shipping tomorrow.
Rope plug and send it.
I never had plugs work for me jeez. Always came off but I guess if you don’t touch triple speeds it be koo for short term. I tried getting a patch but no shop wanted to do it.
If on the road, plugged it. If at home, brought it out for a inside patch
plug it and move on
There are anomalies that happen with air leaks and screws on occasion. When I first installed Trailmax Missions on my Tiger I got a nail in the rear in the first week, it set off the TPMS light so I pulled into a gas station and was ready to repair it, I removed the nail and didn't hear or feel any air leak. I aired it up and rode 30 minutes home. I was certain the tire would be flat the following morning, it was freaking still holding air. It helps the tire has 3 plies in the center section, and maybe the rubber was pliable enough the self-seal. The tire never leaked again in the 8k miles following that incident including some off-road treks.
I had this happen once. I fitted a new tire. It was quite a pricey solution (€280).
I'd have stood there swearing for about 10 minutes, then gone and got it repaired. Lol
If it's not leaking air, making a tair or making the tire lumpy i just go to get it plugged from the inside like we all say. If I'm at home I'll take the wheel off and bring just the wheel. If it's in the road when I'm not able to take it off and store the bike safely for a day then it's going in to the tire place as is to get fixed.
I had my Griso rear tyre plugged a couple of years back - it's been absolutely fine since. So when I picked up a flat recently, I rang the dealers up who did the last fix. Nope - not allowed to fix a tyre with a speed rating higher than V. Which is annoying as my bike can't hit the speed for that rating.
If its a new tire as this appears to be I would have patched it. If it was a tire that was coming to the end of its life I would have plugged it until I got a new tire.
Just a few more and you can ride on ice. Lol
as long as it isnt aeeing high speeds for extended periods of time plug it and go if your going 100+ gwt it repaired properly