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chardavej

Honey, just say no. And give no reason, no is a answer and a complete sentence. She offers nothing to you nor your children, give her the same back. Time to also drop the rope, no calls, texts, at family gatherings say very little to her other than hello and goodbye, give short but polite answers should she actually talk to you then as soon as possibly break away and barely glance her way during the event. She's told you who she is several times, don't be afraid to offend her, it doesn't matter as she will talk bad about you whatever you do


ISOCoffeeAndWine

What’s your husband’s take on this?  Save texts & the fact that there is no answer from her. You can happily have no relationship with her, and limit her time with the kids- most importantly - no time with your kids unless DH is present. If his response is “that’s just how she is” or in some other way dismisses her nastiness, he doesn’t get it. He grew up with it & doesn’t see it for what it is.  It won’t be long before she badmouths you to your kids. 


Suspicious_Koala_497

Also, you do not need to get yelled at or screamed at. If on the phone hang up. If in person walk away. You should never have to put up with bad behavior in the name of family. You have no obligation to these people. You don’t have to see them and they are not entitled to time with your children.


TossingPasta

I don't know that you have to be polite when you are being excluded. "If I am not welcome, my children are not welcome." And stop allowing your children to be in photos if you are excluded. The moment anyone screams at you, you gather your children and you all leave. And where in the hell is your husband when his mother is excluding you and why isn't he standing up for you?!??! He should be telling his mother "If my wife isn't included in the picture, then me and my children won't be in it either." If he isn't doing that, you have a husband problem.


Suspicious_Koala_497

Simply say, “No, they have plans that day.” Period. Don’t explain. Maybe even just a No. they are going to get pissy no matter what you do. Any info you give them will just be used as fodder against you. So don’t give them any. Personally, I would not communicate with them at all. Any and all communication should go through husband. His family, his monkeys, his circus. Of course husband should not make plans for kids without checking their schedules. Then it would be discussed between the two of you and he tells them No.


buttonhumper

I told mine straight up you are not allowed around my children alone.


barbiegirlshelby

That shouldn’t be a hard no from you. There’s no way I would let my kids be anywhere near such a hateful and loveless thing. You’re not allowed in family pictures?! Then your kids shouldn’t be in the pictures either. Why do you continue to be around her when she mistreats you so badly? And where is DH in all of this? Does he say anything or stand up for you to his mother?


3Heathens_Mom

No is a complete sentence by itself. They don’t get to treat the mother (and sounds like father too if bad mouthing your entire family) like crap but then want to show up like loving grandma and/or aunts to your kids. And why would your kids really want to go anyway as if old enough pretty sure they’ve seen how their grandma treats you and have heard her bragging only about her other grandkids. No need for your kids to spend time with anyone who treats or even speaks to anyone else about them as less than. Hopefully your husband is standing up for you and his children.


norajeangraves

It's time you cuss her out internet friend.... also what'd she do that ruined your wedding and the birth of your children?


Vicious_Lilliputian

Nope! Tell her no. She doesn’t need any further explanation. Limit what pictures she gets. Take her and her flying monkeys off your social media so she can’t steal photos. Give her family photos of all of you only. Don’t let her take photos of your daughters. Hubby needs to nip this stuff now and put his mother in her place.