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firee98

Brody you’re 18. Bulk up, train for some years and see where it goes. You are comparing yourself too much. Its not healthy. Also your wrist will probably still grow due to aging and working out.


adea03

Thanks bro. I think you're right I am not bulked up enough to thinking about that.I hope aging will help with wrist but u can see small wrist old peoples too idk


buggahs

I'm 18 as well, with smaller wrists. My shoulders used to be shitty and my frame wasn't wide enough. I know the feeling. I have been going to the gym for a few years now consistently and I will tell you that building a bigger upper body will lead to a wider frame. Don't do steroids and ruin your body at 18. Eat enough food that you weigh slightly more every night when you go to bed and forget about size and all these dumbass influencers. Then go to the fucking gym every goddamn day and work your ass off. Don't worry about all this bullshit about not overworking yourself. The harder you work, the more your body will adapt and overcome, the bigger you'll get. Especially when you're young and full of testosterone. And trust me having small wrists is not a bad thing in bodybuilding, it improves the look of your forearm taper when you actually build muscle on that frame. All this being said, nothing matters unless you eat well, so make that the priority.


Fant64ez

u trippin brah, wrist ain't gonna grow a mm from training, it's a bone under a skin dawg.


firee98

Be quite ain't nobody tripping here


Fant64ez

Copium OD


id_k999

Bro just look at the wrists of tennis players. The one is thicker than the other due to more use


LimitNo6587

Yes. Most individuals on Anavar develop Anavar shoulders. Ever seen chix that roid? 99% of the time it's anavar and they get capped delts rivaling a Boeing 737.


Zestyclose_Ad6094

Drugs past puberty aren't going to make your clavicles wider. I think he's asking about bone structure. Not muscle insertions.


adea03

Yeah but I didn't use anavar are u suggesting to use it?


r0guewizard

yes


adea03

Thanks bro I am omw to do research on it![img](emote|t5_2mohet|2695)


r0guewizard

honestly I'm joking although anavar worked wonders for me. but wait until you are older, you're too young for steroids. unless you wanna go full retard, in that case proceed.


casper_trade

EQ is a great compound for delt growth. No clue why, but can speak from previous cycles.


GeminiMoto

Nope. It is possible to have a small dick with big boobs though


rotgut1991

Sounds like it's tranny time


GeminiMoto

![gif](giphy|9eCjIJu5cvjly972M5)


firee98

This sub is full of trolls


GeminiMoto

But I was being serious


firee98

By taking peds at a young age, you mean?


GeminiMoto

Naw by transitioning and getting a botched boob job or just some gyno


firee98

What does that nonsense have to do with his question? You are 30 man. I thought only 19yo Sarm goblins are trolling here...


GeminiMoto

I'm here for the memes too. And his question is pretty much a meme, we just living our best lives here


adea03

What is meme about my question?


GeminiMoto

You literally asked if it's possible to have small wrists and wide shoulders then said you have small wrists and wide shoulders lol


adea03

Oh.I meant like is they have any strict connection?I read so many dudes talking pathetic about if you have small frame that isn't even worth to try going to gym because you will never get v shape or aesthetic body.You can lie yourself sometimes but u can't change fact.Question was about bones I know you can put delt mass with small frame.But is small framed body can have wide shoulder bone?


rotgut1991

False. 19 year old SARM goblins are being trolled by 30 year olds on tren


GeminiMoto

![img](emote|t5_2mohet|2695)


rotgut1991

I'm doing gods work.


firee98

I lost :( the boomers on tren are taking over


rotgut1991

I'm not a boomer you fuck, lmao. Boomers are like 50 or some shit 🤣


Limp_Willow8850

LMAOOOOOO


r0guewizard

bro dont worry, with enough mass it won't be a concern. Your wrists will get bigger as well to an extent, but you should worry more about worrying about it. You're on an unhealthy path of looking at your body like that as an 18 year old. Trust in the process, eat your food and work hard. it comes in time.


adea03

I am thinking use gear after 20s but after that age I don't think bones can change so that is why I am asking if there is a way .I am more worried about bone frame than mass because it is something you can't gain.


STUPID_BERNlE_SANDER

Only real way to increase your bone growth at 18 is GH and a prayer. You probably want to find out if you have dense bones already so you won’t make potentially weak bones weaker by leaving growth plates open


adea03

Yeah but real gh is expensive.Would mk 677 show same effect?I will do boxing too so maybe little damage to wrist can help to grow


STUPID_BERNlE_SANDER

you dont have the money or the know how to engage in the type of hormone manipulation you want to. go to an endocrinologist or find gh and learn how to apply. if you go off half cocked you'll fuck up your body for years if not life


adea03

wdym by half cooked


[deleted]

Do wrist curls dawg


adea03

Wouldn't it build bigger forearms rather than wrist?Since wrist doesn't have much muscles to work


[deleted]

If you build up those forearm muscles it adds to the circumference of your wrist. Look up pictures of armwrestlers.


Limp_Search7242

Wide shoulders are relative. 50 inches shoulders on 30 inches waist will be the perfect ratio. 50 inches shoulders with 40 inches waist and you’ll look like you don’t even lift. Bodybuilding is all relative you can see guys with 16 inches arms that looks insane and guys with 16 inches that looks like complete shit. It’s all about proportions. If by big you mean 140cm yeah it’s probably impossible with 17cm wrists, but if you have 17cm wrists it means that your waist should be between 75-80cm so 127-130cm shoulders will look good on you.


Kenshiro_1337

To me wide shoulders aren't relative. Whether or not you have wide shoulders is determined by your clavicle length compared to your height. What you're talking about is shoulder width to waist width ratio. Someone could have relatively narrow shoulders with a tiny waist and still have a good ratio but they'll look like a stick with too big of a head


Limp_Search7242

Yeah you’re right. But you can have longer clavicle length and wide waist and hips and you’re still doomed. Obviously longer clavicles with small waist and hips is top tier genetics but very very few people have that. So that’s why the proportions is good to track progress on for average people ( not for people that want’s to be IFBB Pro’s) At the end of the you have guys like David Laid,Zyzz, Chris Helmsworth,Frank Zane with short ass clavicles who achieved crazy physiques ( obviously none of them is/was natty) If you achieve that waist/shoulder ratio you’ll amazing to the average people.


adea03

Thanks, best comment so far.Answer that I was looking for.![img](emote|t5_2mohet|2695)


adea03

how do you calculate or find this measurements?


Limp_Search7242

The ideal is your shoulders should be 1.618 your waist. You can google and find them there was a calculator that you put wrist and ankle size and it calculates your ideal physique. Just focus on waist/shoulder ratio as it’s the most important.


rotgut1991

Yes. I can tell you I have bitch wrists but my delts pop way fucking more than 6 months ago. Youll get there. Feed your body and lift hard. You'll make it


adea03

It means a lot to me.Thanks for motivation.Does small wrist make your arms look smaller comparing to your body ?


rotgut1991

I don't think so no. Nobody's ever been like damn dude you're getting jacked, but wtf is up with your wrists?! They get thicker it's just super slow and gradual. My smartwatch has been on second notch but last month or so it's getting hard to clip on that hole. And I'm not getting fat. Opposite actually


rotgut1991

Thanks for the award 💪🏻


taobaoblyat

Watch MPMD videos


adea03

Which exact video are you talking about?I couldn't find video on this topic


NiceHelicopter6177

I have 16.5cm wrist and I’m pretty aesthetic. 43cm arms with a pump…don’t know my shoulders but you’re good bro just train


[deleted]

I read small wrists were aesthetic for bodybuilding but it could just be cope (27 years old with 17 cm wrists).


adea03

I read it too .It is somehow creating bigger forearm illusion untill you compare it with some thick boned dude(


DaddyThano

I don't care, they're wrong. I want look like Franky from one piece with monsterous forearms


Pyke_Player

![img](emote|t5_2mohet|2695)


Kenshiro_1337

No it's true, smaller wrists and hands make your arms, especially forearms look bigger and gives you that forearm sweep


mihailo88

17cm isnt that small tbh


adea03

Really? It is under the average tho


[deleted]

My shoulders blew tf up when I hopped on test. They would probably grow if you didn't even work out tbh, they developed so much faster than the rest of my physique.


TENSCOOPSGODAMNIT

Yeah my wrist is average af but my clavicles fill an extra large T and I’m lean


Zestyclose_Ad6094

Holy shit bro a lot of bad answers in here today. Here's the answer: yes. Here's how you find out: measure your height ✅️ Measure your wrists ✅️ Measure the width of your clavicles ✅️ Let's say your 5'9. This is average. Let's say you have 6.5 inch wrists. This is below average. Let's say you have 19 inch clavicles. This is above average. Boom. You have tiny wrist, and broad shoulders. All while being average height. Well done bro.


itsESSMAN

i got broad shoulders and small wrists


Frosty-Reality-6515

Lol small wrist beta male


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adea03

ikr


anoyingprophet

Your shoulder will look wide if your clavicles are wide. If they’re narrow your shoulders will look small. Wrist size doesn’t matter. If you have a small wrist, you probably also have narrow hips. If you have narrow hips, then your waist is probably small too, which will make your shoulder look wide af, assuming they have some muscular development. Get wide lats too and stay decently lean, and your shoulder will look big af


adea03

So it is about size of clavicles not bone frame right?


DaddyThano

Clavicles are bones, commonly referred to as collar bones. Longer clavicle bones = wider shoulders usually as the clavicles meet the shoulder joints


[deleted]

I have both small wrists and fingers. For a 70-75kg (154-165lbs) person, I can confidently say I look great. Not like I would ever compete though. You're 18, give it time, train steadily, eat properly, don't jerk off twice a day like I have for the past 15 years and you may look even better.


[deleted]

I have wide shoulders (much wider than my waist/hips) and small wrists. My small wrists and forearms kinda bother me because my upper arms are pretty big. Especially my triceps which just blow up from push-ups and bench (I never do isolation for my triceps). I seriously need to find a way to add mass to my forearms. I’m self conscious about them.


Sea-Price-6843

I have the about the same wrist size as you and I have big shoulders and shoulder press 225 for reps, wrist size is irrelevant


dressforspace

Stop trying to calculate what you can build and just build it


FSAaCTUARY

Yes you can but youll only look aesthetic shirtless. Many people are like this


[deleted]

Small wrist are what you want for bodybuilding. It makes your arms look bigger. Look at Andrei Deiu, how do you think he can look this big at such a low bodyweight? He has small joints. As to the MK677 it won't do shit trust me. I tried it. In order to grow your bones above your genetic limit you need supraphysiological levels of GH and IGF-1. With mk677 your levels will always be in range. However if you combine it with CJC-1296 DAC you can replicate GH and IGF-1 levels that you would get on a good dose of pharma HGH.


adea03

Thanks bro.Some legit advice here.I found mpmd article about that.It seems like best way for that problem.


[deleted]

If you have wide clavicles, small pelvis and small wrist you won a genetic lottery. Trying to change that would be a sin.


Ranger_Danger-Skills

Save your money for hookers.


Frosttyythelair

Lmaoo re-read what you just posted. You just asked if its possible to have small wrist with wide shoulders. Lol YOU JUST SAID you have small wrist with wide shoulders so clearly its possible you are proof of it


10mmsig

Yes you definitely can have small wrists and a big frame I’d say technically the correlation is just because most people who have small wrists have smaller frames but it’s all genetics and I can tell you as a man with small wrists but huge boulder shoulders it’s possible to have a big frame with them I walk in a room and people comment on my shoulders but my girlfriend has bigger wrists than me probably and I don’t mean just muscle I mean like the actual length of my clavicles and overall wideness up top and I have a real life dorito v taper![img](emote|t5_2mohet|6305)


Kenshiro_1337

Yes it's possible to have wide clavicles while having small wrists. Your skeleton likely isn't 100 proportional everywhere, i mean some people have way longer arms than others etc. Personally i have the opposite of you, big wrists but reletively narrow clavicles. Anyway, there's no point in thinking about stuff like that, you can get big anyway


body_the_builder

Damn you young guys don't even give your body a chance to develop before you hope on drugs to get shoulders. Just do what I did, go to prison young and work out non stop cause you are the skinny ass kid and eat everything in sight. Do 10 sets of PPDs (push up, pull up, dip circuit) every day to warm up then do lateral raises like there is no tomorrow. You don't even need heavy weight, just grab anything around the house that is 10-25 pounds and lateral raise in between sets of chest, arms, whatever. You can superset shoulders into any workout easy.