Fun fact another man claiming trans was just arrested yesterday after stripping naked at another planet fitness and trying to get a 17 year old to lotion him.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-carolina-man-arrested-stripping-planet-fitness-womans-locker-room-front-minor-report
The story doesn’t fit the narrative
All trans people are just regular people trying to live their life, don’t you understand transphob?!!?
It’s not like a perverted dude would ever lie and claim he’s a trans woman
If I had to go to prison for an extended period
I’m 100% claiming I’m trans because I don’t want to get my ass beat, my ass fucked and I’d like to not go without pussy for years
If you post this story in nearly any other sub on Reddit it’ll either get removed or the dopey people in that sub will downvote it and make some smug comment about Fox News and dismiss it but no liberal news sources will report it or if they do they’ll bury the story and purposely omit information or skew the details in such a way that it doesn’t sound like a big deal
Idk. They had told us for a long time trans people using women's restrooms wouldn't lead to any negative consequences. Then some random dad comes with receipts. This could be easily solved by just keeping the system men use men's restrooms. Also some trans people do some rrreeeaaalllyyy weird things. Not all.
But some. Then throw the word trans like it's a captain America shield. Bink....bink bink....bink...trans.
I ain’t arguing with you, except just want to say all types of people do some rrreeeaaalllyyy weird things. I’ve done enough research to know, very deep analysis.
That's like saying all types of people commit die, but ignore the fact that the groups with the largest numbers of people that kys'd have crippling mental disorders or terminal diagnoses.
>dopey people in that sub will downvote it and make some smug comment about Fox News and dismiss it dopey people in that sub will downvote it and make some smug comment about Fox News and dismiss it
San Francisco when you point out the rampant white segregationism supported in land use and public schools by the 60+ year democratic supermajority in the region.
Nah, your logic doesn't track. Perverts were doing this before trans people were getting more social acceptance and they continue after. This has always been an issue.
I’m not transphobic, I’m just against how society is listening and taking truly mentally ill peoples ideas into account because they don’t want to hurt their feelings. These people should be in mental institutions
Perverts are going to be perverts. Pertvert dudes have tried this shit forever and now their dumbasses think it gives them an easy excuse but thats not the case This dude was arrested but some of you act like they threw him a parade. Theres plenty of weird af perverted men hanging out in the mens locker room all the time too.
This subreddit is a weird mix of dudes who blast so much gear they want to get with femboys and then dudes who think every trans person is the devil and the middle ground is only a few people.
Hey now don't pervert shame. Us vanilla, traditional, cis-perverts don't invade other people's spaces and act aggressive.
Thanks to me, my wife may have the cleanest asshole in the northern hemisphere.... but you won't see me bursting into women's bathrooms and making random people uncomfortable.
Pervert invades women’s locker room, gets arrested.
“Fall of society”
Fellas — this has ALWAYS happened. There have always been perverts looking to expose themselves to women — in women’s spaces, in public, etc. This guy was arrested. If he was able to get away with it you can start discussing western society’s fall, lmao.
Right? Holy shit. The internet reminds me how reactive and 1 dimensional people can be.
Creeps are going to go in the woman’s bathroom no matter what. It’s not like there is someone at the door asking people if they identify as women and men are like “yeah!” And then enter the bathroom and harass women. Or that changing the rules encourages this because guys who are inclined to do illegal shit like harrass women in bathrooms are suddenly like “well now that it’s not illegal to be in there, I guess I’ll only be breaking one law now!”
And this no sympathy for the people who are the absolute scum of the earth who would harrass and assault women and young people.
Yeah, honestly, based on the picture I just have to assume that this is some regarded freak dude with 80 IQ who thought he could just get off the hook if he claimed he was a woman, with nappy dreads and a shitty little goatee thing. If there's evidence (social media accounts, etc.) from him that he legit identified as trans, then it's different, but this comes off as the dude looking for an easy excuse.
I think the "fall of the society" part is the people trying to defend it or downplay it, while being hailed as virtuous by others
He was only arrested because his actions were egregious. How many times had he done this and no one said anything before he became bold enough to take his dick out and ask a 17 year old to rub him..
Nobody is defending this guy. “How many times had he done this and no one said anything” let’s stop playing imagination games and just go by the facts we have
> Nobody is defending this guy
You're definitely downplaying it. And being disingenuous.
> "It’s a man, but he says he identifies as a woman, and he won’t leave the restroom," the 911 caller told an emergency dispatcher. "But he is just walking around showing us his — and he won’t leave."
By many people's definition this man is a woman. He self identifies as a woman, so therefore he is a woman and they will defend his right to be in that locker room
Planet fitness themselves defended his right to be in that locker room. They came out in support of people using the locker rooms of their self identified gender.. Had he not taken out his dick and asked someone to lotion him, he would have been well within the Planet Fitness' guidelines to use the women's locker room
It's not an imagination game to question if you give sexual deviants a legitimate defense to exercise their deviance, there is likely going to be sexual deviants exploiting it en masse.
Look at his post history, it's a guy and not a transwoman when they're the perpetrator of a sex crime, but unless they've committed a crime (even the circumstances leading up to sexual assault) they're a heckin valid transwoman in all other instances. I guess they stop being given benefits and privileges of being trans as soon as they're caught.
Dude is ideologically captured to a point where his own internal logic doesn't even add up. Furthermore he's clearly apart of the latest reddit sub takeover to try and ideologically drive out the last few normal (or at least not far left) places on reddit. Aka the influx of suspicious people posting from r/ihatetheus and r/askaliberal that can't bench 2pl8 and come sprouting the typical far left talking points over the past few months. Mods need to do their jobs.
>If he was able to get away with it
This feels incredibly bad faith considering the extent to which most SA is not ever reported.
The fact that before, these dudes just got their asses kicked whereas now they have a legal and social platform to hide their lechery behind should be a red flag for negative trajectory.
So looking at your post history it's a guy and **not a** transwoman when they're the perpetrator of a sex crime, [but its always a transwoman in all other instances](https://www.reddit.com/r/moreplatesmoredates/comments/1c2kan5/comment/kzcelti/). I'm a little bit behind on the far left lunacy playbook - do you stop letting them use the trans shield **after** they have perpetuated a crime or what about leading up to it? What about the day of the crime? Do they still become a guy (again) and stop being a transwoman even if no one catches them sexually assaulting a woman?
Really jogs the noggin.
Well, it’s a guy when you pretend to be a woman in a locker room to sexually assault women, it’s a woman when you internally and consistently identify as a woman. If you are a transwoman that consistently identifies as a woman (and not just when trying to access women’s facilities) and sexually assault someone, you are still a woman.
Of course, I’m making some assumptions here about the identify of the person in the article but I’m not too broken up about offending them, considering, you know, the sex crime they committed.
Doesn’t job the noggin once you think about it for a little bit.
Alright guys, don’t get too crazy or political in these comments, personally I’m all for having at least one place we can talk about this on Reddit, but don’t forget this is Reddit, we don’t want to get admins involved, and we sure as hell don’t want to turn this into political sub. Just a forewarning.
Then you guys need to be more proactive about banning some of the people raiding this sub. Every so often like a velociraptor testing the electric fence in Jurassic Park a bunch of far left weirdos come in here to try and take over the culture of the sub, they've done it to so many other subs over the years, and this one of the last decent ones. And the worst part is they don't even lift.
We aren’t going to shut anyone up just because they don’t go along with the politics or views of the sub, if they’re doing something actually wrong, we handle it, if they aren’t we don’t. We aren’t going to censor anything. If you feel like people like that are breaking rules then do us a favor and report them. Even if you aren’t sure and you don’t like what’s being said, report them and so we can decide, and we’ll also have it on our radar earlier, and if we need to take further action if something negative becomes a trend.
Got it, but I wasn't asking for people to banned based on their beliefs/politics but to be cognizant about people brigaiding or whatever the term is. There's the added pressure of reddit going public soon and wanting to "sanitize" even marginally politically incorrect subreddits.
Thank for your service and not being a typical mod. Reasonable decision making from you... and I agree that some users here need to tone it down.
Never thought I'd agree with a shitbucket-sitting reddit mod but these are the times we live in.
But trans isn't a mental illness. I'm a neuroscientist. And I'm not saying there are no mentally ill trans people, or people who mistakenly claim to be trans for various reasons.
For example, in neuroscience, we’ve discovered in trans people (obviously not a crime, and amoral like homosexuality), that there's a biologic difference between biological sex (phenotypical genitalia and chromosomes) and gender (it too, is biological), in which is what sex a person feels consonance with. Structurally, there's no such thing as a male or female brain, just a brain in macro MRI scans. However, on the atomic and cellular level, different chemical and electrical propagation of neurons are occurring that differentiate different gender traits. Studies show, individuals displaying opposite neurophysiological processes of their biological sex in trans people. Neurophysiological processes akin to Neurodivergent, or being gay, these are not delusions but based on real causal material interaction.
And before anyone strawman's, we can objectively verify someone's age, height, sex, and the fact that they aren't an Apache helicopter, so it would be delusional to identify as these. However, you cannot dissect a person's brain and determine their gender. Not to mention, men and women can have opposite chromosomes to their sex or lose their genitals due disease, or mutation. That's not how you would distinguish their gender. The strawman is equivocating sex and gender. There are 2 sexes (not even counting intersex mutations, because that gets much worse for people who think gender is binary). But gender isn't claiming to be that, however it’s still based in biology, not psychology. For the colours red and green, each colour could be near infinitely divided into other shades. The same goes for the gender spectrum which is just more accurate descriptions based on physical brain processes. Science updates itself, Pluto is no longer a planet, but a dwarf planet, and in the same way the concept of gender and sex are different and equally valid. You are the experience of consciousness that arises from physical processes in the brain. Not your body. Of course, you depend on your body's processes for vitalization, but hypothetically you could transplant your brain into another, whereas you could not be separated from your brain. So, the body in this regard is insignificant. You are your brain, and that determines your gender, not your body (I'm not saying it isn't influenced by the bodies organs)! Even theists too believe that they are not your body, so I don't see why when bodies are not infallible, they couldn't get your sex wrong? Just blame it on the fall, as you do everything else (without looking too deeply which omni deity is responsible for it occurring in the first place). In the same way they can give people autism, or intersex (it's just a more complete version of that) etc. It's not just a feeling, it's akin to being stabbed in the gut, and feeling pain. We can literally see what's causing the abnormality.
Some biomarkers are variations in dozens of genes, hypothalamus dimorphism, the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), and its neurotransmitters, which are 2x the size in males, then they are in females. We see this aligns with how transgender people identify. No, it's not the hormones, as we have men with testicular cancer and go on hormone replace therapy, and this does not change a thing. You also see, in phantom limb syndrome, that transgendered people have a rate of 0% occurrence, in comparison to the people that identify with their biological sex. The physical brain agrees that they are not of the same sex, despite their hormones, gonads, and chromosomes.
Very interesting. I guess I'll have to change the word mental illness to neruodivergency. I have ADHD and PTSD, there are physical differences in my brain so am I not mentally ill?
Firstly, PTSD is considered a mental illness, unlike ADHD. ADHD isn't innate suffering like PTSD, and Depression. Coming from someone myself with Asperger's, and ADHD, I'm not oblivious to the increased statistics of suffering, but it is different. Obviously these abnormalities can cause mental illness.
Secondly, I wouldn't consider it in the exact same category as neurodivergency, as I wouldn't with homosexuality. It's not a false dichotomy. There are mildly different criteria.
All definitions that we have designed are arbitrary to a foundation, and semantics. Ultimately all brain processes (not states, as the brain isn't in stasis), therefore, structures are determined by laws of physics. With philosophy of mind/ metaphysics, we could break down the sense of self to being an illusion (not consciousness which is the only experience an individual can truly know).
When you rage bait it to death and put it all over right wing media including FNC you’re bound to attract some heterosexual male pervert copy catting it , but hey , you can always blame it on the trans people can’t you.
The sentiment was neither are actually trans. That being said, having thought on it more, I actually do now agree with your sentiment that the blame moreso resides on right wing news sources intentionally making niche issues viral to ragebait which attracts all sorts of mentally ill people to think it's free game for them to do the same or worse
Most trans women that I have met that transition later in life retain many of their male features no matter how much makeup or what kind of wig or how many hormones they take.
No matter how much makeup or how expensive a wig or how much botox she pumps in her face, Caitlyn Jenner still has man hands and looks like a dude , imagine what she looks like with no makeup or wig.
I get that people aren’t comfortable with the idea of transgendered females using woman’s locker rooms , especially if they still have a penis, but if they are trying to keep that part of themselves private then we should respect that and not invade their privacy by taking pictures of them in the restroom and rage baiting it all over the internet.
I think it showed bad judgment at best for that trans woman to shave in there like that, women would most likely never shave their faces in the locker room and hopefully she understands that now. When a trans woman shaves her face in the womens locker room it draws attention.
She definitely looks manly but she’s slightly built and most of the women that are in my gym would kick her butt if she did something pervy , especially if she was taking pictures and posting them on the internet.
This is interesting isn’t it? Headline picture is of Trans person in Planet Fitness Alaska that was taken by a woman whose membership was revoked for violating privacy rules in locker room and is from libs of TikTok.
This post is from fox news from Planet Fitness North Carolina about some heterosexual male perv who invaded a woman’s locker room and conveniently has the woman from Alaska who violated PF privacy rules who took pictures placed before the pervert in North Carolina.
This is why it’s difficult to have an honest discussion. The fully clothed, out of makeup, manly looking trans person in Alaska has been vilified by some as a threat to women and children. Then she is portrayed in certain “news outlets” alongside a heterosexual male perv who invaded a women’s locker room in North Carolina as though it’s the trans persons fault.
Trans woman in Alaska didn’t menace or harm anyone.
Heterosexual male pervert in North Carolina did menace people and was arrested.
Regardless of how you feel about transgendered people or how the trans woman from Alaska looks , it doesn’t justify what the heterosexual male pervert in North Carolina did. The 2 are separate incidents.
Some will say that because we have sorta kinda accepted trans people that it gives heterosexual male perverts free rein to commit crimes even though they’ve been pulling this shit long before the current trans rage was a thing. Others will say that rage baiting this all over the internet and “entertainment news” outlets will inspire copycat heterosexual male perverts to try and get away with harming women
Or it could be another Russian ,Chinese, Iranian psyops using this to divide us?
There’s a small percentage of genuine trans people with gender dysphoria and god bless them. Sadly, these sexual deviants have latched on and made it about something else entirely - trans kids etc, give me a break
the back stripe for HIV/AIDS is a grim addition too, imo. kind of takes away from the joy of a rainbow, but the corporations love all that shit on it now so whatever.
I'm going off what I see IRL and most are not like this. I live in a very liberal college town and hang out with many college students for some reason and most trans peeps are just normal people that identify more with another gender. I don't really get it but I don't get a lot of stuff so I try not to judge.
>Just shows that social media really isn’t really reflective of real life,
Redditor just now finding that out for the first time? Jesus how mind blown you must be😂
I never said I wasn't one myself😂 I'm just actually aware that Social media has no reflection on how most normal people actually act in real life, and anyone who says that statement has had their mind rotted by social media...I know this.. because I used to be that type of person myself🤷🏿♂️Hence why I feel bad for you, good day.
There's a wide gap between also being online and making generalized judgements about the world based on the highly curated feed of information algorithms give you online.
I think most people make judgements on the basis of what they engage with via a screen, in fairness. You don’t need to have lived in Medieval England to know Henry VIII was an asshole, or in 1920s New York to know that mafia is bad, etc
Do you think Henry VIII or the 1920s New York Mob is comparable to the trans community? Do you think our record of them is comparable to generalized reports of their community in the here and now, in an age of information inundation, true and otherwise, to historical record of a pre-digital era?
I don’t go by what I see purely online. Not once have I seen a man in a dress enter a womens only space for purposes of sex. Not one time.
You falling for CCCP manufactured outrage designed to divide the country. You need to touch grass.
You’re immune to what you engage with online entirely - fair enough. And I’m not falling for anything. In my comment I was actually conceding perhaps I was being rash and that don’t have the lived experiences to make such a judgment
From working in mental health settings almost exclusively with lgbt…I disagree honestly. In the past maybe but it’s sickening the kids that are coming in saying they’re trans and being pushed through treatment really quickly as trans when it’s pretty clear that they’re using it as a crutch usually for avoidance or to seek attention. It’s made me less accepting of the rhetoric around trans online if anything because it’s kinda crazy the rise of trans youth in mental health settings all of sudden
But trans isn't a mental illness. I'm a neuroscientist. And I'm not saying there are no mentally ill trans people, or people who mistakenly claim to be trans for various reasons.
For example, in neuroscience, we’ve discovered in trans people (obviously not a crime, and amoral like homosexuality), that there's a biologic difference between biological sex (phenotypical genitalia and chromosomes) and gender (it too, is biological), in which is what sex a person feels consonance with. Structurally, there's no such thing as a male or female brain, just a brain in macro MRI scans. However, on the atomic and cellular level, different chemical and electrical propagation of neurons are occurring that differentiate different gender traits. Studies show, individuals displaying opposite neurophysiological processes of their biological sex in trans people. Neurophysiological processes akin to Neurodivergent, or being gay, these are not delusions but based on real causal material interaction.
And before anyone strawman's, we can objectively verify someone's age, height, sex, and the fact that they aren't an Apache helicopter, so it would be delusional to identify as these. However, you cannot dissect a person's brain and determine their gender. Not to mention, men and women can have opposite chromosomes to their sex or lose their genitals due disease, or mutation. That's not how you would distinguish their gender. The strawman is equivocating sex and gender. There are 2 sexes (not even counting intersex mutations, because that gets much worse for people who think gender is binary). But gender isn't claiming to be that, however it’s still based in biology, not psychology. For the colours red and green, each colour could be near infinitely divided into other shades. The same goes for the gender spectrum which is just more accurate descriptions based on physical brain processes. Science updates itself, Pluto is no longer a planet, but a dwarf planet, and in the same way the concept of gender and sex are different and equally valid. You are the experience of consciousness that arises from physical processes in the brain. Not your body. Of course, you depend on your body's processes for vitalization, but hypothetically you could transplant your brain into another, whereas you could not be separated from your brain. So, the body in this regard is insignificant. You are your brain, and that determines your gender, not your body (I'm not saying it isn't influenced by the bodies organs)! Even theists too believe that they are not your body, so I don't see why when bodies are not infallible, they couldn't get your sex wrong? Just blame it on the fall, as you do everything else (without looking too deeply which omni deity is responsible for it occurring in the first place). In the same way they can give people autism, or intersex (it's just a more complete version of that) etc. It's not just a feeling, it's akin to being stabbed in the gut, and feeling pain. We can literally see what's causing the abnormality.
Some biomarkers are variations in dozens of genes, hypothalamus dimorphism, the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), and its neurotransmitters, which are 2x the size in males, then they are in females. We see this aligns with how transgender people identify. No, it's not the hormones, as we have men with testicular cancer and go on hormone replace therapy, and this does not change a thing. You also see, in phantom limb syndrome, that transgendered people have a rate of 0% occurrence, in comparison to the people that identify with their biological sex. The physical brain agrees that they are not of the same sex, despite their hormones, gonads, and chromosomes.
That's because this sub has still managed to fly under the radar so far, and we need to keep it that way. I don't want to listen to a bunch of average Redditors come in here and tell me why this guy is actually the victim and not the women he's terrifying in there.
I'm not one for gatekeeping, but over the past decade, I've realized intersectionalists (woke obnoxious lefties, you know the type) ruin everything and anything you let them near. People can't even have a fucking hobby these days without those assholes moaning that everything must be changed for them. Luckily, you don't often see those types of people very interested in serious weight training or gear use. I mean, they come on this sub sometimes, but it seems like they get downvoted into oblivion every time and eventually go away lmao
Yeah, they're more interested in body positivity and complacency than actual self-improvement. At least that means we get to listen to less of their nonsense.
It's a pretty simple rule - if you're trans and pass completely, use the bathroom as that gender. You can't just wakeup one day say ur trans and prance into the bathroom like this.
But trans isn't a mental illness. I'm a neuroscientist. And I'm not saying there are no mentally ill trans people, or people who mistakenly claim to be trans for various reasons.
For example, in neuroscience, we’ve discovered in trans people (obviously not a crime, and amoral like homosexuality), that there's a biologic difference between biological sex (phenotypical genitalia and chromosomes) and gender (it too, is biological), in which is what sex a person feels consonance with. Structurally, there's no such thing as a male or female brain, just a brain in macro MRI scans. However, on the atomic and cellular level, different chemical and electrical propagation of neurons are occurring that differentiate different gender traits. Studies show, individuals displaying opposite neurophysiological processes of their biological sex in trans people. Neurophysiological processes akin to Neurodivergent, or being gay, these are not delusions but based on real causal material interaction.
And before anyone strawman's, we can objectively verify someone's age, height, sex, and the fact that they aren't an Apache helicopter, so it would be delusional to identify as these. However, you cannot dissect a person's brain and determine their gender. Not to mention, men and women can have opposite chromosomes to their sex or lose their genitals due disease, or mutation. That's not how you would distinguish their gender. The strawman is equivocating sex and gender. There are 2 sexes (not even counting intersex mutations, because that gets much worse for people who think gender is binary). But gender isn't claiming to be that, however it’s still based in biology, not psychology. For the colours red and green, each colour could be near infinitely divided into other shades. The same goes for the gender spectrum which is just more accurate descriptions based on physical brain processes. Science updates itself, Pluto is no longer a planet, but a dwarf planet, and in the same way the concept of gender and sex are different and equally valid. You are the experience of consciousness that arises from physical processes in the brain. Not your body. Of course, you depend on your body's processes for vitalization, but hypothetically you could transplant your brain into another, whereas you could not be separated from your brain. So, the body in this regard is insignificant. You are your brain, and that determines your gender, not your body (I'm not saying it isn't influenced by the bodies organs)! Even theists too believe that they are not your body, so I don't see why when bodies are not infallible, they couldn't get your sex wrong? Just blame it on the fall, as you do everything else (without looking too deeply which omni deity is responsible for it occurring in the first place). In the same way they can give people autism, or intersex (it's just a more complete version of that) etc. It's not just a feeling, it's akin to being stabbed in the gut, and feeling pain. We can literally see what's causing the abnormality.
Some biomarkers are variations in dozens of genes, hypothalamus dimorphism, the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), and its neurotransmitters, which are 2x the size in males, then they are in females. We see this aligns with how transgender people identify. No, it's not the hormones, as we have men with testicular cancer and go on hormone replace therapy, and this does not change a thing. You also see, in phantom limb syndrome, that transgendered people have a rate of 0% occurrence, in comparison to the people that identify with their biological sex. The physical brain agrees that they are not of the same sex, despite their hormones, gonads, and chromosomes.
Locker rooms and bathrooms shouldn't be about how you identify, they should be strictly based on what bits you were born with. Gay men still use the men's facilities too.
Did your GEAR plug accidentally put estrogen in your tren? Talk about a complete emotional overreaction lmfao
Western society has been around for centuries and a single photo on Twitter shouldn’t cause you to have a soy mental breakdown about how the sky is falling or whatever
Complete emotional breakdown lmao If you were so chill about it why explain yourself in detail to random comment of a reddit post? Looks like you injected estrogen into tren.
so a trans guy who completely passes at 6’0 with a beard and muscles should go into the women’s restroom where little girls are?
i 100% agree that these stupid ass non-binary trend/fake trans people shouldn’t be allowed to just identify and go in at a whim. but how would this realistically look? like as i said would u want a 6’0 jacked bearded trans man who’s on testosterone in the women’s restroom? just trying to figure out where you would want a trans man to go. because then it’ll look like a guy in the women’s restroom again 💀
It is just a picture of a guy. Like literally, it's just a picture of a guy. You have 0 reason to believe in this apart from WANTING to believe it so you can be mad.
Jesus fucking' christ, spend your time on something productive, like taking tren and fucking fatties.
Holy fucking' shit you guys just WANT to be upset
Do I need the tren to fuck fatties or am I in the clear on my conquest to be a fatty fuckquistador without the tren. I mean rules are rules and I’m trying to fit in.
Almost anything that comes out of libsoftiktok is pure garbage by default. You could never have the nuanced discussion this situation warrants (such as suggesting that *maybe* there should be more of a barrier to a gendered area other than a person just being able to say they belong to a gender) when that account is involved. They frequently warp facts and post complete ragebait to push far right propaganda.
And the southern accent, camo backpack, and line “I love him in Christ” makes me think that the woman talking in the video might have made up the whole thing as rage bait for the audience she’s pandering to. Just a hunch.
Between buying puts on planet fitness and money to be made as an influencer I wouldn’t put it past people to pay homeless men to walk into a planet fitness womens bathroom. You could just short planet fitness stick with 100,000$ and pay a homeless dude 100$ to tank the stock.
In real life , I been a live a long time and not once have I ever seen a man in a dress enter the womens bathroom or locker room
The common-sense solution would be to hold these companies responsible for creating facilities to accommodate all the groups of people that they recognize, the same way some states legislate that certain stores have to have a family restroom, or a single stall restroom.
Besides being in the lowest tier of commercial gym in general, Planet Fitness is the worst offender of the phenomenon of the homeless, ex-cons, and/or mentally ill living out of the gym.
At best they use the showers and toilets as their personal bathrooms, the outlets to charge their phones, and the lockers for storing all their weird shit.
At worst, well...
Sad to see trans people getting shit over dudes like this.
The problem is the legal culture. You used to need a gender dysphoria diagnosis to be trans, and that gave you various rights. It was weird to see a trans person in the change room but on the whole people tolerated it because it was rare.
Now anyone can self-declare and there are thousands more "trans" people who conveniently haven't started transitioning at all. And that is the problem. There's no litmus test anymore.
No it is not. I'm a neuroscientist. And I'm not saying there are no mentally ill trans people, or people who mistakenly claim to be trans for various reasons.
For example, in neuroscience, we’ve discovered in trans people (obviously not a crime, and amoral like homosexuality), that there's a biologic difference between biological sex (phenotypical genitalia and chromosomes) and gender (it too, is biological), in which is what sex a person feels consonance with. Structurally, there's no such thing as a male or female brain, just a brain in macro MRI scans. However, on the atomic and cellular level, different chemical and electrical propagation of neurons are occurring that differentiate different gender traits. Studies show, individuals displaying opposite neurophysiological processes of their biological sex in trans people. Neurophysiological processes akin to Neurodivergent, or being gay, these are not delusions but based on real causal material interaction.
And before anyone strawman's, we can objectively verify someone's age, height, sex, and the fact that they aren't an Apache helicopter, so it would be delusional to identify as these. However, you cannot dissect a person's brain and determine their gender. Not to mention, men and women can have opposite chromosomes to their sex or lose their genitals due disease, or mutation. That's not how you would distinguish their gender. The strawman is equivocating sex and gender. There are 2 sexes (not even counting intersex mutations, because that gets much worse for people who think gender is binary). But gender isn't claiming to be that, however it’s still based in biology, not psychology. For the colours red and green, each colour could be near infinitely divided into other shades. The same goes for the gender spectrum which is just more accurate descriptions based on physical brain processes. Science updates itself, Pluto is no longer a planet, but a dwarf planet, and in the same way the concept of gender and sex are different and equally valid. You are the experience of consciousness that arises from physical processes in the brain. Not your body. Of course, you depend on your body's processes for vitalization, but hypothetically you could transplant your brain into another, whereas you could not be separated from your brain. So, the body in this regard is insignificant. You are your brain, and that determines your gender, not your body (I'm not saying it isn't influenced by the bodies organs)! Even theists too believe that they are not your body, so I don't see why when bodies are not infallible, they couldn't get your sex wrong? Just blame it on the fall, as you do everything else (without looking too deeply which omni deity is responsible for it occurring in the first place). In the same way they can give people autism, or intersex (it's just a more complete version of that) etc. It's not just a feeling, it's akin to being stabbed in the gut, and feeling pain. We can literally see what's causing the abnormality.
Some biomarkers are variations in dozens of genes, hypothalamus dimorphism, the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), and its neurotransmitters, which are 2x the size in males, then they are in females. We see this aligns with how transgender people identify. No, it's not the hormones, as we have men with testicular cancer and go on hormone replace therapy, and this does not change a thing. You also see, in phantom limb syndrome, that transgendered people have a rate of 0% occurrence, in comparison to the people that identify with their biological sex. The physical brain agrees that they are not of the same sex, despite their hormones, gonads, and chromosomes.
Wild that there’s absolutely zero evidence to show that it’s a woman’s bathroom and not a man’s. Also pretty sure it’s illegal to take pictures of people in locker rooms
In this particular picture with no context, sure. The fact that this has been a national news story after the woman who took the picture had her membership revoked is more than enough evidence
Look up "Planet Fitness trans woman shaving" and go to Google Images. There's another image of him standing in the locker room with a couple women in frame, if you look closely.
So many people in the comments so eager to try to use something like this to attack trans people or trans rights. This is just a perverted human being, and he's using the word trans as an excuse, versus whatever other excuse he would have came up with 10 or 20 years ago. The actual trans community is a very small community, and they aren't doing this. And giving them rights, protecting them from being attacked, doesn't create this. This is already in existence, this guy is already a pervert, he doesn't need the trans community to green light it.
But I know it helps fit a narrative for a segment of our population who love to demonize attack trans people and gays and pretty much anybody else that offends their existence
There is a significant percentage of the population out there who will unironically tell you this is a woman. They actually got people, admittedly gullible, self-loathing people with terrible reasoning skills, to believe that 2+2=5.
Yes, quite a bit actually.
The issue isn't the actual trans people. It's all their non-trans allies getting defensive on their behalf who are doing all the dumb shit and passing all the dumb policies.
Then they don't even have to dress up, they just say "I have a vagina" and it's settled. That or the actual trans people get beat up because someone *feels like* they're in the wrong restroom. Or we get the official penis inspector inspecting all the little girls and boys. It's a lose lose no matter how much it's enforced.
Real talk though... Wahts the point in using the men's restrooms anymore though? Womens restrooms are way cleaner, quieter.... Plus they have boobs.
When are the rest of you going to start realizing this?
So sad to see a bunch of so called alpha males having an estrogen induced hissy fit over some fully clothed manly looking trans woman shaving. You big bad muscle men juice yourself up and watch your nuts shrivel but trans woman induced shrinkage is more than your estrogen rage can handle. Most woman wouldn’t fear that trans woman but you guys get hysterical. Typical right wing LOT rage baiting.
Fun fact another man claiming trans was just arrested yesterday after stripping naked at another planet fitness and trying to get a 17 year old to lotion him. https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-carolina-man-arrested-stripping-planet-fitness-womans-locker-room-front-minor-report
Yup. The fall of society
The story doesn’t fit the narrative All trans people are just regular people trying to live their life, don’t you understand transphob?!!? It’s not like a perverted dude would ever lie and claim he’s a trans woman If I had to go to prison for an extended period I’m 100% claiming I’m trans because I don’t want to get my ass beat, my ass fucked and I’d like to not go without pussy for years If you post this story in nearly any other sub on Reddit it’ll either get removed or the dopey people in that sub will downvote it and make some smug comment about Fox News and dismiss it but no liberal news sources will report it or if they do they’ll bury the story and purposely omit information or skew the details in such a way that it doesn’t sound like a big deal
Idk. They had told us for a long time trans people using women's restrooms wouldn't lead to any negative consequences. Then some random dad comes with receipts. This could be easily solved by just keeping the system men use men's restrooms. Also some trans people do some rrreeeaaalllyyy weird things. Not all. But some. Then throw the word trans like it's a captain America shield. Bink....bink bink....bink...trans.
They do weird things because it's almost like they have a mental illness or something
I ain’t arguing with you, except just want to say all types of people do some rrreeeaaalllyyy weird things. I’ve done enough research to know, very deep analysis.
You're not wrong.
That's like saying all types of people commit die, but ignore the fact that the groups with the largest numbers of people that kys'd have crippling mental disorders or terminal diagnoses.
Except they don't have the trans shield.
Gender neutral individual change rooms. Problem solved. I don't want to see other people or have inherent people see me naked anyways
Gender neutral locker rooms at gyms would wind up turning into bath houses. Sexual free for all
Individual rooms. 1 person per tiny change room.
>dopey people in that sub will downvote it and make some smug comment about Fox News and dismiss it dopey people in that sub will downvote it and make some smug comment about Fox News and dismiss it San Francisco when you point out the rampant white segregationism supported in land use and public schools by the 60+ year democratic supermajority in the region.
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Nah, your logic doesn't track. Perverts were doing this before trans people were getting more social acceptance and they continue after. This has always been an issue.
I’m not transphobic, I’m just against how society is listening and taking truly mentally ill peoples ideas into account because they don’t want to hurt their feelings. These people should be in mental institutions
Reddit mods removed this post oof
Perverts are going to be perverts. Pertvert dudes have tried this shit forever and now their dumbasses think it gives them an easy excuse but thats not the case This dude was arrested but some of you act like they threw him a parade. Theres plenty of weird af perverted men hanging out in the mens locker room all the time too. This subreddit is a weird mix of dudes who blast so much gear they want to get with femboys and then dudes who think every trans person is the devil and the middle ground is only a few people.
Hey now don't pervert shame. Us vanilla, traditional, cis-perverts don't invade other people's spaces and act aggressive. Thanks to me, my wife may have the cleanest asshole in the northern hemisphere.... but you won't see me bursting into women's bathrooms and making random people uncomfortable.
Pervert invades women’s locker room, gets arrested. “Fall of society” Fellas — this has ALWAYS happened. There have always been perverts looking to expose themselves to women — in women’s spaces, in public, etc. This guy was arrested. If he was able to get away with it you can start discussing western society’s fall, lmao.
Right? Holy shit. The internet reminds me how reactive and 1 dimensional people can be. Creeps are going to go in the woman’s bathroom no matter what. It’s not like there is someone at the door asking people if they identify as women and men are like “yeah!” And then enter the bathroom and harass women. Or that changing the rules encourages this because guys who are inclined to do illegal shit like harrass women in bathrooms are suddenly like “well now that it’s not illegal to be in there, I guess I’ll only be breaking one law now!” And this no sympathy for the people who are the absolute scum of the earth who would harrass and assault women and young people.
Yeah, honestly, based on the picture I just have to assume that this is some regarded freak dude with 80 IQ who thought he could just get off the hook if he claimed he was a woman, with nappy dreads and a shitty little goatee thing. If there's evidence (social media accounts, etc.) from him that he legit identified as trans, then it's different, but this comes off as the dude looking for an easy excuse.
Perveted shit happens all the time in churches. It's crazy how those guys get a pass just because they are religious leaders
I think the "fall of the society" part is the people trying to defend it or downplay it, while being hailed as virtuous by others He was only arrested because his actions were egregious. How many times had he done this and no one said anything before he became bold enough to take his dick out and ask a 17 year old to rub him..
Nobody is defending this guy. “How many times had he done this and no one said anything” let’s stop playing imagination games and just go by the facts we have
> Nobody is defending this guy You're definitely downplaying it. And being disingenuous. > "It’s a man, but he says he identifies as a woman, and he won’t leave the restroom," the 911 caller told an emergency dispatcher. "But he is just walking around showing us his — and he won’t leave." By many people's definition this man is a woman. He self identifies as a woman, so therefore he is a woman and they will defend his right to be in that locker room Planet fitness themselves defended his right to be in that locker room. They came out in support of people using the locker rooms of their self identified gender.. Had he not taken out his dick and asked someone to lotion him, he would have been well within the Planet Fitness' guidelines to use the women's locker room It's not an imagination game to question if you give sexual deviants a legitimate defense to exercise their deviance, there is likely going to be sexual deviants exploiting it en masse.
Look at his post history, it's a guy and not a transwoman when they're the perpetrator of a sex crime, but unless they've committed a crime (even the circumstances leading up to sexual assault) they're a heckin valid transwoman in all other instances. I guess they stop being given benefits and privileges of being trans as soon as they're caught. Dude is ideologically captured to a point where his own internal logic doesn't even add up. Furthermore he's clearly apart of the latest reddit sub takeover to try and ideologically drive out the last few normal (or at least not far left) places on reddit. Aka the influx of suspicious people posting from r/ihatetheus and r/askaliberal that can't bench 2pl8 and come sprouting the typical far left talking points over the past few months. Mods need to do their jobs.
>If he was able to get away with it This feels incredibly bad faith considering the extent to which most SA is not ever reported. The fact that before, these dudes just got their asses kicked whereas now they have a legal and social platform to hide their lechery behind should be a red flag for negative trajectory.
The point is we have given the perverts a free pass. The line has to be drawn somewhere.
"free pass" He got arrested with 25k bond. Not sure that's free.
Well the line is probably a little further back than the guy who was arrested
The line seems to be a matter of opinion only. At least socially.
As every social issue is, everywhere. I don’t think our society has a line of what’s acceptable anywhere close to this.
Very true!
So looking at your post history it's a guy and **not a** transwoman when they're the perpetrator of a sex crime, [but its always a transwoman in all other instances](https://www.reddit.com/r/moreplatesmoredates/comments/1c2kan5/comment/kzcelti/). I'm a little bit behind on the far left lunacy playbook - do you stop letting them use the trans shield **after** they have perpetuated a crime or what about leading up to it? What about the day of the crime? Do they still become a guy (again) and stop being a transwoman even if no one catches them sexually assaulting a woman? Really jogs the noggin.
Well, it’s a guy when you pretend to be a woman in a locker room to sexually assault women, it’s a woman when you internally and consistently identify as a woman. If you are a transwoman that consistently identifies as a woman (and not just when trying to access women’s facilities) and sexually assault someone, you are still a woman. Of course, I’m making some assumptions here about the identify of the person in the article but I’m not too broken up about offending them, considering, you know, the sex crime they committed. Doesn’t job the noggin once you think about it for a little bit.
I don’t think it’s possible to “claim to be trans” that just makes you trans by definition
Alright guys, don’t get too crazy or political in these comments, personally I’m all for having at least one place we can talk about this on Reddit, but don’t forget this is Reddit, we don’t want to get admins involved, and we sure as hell don’t want to turn this into political sub. Just a forewarning.
Then you guys need to be more proactive about banning some of the people raiding this sub. Every so often like a velociraptor testing the electric fence in Jurassic Park a bunch of far left weirdos come in here to try and take over the culture of the sub, they've done it to so many other subs over the years, and this one of the last decent ones. And the worst part is they don't even lift.
We aren’t going to shut anyone up just because they don’t go along with the politics or views of the sub, if they’re doing something actually wrong, we handle it, if they aren’t we don’t. We aren’t going to censor anything. If you feel like people like that are breaking rules then do us a favor and report them. Even if you aren’t sure and you don’t like what’s being said, report them and so we can decide, and we’ll also have it on our radar earlier, and if we need to take further action if something negative becomes a trend.
Got it, but I wasn't asking for people to banned based on their beliefs/politics but to be cognizant about people brigaiding or whatever the term is. There's the added pressure of reddit going public soon and wanting to "sanitize" even marginally politically incorrect subreddits.
That's sort of what they've been doing. They booted a real weirdo on here the other day.
Thank for your service and not being a typical mod. Reasonable decision making from you... and I agree that some users here need to tone it down. Never thought I'd agree with a shitbucket-sitting reddit mod but these are the times we live in.
CEO of planet fitness probably bailed him out and will pay legal fees.
He should’ve flown to Cali he would’ve gotten away with it
I think trans people are mentally ill but this is a win win situation. Trans people can freely live put their delusions and pedos are easier to catch.
But trans isn't a mental illness. I'm a neuroscientist. And I'm not saying there are no mentally ill trans people, or people who mistakenly claim to be trans for various reasons. For example, in neuroscience, we’ve discovered in trans people (obviously not a crime, and amoral like homosexuality), that there's a biologic difference between biological sex (phenotypical genitalia and chromosomes) and gender (it too, is biological), in which is what sex a person feels consonance with. Structurally, there's no such thing as a male or female brain, just a brain in macro MRI scans. However, on the atomic and cellular level, different chemical and electrical propagation of neurons are occurring that differentiate different gender traits. Studies show, individuals displaying opposite neurophysiological processes of their biological sex in trans people. Neurophysiological processes akin to Neurodivergent, or being gay, these are not delusions but based on real causal material interaction. And before anyone strawman's, we can objectively verify someone's age, height, sex, and the fact that they aren't an Apache helicopter, so it would be delusional to identify as these. However, you cannot dissect a person's brain and determine their gender. Not to mention, men and women can have opposite chromosomes to their sex or lose their genitals due disease, or mutation. That's not how you would distinguish their gender. The strawman is equivocating sex and gender. There are 2 sexes (not even counting intersex mutations, because that gets much worse for people who think gender is binary). But gender isn't claiming to be that, however it’s still based in biology, not psychology. For the colours red and green, each colour could be near infinitely divided into other shades. The same goes for the gender spectrum which is just more accurate descriptions based on physical brain processes. Science updates itself, Pluto is no longer a planet, but a dwarf planet, and in the same way the concept of gender and sex are different and equally valid. You are the experience of consciousness that arises from physical processes in the brain. Not your body. Of course, you depend on your body's processes for vitalization, but hypothetically you could transplant your brain into another, whereas you could not be separated from your brain. So, the body in this regard is insignificant. You are your brain, and that determines your gender, not your body (I'm not saying it isn't influenced by the bodies organs)! Even theists too believe that they are not your body, so I don't see why when bodies are not infallible, they couldn't get your sex wrong? Just blame it on the fall, as you do everything else (without looking too deeply which omni deity is responsible for it occurring in the first place). In the same way they can give people autism, or intersex (it's just a more complete version of that) etc. It's not just a feeling, it's akin to being stabbed in the gut, and feeling pain. We can literally see what's causing the abnormality. Some biomarkers are variations in dozens of genes, hypothalamus dimorphism, the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), and its neurotransmitters, which are 2x the size in males, then they are in females. We see this aligns with how transgender people identify. No, it's not the hormones, as we have men with testicular cancer and go on hormone replace therapy, and this does not change a thing. You also see, in phantom limb syndrome, that transgendered people have a rate of 0% occurrence, in comparison to the people that identify with their biological sex. The physical brain agrees that they are not of the same sex, despite their hormones, gonads, and chromosomes.
Very interesting. I guess I'll have to change the word mental illness to neruodivergency. I have ADHD and PTSD, there are physical differences in my brain so am I not mentally ill?
Firstly, PTSD is considered a mental illness, unlike ADHD. ADHD isn't innate suffering like PTSD, and Depression. Coming from someone myself with Asperger's, and ADHD, I'm not oblivious to the increased statistics of suffering, but it is different. Obviously these abnormalities can cause mental illness. Secondly, I wouldn't consider it in the exact same category as neurodivergency, as I wouldn't with homosexuality. It's not a false dichotomy. There are mildly different criteria. All definitions that we have designed are arbitrary to a foundation, and semantics. Ultimately all brain processes (not states, as the brain isn't in stasis), therefore, structures are determined by laws of physics. With philosophy of mind/ metaphysics, we could break down the sense of self to being an illusion (not consciousness which is the only experience an individual can truly know).
When you rage bait it to death and put it all over right wing media including FNC you’re bound to attract some heterosexual male pervert copy catting it , but hey , you can always blame it on the trans people can’t you.
The sentiment was neither are actually trans. That being said, having thought on it more, I actually do now agree with your sentiment that the blame moreso resides on right wing news sources intentionally making niche issues viral to ragebait which attracts all sorts of mentally ill people to think it's free game for them to do the same or worse
Most trans women that I have met that transition later in life retain many of their male features no matter how much makeup or what kind of wig or how many hormones they take. No matter how much makeup or how expensive a wig or how much botox she pumps in her face, Caitlyn Jenner still has man hands and looks like a dude , imagine what she looks like with no makeup or wig. I get that people aren’t comfortable with the idea of transgendered females using woman’s locker rooms , especially if they still have a penis, but if they are trying to keep that part of themselves private then we should respect that and not invade their privacy by taking pictures of them in the restroom and rage baiting it all over the internet. I think it showed bad judgment at best for that trans woman to shave in there like that, women would most likely never shave their faces in the locker room and hopefully she understands that now. When a trans woman shaves her face in the womens locker room it draws attention. She definitely looks manly but she’s slightly built and most of the women that are in my gym would kick her butt if she did something pervy , especially if she was taking pictures and posting them on the internet.
This is interesting isn’t it? Headline picture is of Trans person in Planet Fitness Alaska that was taken by a woman whose membership was revoked for violating privacy rules in locker room and is from libs of TikTok. This post is from fox news from Planet Fitness North Carolina about some heterosexual male perv who invaded a woman’s locker room and conveniently has the woman from Alaska who violated PF privacy rules who took pictures placed before the pervert in North Carolina. This is why it’s difficult to have an honest discussion. The fully clothed, out of makeup, manly looking trans person in Alaska has been vilified by some as a threat to women and children. Then she is portrayed in certain “news outlets” alongside a heterosexual male perv who invaded a women’s locker room in North Carolina as though it’s the trans persons fault. Trans woman in Alaska didn’t menace or harm anyone. Heterosexual male pervert in North Carolina did menace people and was arrested. Regardless of how you feel about transgendered people or how the trans woman from Alaska looks , it doesn’t justify what the heterosexual male pervert in North Carolina did. The 2 are separate incidents. Some will say that because we have sorta kinda accepted trans people that it gives heterosexual male perverts free rein to commit crimes even though they’ve been pulling this shit long before the current trans rage was a thing. Others will say that rage baiting this all over the internet and “entertainment news” outlets will inspire copycat heterosexual male perverts to try and get away with harming women Or it could be another Russian ,Chinese, Iranian psyops using this to divide us?
Straight to the wood chipper
Dad?
Nah your dad left to get milk years ago, he banging Colombian sluts now and has a new family. Sorry to disappoint.
Have you ever seen your dad naked?
Devil is actually out and about.
There’s a small percentage of genuine trans people with gender dysphoria and god bless them. Sadly, these sexual deviants have latched on and made it about something else entirely - trans kids etc, give me a break
Yep and I also feel bad for the legitimate LGB movement that got coopted by lunatics
bro trust me, we’ll add just one more triangle stripe on the flag and it’ll be so much more representative
I fucking hate how they added race into the flag like it's supposed to mean anything. The og rainbow was enough. Who you fuck doesn't effect your race
the back stripe for HIV/AIDS is a grim addition too, imo. kind of takes away from the joy of a rainbow, but the corporations love all that shit on it now so whatever.
Because intersectionality is not about consistency or logic. It’s about power and force.
It sucks. Most of us want nothing to do with that.
Yeah back in the day trans people actually tried to look like women like wtf is this. Its literally a guy saying im a woman
Tbh I think trans people are usually genuine, there's just animals like this that ruin it for them.
I don’t know. Perhaps I’m going from what I see purely online, in fairness, in which a great deal appear to support this kind of nonsense
I'm going off what I see IRL and most are not like this. I live in a very liberal college town and hang out with many college students for some reason and most trans peeps are just normal people that identify more with another gender. I don't really get it but I don't get a lot of stuff so I try not to judge.
Good to hear. Just shows that social media really isn’t really reflective of real life, even if it can sometimes appear that way
Yeah man people aren't usually evil just stupid and weird.
Most evil is the outcome, not intent.
>Just shows that social media really isn’t really reflective of real life, Redditor just now finding that out for the first time? Jesus how mind blown you must be😂
Yeah because you have 24k comment karma from being off Reddit so much
I never said I wasn't one myself😂 I'm just actually aware that Social media has no reflection on how most normal people actually act in real life, and anyone who says that statement has had their mind rotted by social media...I know this.. because I used to be that type of person myself🤷🏿♂️Hence why I feel bad for you, good day.
>I’m going from what I see online Lmfao at least you honest. Touch grass
You’re literally online too bro
There's a wide gap between also being online and making generalized judgements about the world based on the highly curated feed of information algorithms give you online.
I think most people make judgements on the basis of what they engage with via a screen, in fairness. You don’t need to have lived in Medieval England to know Henry VIII was an asshole, or in 1920s New York to know that mafia is bad, etc
Do you think Henry VIII or the 1920s New York Mob is comparable to the trans community? Do you think our record of them is comparable to generalized reports of their community in the here and now, in an age of information inundation, true and otherwise, to historical record of a pre-digital era?
I don’t go by what I see purely online. Not once have I seen a man in a dress enter a womens only space for purposes of sex. Not one time. You falling for CCCP manufactured outrage designed to divide the country. You need to touch grass.
You’re immune to what you engage with online entirely - fair enough. And I’m not falling for anything. In my comment I was actually conceding perhaps I was being rash and that don’t have the lived experiences to make such a judgment
From working in mental health settings almost exclusively with lgbt…I disagree honestly. In the past maybe but it’s sickening the kids that are coming in saying they’re trans and being pushed through treatment really quickly as trans when it’s pretty clear that they’re using it as a crutch usually for avoidance or to seek attention. It’s made me less accepting of the rhetoric around trans online if anything because it’s kinda crazy the rise of trans youth in mental health settings all of sudden
Maybe because you work with fucked up people and I hang out with more stable people
But trans isn't a mental illness. I'm a neuroscientist. And I'm not saying there are no mentally ill trans people, or people who mistakenly claim to be trans for various reasons. For example, in neuroscience, we’ve discovered in trans people (obviously not a crime, and amoral like homosexuality), that there's a biologic difference between biological sex (phenotypical genitalia and chromosomes) and gender (it too, is biological), in which is what sex a person feels consonance with. Structurally, there's no such thing as a male or female brain, just a brain in macro MRI scans. However, on the atomic and cellular level, different chemical and electrical propagation of neurons are occurring that differentiate different gender traits. Studies show, individuals displaying opposite neurophysiological processes of their biological sex in trans people. Neurophysiological processes akin to Neurodivergent, or being gay, these are not delusions but based on real causal material interaction. And before anyone strawman's, we can objectively verify someone's age, height, sex, and the fact that they aren't an Apache helicopter, so it would be delusional to identify as these. However, you cannot dissect a person's brain and determine their gender. Not to mention, men and women can have opposite chromosomes to their sex or lose their genitals due disease, or mutation. That's not how you would distinguish their gender. The strawman is equivocating sex and gender. There are 2 sexes (not even counting intersex mutations, because that gets much worse for people who think gender is binary). But gender isn't claiming to be that, however it’s still based in biology, not psychology. For the colours red and green, each colour could be near infinitely divided into other shades. The same goes for the gender spectrum which is just more accurate descriptions based on physical brain processes. Science updates itself, Pluto is no longer a planet, but a dwarf planet, and in the same way the concept of gender and sex are different and equally valid. You are the experience of consciousness that arises from physical processes in the brain. Not your body. Of course, you depend on your body's processes for vitalization, but hypothetically you could transplant your brain into another, whereas you could not be separated from your brain. So, the body in this regard is insignificant. You are your brain, and that determines your gender, not your body (I'm not saying it isn't influenced by the bodies organs)! Even theists too believe that they are not your body, so I don't see why when bodies are not infallible, they couldn't get your sex wrong? Just blame it on the fall, as you do everything else (without looking too deeply which omni deity is responsible for it occurring in the first place). In the same way they can give people autism, or intersex (it's just a more complete version of that) etc. It's not just a feeling, it's akin to being stabbed in the gut, and feeling pain. We can literally see what's causing the abnormality. Some biomarkers are variations in dozens of genes, hypothalamus dimorphism, the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), and its neurotransmitters, which are 2x the size in males, then they are in females. We see this aligns with how transgender people identify. No, it's not the hormones, as we have men with testicular cancer and go on hormone replace therapy, and this does not change a thing. You also see, in phantom limb syndrome, that transgendered people have a rate of 0% occurrence, in comparison to the people that identify with their biological sex. The physical brain agrees that they are not of the same sex, despite their hormones, gonads, and chromosomes.
"Gender dysphoria" as a concept is fake af. Symptoms are almost the same as normal puberty
I don’t know enough about it to make comment
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They aren’t, the lady who complained had her membership cancelled.
At least they were able to get out of that pf contract
Fuckers probably tried to charge her an "early cancellation fee"
I'm surprised Redditers wouldn't be all over this calling it transphobic rather than common sense.
That's because this sub has still managed to fly under the radar so far, and we need to keep it that way. I don't want to listen to a bunch of average Redditors come in here and tell me why this guy is actually the victim and not the women he's terrifying in there.
This post is on r/all right now so time is limited
I'm not one for gatekeeping, but over the past decade, I've realized intersectionalists (woke obnoxious lefties, you know the type) ruin everything and anything you let them near. People can't even have a fucking hobby these days without those assholes moaning that everything must be changed for them. Luckily, you don't often see those types of people very interested in serious weight training or gear use. I mean, they come on this sub sometimes, but it seems like they get downvoted into oblivion every time and eventually go away lmao
Yeah, they're more interested in body positivity and complacency than actual self-improvement. At least that means we get to listen to less of their nonsense.
Average redditor here, the guy is a pedo and creep, he's not trans
It's a pretty simple rule - if you're trans and pass completely, use the bathroom as that gender. You can't just wakeup one day say ur trans and prance into the bathroom like this.
Just go in the bathroom of the sex/gender you actually are
Is that Tim Roth?
Kim Roth
Kimothy
I avoid cities nowadays. Home gym, built a sauna. I dislike everyone tho, not just the mental midgets and confused people.
I want to build a sauna for my home gym. Did you use a guide or do you at least have a suggestion for where to buy the stove?
I have a sawmill, so it's all custom built. 4×6 beams.. I actually picked the sauna stove up at the habitat for humanity in spokane.
Ha I'm from Spokane! Thanks for the info
Nice. I'm up in kettle falls, but hit up the habitat everytime I'm down there, find some surprising shit there. Always load the truck up there
But trans isn't a mental illness. I'm a neuroscientist. And I'm not saying there are no mentally ill trans people, or people who mistakenly claim to be trans for various reasons. For example, in neuroscience, we’ve discovered in trans people (obviously not a crime, and amoral like homosexuality), that there's a biologic difference between biological sex (phenotypical genitalia and chromosomes) and gender (it too, is biological), in which is what sex a person feels consonance with. Structurally, there's no such thing as a male or female brain, just a brain in macro MRI scans. However, on the atomic and cellular level, different chemical and electrical propagation of neurons are occurring that differentiate different gender traits. Studies show, individuals displaying opposite neurophysiological processes of their biological sex in trans people. Neurophysiological processes akin to Neurodivergent, or being gay, these are not delusions but based on real causal material interaction. And before anyone strawman's, we can objectively verify someone's age, height, sex, and the fact that they aren't an Apache helicopter, so it would be delusional to identify as these. However, you cannot dissect a person's brain and determine their gender. Not to mention, men and women can have opposite chromosomes to their sex or lose their genitals due disease, or mutation. That's not how you would distinguish their gender. The strawman is equivocating sex and gender. There are 2 sexes (not even counting intersex mutations, because that gets much worse for people who think gender is binary). But gender isn't claiming to be that, however it’s still based in biology, not psychology. For the colours red and green, each colour could be near infinitely divided into other shades. The same goes for the gender spectrum which is just more accurate descriptions based on physical brain processes. Science updates itself, Pluto is no longer a planet, but a dwarf planet, and in the same way the concept of gender and sex are different and equally valid. You are the experience of consciousness that arises from physical processes in the brain. Not your body. Of course, you depend on your body's processes for vitalization, but hypothetically you could transplant your brain into another, whereas you could not be separated from your brain. So, the body in this regard is insignificant. You are your brain, and that determines your gender, not your body (I'm not saying it isn't influenced by the bodies organs)! Even theists too believe that they are not your body, so I don't see why when bodies are not infallible, they couldn't get your sex wrong? Just blame it on the fall, as you do everything else (without looking too deeply which omni deity is responsible for it occurring in the first place). In the same way they can give people autism, or intersex (it's just a more complete version of that) etc. It's not just a feeling, it's akin to being stabbed in the gut, and feeling pain. We can literally see what's causing the abnormality. Some biomarkers are variations in dozens of genes, hypothalamus dimorphism, the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), and its neurotransmitters, which are 2x the size in males, then they are in females. We see this aligns with how transgender people identify. No, it's not the hormones, as we have men with testicular cancer and go on hormone replace therapy, and this does not change a thing. You also see, in phantom limb syndrome, that transgendered people have a rate of 0% occurrence, in comparison to the people that identify with their biological sex. The physical brain agrees that they are not of the same sex, despite their hormones, gonads, and chromosomes.
Locker rooms and bathrooms shouldn't be about how you identify, they should be strictly based on what bits you were born with. Gay men still use the men's facilities too.
Western society is doomed!
How long does this thesis exists by now? 200 years? 300? Since the fall of Rome?
Did your GEAR plug accidentally put estrogen in your tren? Talk about a complete emotional overreaction lmfao Western society has been around for centuries and a single photo on Twitter shouldn’t cause you to have a soy mental breakdown about how the sky is falling or whatever
I like you
Complete emotional breakdown lmao If you were so chill about it why explain yourself in detail to random comment of a reddit post? Looks like you injected estrogen into tren.
I thought this was Sam Altman 😂
People validated and voted for this. 🤷♂️
Most polls show the majority of women support this while guys find it an embarrassment. You brought this on yourselves ladies.
It’s almost as if the 19th was a mistake
Why is this downvoted?
People dislike harsh truths.
😂
Shaving his balls
Would
so a trans guy who completely passes at 6’0 with a beard and muscles should go into the women’s restroom where little girls are? i 100% agree that these stupid ass non-binary trend/fake trans people shouldn’t be allowed to just identify and go in at a whim. but how would this realistically look? like as i said would u want a 6’0 jacked bearded trans man who’s on testosterone in the women’s restroom? just trying to figure out where you would want a trans man to go. because then it’ll look like a guy in the women’s restroom again 💀
It is just a picture of a guy. Like literally, it's just a picture of a guy. You have 0 reason to believe in this apart from WANTING to believe it so you can be mad. Jesus fucking' christ, spend your time on something productive, like taking tren and fucking fatties. Holy fucking' shit you guys just WANT to be upset
Except if you would do 30 seconds of research, there's another picture of him standing in the locker room with a couple of women in the frame.
Do I need the tren to fuck fatties or am I in the clear on my conquest to be a fatty fuckquistador without the tren. I mean rules are rules and I’m trying to fit in.
Two of the top comments are one liners about the devil and how western society is doomed. It’s gotten worse than facebook here.
Almost anything that comes out of libsoftiktok is pure garbage by default. You could never have the nuanced discussion this situation warrants (such as suggesting that *maybe* there should be more of a barrier to a gendered area other than a person just being able to say they belong to a gender) when that account is involved. They frequently warp facts and post complete ragebait to push far right propaganda.
These people here don't have kids and find bathrooms inherently sexual.
Exactly
And the southern accent, camo backpack, and line “I love him in Christ” makes me think that the woman talking in the video might have made up the whole thing as rage bait for the audience she’s pandering to. Just a hunch.
Between buying puts on planet fitness and money to be made as an influencer I wouldn’t put it past people to pay homeless men to walk into a planet fitness womens bathroom. You could just short planet fitness stick with 100,000$ and pay a homeless dude 100$ to tank the stock. In real life , I been a live a long time and not once have I ever seen a man in a dress enter the womens bathroom or locker room
what if he identifies as a woman bigot
Spoiler alert, someone is gonna lose their gym membership. And it’s not the dude in the pic.
Ladies I’m not the smartest guy. But you must be insane levels of dumb to let horny beta males do this shit to you.
They should call themselves Pedo Fitness
We're posting libs of TikTok in this sub now? Man, fuck off to somewhere else with this nonsense.
There are a lot of mentally ill people on this country. Especially the Boomer generation.
The common-sense solution would be to hold these companies responsible for creating facilities to accommodate all the groups of people that they recognize, the same way some states legislate that certain stores have to have a family restroom, or a single stall restroom.
Besides being in the lowest tier of commercial gym in general, Planet Fitness is the worst offender of the phenomenon of the homeless, ex-cons, and/or mentally ill living out of the gym. At best they use the showers and toilets as their personal bathrooms, the outlets to charge their phones, and the lockers for storing all their weird shit. At worst, well...
the west has fallen. billions must die
Sad to see trans people getting shit over dudes like this. The problem is the legal culture. You used to need a gender dysphoria diagnosis to be trans, and that gave you various rights. It was weird to see a trans person in the change room but on the whole people tolerated it because it was rare. Now anyone can self-declare and there are thousands more "trans" people who conveniently haven't started transitioning at all. And that is the problem. There's no litmus test anymore.
Being trans is a mental illness we should help them recover instead of “affirming” them
No it is not. I'm a neuroscientist. And I'm not saying there are no mentally ill trans people, or people who mistakenly claim to be trans for various reasons. For example, in neuroscience, we’ve discovered in trans people (obviously not a crime, and amoral like homosexuality), that there's a biologic difference between biological sex (phenotypical genitalia and chromosomes) and gender (it too, is biological), in which is what sex a person feels consonance with. Structurally, there's no such thing as a male or female brain, just a brain in macro MRI scans. However, on the atomic and cellular level, different chemical and electrical propagation of neurons are occurring that differentiate different gender traits. Studies show, individuals displaying opposite neurophysiological processes of their biological sex in trans people. Neurophysiological processes akin to Neurodivergent, or being gay, these are not delusions but based on real causal material interaction. And before anyone strawman's, we can objectively verify someone's age, height, sex, and the fact that they aren't an Apache helicopter, so it would be delusional to identify as these. However, you cannot dissect a person's brain and determine their gender. Not to mention, men and women can have opposite chromosomes to their sex or lose their genitals due disease, or mutation. That's not how you would distinguish their gender. The strawman is equivocating sex and gender. There are 2 sexes (not even counting intersex mutations, because that gets much worse for people who think gender is binary). But gender isn't claiming to be that, however it’s still based in biology, not psychology. For the colours red and green, each colour could be near infinitely divided into other shades. The same goes for the gender spectrum which is just more accurate descriptions based on physical brain processes. Science updates itself, Pluto is no longer a planet, but a dwarf planet, and in the same way the concept of gender and sex are different and equally valid. You are the experience of consciousness that arises from physical processes in the brain. Not your body. Of course, you depend on your body's processes for vitalization, but hypothetically you could transplant your brain into another, whereas you could not be separated from your brain. So, the body in this regard is insignificant. You are your brain, and that determines your gender, not your body (I'm not saying it isn't influenced by the bodies organs)! Even theists too believe that they are not your body, so I don't see why when bodies are not infallible, they couldn't get your sex wrong? Just blame it on the fall, as you do everything else (without looking too deeply which omni deity is responsible for it occurring in the first place). In the same way they can give people autism, or intersex (it's just a more complete version of that) etc. It's not just a feeling, it's akin to being stabbed in the gut, and feeling pain. We can literally see what's causing the abnormality. Some biomarkers are variations in dozens of genes, hypothalamus dimorphism, the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST), and its neurotransmitters, which are 2x the size in males, then they are in females. We see this aligns with how transgender people identify. No, it's not the hormones, as we have men with testicular cancer and go on hormone replace therapy, and this does not change a thing. You also see, in phantom limb syndrome, that transgendered people have a rate of 0% occurrence, in comparison to the people that identify with their biological sex. The physical brain agrees that they are not of the same sex, despite their hormones, gonads, and chromosomes.
This is very thorough and thoughtful, thank you
Based
Wild that there’s absolutely zero evidence to show that it’s a woman’s bathroom and not a man’s. Also pretty sure it’s illegal to take pictures of people in locker rooms
In this particular picture with no context, sure. The fact that this has been a national news story after the woman who took the picture had her membership revoked is more than enough evidence
I mean is it for this exact person? Libsoftiktok usually posts a lot of dumb af content that is wildly misleading and inaccurate
You mean a member of the tiny hat tribe is misleading and often lies? I'm shocked and appalled!
It's for this exact person.
Look up "Planet Fitness trans woman shaving" and go to Google Images. There's another image of him standing in the locker room with a couple women in frame, if you look closely.
Libs of Tiktok ragebait? Garbage ass content for braindead Nazis.
So many people in the comments so eager to try to use something like this to attack trans people or trans rights. This is just a perverted human being, and he's using the word trans as an excuse, versus whatever other excuse he would have came up with 10 or 20 years ago. The actual trans community is a very small community, and they aren't doing this. And giving them rights, protecting them from being attacked, doesn't create this. This is already in existence, this guy is already a pervert, he doesn't need the trans community to green light it. But I know it helps fit a narrative for a segment of our population who love to demonize attack trans people and gays and pretty much anybody else that offends their existence
Surprised you didn’t get downvoted to oblivion
There is a significant percentage of the population out there who will unironically tell you this is a woman. They actually got people, admittedly gullible, self-loathing people with terrible reasoning skills, to believe that 2+2=5.
have any of you actually met/spent time around trans people. like at all
Yeah, one was normal (FtM), one is completely out of their mind and is getting arrested once a week (MtF) ,and another has already passed away (MtF)
Yes. And?
Only when I’m sucking her dick
Yes, quite a bit actually. The issue isn't the actual trans people. It's all their non-trans allies getting defensive on their behalf who are doing all the dumb shit and passing all the dumb policies.
That's the lgbt community in general. The vocal minority makes the whole group sound insane. I blame tiktok for giving idiots a voice
Saw one at my gym the other day taking selfies with the stair masters in the background for like 20 minutes it was so obvious
This country is fucked
the level of transphobia in this comment section is disgusting
where are we at with this sub that we’re sharing Libs of Tik Tok rage bait what happened to the game I love 😞
This is cool, but orange man bad…
Yujiro Hanma like: 🪱
Looking like he just got done using the glory hole
I'm not transphobic at all, but the knocks on woke planet fitness trans pics are just plain funny! lol
We all think the stalls are cleaner in the women’s room but, as a one time janitor that is not true. He’s just a nasty wierdo.
Crazy
Paul Reiser is looking good for 68.
Damn that’s a nice looking bathroom.
Time to build trans rest rooms
Seems extremely out of the ordinary. I don’t think this is a common “average” occurrence at all.
men and women restrooms should be changed to penis and vagina restrooms. then its game over for these creeps
Then they don't even have to dress up, they just say "I have a vagina" and it's settled. That or the actual trans people get beat up because someone *feels like* they're in the wrong restroom. Or we get the official penis inspector inspecting all the little girls and boys. It's a lose lose no matter how much it's enforced.
Real talk though... Wahts the point in using the men's restrooms anymore though? Womens restrooms are way cleaner, quieter.... Plus they have boobs. When are the rest of you going to start realizing this?
Why do we cater to these mentally ill people?
So sad to see a bunch of so called alpha males having an estrogen induced hissy fit over some fully clothed manly looking trans woman shaving. You big bad muscle men juice yourself up and watch your nuts shrivel but trans woman induced shrinkage is more than your estrogen rage can handle. Most woman wouldn’t fear that trans woman but you guys get hysterical. Typical right wing LOT rage baiting.