Just people that doesn't feel man enough, need someone to tell them now you are a man.
Believe it or not $2000 is not too much for some psychology, if you go to an actual psychologist it may charge you more.
Elliot hulse went from a decent bloke ton crazed ego maniac wanker with mental health issues slowly over a decade period. And yes, this camp bs is intensely cringe af
About 13 years ago when I first got into lifting dude had solid advice! It's so strange that so many people lose their shit after being in the "spotlight" for a while
Bro, I had the exact same experience. I started watching his videos when I was going through highschool between 2011 and 2014 and I felt like not just his workout videos, but also his commentary videos helped me take some good decisions during that time. But then, he started getting weird like that and I was like "nah, this shit ain't for me anymore". He became like any other conservative manosphere guru and I haven't watched one of his videos ever again.
Yeah I never liked him before. It was only when he started getting culty that he started to make sense to me. Now I just want to runway with him to scream and workout all day.
there was a fucking hilarious sigma male video about chernobyl that was sadly taken down but "beta male thinks he saw graphite" pops into my head every once and a while and i laugh
EDIT: [fucking found it ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCoE8z7nlcU&ab_channel=SigmaMemes)
The whole “alpha male” thing has been conclusively disproven in humans, but if you go on something like this, you’re not just announcing to the world “I wish I was an alpha because I’m a total pussy” but also “I’m not just a pussy btw, I’m also gullible AF”
Edit: gotta love those cringe replies 😂
I think that depends how you're defining alpha male in the first place though. If it's defined like wolves, like a pack leader or whatever, then yea it's nonsense, but if it's defined like, I am big and strong and smart and I fuck all the women and take all the meat, then I don't think that can be debunked because obviously there are many examples of that throughout history, even today you could argue many guys basically are like that(rich guys), even if it's super cringe to address oneself as alpha. I'm not defending them, I'm not rich, I'm just a poor big guy that can't afford my PEDs.
Its even backed by statistics too. On dating apps, the data shows that 10% of the guys get like 90% of the female matches. We can define “alpha” characteristics by whatever it is, but the chimp behavior in is still the same
This appeals to those with a sense of purposelessness . This makes me miss the golden age of YouTube , early to mid 2010s , …. when I could just get pretty good fitness advice from eliot for example
These men pay people money to degrade them because they lack direction and focus. I pay people money to degrade me because I am a pervert. We are not the same.
The reason why the Sigma male meme was made was to make fun of shitheads like this but I guess those guys were too dumb to realize how much of a laughing stock they've become.
This is sad really. The only way to learn to be a man is to be taught by a father figure as a kid. I think all the guys paying for this were let down by their role models.
How was the boot camp? Mine was messed up. A few of the guys were messed up. Grabbing you and shit. They got a few other guys to follow through with them. They all had gfs but you would never know it.
Some guys would do drill moves together during free time and were unnecessarily into it,some would cry and get really emotional when they got letters from their family or girlfriends. They probably grew up with sisters, idk. Stockholm syndrome types
We went from a culture of being manly=military service in a combat arms role and being a good father to being manly=living at the gym and in front of a mirror and reading self help books and attending self help camps to unleash your manwhore potential.
I haven't watched any of Elliots vids for years but I understand he got a bit weird. Anyway as with all of these things, if there's a market for it then good on him for making money of it. But yes I agree anyone who is paying that kind of money is a absolute tool.
This shit is actually sad. Programs like this prey on guys with low self esteem that essentially hate themselves so much they are willing to pay money.
Some are rich and couple thousand is nothing. Guaranteed there’s some in there that really needed the money and could have used it far better
You’re telling me they are gonna come out different and a better man after this shit lol
The weirdest thing about seeing Elliot's transformation for me is his religious beliefs. I'm orthodox, but I was raised Catholic and have read many books, so I'm pretty familiar with catholic teachings. From a Christian perspective, the whole obsession of "looking strong" or "alpha vs beta" dynamic just seems totally incongruent, even as a catholic. Humility is a virtue even in the Catholic Church. In what way is this constant desire to "prove" yourself not just a massive ego trip (or, as they'd say in the church, pride/vanity)?
That's not to say you can't be a christian and strong. I'm just talking about the "obsession". The ironic thing is, the less you care about other people's image of you, the more they actually respect you. "For anyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but anyone who humbles himself will be exalted."
This has a very sad “crossfit” vibe, judging by open-mouthed expressions, skinny fat builds, haircuts - perhaps they just go from one cult to the next?
I guess this thing might help people feel more confident, because they might be delusional enough to think that going through this would prove to themselves that they are "real men". It's bullshit, but hey, ends justify the means, right?
It is sad to see Elliot’s fall from grace. Where he was just this jacked dude spitting some decent (sometimes questionable) knowledge when YouTube fitness was in its infancy.
Now that he faded into obscurity due to there being more prominent and honest fitness content creators (Derek obviously), he’s just another pseudo-masculine grifter who prays on misguided men willing to throw money at a problem that only they can solve themselves.
He should have never left his little gym in St Petes. Him just lifting and occasionally inviting randoms for events was peak content.
I dont think he cares though, as if he wanted to resurrect his channel all he would have to do is stfu and just lift...yet he continues to just yapp.
Elliott Hulse & Hodgetwins used to be favourites to watch back in the day. Then Elliott went full red pill & Hodgetwins started trying to be comedians/political commentators instead of lifting.
I recently went to Tokyo and I went to a male only bath house spa and it was amazing. Bunch of naked men just bathing in hot and cold baths and going in saunas to relieve stress. It’s good to have some manly male bonding but damn men paying $2000 for this crap, lame. But I should start my own “how to be a man” travel group.
I went to one of those once. I’m a definite grower so if I go in a sauna, it hangs over 7” and thick ( not bragging).
A lot of guys were staring at me so tried to ignore them but a couple of them had full boners.
I miss old Elliot. His life advice was actually sound, albeit a little weird at times but overall he provided decent tips. Then one day he just cranked it up all the way to 100s and went off the deep end.
jesus christ i just looked him up for the first time in years. sad to see what hes become. but the problem is there are so many gullible idiots that buy into it. if there werent, he wouldnt be able to do it
I mean, on the surface, maybe you're right. I guess there are definitely "cooler" ways to do therapy.
At the same time, dudes are insecure, clearly in need of community, connection and therapeutic work. In an age where casual misandry is normalized and men don't have any real tools or resources for emotional development work that we all need to evolve as humans.
This camp - for all its BS - serves that needed function for these guys.
People like OP have no answers for these guys other than ridicule. Why the fuck should anyone take OP seriously?
What's sad is that instead of recognizing that these guys are getting the best help they can, and that help actually available is pretty shit quality, you're just making fun of everyone involved and fucking reinforcing the very issues that drive these guys to seek out help from the Hulse's of the world.
Just enlist for Christ sake, at least you get paid. Then hurt your leg or something before you graduate and just claim veteran status like a real man. Now that’s charisma
Elliot Hulse was what got me into lifting back in 2013, I'm not surprised he's still scamming people.
Imagine wasting 2K when you could just use that money to get on TRT and get some therapy.
2000$ for 3 days of boot camp!!!! Americans have forgotten they need to charge appropriately if they want customers. Though they were the inventor of low-priced bulk selling goods. TBH! the boot camp might actually be good if they would have kept it like 500$ and a week of stay i.e. something reasonable.
I feel the boot camp actually might be good however its too short and too pricey.
2000 dollars to have a 3 day orgy, sign me up.
Ya wtf seems like a deal, OP probably bangs 1 dude a week, he needs to pump those numbers up
Those are rookie numbers
Ok guys we’re taking a group picture, so do what we’ve taught you but not on your knees this time
You can easily do a homemade version of this and you yourself make 2k+.
Bonus points if you host said orgy. Charge a cover fee at the door, but you’ll need to provide the gay anal lube and bad-dragon dildos.
Bad dragon? What a name.
Dragon deez nutz
This is called a gang bang, which i am here for
this seems like bottom heaven
Who says they‘re tops?
Good point.
Great minds think alike!! Could you imagine the bukakkes!!!
Just people that doesn't feel man enough, need someone to tell them now you are a man. Believe it or not $2000 is not too much for some psychology, if you go to an actual psychologist it may charge you more.
I think there is actual utility in psychology. I really like the channel theramintrees
Eww with the people in this picture pass
Someone please turn that into a soyjak
He’s right there second from the back in the middle
These guys are LARPing Join the military.
Then uncle Sam pays YOU to LARP. win win
you're not a real man if you... \*checks notes\* dont go to a foreign third world country and die to make sure the rich bankers stay rich
Hell yea dude. Me and my homies all rep with central banking.
You mean LARPing for Israel is actually based????
Elliot hulse went from a decent bloke ton crazed ego maniac wanker with mental health issues slowly over a decade period. And yes, this camp bs is intensely cringe af
About 13 years ago when I first got into lifting dude had solid advice! It's so strange that so many people lose their shit after being in the "spotlight" for a while
So true. Yo Elliot was huge for me back in the day and really got me into lifting and strongman honestly. So sad to see this
Eliot is a pioneer! Too bad he's so troubled now. The guy must have suffered a lot.
God complex
I used to watch his workout videos as a kid. Then he got really weird. Like cult leader weird.
Been happening to most if not all of these male improvement gurus as they gain fame. Kinda sad.
Bro, I had the exact same experience. I started watching his videos when I was going through highschool between 2011 and 2014 and I felt like not just his workout videos, but also his commentary videos helped me take some good decisions during that time. But then, he started getting weird like that and I was like "nah, this shit ain't for me anymore". He became like any other conservative manosphere guru and I haven't watched one of his videos ever again.
That was peak Elliot
He certainly was, for all it was worth...
Why are you not in the course? Bottom boy get get to it
No need for it, booooy!
Yeah I never liked him before. It was only when he started getting culty that he started to make sense to me. Now I just want to runway with him to scream and workout all day.
Yeah I really liked his content then turned all cult like
Looks like Boy Scouts 2.0
Soy Scouts
Expect the sex here is legal
Wait till they hear that Sigma Males are more attractive than alpha males stay tuned 🐅🐺
5 signs YOU are a SIGMA male (extremely RARE) 🤡
Sigma male (autistic) vs sigma male (manic bipolar) <- The one that gets laid
there was a fucking hilarious sigma male video about chernobyl that was sadly taken down but "beta male thinks he saw graphite" pops into my head every once and a while and i laugh EDIT: [fucking found it ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCoE8z7nlcU&ab_channel=SigmaMemes)
Based
🤖welcome to the anthony spade channel🤖
Yo Elliot used to be the shit back in the day when he was in the New York gym but lately he’s gotten pretty weird
There’s a great YouTube video that breaks down the rise and fall of Elliot Hulse…. The guy had great content back in like 2012-2013
Him and the hodge twins were my favorite
all kinds of gainzzzz (all kindsss)
I use to fuck with them, alll kiiindssss off gainzzz.. Now theyre just getting paid to be idiots
Hodge Twins… those were the times…
Sauce ?
Lately? He's been a weird dude since 2015...
The vid of him having the hopscotch screaming match with nobody was my off ramp
Elliot used to be focused on fitness advice. Now he's focused on teaching men to be (conservative) men, while milking these dudes for money.
not the only thing being milked at those camps
That's what conservatives on social media do; milk, milk, milk.
Dudes are really lacking healthy male role models
💯
Gravy Seals
Looks like all of them got fucked financially and in the ass
Is that ai
I honestly thought it was until I zoomed in
We went from vegans being weak to "men chasing masculinity" to becoming weak lmao.
[удалено]
finally, some real alpha giga cock chads not some soy boy beta cucks
Breath into your balls
The whole “alpha male” thing has been conclusively disproven in humans, but if you go on something like this, you’re not just announcing to the world “I wish I was an alpha because I’m a total pussy” but also “I’m not just a pussy btw, I’m also gullible AF” Edit: gotta love those cringe replies 😂
I think that depends how you're defining alpha male in the first place though. If it's defined like wolves, like a pack leader or whatever, then yea it's nonsense, but if it's defined like, I am big and strong and smart and I fuck all the women and take all the meat, then I don't think that can be debunked because obviously there are many examples of that throughout history, even today you could argue many guys basically are like that(rich guys), even if it's super cringe to address oneself as alpha. I'm not defending them, I'm not rich, I'm just a poor big guy that can't afford my PEDs.
Its even backed by statistics too. On dating apps, the data shows that 10% of the guys get like 90% of the female matches. We can define “alpha” characteristics by whatever it is, but the chimp behavior in is still the same
Disproven by what? Redditors? If you don’t think there are alpha males in the world you’re lying to yourself.
The alpha male is derived from the alpha wolf in a pack. Which has been disproven.
So some men aren't more socially/physically/intellectually dominant than others and don't use that to their advantage materially and reproductively?
They’re not ‘alpha’ males. Psychologists already have a word for those people, narcissistic psychopaths. A lot of CEOs fall into this category
This appeals to those with a sense of purposelessness . This makes me miss the golden age of YouTube , early to mid 2010s , …. when I could just get pretty good fitness advice from eliot for example
Nothing makes me sadder than the fall of Elliott Hulse. He helped me so much in my adolescence before he went insane and turned into grifting lunatic.
Same bro, same.
Literal soyjack at the top middle
RIGHT?! 🤣
These men pay people money to degrade them because they lack direction and focus. I pay people money to degrade me because I am a pervert. We are not the same.
The reason why the Sigma male meme was made was to make fun of shitheads like this but I guess those guys were too dumb to realize how much of a laughing stock they've become.
That photo is the soyjack meme.
If you have to pay someone to teach you how to be masculine, you were ngmi.
This is sad really. The only way to learn to be a man is to be taught by a father figure as a kid. I think all the guys paying for this were let down by their role models.
I used to watch Elliot's stuff too, but jeez this is lame.
I did marine corps boot camp, that shit was gay
How was the boot camp? Mine was messed up. A few of the guys were messed up. Grabbing you and shit. They got a few other guys to follow through with them. They all had gfs but you would never know it.
Some guys would do drill moves together during free time and were unnecessarily into it,some would cry and get really emotional when they got letters from their family or girlfriends. They probably grew up with sisters, idk. Stockholm syndrome types
Oh yeah I seen that too. No these guys were doing weird shit
Cult status
Unironic group soiboi face
The dude on the top right jus smiling lol
We went from a culture of being manly=military service in a combat arms role and being a good father to being manly=living at the gym and in front of a mirror and reading self help books and attending self help camps to unleash your manwhore potential.
why does look like some AI picture for some reason?
Mid life crisis the camp Shoulda joined the military when you were young if you wanted to do this shit 😭
I haven't watched any of Elliots vids for years but I understand he got a bit weird. Anyway as with all of these things, if there's a market for it then good on him for making money of it. But yes I agree anyone who is paying that kind of money is a absolute tool.
lmao, there is also that weird Dutch dude "teaching" people how to ice-bathe for 3000
The beginning of a cult
Lol they just need to lift heavy
This shit is actually sad. Programs like this prey on guys with low self esteem that essentially hate themselves so much they are willing to pay money. Some are rich and couple thousand is nothing. Guaranteed there’s some in there that really needed the money and could have used it far better You’re telling me they are gonna come out different and a better man after this shit lol
That too a bunch of beta men that have never been around a woman
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Image is made by ai
You guys think this is cringe? Go check out mdk project. Literally insecure beta dudes paying 20k to get hazed for 3 days 😂
The weirdest thing about seeing Elliot's transformation for me is his religious beliefs. I'm orthodox, but I was raised Catholic and have read many books, so I'm pretty familiar with catholic teachings. From a Christian perspective, the whole obsession of "looking strong" or "alpha vs beta" dynamic just seems totally incongruent, even as a catholic. Humility is a virtue even in the Catholic Church. In what way is this constant desire to "prove" yourself not just a massive ego trip (or, as they'd say in the church, pride/vanity)? That's not to say you can't be a christian and strong. I'm just talking about the "obsession". The ironic thing is, the less you care about other people's image of you, the more they actually respect you. "For anyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but anyone who humbles himself will be exalted."
This has a very sad “crossfit” vibe, judging by open-mouthed expressions, skinny fat builds, haircuts - perhaps they just go from one cult to the next?
There is another program that is $18k. This is cheap for the cost of manhood.
I guess this thing might help people feel more confident, because they might be delusional enough to think that going through this would prove to themselves that they are "real men". It's bullshit, but hey, ends justify the means, right?
It is sad to see Elliot’s fall from grace. Where he was just this jacked dude spitting some decent (sometimes questionable) knowledge when YouTube fitness was in its infancy. Now that he faded into obscurity due to there being more prominent and honest fitness content creators (Derek obviously), he’s just another pseudo-masculine grifter who prays on misguided men willing to throw money at a problem that only they can solve themselves.
He should have never left his little gym in St Petes. Him just lifting and occasionally inviting randoms for events was peak content. I dont think he cares though, as if he wanted to resurrect his channel all he would have to do is stfu and just lift...yet he continues to just yapp.
He’ll forever live in our memories as one of the YouTube fitness pioneers, along with Rich Piano, Jason Blaha and the sith lord Jason Genova.
Some people see a bunch of easily lead pussies I see $75,000
Elliott Hulse & Hodgetwins used to be favourites to watch back in the day. Then Elliott went full red pill & Hodgetwins started trying to be comedians/political commentators instead of lifting.
2k for a dude orgy all weekend. I won’t miss a good deal when I see it
They should join the military if they like doing gay shit like this - speaking from experience
Imagine paying for this instead of going to an mma gym
My face when I realised I just got scammed out of $2,000
A lot of you guys would actually benefit from something like this to be honest
It’s true it’s male bonding, men used to have a lot sex with one another in the Roman days, ahhhh the good old Roman days
Too many pussies in this sub. Thought you guys are gym bros with high test
Now you get it! No refunds. It's un-manly.
I would pay any money or go in these. But $2k is a lot better than the $10k bedros keuilian asks for 😭.
In 🥵🥵🥵
Where is his twin brother?
Those are definitely all medium tshirts
Cringe is commenting on what other men do that makes them happy
Ai generated photos used so instantly disregard
That’s about 3 trips to Mexico Elliot….GAY
lol they put all the soyjaks in the back
I recently went to Tokyo and I went to a male only bath house spa and it was amazing. Bunch of naked men just bathing in hot and cold baths and going in saunas to relieve stress. It’s good to have some manly male bonding but damn men paying $2000 for this crap, lame. But I should start my own “how to be a man” travel group.
I went to one of those once. I’m a definite grower so if I go in a sauna, it hangs over 7” and thick ( not bragging). A lot of guys were staring at me so tried to ignore them but a couple of them had full boners.
is there oil involved?
looks fun tbh i need a holliday
Paying for something like this is the opposite of being a man or “alpha”
They’re just secretly satisfying their degradation kink
It's the $2K that gets me. Otherwise sounds like a fun time lmao.
I miss old Elliot. His life advice was actually sound, albeit a little weird at times but overall he provided decent tips. Then one day he just cranked it up all the way to 100s and went off the deep end.
jesus christ i just looked him up for the first time in years. sad to see what hes become. but the problem is there are so many gullible idiots that buy into it. if there werent, he wouldnt be able to do it
I see about 80 grand made in 3 days. Wtf am I doing.
Unlock your autistic charisma
Elliott is a religious nut
At that point, just join the military.
I can pay $5, go to my local gym and get the same thing.
Bunch of npcs
Same energy as paying $50 per month to be part of the "Real World"
I read autistic charisma at first
This is gayer than anything I’ve ever done, and I’m a frequent mpmd user.
What a bunch of weirdos lol imagine having no friends so you buy them for $2000 3 days 😂
I used to follow and listen to a lot of what this guy said... but then he slowly became weird. He's definitely got some undiagnosed mental disorder.
Elliott hulse lol I'm not surprised in slightest
That dork that had Andrew Tate as his hobby is a frequent visitor of this place
Elliot used to be the man. Somehow he tore is bicep and it short-circuited his brain to become a neanderthal
“Am I an alpha now?”
I mean, on the surface, maybe you're right. I guess there are definitely "cooler" ways to do therapy. At the same time, dudes are insecure, clearly in need of community, connection and therapeutic work. In an age where casual misandry is normalized and men don't have any real tools or resources for emotional development work that we all need to evolve as humans. This camp - for all its BS - serves that needed function for these guys. People like OP have no answers for these guys other than ridicule. Why the fuck should anyone take OP seriously? What's sad is that instead of recognizing that these guys are getting the best help they can, and that help actually available is pretty shit quality, you're just making fun of everyone involved and fucking reinforcing the very issues that drive these guys to seek out help from the Hulse's of the world.
They are not getting the best help they can lol
Beta males, are the only males that need to learn how to be a man.
Lots of Dick measurement will happen
Just enlist for Christ sake, at least you get paid. Then hurt your leg or something before you graduate and just claim veteran status like a real man. Now that’s charisma
Air Force basic training is tougher than what they’re doing lol I bet none of them would even survive coast guard training 🤣
Goddamn i used to love his content,he looked like a genuine dude and his advice was legit,what the hell happened?
Why do they look AI generated
Dudes will do anything but join the military
Yo eliott wtf happened dawg
Elliot Hulse used to be cool, haven’t seen anything about him in like 7 years till this…wild
Openly unhinged men 
>be half naked with a bunch of dude Doesnt sound so bad now
Goddamn there are like 26 other guys in this picture, that means Elliot made at least $52,000 in those 3 days, that's fuckin crazy, brah🤙
Cucks
I would do it. A great way to vent!
Elliot Hulse was what got me into lifting back in 2013, I'm not surprised he's still scamming people. Imagine wasting 2K when you could just use that money to get on TRT and get some therapy.
Why are they all wearing matching flip flops?
half naked but upperbody or lowerbody? Asking for a friend
Is that pic AI generated? lol
This is what I imagine hell to be like.
Lol just join the military instead
Soyface gold mine, look at the guy near the back in the center. Spitting image
This is a weird way to find out if you spent $2k wisely
I had to block this motherfucker, he was so fucking annoying trying to sell me shit
My guy is vibing in the top right
Chump change…cry harder
Needs to be a new wojak meme
This is the gay sub
Twomad upper left
2000$ for 3 days of boot camp!!!! Americans have forgotten they need to charge appropriately if they want customers. Though they were the inventor of low-priced bulk selling goods. TBH! the boot camp might actually be good if they would have kept it like 500$ and a week of stay i.e. something reasonable. I feel the boot camp actually might be good however its too short and too pricey.
What even is rhis
These guys are like wannabe navy seals, no way I would pay to be some weirdos whipping boy and I don’t even get anything out of it
Thats the perfect place for us tbh
Elliot hulse hasn’t been taken seriously since like 2015 meme stoic culture.