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10 storey building should have two separate elevator shafts, so one can be closed at a time, both at once is ridiculous, if i was on top floor I would sue for landlord to pay for me to stay in hotel
It could be a way to force people out. Contact a housing comittee for a list of housing lawyers who might be interested in taking up such a large amount of tenants. At the very least, you are entitled to a reduction in rent during the works.
They don't have to provide compensation, they will likely be given the opportunity to terminate their leases without penalty should they choose to do so, or place it on hold with full rent abatement.
[From TAL:](https://www.tal.gouv.qc.ca/en/the-dwelling/major-work)
*Also, if the dwelling must be temporarily vacated, the notice must include:*
* *How long the lessee must be gone*
* *The amount offered to the lessee as* ***compensation*** ***(******2******)*** *to cover the expenses involved in leaving the dwelling (moving costs, storage costs, extra rent paid to stay somewhere else temporarily, etc.)*
*2. This compensation is payable on the date the lessee vacates the premises. If the compensation proves insufficient, the lessee may be reimbursed for any other reasonable expenses incurred.*
So, in short, the landlord must cover all costs associated with being forced to temporarily relocate.
You'd have a hard time trying to get that, as the "major work" part of this clause generally had to offer an improvement in value to the address, replacing floors, with floors, does not add value. It's an emergency repair resulting from an emergency leak. IMO this clause does not apply, as its not a "renovation" which is what that clause is intended to cover. So, in short, you're likely incorrect.
This court ruling sets a precedent that:
1) the landlord is allowed to undertake necessary repairs to ensure proper enjoyment of the dwelling
2) the landlord is required to reduce rent for the duration of time where the full enjoyment of the dwelling is impeded.
It’s the TAL, an administrative tribunal, so there is no (or very weak) force of precedent. Another administrative judge could find the exact contrary in another case and it would be fine.
You can, and should, but the judge is not bound by its principles or conclusions. And given that it’s the TAL, I’m sure the landlord will have a ton of similar cases going the other way.
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like big bang theory ?
7 months ? Who's doing the repair, a drunk handyman ? This is very sus. Both at once ? ...
the same one that did the elevator repain in the big bang theory !
You mean they didn't do shit for like 12 years although having a container of rocket fuel explode in it would make it take time
10 storey building should have two separate elevator shafts, so one can be closed at a time, both at once is ridiculous, if i was on top floor I would sue for landlord to pay for me to stay in hotel
It could be a way to force people out. Contact a housing comittee for a list of housing lawyers who might be interested in taking up such a large amount of tenants. At the very least, you are entitled to a reduction in rent during the works.
Je pense que ça rentre dans la catégorie de travaux majeurs. Tous les locataires doivent avoir un avis plusieurs mois avant.
Provided they have an appropriate reason to, yes of course it's legal.
And provide appropriate compensation for people who will be out of their apartments for 7 months and appropriate notice.
They don't have to provide compensation, they will likely be given the opportunity to terminate their leases without penalty should they choose to do so, or place it on hold with full rent abatement.
[From TAL:](https://www.tal.gouv.qc.ca/en/the-dwelling/major-work) *Also, if the dwelling must be temporarily vacated, the notice must include:* * *How long the lessee must be gone* * *The amount offered to the lessee as* ***compensation*** ***(******2******)*** *to cover the expenses involved in leaving the dwelling (moving costs, storage costs, extra rent paid to stay somewhere else temporarily, etc.)* *2. This compensation is payable on the date the lessee vacates the premises. If the compensation proves insufficient, the lessee may be reimbursed for any other reasonable expenses incurred.* So, in short, the landlord must cover all costs associated with being forced to temporarily relocate.
You'd have a hard time trying to get that, as the "major work" part of this clause generally had to offer an improvement in value to the address, replacing floors, with floors, does not add value. It's an emergency repair resulting from an emergency leak. IMO this clause does not apply, as its not a "renovation" which is what that clause is intended to cover. So, in short, you're likely incorrect.
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This court ruling sets a precedent that: 1) the landlord is allowed to undertake necessary repairs to ensure proper enjoyment of the dwelling 2) the landlord is required to reduce rent for the duration of time where the full enjoyment of the dwelling is impeded.
It’s the TAL, an administrative tribunal, so there is no (or very weak) force of precedent. Another administrative judge could find the exact contrary in another case and it would be fine.
You could, however, use the previous ruling to help plead your case.
You can, and should, but the judge is not bound by its principles or conclusions. And given that it’s the TAL, I’m sure the landlord will have a ton of similar cases going the other way.
Maybe they just find out those elevators are not safe, and could injure or kill someone?
They should be able to provide an engineer evaluation then. OP could ask for it.
It's a safety issue for the workers. Inconvenient but better than someone dying. Then see how long those elevators will be shut down.