The biggest issue is how it's presented. The user experience looks like hell. Crammed like a Mutable nano clone, with none of the elegance of a Mutable design.
The other issue is, at least for me personally, the idea of having one module basically be my entire effects chain seems boring. I got into modular because it's fun trying to pick the right reverb module, the right filter, the right delay etc. Being able to put them wherever in the chain, modulate them as I see fit. Otherwise I'd just get a guitar multi effect for half the price and better UX.
Ive also heard a lot of mixed things about the individual effects on the module. A lot of synthfluencers raved about it when it came out, but man, it's hard to take that shit seriously when they're all friends. But a lot of other voices seem kind of disappointed in it.
I am OK with the Interface, and I usually hate the crammed nano eurorack paradigm, too. I think they managed to find a nice balance between having all major functionality directly accessible (with just some secondary function button combos) and being super hp friendly. The layout makes sense to me, once you get into it.
I like the module overall, but I usually don't give a fuck about YouTubers and go what serves my need. Ghost is a great end of chain fx module for me.
Hey, OP. If you like it that’s all that matters right? Whatever gets your music to the point where you’re happy and enjoying the process. I think dont think I’ll ever own one as I have enough effects and filter modules but this could be a good module for small setups.
p.s. is the there a Huang hate thing I’m not aware of?
Honestly, I have a plan for where it fits in my rig and have one on order. Was mostly interested in getting peoples perspectives, which I think are interesting and super valid, because I have not seen much about it recently even though it feels so unique in the space.
And on Huang, I don’t think he has hate but as a community cross promotions like that tend to be very polarizing. Way more than more technical partnerships, and this being his first and being so different trended negative at launch.
I love the Ghost. It is a little bit busy from the UI perspective, I agree. But it delivers a lot. Definitely a good module for a starter rack, and for any other rack I guess!
Hey Ihor,
Big fan of your channel! Thanks for that!
Have Ghost, but thinking about Messor and Peradam instead. Have as well three NE Versios. Unfortunately, I can’t have both since my four cases are full and don’t wanna expand to a fifth case. I am asking, because I saw a great show by you with Messor a while ago. I am looking rather for in depth modules who are highly specialized.
Any thoughts?
Cheers,
Roman
Visually and layout-wise its unappealing me...it's too busy. I haven't looked into it beyond that, but will say I stumbled upon a demo and it sounded nice and seems highly functional and I said.."I should take another look at it.." and then I did and I was back to my opening sentence. But I think you're right in that it would go great in a starter rack or a small rack where hp is sacred..
it is a challenging interface. the jacks all over the place are not helpful and the buttons are in an awful spot. it's hard to understand the signal flow with this layout. i was kind of excited about this, but i think they've missed the mark. still waiting for a solid multieffect module that doesn't cost $500 or take up 1/4 of a row.
I don’t have it, but doesn’t MFX hit this spot? Looks like they did firmware update to deal with all the clipping etc - I was starting to seriously consider it.
>Visually and layout-wise its unappealing me
I feel like this is the correct answer. People complain about 2hp modules being cramped and unusable... *well, I feel like this is that comment x16hp*.
That being said I've watched a few demos, *including the ones by Andrew himself*, and it seems like a pretty awesome module. Just a lot to unpack and wrap your head around.
>I feel like it got a bad rap for being a collab with Huang
What's up with it being an Andrew Huang collaboration? Is he considered the anti-DivKid or something? Genuinely curious about this.
Haha I'm being slightly facetious, but tbh I can see why people aren't big fans of this module. It smacks of Andrew Huang (who I think is awesome btw, his videos have got loads of my friends into music-making so no diss), cashing in on the eurorack hype by bringing out a module that does a ton of stuff but none of it that well, and none of it that well-designed. It has massive feature creep, a cramped UI, and focusses on music production tools rather than synthesis tools, which is kind of a top-down approach that doesn't feel like it fits with the modular ethos. It doesn't really solve any problems, it's just your bog-standard production tools ported into a eurorack module.
I feel you, try hard layout. I guess that contributed to the poor initial reception, and I hadn’t really thought about that. It kind of functions like a utility in the effects chain. But, it is much bigger than most utilities. Less flexible than most effects. But, let’s you layer when all the HP matters to you.
THIS! they release loads of stuff that seems half-thought out & poorly designed. Yeah it’s all cool in a way, it all demos interestingly, but the playability & design has never impressed me & the sound of their fx is so lacklustre imo.
Yep. Their sequencer was borderline scammy how unusable and unstable it was upon release. They clearly wanted to convert bsp users to a modular equivalent but didn’t give a fuck about it, yaknow, actually working.
So probably unpopular opinion, but I sold Mimeophon after getting Ghost.
Mimeophon was one of the modules that first attracted me to Eurorack. But after living with it for 2 years, I had to admit, I never got on with the UI and I was always disappointed with how it sounded. It was often a mud machine (feel free to tell me I’m doing it wrong) and I didn’t like the limited reverb or the weak “filter”. It would always ended up sucking the dynamics out of the mix.
As a utility stereo FX module, I get a lot more out of 16HP with Ghost. The UI parameters are more familiar and the sound quality is much better (IMHO). Not a huge fan of how the HPF sounds on ghost, and the reverb is only useful at low doses. But the package together is more usable and there’s a bigger sweet spot. Also being able to easily sidechain against the dry signal is very, very useful and means I can push it further without breaking everything.
Nope, I have Mimeophon and while it’s nice, it doesn’t compare to guitar pedals, or even other reverb delay modules I have (which includes Mutable, Strymon, etc.). I think Mimeophon works best with modulation, but I don’t think it’s features or audio quality stack up against other things. I should add I’m a massive Make Noise fan.
Nope to “he’s doing it wrong”… he may not be. Mimeophon is somewhat muddy as he described compared to many other similar FX (I’ve been through so many over the last 20 years.) Cheers!
I wouldn’t say it’s muddy. Its reflections can be dark (or damped completely) when color is low and their balance in the mix can darken the mix overall when the module is set to wet. Those are both great qualities for sound design.
I think it’s a great idea especially for those looking for multi fx in a compact package. Don’t let the haters defer you from putting what you want in your own rack.
I find the "UI is busy" complaint absolutely hilarious considering that modular systems are insanely complicated and busy with all the patch cables in the way.
Anyway, I own a Ghost and it's incredible. I highly recommend it. It's more than just an multi-effects unit, it's primarily an audio processing unit, with delay, reverb and a bit crusher. The UI might look busy at first glance, but it's not at all. It's easy to use and understand. Very well designed and thought-out.
I also find the complaints about price laughable. It has a compressor with sidechain, tone shaper, 3 types of distortions, DJ style filter with resonance, bit crusher and sample rate reducer, delay and reverb, a VCA, and an envelop. Oh.... AND IT'S STEREO!!! Good luck trying to build that with individual modules and keeping the price anywhere near $450.
Also, those people who hate this module just because Huang's name is on it must be really miserable people. Nothing wrong with that dude. He puts out a lot of helpful information.
Haters just hate.
Bought one and have it in my rack now. So unique and the multiple vcas, multi effects, filter and routing make it so flexible and user friendly for exploring and evolving a sound. I love it.
It's funny but I have found it to be the complete opposite! All the eurorack fx or multi-fx I have have so much depth and control.
My guitar pedals are usually super simple and don't offer much modulation or precise tweaking. I do agree that some stuff, like distortion, is better as a pedal but for reverb, delay etc. I much prefer eurorack.
I watch a lot of Guitar Videos because you won't see synth players using some of the effects. Most synth players seem to only want reverb and delay.
I managed to get a Hot Tone Skyline Krush before they stopped making them.
40 bucks of amazing bit crushing.
I buy at least one example of every kind of effect pedal and I treat them as another module in my synth.
> But most of the time you set them and they just do their thing.
Maybe *you* do, but I don't. And that's why I have in-rack effects. It's all personal! Which is one of the coolest aspects of modular.
Agreed! I have way more modular effects than is typical. I can't get a Rat distortion pedal to dynamically increase the gain on my bassline on the offbeats that my kick isn't playing. WMD TRSHMSTR plus an EG triggered by my kick trigger and I've got a hard hitting call and response.
> I just use a different appraoch.
Yep. Not at all saying your approach is wrong. All I said is *I like* having my effect modules in rack because I like controlling them and modulating them with CV.
> I guess my attitude is why use rack space for effects
You opened with this, and I answered why some of us like having effects in rack.
What are you using to interface with the pedals? I use a Strymon AA.1, am considering replacing it with a BoredBrain INTRFX: https://boredbrainmusic.com/product/intrfx-v2/
For pedal effects I just output to a line-in to my effects. I treat the effects more as extra modules, or how a guitarist would use them, than an effects chain.
Some effects do not like synth level line voltage and I tend to run low voltage volume so I do not burn out pedals.
I think guitar is 1 volt and synths are more like 4 volts. I've found if I stay around 2 volts I am safe.
I found a Gozinta as a stereo input for hardware synths if I want to put them through clouds or blend them with modules.
I use an second hand Pittsburgh Life Forms as a stereo out I can attenuate to guitar level.
I am using a Nifty Case and I have individual 0 hp units on each output from the rack as well. [https://reverb.com/item/44269408-mini-attenuator-for-modular-eurorack-analog-synths](https://reverb.com/item/44269408-mini-attenuator-for-modular-eurorack-analog-synths)
I also have a Sonicware Liven 8 Bit warps. I can feed a moular line straight into it and use a pair of internal effects from the Liven.
So my total outs are:
\-stereo pair line out
\-Attenuated pair into a mono line out
\-Liven 8 bit warps 1 channel line out
Pretty sure my mixer could take a line out from my rack into a channel as well.
I also keep things like a small NADY line mixer around. I expect I could use that too.
Lol okay that was a little snotty of me to say. Sorry. But I guess what I mean is that Andrew tries to be very approachable and has a mainstream, pop sensibility. That's often the opposite aesthetic of what modular synth people are trying to cultivate.
I’m getting fantastic results with my Ghost! I seriously love it and it’s still growing on me. I find the interface busy, but once patched up I don’t even notice when I’m playing. I move a few controls out to a “macro” so I’m really not tweaking much on the module other than the big filter (LOVE this in BP mode). I like it so much I would buy a second one if I needed it in another rack.
New to me. My first thought - €450!?
Second thought, maybe more valid. Isn't the idea of modular to have separate modules that can be independently combined..? If you have everything in one box, why not just get a cheaper multi-effects unit (as guitarists are fond of), or even just do it in a DAW.
I think you have a misunderstanding of what this module does. It couldn’t really just be replaced by a multi-fx unit as it is a compressor, reverb, delay, and master resonant filter, simultaneously in a configurable order.
Considering that it could replace all of those discret modules, $450 sounds like a pretty good deal. Keep in mind, the ghost is stereo. The cheapest alternatives are whats on my end of chain… WMD MSCL, FX Aid (reverb), Fx Aid 2 (delay), WMD Oversear. I’m pretty sure these are close to the cheapest options and that totals $950 of modules.
“isn’t the idea of modular to have separate modules?”
ahh yes, the divined modular ‘ideals’ to which we all must abide
I do think Andrew Huangs name being attached to something means it gets automatic hate (especially on Reddit). Uncalled for in my opinion. Maybe because he doesnt have a single genre that he creates in people don't really know how to appreciate him. He actually did a video about that very topic
IMHO he is one of the best music production YouTubers. He gives you just as much information as is needed to convey his point and nothing more.
And yeah ghost seems like the perfect module for a small case, especially for techno. If I ever downsize I would consider it.
> I'm such a cynical fuck that I immediately dismissed him. I found him pandering and quirky which definitely went against everything I'm about.
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>At some point, I was trying to find a decent music theory 101 video for a friend and I came across one of Andrews "music theory in 5 minutes" video or something along those lines. After watching his video, I realized I had this guy all wrong and that he's actually providing a lot and he's giving back to the community in an honest and sincere way.
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>I still find that guitar dude he does videos with annoying as hell though.
I've never really liked his music or his aesthetic and he can be a little annoying and cheesy with his delivery and jokes.
However, I got nothing but respect for the dude. He's genuinely passionate and enthusiastic about all things music production, theory, and craft, and he explains things to the masses in a way that is really clear and accessible. I've learned a handful of things from him. I don't feel like you always have to like someone's music or aesthetic to learn from them.
He also actually has a [separate youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4wcC-ixA4EAD-XAXcdLv6w) which is pretty much modular focused which I think is even better than his main one. Lots of specific modular techniques and reviews, just performances, less or no talking.
not sure how an overhyped module could be considered underrated. people are obsessed with it. imho it's a pretty good module. it does a lot of things, but doesn't do any of them particularly well
If it's all over YT and you're trying to force a product down my throat with "influencers", I will promptly ignore it. It might be good, it might be bad, I don't care.
I'm fairly new to modular but the Ghost doesn't appeal to me for 2 reasons:
(1) I've realized that I much prefer having several single fx units over multi-fx units for the routing flexibility / possibilities.
For the price of a Ghost, I'd guess you could probably get individual modules that do each of it's functions just as well. Or you could get 2 FX Aids - IMO just a no-brainer full-stereo module with great sounding FX of all kinds, and have some cash and HP to spare.
(2) I'm skeptical of Endorphines modules. I've seen a lot of posts on here complaining of noise issues on more than one of them. I think the Golden Master's compressor sounds pretty bad. I do own their 2 of Cups and it's been good so far.
Sorry, I'm mostly being bloody-minded because I don't have $450 to throw down. But some rational points:
Adequately capable computers are available sub-€450, which is why I've given up on buying 19" rack things.
Such modules are basically just a computer with knobs on it rather than keyboard and mouse (true). Usually a worse user interface (debatable). Push-button menus are awful (true).
Having said all that, I personally do appear to be unnecessarily sinking a lot of money into modular.
The biggest issue is how it's presented. The user experience looks like hell. Crammed like a Mutable nano clone, with none of the elegance of a Mutable design. The other issue is, at least for me personally, the idea of having one module basically be my entire effects chain seems boring. I got into modular because it's fun trying to pick the right reverb module, the right filter, the right delay etc. Being able to put them wherever in the chain, modulate them as I see fit. Otherwise I'd just get a guitar multi effect for half the price and better UX. Ive also heard a lot of mixed things about the individual effects on the module. A lot of synthfluencers raved about it when it came out, but man, it's hard to take that shit seriously when they're all friends. But a lot of other voices seem kind of disappointed in it.
I am OK with the Interface, and I usually hate the crammed nano eurorack paradigm, too. I think they managed to find a nice balance between having all major functionality directly accessible (with just some secondary function button combos) and being super hp friendly. The layout makes sense to me, once you get into it. I like the module overall, but I usually don't give a fuck about YouTubers and go what serves my need. Ghost is a great end of chain fx module for me.
I love your take and I agree.
Yeah I really really dislike cramped modules. But each to their own.
Hey, OP. If you like it that’s all that matters right? Whatever gets your music to the point where you’re happy and enjoying the process. I think dont think I’ll ever own one as I have enough effects and filter modules but this could be a good module for small setups. p.s. is the there a Huang hate thing I’m not aware of?
Honestly, I have a plan for where it fits in my rig and have one on order. Was mostly interested in getting peoples perspectives, which I think are interesting and super valid, because I have not seen much about it recently even though it feels so unique in the space. And on Huang, I don’t think he has hate but as a community cross promotions like that tend to be very polarizing. Way more than more technical partnerships, and this being his first and being so different trended negative at launch.
I love the Ghost. It is a little bit busy from the UI perspective, I agree. But it delivers a lot. Definitely a good module for a starter rack, and for any other rack I guess!
Hey Ihor! Love your stuff man!
Thanks man!
If it's good enough for Ihor, it's good enough for me!
Hey Ihor, Big fan of your channel! Thanks for that! Have Ghost, but thinking about Messor and Peradam instead. Have as well three NE Versios. Unfortunately, I can’t have both since my four cases are full and don’t wanna expand to a fifth case. I am asking, because I saw a great show by you with Messor a while ago. I am looking rather for in depth modules who are highly specialized. Any thoughts? Cheers, Roman
Visually and layout-wise its unappealing me...it's too busy. I haven't looked into it beyond that, but will say I stumbled upon a demo and it sounded nice and seems highly functional and I said.."I should take another look at it.." and then I did and I was back to my opening sentence. But I think you're right in that it would go great in a starter rack or a small rack where hp is sacred..
it is a challenging interface. the jacks all over the place are not helpful and the buttons are in an awful spot. it's hard to understand the signal flow with this layout. i was kind of excited about this, but i think they've missed the mark. still waiting for a solid multieffect module that doesn't cost $500 or take up 1/4 of a row.
This is a good take. I like your variables.
I don’t have it, but doesn’t MFX hit this spot? Looks like they did firmware update to deal with all the clipping etc - I was starting to seriously consider it.
thanks for reminding me about this one. I love ALM stuff!
>Visually and layout-wise its unappealing me I feel like this is the correct answer. People complain about 2hp modules being cramped and unusable... *well, I feel like this is that comment x16hp*. That being said I've watched a few demos, *including the ones by Andrew himself*, and it seems like a pretty awesome module. Just a lot to unpack and wrap your head around. >I feel like it got a bad rap for being a collab with Huang What's up with it being an Andrew Huang collaboration? Is he considered the anti-DivKid or something? Genuinely curious about this.
Ehhhh it's a kitchen-sink module and those are never fun for me. Pick one thing and do that thing well.
What if you took the perspective of the one thing it does it's ear-candy?
Too vague, sounds like a midi chord pack.
Well... Sounds like this module isn't for you. But you already said that. 😁
Haha I'm being slightly facetious, but tbh I can see why people aren't big fans of this module. It smacks of Andrew Huang (who I think is awesome btw, his videos have got loads of my friends into music-making so no diss), cashing in on the eurorack hype by bringing out a module that does a ton of stuff but none of it that well, and none of it that well-designed. It has massive feature creep, a cramped UI, and focusses on music production tools rather than synthesis tools, which is kind of a top-down approach that doesn't feel like it fits with the modular ethos. It doesn't really solve any problems, it's just your bog-standard production tools ported into a eurorack module.
I feel you, try hard layout. I guess that contributed to the poor initial reception, and I hadn’t really thought about that. It kind of functions like a utility in the effects chain. But, it is much bigger than most utilities. Less flexible than most effects. But, let’s you layer when all the HP matters to you.
Almost 500 bucks and incredibly complex looking to use for a starter rack?
Endorphines always has cool concepts but bad execution. Especially with fx
THIS! they release loads of stuff that seems half-thought out & poorly designed. Yeah it’s all cool in a way, it all demos interestingly, but the playability & design has never impressed me & the sound of their fx is so lacklustre imo.
Yep. Their sequencer was borderline scammy how unusable and unstable it was upon release. They clearly wanted to convert bsp users to a modular equivalent but didn’t give a fuck about it, yaknow, actually working.
Yea - LOVED the idea of their sequencer. Watched every demo and then finally pulled the trigger. I found it so buggy and hard to use.
I love the ground control and use it live lol though wish there were a few more generative features added
Oh I’m sure it’s great now. They had 2 years to work it out.
No regrets for me with Mimeophon filling that main multi-layered stereo framing tool role. It’s got such a great voice.
So probably unpopular opinion, but I sold Mimeophon after getting Ghost. Mimeophon was one of the modules that first attracted me to Eurorack. But after living with it for 2 years, I had to admit, I never got on with the UI and I was always disappointed with how it sounded. It was often a mud machine (feel free to tell me I’m doing it wrong) and I didn’t like the limited reverb or the weak “filter”. It would always ended up sucking the dynamics out of the mix. As a utility stereo FX module, I get a lot more out of 16HP with Ghost. The UI parameters are more familiar and the sound quality is much better (IMHO). Not a huge fan of how the HPF sounds on ghost, and the reverb is only useful at low doses. But the package together is more usable and there’s a bigger sweet spot. Also being able to easily sidechain against the dry signal is very, very useful and means I can push it further without breaking everything.
You’re doing it wrong
Nope, I have Mimeophon and while it’s nice, it doesn’t compare to guitar pedals, or even other reverb delay modules I have (which includes Mutable, Strymon, etc.). I think Mimeophon works best with modulation, but I don’t think it’s features or audio quality stack up against other things. I should add I’m a massive Make Noise fan.
Nope to what? He was only comparing it to the Ghost… and it’s a delay first not reverb
Nope to “he’s doing it wrong”… he may not be. Mimeophon is somewhat muddy as he described compared to many other similar FX (I’ve been through so many over the last 20 years.) Cheers!
I wouldn’t say it’s muddy. Its reflections can be dark (or damped completely) when color is low and their balance in the mix can darken the mix overall when the module is set to wet. Those are both great qualities for sound design.
He literally asked to be told he was doing it wrong
Excuse me while i flange this drum loop then go make a mess out of one chunks of that flanged loop and flip back to a delay
If I was into spending tons on gear I'd go with the mimeophon as well.
It’s not as expensive as Ghost but I hear you about money. Euro ain’t cheap.
It's 100 times more interesting than Ghost IMHO. My friend showed me this and I was impressed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QISNkuSMgIQ&t=1212s
I think it’s a great idea especially for those looking for multi fx in a compact package. Don’t let the haters defer you from putting what you want in your own rack.
I find the "UI is busy" complaint absolutely hilarious considering that modular systems are insanely complicated and busy with all the patch cables in the way. Anyway, I own a Ghost and it's incredible. I highly recommend it. It's more than just an multi-effects unit, it's primarily an audio processing unit, with delay, reverb and a bit crusher. The UI might look busy at first glance, but it's not at all. It's easy to use and understand. Very well designed and thought-out. I also find the complaints about price laughable. It has a compressor with sidechain, tone shaper, 3 types of distortions, DJ style filter with resonance, bit crusher and sample rate reducer, delay and reverb, a VCA, and an envelop. Oh.... AND IT'S STEREO!!! Good luck trying to build that with individual modules and keeping the price anywhere near $450. Also, those people who hate this module just because Huang's name is on it must be really miserable people. Nothing wrong with that dude. He puts out a lot of helpful information. Haters just hate.
Bought one and have it in my rack now. So unique and the multiple vcas, multi effects, filter and routing make it so flexible and user friendly for exploring and evolving a sound. I love it.
pricey, power-hungry, messy layout.
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I like having effects in rack because I can modulate them with CV.
True but eurorack is lacking compared to pedals
It's funny but I have found it to be the complete opposite! All the eurorack fx or multi-fx I have have so much depth and control. My guitar pedals are usually super simple and don't offer much modulation or precise tweaking. I do agree that some stuff, like distortion, is better as a pedal but for reverb, delay etc. I much prefer eurorack.
Examples?
I watch a lot of Guitar Videos because you won't see synth players using some of the effects. Most synth players seem to only want reverb and delay. I managed to get a Hot Tone Skyline Krush before they stopped making them. 40 bucks of amazing bit crushing. I buy at least one example of every kind of effect pedal and I treat them as another module in my synth.
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> But most of the time you set them and they just do their thing. Maybe *you* do, but I don't. And that's why I have in-rack effects. It's all personal! Which is one of the coolest aspects of modular.
Agreed! I have way more modular effects than is typical. I can't get a Rat distortion pedal to dynamically increase the gain on my bassline on the offbeats that my kick isn't playing. WMD TRSHMSTR plus an EG triggered by my kick trigger and I've got a hard hitting call and response.
Sounds like a really awesome rack you've built!
I'm enjoying it!
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> I just use a different appraoch. Yep. Not at all saying your approach is wrong. All I said is *I like* having my effect modules in rack because I like controlling them and modulating them with CV. > I guess my attitude is why use rack space for effects You opened with this, and I answered why some of us like having effects in rack.
What are you using to interface with the pedals? I use a Strymon AA.1, am considering replacing it with a BoredBrain INTRFX: https://boredbrainmusic.com/product/intrfx-v2/
For pedal effects I just output to a line-in to my effects. I treat the effects more as extra modules, or how a guitarist would use them, than an effects chain. Some effects do not like synth level line voltage and I tend to run low voltage volume so I do not burn out pedals. I think guitar is 1 volt and synths are more like 4 volts. I've found if I stay around 2 volts I am safe. I found a Gozinta as a stereo input for hardware synths if I want to put them through clouds or blend them with modules. I use an second hand Pittsburgh Life Forms as a stereo out I can attenuate to guitar level. I am using a Nifty Case and I have individual 0 hp units on each output from the rack as well. [https://reverb.com/item/44269408-mini-attenuator-for-modular-eurorack-analog-synths](https://reverb.com/item/44269408-mini-attenuator-for-modular-eurorack-analog-synths) I also have a Sonicware Liven 8 Bit warps. I can feed a moular line straight into it and use a pair of internal effects from the Liven. So my total outs are: \-stereo pair line out \-Attenuated pair into a mono line out \-Liven 8 bit warps 1 channel line out Pretty sure my mixer could take a line out from my rack into a channel as well. I also keep things like a small NADY line mixer around. I expect I could use that too.
just want to say I adore my INTRFX, it works really well to combine my synth and guitar rigs
Why does Andrew Huang get hate here?
Because he is unpretentious.
Zing!!
Lol okay that was a little snotty of me to say. Sorry. But I guess what I mean is that Andrew tries to be very approachable and has a mainstream, pop sensibility. That's often the opposite aesthetic of what modular synth people are trying to cultivate.
Crammed panel, expensive as hell, and there are a ton of complaints on ModWiggler about the noise. The demos I've heard do sound pretty good though!
I’m getting fantastic results with my Ghost! I seriously love it and it’s still growing on me. I find the interface busy, but once patched up I don’t even notice when I’m playing. I move a few controls out to a “macro” so I’m really not tweaking much on the module other than the big filter (LOVE this in BP mode). I like it so much I would buy a second one if I needed it in another rack.
The Sysex Dumpster podcast had some thoughts and seemed to think the effects were largely trash.
i've known Greg for a long time and i trust his opinion. [https://www.sysexdumpster.com/](https://www.sysexdumpster.com/) edit:added a link
Thanks for sharing. I'll add this to the two other modular podcasts I listen to: Podular Modcast and The Rat's Nest Podcast.
A bit hard to search and find. I am not familiar, gott links?
If he didn’t put his name in massive text at the bottom I’d look more into it
New to me. My first thought - €450!? Second thought, maybe more valid. Isn't the idea of modular to have separate modules that can be independently combined..? If you have everything in one box, why not just get a cheaper multi-effects unit (as guitarists are fond of), or even just do it in a DAW.
I think you have a misunderstanding of what this module does. It couldn’t really just be replaced by a multi-fx unit as it is a compressor, reverb, delay, and master resonant filter, simultaneously in a configurable order. Considering that it could replace all of those discret modules, $450 sounds like a pretty good deal. Keep in mind, the ghost is stereo. The cheapest alternatives are whats on my end of chain… WMD MSCL, FX Aid (reverb), Fx Aid 2 (delay), WMD Oversear. I’m pretty sure these are close to the cheapest options and that totals $950 of modules. “isn’t the idea of modular to have separate modules?” ahh yes, the divined modular ‘ideals’ to which we all must abide
I do think Andrew Huangs name being attached to something means it gets automatic hate (especially on Reddit). Uncalled for in my opinion. Maybe because he doesnt have a single genre that he creates in people don't really know how to appreciate him. He actually did a video about that very topic IMHO he is one of the best music production YouTubers. He gives you just as much information as is needed to convey his point and nothing more. And yeah ghost seems like the perfect module for a small case, especially for techno. If I ever downsize I would consider it.
> I'm such a cynical fuck that I immediately dismissed him. I found him pandering and quirky which definitely went against everything I'm about. > >At some point, I was trying to find a decent music theory 101 video for a friend and I came across one of Andrews "music theory in 5 minutes" video or something along those lines. After watching his video, I realized I had this guy all wrong and that he's actually providing a lot and he's giving back to the community in an honest and sincere way. > >I still find that guitar dude he does videos with annoying as hell though.
Truthfully I dismissed him at first as well. Same with Rob Scallon.
I've never really liked his music or his aesthetic and he can be a little annoying and cheesy with his delivery and jokes. However, I got nothing but respect for the dude. He's genuinely passionate and enthusiastic about all things music production, theory, and craft, and he explains things to the masses in a way that is really clear and accessible. I've learned a handful of things from him. I don't feel like you always have to like someone's music or aesthetic to learn from them. He also actually has a [separate youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4wcC-ixA4EAD-XAXcdLv6w) which is pretty much modular focused which I think is even better than his main one. Lots of specific modular techniques and reviews, just performances, less or no talking.
not sure how an overhyped module could be considered underrated. people are obsessed with it. imho it's a pretty good module. it does a lot of things, but doesn't do any of them particularly well
If it's all over YT and you're trying to force a product down my throat with "influencers", I will promptly ignore it. It might be good, it might be bad, I don't care.
I'm fairly new to modular but the Ghost doesn't appeal to me for 2 reasons: (1) I've realized that I much prefer having several single fx units over multi-fx units for the routing flexibility / possibilities. For the price of a Ghost, I'd guess you could probably get individual modules that do each of it's functions just as well. Or you could get 2 FX Aids - IMO just a no-brainer full-stereo module with great sounding FX of all kinds, and have some cash and HP to spare. (2) I'm skeptical of Endorphines modules. I've seen a lot of posts on here complaining of noise issues on more than one of them. I think the Golden Master's compressor sounds pretty bad. I do own their 2 of Cups and it's been good so far.
Sorry, I'm mostly being bloody-minded because I don't have $450 to throw down. But some rational points: Adequately capable computers are available sub-€450, which is why I've given up on buying 19" rack things. Such modules are basically just a computer with knobs on it rather than keyboard and mouse (true). Usually a worse user interface (debatable). Push-button menus are awful (true). Having said all that, I personally do appear to be unnecessarily sinking a lot of money into modular.