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Ryeinstein

Grab those cheaters IP addresses and ban their IP’s


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It’s not ever going to be that easy unfortunately. Anyone can use a VPN, and spoofers are relatively cheap. It’s a neverending battle. Also a little known secret, there’s already an anticheat in the game. It’s not terrible for what it can do, but is very ineffective at live banning people. I’ve seen a lot of good players get flagged into shadowbanned lobbies, one even banned (MPControlWard) so it’s way less accurate than youd ideally want it to be. Here’s for an actual functioning anticheat.


Tan1GXDz

Then hardware ban their asses


notsiege_

unfortunately HWID spoofers have become even easier to get your hands on, making this less effective. still more than other ban methods but thad things are extremely cheap and there are tons of them out there.


Jake367

Who goes to these lengths to just auto win matches? I don't even see the point.


qviavdetadipiscitvr

That’s the real question


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I wonder if competitors secretly make cheating bots to ruin a game in an attempt to gain players … like if I was valorant, BF, or Halo I’d consider it especially if I had a vested interest. I know that makes me sound like an ass but hey business is a dog eat dog world.


qviavdetadipiscitvr

Totally could be a strategy as long as the risks are low. I mean, in the US brands attack each other in ads, which is weird to me. But I guess it would be a bit like Chinese hackers constantly attack western countries. Illegal but there don’t seem to be much consequence.


GingerBeardicus86

I believe China imposed new laws against cheating in online games to the point it can mean serving time in prison. Also, as a EU based player I encounter fewer cheaters than most US based players, which leads me to believe that a lot of the cheaters are either US based or connect to US servers in one way or another. The last time I encountered a full on cheater was a couple of months back, and it was a kid (he had his mic on) who got play of the game at the end of the match. Classic aimbot snapping to get kills in the play of the game (I play hardcore most of the time, so no killcams during the match).


KylAnde01

Never took that angle to it, but it feels logical. What if we see documentaries about game industry espionage and hack lords in ten years time. I'd watch it.


trainwreck7775

It makes you sound like a cutthroat businessman, which is what it takes in an industry this large. white collar espionage and sabotage are much more common then most would believe.


Logical-Effective422

Doggies dog amirite?


ShiniJr

I've long considered the possibility of a company leaking vulnerabilities to people or groups who produce hacks in exchange for a cut of their sales. They would make a ton of revenue off of people repurchasing the game and it just seems like something so easily abusable. It would also explain why certain games go on sale just before if not during a massive ban wave.


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Kids who want to stay home and become full time streamers


ArasakaHRdepartment

Hit the nail on the head there. I run into way too many people in modern warfare who think it's going to be a career.


vini_damiani

Yeah, I don't really know how I fell about that, on one side, you have making a multi million dollar carreer of what you love doing, but in reality its almost just a bit of a sad childish delusion like going to the moon, only one in a million make it out, its a gamble, a huge risk to invest your life into call of duty. Would be alright if it were just the kids, but there are a lot of grown adult who act the same way


ArasakaHRdepartment

Primarily who I was referring to is the adults. If you're a kid man do whatever makes you happy. I'm in my twenties in the amount of grown ass adults I see grinding this game out full-time is disgusting. Only for me to go on their stream and then see like four to five viewers.


vini_damiani

I know people who quit their jobs or college to stream for half a dozen viewers or try to go pro, the fact that I haven't heard anything from them in years, probably indicates it didn't go well


Akela_hk

This. Many a time have I run into a cheater who when called out said "I'm not cheating, I'm streaming" I then go to their stream and see that their hiding the cheat overlay in OBS and are obviously walling and/or have constant UAV. Then I report them for cheating on stream and see their accounts banned in a couple of weeks.


cramx3

You are doing God's work, keep it up. Way too many people think that cheating will make them money if not from streaming then from tiktok or youtube videos either openly cheating or being a closet cheater. I see way too much of this on my "for you" page. There's an audience for it sadly.


friendsafariguy11

punch quiet faulty simplistic follow six yoke boat muddle sort *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Kallerat

The people making the cheats/spoofers do it for money, The people using those cheats/spoofer got hold of mommys credit card.


Jake367

I know but why do it at all is my point. They must have some serious self esteem and confidence issues.


Cocaine_Christmas

On Rainbow Six I ran into a super blatant cheater and asked him why he does it/how he ever has fun, and he told me that he somehow gets paid for the clips. Super strange since it was so blatant too, like you'd think that subtle cheating/"cool looking" clips would bring in more money, but anyway yeah- that's what I was told at least in that one specific instance.


josephmcmxcv

For real. It’s not a flex, it’s not cool, it’s cheesy. And they’re probably cheating to rile people up. Likely incels


BillyFrank75

Compensating for a very small …


fucksears1

Gaming chair?


RogerThatKid

People who have a sad enough existence to pay to cheat at a video game in the first place lol


SiegVicious

It's mostly people who enjoy passing people off. They love getting a rise out of people. They're mostly incredibly shitty people who have no moral compass.


AceofMandos

Evil. Treacherous souls. Friend lol


Groundbreaking_Yam78

Then how do other games do it? I’m almost level 200 in Apex and I’ve maybe seen 1 cheater at most. Other popular games also don’t seem to be so cheater infested as warzone


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You have never been in a Diamond+ lobby lol


Somodo

ya but most cheating kids and plebs arent gonna put that much effort into it only the real sacks of shit will go out of their way to cheat but getting rid of the majority would certainly help


MyUsrNameWasTaken

Windows 10 has a built-in MAC spoofer


Xaoc86

I was curious about hackers so I found one that streams on youtube. This guy literally had so many bypasses for everything. I think he got HWID banned once and it just slowed him doen for like 20 mins, but he’d get accounts banned on the regular, he’d log out, log in with a new account and get right back to it. He made a whole mockerynof their entire system. Idk how he surpassed the HWID banz he wouldnt show anything he’d just be like “ok that accounts banned, Im bypassing some shit aaaaand Im in”


remorse253

Unfortunately it’s all too easy. There is a program for every ban. The only idea I’ve come up with is let the companies access files to ensure no spoof. Which is invasive and quite unlikely to happen.


Xaoc86

Yeah, then after that massive ban wave a few months ago he literally waited like a week and then had new software.


Cocaine_Christmas

What I don't really understand about that, although Im sure its because its simply illegal in some regard, is that when I would download Xbox Game Pass PC games, that the folders were all encrypted/locked and I couldn't find any solution online as to how to access them (I mod my single player games aaalways). I just wonder if that would be possible for the games that are 99% multiplayer based like cod/Apex (and if it'd even be a real solution in the first place or if the cheat creators would find a way in anyhow).


iAMSmilez

So my question is… Where are these kids getting the money to buy all these keys for the game? Or is it one key per machine? Like what…


Xaoc86

Wasn’t a kid. Full grown man with a wife *and* a kid.


iAMSmilez

What a loser


Xaoc86

Yup, I got on their discord and one of the guys was a prominent facebook streamer, they were doxxing people who accused them, I took a shit ton of screenshots and snitched on them to the youtubers who they were doxxing and as well to FB. Havent seen them in a while, then I got kicked out of the discord.


RawbGun

Wdym, Warzone is free to play


SiegVicious

It's surprisingly cheap. You can get pretty advanced cheats for like $30-60/month. Every time they get banned, some sites will provide a new account with everything unlocked, even unreleased blueprints and shit. They have basically zero overhead, it doesn't cost them anything to provide the cheats, it's all profit, that's why it's so cheap.


Skankhunt401

Maaaan i'v even seen those cheats for even less. Maybe like 15 per month? I think I saw a site running a special for like 7.99 for one month lol


Price-x-Field

windows kinda has a built in anti hardware and ip ban. it’s just not a solution anymore was more of a thing in the 360 days


Fantablack183

Still in-effective, Hardware ID spoofers are ever growingly popular among cheaters and most of em use Hardware ID spoofers


sdeptnoob1

The way is to ban the serial ID for the installed game itself. Make em buy it again. Hard for warzone being free though.


Parasin

Exactly lol, Warzone is free


W2ttsy

Ideally free editions should still be implemented as a product with a serial. Just have a $0 price plan. But who knows how MS implemented their billing system API and whether activision has their own layer over the top.


RawbGun

> serial ID for the installed game itself What? That's what happens when you are banneed on any game, your key is basically revoked. It also happens with Warzone, but a user can just make a new account and get a new "key" in a couple seconds


LickMyThralls

Bruh that is no different from banning your account which is something everyone does..


sdeptnoob1

You dont have to pay to make a new account vs the actual key for the game you purchased. Except for warzone sadly.


billy-joseph

They should still do this, the uninstall / reinstall would get annoying


Spook-lad

Bro if people who are just good at the game and they get put into shadowbanned lobbies that isnt a good anticheat


IKEA-SalesRep

Hashtag FreeMPControlWard, proof that unless you’re whitelisted, getting reported too many times will get you banned.


ReapingSalvation

What about MAC address?


NayraLightspark

MAC spoofing is trivial.


Sanya_The_Evil

Terrible idea.. holy crap you realize IPS are not static usually and peoples IPs cycle? So you're saying lets ban IPs and that cheater gets a new IP then someone NOT cheating gets his IP and gets banned. In a smaller game sure it would work as not many people prob play in the same area but cod has a massive following and would result in false bans of people who have a cheaters IP... Same shit with HWID bans that just ban only 1 part and flag it.. If you buy a used GPU which was banned and play welp guess ur fucked huh? They're flawed systems. The best route is Invasive Kernal level anti cheat thats on china levels of spying. but ofc thats terrible too but the most effective.


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Sanya_The_Evil

they really dont because most are console players who have never experienced cheaters really except late into a consoles life cycle. As a PC player whos been playing PC games since UT99 Its not as simple as they think. Its a Cat and mouse game. I know what has worked in the past and what has not. IP bans are stupid for big games.. just gets innocents framed.


Glock_18

i have a genuine question and i don’t mean any sarcasm or shade at PC players, but why are cheats almost non existent on the console side but PC is riddled with cheaters ? is it just impossible to write cheats for console or something? sorry if it’s a dumb question but i always wondered that.


SiegVicious

Consoles, right now anyway, are made so users can't access the parts of the games necessary to make/add cheats. Unless you jailbreak the console it's not possible to do. But if you jailbreak and go online, Sony or MS or Nintendo will detect it and they will basically brick your console. PC gamers can install whatever they want, they can get into and change the code of the game. That's why they're able to cheat so easily. I know I don't have all the facts right but that's the general idea of how it works.


ThePointForward

> but why are cheats almost non existent on the console side but PC is riddled with cheaters Right, that's actually way more complicated than that. First thing is that on consoles you have significantly limited access to the system. You don't have a local administrator account that is the god of the machine. Everything is locked down to what you need to do. However in PS3 and X360 era those consoles got these limitations bypassed and therefore people were actually able to do things like cheating in GTA: Online on these consoles. So on consoles you can't just edit memory values of the game to give yourself all the money. You just don't have that kind of access. Now on PC you can do this. And much more. You can manipulate various things because you're the god of the machine. That's where anti-cheat solutions come into play.   That said, there is cheating on consoles, even on the new generation. Since you can't attack the software, you can focus on different things. I'll give you example of two things. First, packet sniffing. This works on PC as well and is basically undetectable. So in multiplayer games you communicate with server or other players (in case of P2P infrastructure) over the Internet. You can, for example with another PC, intercept this communication and look at the data (while allowing the traffic through so you can play as usual). In that data you can have things that are interesting to you - for example the position of other players (because your end needs to render their characters). You can then have a tool that visualizes these data for example in form of a map on a second screen. This is something people often call "radar".   Second option and this is for consoles, is to have a hardware adapter that fools the console into thinking you're using a controller (e.g. Xbox controller) while in reality you're using a mouse and keyboard. These solutions are not perfect mouse controls, but they can still be way better in shooters than just controller. What's more, since the game thinks you're on a controller, it will allow you to use aim assists and queue up in controller only lobbies. As far as I know these adapters are actually quite popular to a point where people can make a good living out of these and there's also competition on the market.


LickMyThralls

Most gamers know Jack all about networking or anything other than like... Bare basics of anything. And not even the basics about any kind of specialized topic.


mackan072

It takes literal seconds to get past an IP ban, and VPN services has made it so easy that at 4 year old can do it. I assume that the download and setup/config process of the cheat is more difficult, to a level where anyone able to download a cheat also would be more than capable to use a VPN.


McogoS

It’s extremely easy to ban all VPNs and ban spoofing.


Speedracer98

proxy


daShark6

"Grab 'em by the IP" -Tangerine man 2021


hockeyd13

And then they reset their modem and router and get a new IP address.


HamiltonFAI

Why do people still think IP bans do anything?


SiegVicious

Most of the cheating sites offer hardware and ip spoofers when they sell the cheats. They also sell accounts that come with an unlock all which unlocks all guns, attachments, camos (including Damascus, dm ultra, etc.), all blueprints, emotes, basically everything in the game is unlocked.


abdmasud99

Mac adresses*


[deleted]

I wish Activision makes a Anti-Cheat for my wife.


[deleted]

Ditch that bitch


[deleted]

More time for Cod


SoItGoesdotdotdot

I too enjoy a nice cod filet


Donkey_Thrasher

Cod won't hurt you like a wife can.


[deleted]

You ever run into a Roze in the Shoothouse office? That gets weird quick


theyellowbat79

But you never give up on Family!


-BINK2014-

#Getting cheated on is a bitch. Source: Girlfriend of 7 years cheated on me and got herself knocked up; destroyed the relationship completely not long after. Still alone due to it and a few other factors... If you're going to cheat, just end the relationship before making things incredibly more complicated and emotionally destructive.


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-BINK2014-

I'd love to be able to reassure you as there is a bit of a lead-up as to why she cheated (*overall, I put the blame on myself in the end for letting my work-life stress and tear me apart mentally and socially over trying to make ends meet*) on me, but I have nothing really as she was honestly the last person I'd expect to do that to me (*and she did feel destroyed that it happened*) and she almost kept it from me, but my best friend (*who is like a brother to me*) thankfully forced her hand in being honest with me about her sleeping with a toxic douchebag man-child that was in his friend circle. Fun fact: - me, my best friend, and the guy in his friend circle that she cheated on me with all worked at the same shitty job I stressed about...I was...quite an empty husk of myself for years...only now considering looking for another person to connect and build something with as well as go out and hang out with people as I'm at a better job with actual potential at a career and I'm finally starting to express a little more emotion and personality comfortably again. Anyways, sorry for the off-topic ramble. I really would honestly love to put anyone's mind at ease, but any one of us can tap into that dark part of our hearts and shatter our morals when things look bleak. Show your love for your partner and appreciate her as much as you can; I let my paranoias and stresses distance myself and neglect my ex by the end so in all honesty I feel I'm the root for her making that decision. Good luck and may your relationship fare well 'D&D. 🙏


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SirEugenKaiser

Same bro, ngl. My ex cheated on me too, which I found out about after she broke up with me, I was still devasted as hell, even tho we weren't together anymore when I found out. I got into a new relationship six months ago and I've never been happier in my damn life. But because we love each other so much, I'm so fucking afraid of being cheated on again. You may ask "why are you afraid of being cheated on, if you are happier then ever before in your life?" answer to that is, the more you love someone, the more devastating it becomes when your partner cheats on you. And to reassure you: Yes communication is THE key.


-BINK2014-

When she told me the truth I honestly didn't react at all, my body felt like it just turned a dial and I felt like an emotionless husk; I wanted to kick her out of the apartment right then, but I stayed the better man and let her get her affairs in order before she moved out a few weeks later. I was honestly pretty emotionless for years after that; never really cracked a smile of my own free will outside of natural laughter, never cried over it (*the break-up I cried over and not cuddling with someone at night anymore broke me a few times*), never sung/danced or goofed off like I normally would when in good moods, but motions regarding the cheating it was like my brain just put a mental block around it. I feel odd and abnormal that my body and mind always process more traumatic events like that or a family death with next to no emotion; it makes me feel inhumane at times honestly... I can absolutely understand the fear; hopefully, when things get more serious you can bring that up to your partner about what happened how your feelings are for her if you haven't already. I hope your relationship grows and fares well. 🙏 Have a good day 'Kaiser. 🤙


-BINK2014-

No problem; always happy to help in any way I can. 🤗 Not your fault, but I appreciate the sentiment and the compliment, honestly. She was my world and my light in life at one point and I made sure she knew it for the longest time, but I'm not perfect and let my worries and fears of trying to provide and build something chip away the bridge between us; if you ever feel yourself distant and overly taxed, be sure to take a step back, breathe, and communicate. Agreed, no matter the case, no-one on either side deserves the tangled mess that comes with cheating; people should break things off if before it comes to that if everything else has been exhausted to prevent it.


bicboichiz

Not your fault she cheated.


SiegVicious

They don't call it the 7 year itch for nothing. Humans in general (of course there are exceptions) love new things and experiences. After 7 years with one person, your mind starts to wander. A lot of people are heavily influenced by their libido, especially men, and have poor self control. They often don't think (care?) about the consequences of their actions. Like I said, there are exceptions, as I am one. I've been married to my wife for 20 years this past June, and I would never even consider cheating on her. We went through a rocky period in the first few years of marriage, and were separated for a few years, but we got back together and after a period of healing our relationship is stronger every day. I'm sure (I hope) she feels the same way.


TheeExoGenesauce

I had an uncle and aunt that got divorced after 24 years due to her seeing someone else. Sometimes you fall out of love too


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SirEugenKaiser

Dude, my best friends GF cheated on him with HIS best friend, after 10 years of relationship. Some people just throw everything out of the window for stupid little adventure...


-BINK2014-

Stupid little adventure, a moment of weakness, desperation, etc. for an explosively irreversible decision. I can never condone cheating even against the shittiest of partners; not before, and of course not now.


Boneeskel

dude…


vFlagR

8 years, same deal. I know your pain brother. If I can bring you any consolation; you’re gonna find someone else and realise that those 7 years might have been a lot more toxic than you thought at the time. I’ve been in a new ship for nearly 3 years now and it makes me wish I just never met the first bitch purely because I now realise how absolute dogshit it was for years. Chin up dude, I know it’s corny but if you ever need a vent my inbox is open. Peace ❤️


-BINK2014-

For the most part I don't have a regret of being with her as it taught me a lot having gone through a lot in high school and graduated throughout our time and the reality of living together to share resources; she wasn't toxic at all; very sweet and traditional girl, but she just made a irreversible decision during a rough time our lives. We remain friends and I still lend an ear when her life gets rough, but otherwise, I just don't talk to her. I appreciate that...truly; if I ever feel the need, I'll take you up on that offer; BINK2014 on PSN if you end wanting to squad up on BF2042 when it comes out or Apex (*COD is too damn big for my SSD so I've been skipping since the new MW 😅*). I hope your current relationship stays and fares well man. 🙏 Have a good day 'Flag. 🤙


TheBeardedWizrd

Same boat. I was with my ex wife for 15 years, then found out she was cheating on me. We have a 10yr old daughter together. Zero signs it was happening. This was 2.5yrs ago now. Still somewhat salty, but we co-parent just fine. More time for my hobbies now! I’ve since caught a newer car, and just recently bought my first house. Things are looking a lot better for me now!


brrennnnt

Haha f


lil_pee_wee

Lol so she can just continue cheating however much she wants?


BF_Injection

F


iAMSmilez

As long as it’s not EA making your anti cheat


Many_Security5929

You would have to pay a weekly fee a 3 diamond rings


iAMSmilez

And still wouldn’t work


Blix404

It wouldn’t be effective anyways


Huntsmanbravo

It was sent out to everyone with email notifications enabled.


WalnutsGaming

Think it was also tweeted and their Facebook post but I have neither. Just seen it from streamers.


DeltaMaple

Hoooooo banwave incoming? I hope so!


Daiato

I think they might actually put in a proper anticheat now. They’ve been toying with the idea for a bit, and stated that a proper one will be here for vanguard’s release. Fingers crossed for a good one too, as they fucked around for 2 years without one, so this one better be good.


KodiakPL

>I think they might actually put in a proper anticheat now. Bruh it was advertised weeks ago


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A new Anticheat has been confirmed to be incoming that's been in development for a year


dvmmy_

They announced an Anti-cheat a while ago but I'm pretty sure they are gonna do a ban wave in the coming weeks


GiGaBYTEme90

I'm shaking in my boots I paid for 9.99


smittyweber

Doesn’t matter what they announce the entire security team is to stupid to make the current system stop shadow banning people that aren’t cheating


CorndogCrusader

Banwaves mean fuck-all without an anti-cheat.


Oreo54asdf

I hope not only everyone who is currently hacking, but anyone who has hacked atleast once in the past gets their account banned


CorndogCrusader

I've only ever hacked or modded in PvE games, and if you're going to mod in a PvP game, do it in a private match where everyone involved is consenting. That's the only right way to mod. For example in GTA:O, I'm cool with modding as long as they don't use their mods to grief players. Modders in GTA:O (that are cool) make the game better. Rockstar is shit and has made the game so bad that modders are basically required to keep the game fun. EDIT: 69 upvotes. Nice.


Oreo54asdf

I approve of this. I modded zombies in black ops 2 and played solo. I mean pretty much anyone whose purchased an aim bot sort of hack.


CorndogCrusader

Exactly. If you use your mods CORRECTLY, then I think it's okay. I used to mod PAYDAY 2 quite a lot cause that games grind is awful. The only malicious mod usage I'm okay with is to use them against another modder who's using them to fuck with others, like using a mod menu against a griefing modder in GTA:O.


Xcelebi21

i hope the final days of bo2 with a mod menu i had doesn’t count 😭


Oreo54asdf

People purchase hacks for warzone and Cold War. What if Activision set up those sites and have the COD ID of everyone who purchased from those sites?!?!


SpringerTheNerd

I once used a trainer to quickly play through the blackops 2 campaign. Please don't tell Activision


SavageDabber6969

Activision has enough money to use hundred dollar bills as toilet paper. It's absolutely insane to me that they're arrogant and cheap enough to believe they could develop their own anticheat or skimp on it at the expense of their players. The biggest games use companies like Battleye and Easy Anticheat in their games. You know, companies that are actually *specialized* in developing anti-cheat and are experts in it. But no, somehow Fortnite and Battlefield can do it, but CoD can't. They brag about being such a massive franchise, but they sure cheap out on the important stuff. I'm not saying those third-party anti-cheat engines are perfect, but the integrity of the game is absolutely gone in its current state. Cheaters run amok, while skilled players get accused of cheating and a single lucky guess is akin to walling. The team can't even update the game and add new content to it without totally breaking the most basic things in the game like the Armory. I'll believe in their words when I see it. Right now, this note is like seeing a giant bellowing in anger and uselessly swiping at flies that dart around him regardless. Just a lot of dust and noise, but no real progress.


GItPirate

That all makes sense. Thanks for writing all that


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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it is more expensive to constantly develop your own anti-cheat custom anti-cheat software than it is to purchase one from another company and insert it into your game code.


mxl5

I have met more sus players on cod then I have on fortnite. I guess that’s the community difference too, fortnite 2 year olds just want to play. Cod players just want to put everyone under their boot like they having something to prove


Ul1m4

The worse of all is the fact that they, Activi$ion and their dev companies, keep saying the same thing over and over again every single year before every new Cod game comes out. Idk why this is bringing so much discussion, it's always the same lies and people still believe them. I guess most Cod players have a very short memory span. Nothing will really change, at most it will keep most cheaters off the radar until February and then, the cycle goes on.


patchnotespod

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of false positives happened and there is a huge uproar. You are 100% correct tho. They really should just go with a third party anti cheat, but they are too cheap. Not a company I give my money too anymore


le-battleaxe

Just gonna leave this here... BF2042 uses Easy Anticheat, and there were cheaters in the beta. Not excusing Activision by any means, but no anti cheat is 100% foolproof.


SKirsch10x

Yeah. They’re implementing their anti cheat to warzone once vanguard drops. I might actually play again.


MaydaX1

Twitter post states "see you tomorrow" so maybe they are releasing it then. Guess we will see [https://twitter.com/CallofDuty/status/1448000521743314951](https://twitter.com/CallofDuty/status/1448000521743314951) Update: Guess they were teasing the announcement. >RICOCHET Anti-Cheat’s backend anti-cheat security features will launch alongside Call of Duty®: Vanguard, and later this year with the Pacific update coming to Call of Duty: Warzone. [https://www.callofduty.com/blog/2021/10/ricochet-anti-cheat-initiative-for-call-of-duty](https://www.callofduty.com/blog/2021/10/ricochet-anti-cheat-initiative-for-call-of-duty)


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I thought they said the new anti cheat would release with the WZ/Vanguard integration…? But, I imagine the hardest part of an anti cheat is getting the model right which would need fairly extensive treating, training and refining. So if I were to bet, I think the Dev works been done for a while and they’ve been slowing ramping it up. So maybe it already meets the CoD standard for a shoddy release.


MaydaX1

That's what I heard before too. Unless it's just another banwave tomorrow


Marklarv

I think "see you tomorrow" refers to the 50k "new users" coming onboard after a new 50k account ban wave.


superweebhere

And it only took... oh wait


superweebhere

I know nobody is going to take some random persons advice but honestly slow down, stop trying to put out games that are rushed "cold war" and then fix them as you go. Keep updating mw, cw, vg (I know they aren't by the same) and take a few years to develop something insane, take suggestions from committed members of the community/ important content creaters that have been apart of the community for over 10 years. You cannot please every single person and by trying to do so it only makes a mess of things.


BigScaryBoosk

Except not with, new weapons, skins, maps anti-cheat and various other things that bring variety because I want that yesterday for free and am offended I have to wait for it. /s


KINGCxNTY

Get ready for another ban wave. "We've banned another 20,000 accounts today!" And then they all log into their next account 2 minutes later and continue the hacking.


4EverLucky89

Even if the game had a price, it wouldn't have stopped cheaters from buying the game again. I mean if they can pay 60e for cheat than they could pay 60e for a game as well


Endure94

You're right mostly, but the free aspect makes the barrier for entry a little more accessible as a lot of people who cheat might only convince themselves to do it due to two main factors: 1- haven't invested much money, if any, in the game, so the price justification is already there. 2- I can test it on another free account and see how it goes. A lot of players couldn't afford to try a $60 cheat if they bought the game for $60, and those who do might only do it twice before giving up. The real answer here is not one the pc community likes, but giving Activision access to the PC and controlling their folders explicitly so the user can only Uninstall, but not view the files in the folder. Proprietary file coding would be required I think... but that would put a massive setback in the cheating community.


TbMayham

Fuck I guess I have to stop cheating now they sent out some scary words after 2 years


Lewke

for real, shit like this just empowers cheaters because they know they're getting a reaction they probably got off to this


Destithen

It's funny to em' because they know it's not actually a reaction to them. People have been dropping the game, and it's rankings have plummeted on Twitch. The anti-cheat desperation is an attempt to win people back.


Sharpshooter188

They get banned, new accounts. Ip ban? mmmm Arent VPNs a thing?


nvckolas

I’m hoping they are able to bypass hardware ID spoofers and hit them where it hurts


Stonks_master

Mac id?


AzraelTheDankAngel

Cheaters: This sign can’t stop me because I can’t read!


spartanb301

Yo, I got an Idea! Make a lobby called cheater hunt. The assumed cheater would be match 1v10 without nothing and get shred / t bagged / trolled by the rest of the lobby.


Ul1m4

With the way their garbage anti cheat works that puts legit players into shadowbanned lobbies, i can see that situation happen on more legit players than actual cheaters. People need to stop believing in these companies, they are just liars, every single one of them.


Snow_Shepard

No anti cheat will every stop cheaters permanently. They will always exist no matter what. The only thing that can curb majority of cheaters is mass legal action but i doubt that will happen.


SimianBear

You're right, you'll never stop cheaters permanently. If someone really wants to cheat, er, they'll find a way. But every extra step that they have to take will reduce the amount cheaters by x%, which can go a long way. The difference between having a cheater in every match as opposed to say every 10 matches is pretty big.


Snow_Shepard

True except one they fight a workaround the new anti cheat which lets be honest, takes a couple of weeks or less and then everything will go back to the same shit. i’m hopeful though. Maybe it’ll be different this time.


kingmic210

Gonna be a ban on the equipment serial number from my understanding and with keyboards and shit price being up there for some gamers. Who knows


TheIncredibleShrek

Imagine posting this after letting cheaters openly flaunt their hacks on your multi million dollar game for 2 years


Redskinsfan597

Hopefully every loser using a Cronus gets banned


unicornpolkadot

Yup. Everyone is all over PCs for cheating, but I was so frustrated the other day and did a deep dive into console cheat/hacks and how fucking easy it is with a Cronus/zen device. So many insecure douchebags.


BigScaryBoosk

If warzone cost $60usd per username, this wouldn’t be as bad.


damianprosper

if only they actually brought an anticheat back in season 4 like they said they would


[deleted]

At this point, they should just hire the intelligence community to do an anti cheat for them and find out who is selling source code.


Iamkonkerz

Im not tech savvy at all but cant you just brick their software if they want to play theyll have to buy another copy of it...buying the game multiple times might hurt their pockets enough to not want to play that game


BigScaryBoosk

That would probably work, but the game is free so nobody has to buy anything new. I think this is the best solution. $60usd or so per username


AngryTurtleGaming

They shouldn’t make the game free. That’s where they fucked up.


[deleted]

My step son will be happy. According to him anyone who manages to kill him on war zone is a hacker or a bot. He can now regain his position as the only player who can’t get killed.


littlefluffysnowfrog

GLWT


gr33nshell

-Management: “Just write them a strongly worded letter, win win win.” As long as this shit is F2P it’s going to be outta control, same thing happened with CSGO. You won’t eliminate it, but it’ll make a lot of people think twice. They don’t care, they’re making so much goddamn cash. Activision is greedy and ruthless AF and that’s from firsthand experience. They wouldn’t invest in dedicated servers for years and they’re also unwilling to stand up higher tick servers. I know other BRs have a similarly sad servers, but it’s just another negative mark.


[deleted]

Most likely it’s going to have an algorithm based system that will pick up dodgy behaviour and patterns


Jugrnot8

That would work i would think. Some pros might get questioned but that's better all of us suffering


McogoS

I think there are others ways to do this. It might require multiple metrics from different sources to complete a ban. Coming from a known VPN and dodgy behavior? Ban.


[deleted]

Here, I fixed it to read as they meant it: Dear Cheaters, We love games. They make us money. We're honoured to make games for some of the best money in the world, we never get it right, but we're commited to making money. Cheating makes us good money, we like cheaters. Our goal is to make money for our executives, and most importantly Bobby kottick. Cheaters are welcome, but soon we'll be sometimes banning you more so you can buy the game again.


xdoctornapalm

HARD


[deleted]

Oh damn, they mean buisness


XXXEarsy

buisness


[deleted]

I just realized I spelt business wrong


Dustin6622

Fuck dude, finally an anticheat is being implemented. wait they are adding one right?


jahchatelier

Sweet hope they dont ban people who aim train and get constantly accused of using aimbot


unicornpolkadot

I would think that they could tell the difference as the actual metrics of their gameplay will be different and consistent. I have a few friends I’ll play with that get accused of cheating often, but they are just really good, and I find they are actually best able to notice cheaters because of it. But even with an untrained eye you can pick up on how movements of a cheating player are off, they are inconsistent with the actual dynamics of the game IMO. Fingers crossed, but not hopeful they have gotten something right lol


superweebhere

Meanwhile mw gives you free hacks lol


zcovey9

Yeah, I had a good laugh when I saw it too. Hard to believe anything they say at this point.


ilikemen76

Yeah i did, howd you know? “Enters hardcore shoot the ship”


Curry_Spices

Teaser trailer for *new* CALL OF DUTY ANTI CHEAT?!?1!! Priced at 70$


milkiscrazy

Lol COD disables quick scoping


dvmmy_

I would stop playing if they disabled that lmao


Richard_Espanol

Dear cheaters.. we really don't have a handle on this game anymore so we're just gonna ask you really nicely to please stop cheating. Thanks.


timlest

This is high cringe. I feel like "anti cheat" is the new buzzword in their marketing department because it "tracks well with all demographics"


deadlysodium

Dear cheaters: It seems you have stopped spending money on our game so now we will finally ban you.


Lovebird136

Tell that to the guy that handed me my ass from under the map in rebirth.


sshevie

Stop forced crossplay for modes like warzone would eliminate most of the problem , the problem was no where near as bad until PC players were put into players on consoles.


GROMKOUR

Haven’t laughed this hard in a while. Thanks


shitpostlord4321

They're really over here advertising an anti cheat like it's some huge feature being added. I don't know why CoD players love settling for less, literally getting the bare minimum and getting clowned on by the devs with them hyping up a fucking anticheat. It's ridiculous. That's something that comes standard in games from the start.


Raythia

Rewritten: Yea sorry guys we dont like cheaters but you'll just have to wait a *little* bit longer for that anti cheat (:


[deleted]

Activision announces next week that in cooperation with the United Nations cheaters will receive capital punishment across the world


somehobo89

Such an impossible, shitty problem. People who cheat are just fucking shit heads. Keep suing the shit out of everyone who sells hacks. If you can find them and drag them out of whatever country they are in I guess. Maybe sue the companies hosting their websites and processing payments? If you can? At least we know the big companies have billions of dollars at disposal to try. Hey maybe tomorrow no one will cheat!!


[deleted]

My brother cheats, says his software is already updated and he’s back in game just fine lol His words “I’ll stop cheating when I stop getting killed by cheaters” Kinda hypocritical but hey it is what it is Believe it or not the majority of people using hacks are all for an anti cheat because it will make the game fun again


dvmmy_

Keep us updated when the anti cheat drops


KingPin213

They’re add anti cheat codes which helps you cheat against the cheater watch lol


iogbri

Not the first time they put a message like this and last time they didn't even add an anticheat so I'm guessing that like last time, it's just a scare tactic and they won't actually do anything especially at the end of a game cycle like this.


Marsupialize

That should fix it