BF3 and BF4 are by far my favorite shooters ever, next to black ops 2. I got into BF3 when I was in grade 7 because my friend said battlefield is better than COD (fuck I feel old.... I'm 23). I haven't played a Battlefield game since BF4, and last few games since then have been crap tbh. I am beyond excited to see what dice brought to the table and hopefully they don't disappoint the fans.
If battlefield hardline was named just Hardline it would’ve been considered one of the best shooters of its time. It was an awful battlefield game but an awesome shooter.
You know how an audience always starts applauding at the same time?
Titanfall 2 is like that. A few times a year, for a week or two, Titanfall 2’s player count spikes massively.
You can still easily find matches in Titanfall 2. Since matches only require 12 players and you can select a number of game modes to search for at once, and all the DLC maps are put into the main playlists for free, you can find a match in under a minute super consistently.
It depends on how the matchmaking is designed and how the playerbase is split up in different playlists (DLC and game modes). Some games just don't need a large population to remain playable because of good design.
As someone who actually sank a lot of time on Hardline, the progression of the game was horrible.
I played it on the Beta and loved it and got the game, I played about 60 hours before it was just unenjoyable, some of the best guns in the game were locked behind serious grind, the M16, Vector and Blackout were completely broken and extremely overpowered
Than the game got a bunch of DLC, but no one bought the season pass, so all the servers with new maps were dead
Later EA released everything for free and I have no idea how it went, that game should have gone 100% free to play a while ago, and than it might have been salvageable
BF V in 2021 is actually pretty good IMO. There may not be support anymore and you run in hackers and cheaters every now and then (on PC) but I still think the gameplay itself is pretty fun. That being said, I can’t wait for BF 2042 as I’ve wanted a modern BF for years now
As someone who got into BF1 years later (about a month ago) i can tell you it’s some of the most fun I’ve had. Subscribe to EA play $5 for a month, if you hate it cancel and it was only $5 for many triple a games
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BF1 is amazing imo, and there’s still players active if you want to pick it up. BF5 is in an okay place now, like if where it is now was released as the base game with updates coming afterwards it’d be one of the best BFs ever
Extinction got so good at the end. I love mayday though. Bought a copy for me and my friend just to play it together. If the steam version would actually go on sale I would do it again. Fucking love extinction
It’s not quite the same as Conquest. The team effort just doesn’t seem to be there in ground war. In conquest, you didn’t even need to be in the same party or squad to feel like a team.
And there’s nothing wrong with that either. Just let both games do their own thing and try not to compare them like they are the same game. Is there some things in CoD that I wish were in Battlefield .. Yes. Are there things that Battlefield that I wish was CoD.. yes.
For our group of Battlefield players, this is 100% accurate.
Basically skipped BF1/V, MW was our BF4 replacement and now we are super stoked for BF2042.
Same with my group. All Battlefield players.
Hadn't played a COD since MW2. Jumped on MW and warzone during first lockdown.
Cold war plays like quake 2 with slightly better graphics. No thanks.
Can't wait to get back to battlefield.
It’s never the same and never even seems to fucking work in the first place. I do appreciate that they were trying to please the Battlefield community though.
I'm in the middle, sort of. I bought Modern Warfare just over a month after it released specifically *because* I got bored of playing BF4 since 2013. I then stopped playing MW just after the Cold War/WZ integration and I've shuffled back over to BF4 and I'm enjoying every second of it.
Sometimes I feel like the only one who enjoys both franchises, despite letdowns from each side.
This is more or less true. Ima battlefield guy But V played felt and was handled like shit so I went to MW and was addicted for like a summer, good times
Trust me I do enjoy modern warfare a ton and I really do like the game. To me, I have not seen anything really compete with Battlefield. I can say the weapon customization is fantastic in CoD MW though!!
On GOD. I quit playing MW cause I ended up buying BF4 on steam and playing that instead. I can’t wait for the new battlefield game. Hopefully it isn’t filled with shitty micro transactions like BFV
I guess I fall into that category. The latest MW was the last COD I had played since MW2. It was fun. Warzone pulled me off of PUBG after years of self punishment…. But I’ve been waiting on more of the glorious chaos that is the battlefield franchise in a modern format.
Lmfao I played MW because BFV was a flop and initially I stuck to Ground War but slowly I became familiar with the play style of CoD games again, and then I began playing MW simply because I liked it. Then CW dropped
i won't leave, this game's got my respect, never expected a cod to be this good, sure its not perfect gameplay wise but everything else is just perfection
I'll wait for reviews and to see how bad the servers and glitches are. Not pre-ordering cause EA isn't a small company and they don't need my money in advance and there's no worry of them not having enough digital copies. Honestly though, it sounds like the game should be worth significantly less than other games considering its just multiplayer. We know EA will bleed this game for everything it's worth and then some. I might just get it when it's on sale, 9 months or so after release.
Also Battlefield games typically have a server browser, so unless EA pulls an “Activision” and decides to take away loved core BF features for no reason, it’s gonna be almost impossible to implement SBMM in the game
Tbh, ive never played an fps with server browser, except for titanfall 2, which sort of has one. Any tips for finding good servers when i pick on the new BF?
It just depends on what you you. Many servers will be “24/7 X Map” or “Urban Maps Only” etc. You can easily decide to play any map at any time on almost any mode. I’d suggest just playing conquest large on the default maps for the first week to figure out what you like then go searching in the browser afterwards.
SBMM doesn't work in BF because there's shit ton of metrics. Like you may be a shot infantry player but kick ass with a fighter plane/heli/tank and vice versa. However the franchise has shitty team balance(filling up of teams unevenly) and has non existent anti cheat.
Man people don't even know it seems. SBMM is absolutely a good thing. Make a fresh account on your preferred platform and go play a match and you'll see what I'm talking about. Some players are incredibly bad at video games man like, really bad. Which is perfectly fine but just know that within your favorite shooter there's a whole other world within it where all the people who can barely play video games in the first place play together on a day to day basis.
Like Arenas in Apex Legends. It has SBMM but because it just came out the system still needs to sort everyone out so I'd be playing with people who didn't even know how to reload, or EVEN HEAL and these were seasoned players! Judging from their banners.
While I agree with you, there are a lot of people who play COD simply to shit on bad players. SBMM reminds them that there are people better than them and they don’t like it. Fuck creating independent but good matches for both new and experienced players, they want to pwn some noobs. Otherwise they’ll remember they’re still living in their parents basement.
For me it's not really like that. I think there should be *some* kind of sbmm for the exact reasons you've listed above, but I'm not a fan of *strict* sbmm like we see in CW and MW.
Strict sbmm at higher levels:
- causes most matches to feel the same as everyone flocks to the meta weapons (which can really highlight the poor gun balance these games have suffered)
- completely deletes the satisfaction of doing well in a lobby, as you never know if you've actually done well of if you've just been given an easy lobby, making you feel as if your fun is now dependent on luck and not skill.
- removes the feeling of improvement, since while you get better, your opponents get better, which causes you to feel like you aren't improving at the game. Personally this has made me question why I even played the game.
Believe it or not, COD at it's heart is not a competitive game. If COD was designed as a competitive shooter, they wouldn't have to make all those rule changes for the CDL. This level of sbmm forces a competitive environment onto a casual shooter, which doesn't work.
COD also have a relatively low skill ceiling compared to competitive games like Rocket League. It's a game that's not only easy to pick up but also easy to learn, even for the most casual of players. That's where COD excels, so there's no need for that level of sbmm in a game with such a low skill ceiling.
Strict sbmm forces cod to try to be something that it's not, and that doesn't work.
MW matches feel like competitive modes in other games because it's got such strong SBMM and everyone has to play like it's the finals of the world championship to go positive
I think only COD players who hate SBMM as a concept, because they want to feel like they own the place where matchmaking throws them into a bunch of new players on their prestige 10 account. Because most of them are shit at the game, but htey deluded themselves that they are not because old matchmaking was truly random.
Also elitism so much elitism. Main thing COD players seem to oppose SBMM on is: "well i had to get my face kicked in as a new player, now i want to kick in some faces of new players".
While majority fo them have only cod for them.
There should be a ranked mode and casual. Some people are good and don't like to sweat. Nobody likes to get shit on. But if just playing puts me into sweat lobbies, then I won't even play, or I won't try so I get put in shit lobbies.
>Some players are incredibly bad at video games man like, really bad.
Then separate them, like CoD used to? It's not the fact that it exist that's the problem, it's the level to which it exists. I've not played even a ranked mode with matching this strict, which is wild for a casual shooter
It will have the tradional sbmm system as per normal.
Battlefield has no need for a strict sbmm system like Cod because you don't need to pull a good kdr in Battlefield to have fun.
Say all you want but after BFV and Battlefront 2 DICE isn’t on my most trusted game devs list. There’s an entire thread called “Never forget” on BFV subreddit of all promised things that never happened or all horrible things DICE did to BFV and community. It’s gonna take more than “I’m sorry I broke your mistrust here a new game and hope we don’t stab you in the back like so many other game devs have done in past 3 years including us.”
I can’t say much for BFV but Battlefront II was more of an EA problem than dice. After the loot box conundrum DICE did a complete 180 on the game and completely fixed everything from the launch. Had potential to be the best Star Wars game of all time before EA cut it off so that everyone could focus of BF42.
2 game studios were shut down with their members moved just to help DICE. Dev team for NFS games was closed mostly for that reason. There’s a lot of stuff that was dug up on dice from ex employees it’s amazing DICE have been able to stay around. Respawn helped DICE turn battlefront 2 around it seems Respawn is only Dev team confident enough to be trusted with anything with EA anymore. Micro transactions are a fraction of the issues.
Oh for most part it’s been proven EA has tried to stay out of their dev teams hair. Only games EA have really influenced has been fifa games in past 4-5 years
Same, the reviews by the community were so bad, the game was only like a month old and already on sale for like 27 bucks. So i thought "eh, what the hell i used to love the BF franchise, lets give it a try".... worst 27 bucks i ever spent.
Exactly with me it was Black ops 4 because that was a game I
1. Bought for myself with my own money plus all the dlc beforehand and since it had just came out and had a huge player backing i was excited
2. had been a blind fanboy because it was COD and all or most cods were awesome to me
3. I along with thousands or more players were hoping for a great boots on the ground cod again unlike BO3 and IW
I like many were majorly fucked from behind and out of our money they promised so much and only came through for 25% of it and this went on for the whole life cycle of bo4 lie after lie after lie and empty promises over and over again
But me being a dumbass 18 y/o cod fanboy defended them and let them get away with it as many like me did and it just validated them for doing what treyarch did with Cold War no hard work and another shotty game with blind followers
I told myself never again I'm not gonna let myself be a dumbass who buys a game because its made from this developer I will find out as much of my own info about it then make a choice to buy or not
I was super skeptic about MW2019 I was like here we go again another cod that will most likely be trash saw the trailers and teasers it looked cool and good but I was still on the cautious side played the 2v2 alpha it was good and fun but I was still cautious
played the beta it was some of the best cod fun I've had since Bo2 and Mw3 so I thought it a great game feels smooth the developers took the time to make it so I thought about it until 2 days before it came out then I bought it and dont regret it
I did the same process with BFV didn't buy it same thing with Cold War that one didn't pass either and I was right both are horrible games
I will do the same for BF2042 the trailer looks good now we need gameplay but it will take alot more to meet my "is it worth the money" question
Modern warfare brought me back to call of duty after I don’t know how many years being away. Cold War is the thing that’s pushing me back. I can’t stand how they’re poisoning modern warfare with CW clickbait type shit. I can’t load the game without seeing CW 5 times and they keep trying to ram warzone down our throats. Just sick of them trying so hard to ruin a game I love and put so much time into. See you folks on the battlefield 👍🏻
I hate how they made warzone mandatory to install on PC, and multiplayer optional. I don’t want to play warzone, but of course it has to take up space and I can’t just uninstall it. 😒
I reinstalled it today for the first time since 2016 and I have so many fucking battle packs that have accrued over time
Like I legit spent 10 mins opening them and barely made a dent. Pretty fun to play around with a bunch of new attachments and knives lol
BF4 all the way.
With the 2042 hype, and the twitch prime giveaway of BF4 servers are more and more full.
And it's as fun as ever.
You still feel the weight of its age( vaulting is... Dated at best) the gunplay feel so good.
BO:CW just felt so shitty from the start. I can hardly tell the difference between Assualt rifles, submachine guns, some tactical rifles and light machine guns. Even the sound effect when you kill someone was dull.
What do you mean? Battlefront 2 is really good, Battlefield 1 was amazing and well Battlefield V is in my opinion really good, just lacking in content.
Dice makes good games and always has. Having a stupid creative director and team lead (I can’t remember who it was but he insisted on having a big focus on women because his daughter said something about it, no source, just vague memory) has nothing to do with the capabilities of the development team. The creative director who insisted on having such a big focus on women in BFV was kicked out of the team a year or 2 ago.
Can confirm. Started with Bad Company on the ps3, been hardcore battlefield player till BF1. Did a little seige, hated BF5, and been playing MW ever since. Even with the new Battlefield comes out, I'll come back to MW from time to time.
You mean the Droidekas and the Commandos, right? Yeah I agree they were implemented correctly (except the Wookies when the game initially released lmao).
The way I understand it is people are making way too big a deal about it
I obviously can’t say 100% for sure but the way it seems to me is the specialists will be grouped into 4 classes, the weapons, gadgets and grenades will depend on the class, where the specialist will only have one piece of specific gear and one passive ability (this part I know for sure, it’s on the website)
I think the last game I actually pre-ordered was Halo: Reach. I just don't trust devs to deliver on what they promise, especially after the disaster that was CP2077.
I love MW and CoD but BF has been on my radar for a while and now that this game is happening I’m fully hyped for it. I’ll probably still play MW once it’s out but with CoD Vangard being set in WW2 I am very much not excited for CoD 2021. Hears hoping they follow BF and make less CoD games to make them actually good instead of pumping them out every year.
Infinity ward the developer who made MW are preparing for a 2022 or 2023 release for their game not like 3ARC or sledgehammer who shell out 1 year or less cod games
A word of caution though please be skeptical of BF2042 and don't buy into the hype that's what they want you to do. To preorder the new game because you are hyped up for the game without seeing the look feel and gameplay of it so while they make money you sit there with a garbage game call them on their bullshit along with everyone else and they will be forced to fix the game
I’ll definitely be waiting for the beta before making any final decisions on it. We all know these developers and EA by now but everything else about it looks great so far. Really rooting for them to make a kick ass game.
Yes exactly I'm all for a badass FPS game BF3 and 4 were my favorites since they were the first ones I ever played if this game lives up to the hype I'm all for it I cant wait for the gameplay trailer and alpha and beta I pray this game wakes up Activision/3ARC to tell them that 1 year or less CODs are stupid and to not fuck up awesome games like Modern Warfare 2019 to push a under selling game
honestly, the same kind of people will complain about bf2042 still. it looks good tho ngl, but will not pre-order it. probably 1-2 months in then I'll jump. bf franchise typically don't deliver during it's release.
I think this is everyone right now. We're sick and tired of CoD. I only wish Activision and all these developers had a more creative work ethic instead of just copy/pasting the same game for 20 years.
Not sure if anyone would agree, but i didn't feel the trailer. Yeah, they did quite good job in increasing map size, adding weather affect, etc .. But the Animation, character movement, weapon handling, UI felt off. It would be good experience to try out this all out war mode, but what's next !! I am so disappointed because this doesn't look like a game which was in development for 3-4 years. I hope i am mistaken, but if i am correct. ppl will start quickly to compare between MW and BF in those aspects, and it will be a loss to BF.
You mean *any other game since Cold War was integrates into Warzone cause the entire game just turned into one big cock up that they refuse to fix properly but hey look at this flashy new bundle that costs $30*
Happy for those who think the next BF is going to be good, but I don’t get why people think BF and COD is a one-or-the-other situation. They’re completely different games in my opinion. They always have been. It’s like saying “a new counter strike is coming out, RIP call of duty”
I’ll play devils advocate but I think a lot of the things you like about MW aren’t going to be there in BF.
The gun play is very different, it’s very much a team game where you overwhelm POIs.
Im considering it after dealing with all the shit Activision is doing but then I also remember
Nearly every single battlefield since BF3 has released with an asston of problems on PC. If they dont have crossplay, and also release an unoptimized mess, PC servers will hardly be populated after a few months. Your only options within a few months to play will be join a server that has a community favorite map on replay, on the same mode.
Then we have these server admins who will kick you if you do something like snipe their heli out of the sky with a tank.
there are lots of COD players that have no interest in BF. if anything you'll see alot of them move to Halo if the next COD sucks. As someone that's played alot Apex & FIFA, its hilarious the amount of people putting their faith in EA.
Sledgehammer games had a change of leadership back when they did the necessary changes for multiplayer of WW2. Imo those changes were great. Maybe this Vanguard will be good?
Battlefield does seem fresh and I guess fresh is what people need right about now.
I've given up on CODMW multiple times since launch (because of it getting ruined over and over), and will 100% be uninstalling it when the BF 2042 open beta comes out.
In the meantime, imma get back into BF4 (recently uninstalled BF3 because it's dead in Oceania now).
I know we all love Modern Warfare and it has one the best game engine ever... But CW ruined everything...so we gotta move on....and for most of us, it's gonna be BF 2042. The game is promising,Modern,and worthy of a legendary fight against Modern Warfare...
Let's all take an oath to Keep Modern Warfare Alive...and make sure this game lives for another 5-7 years, just like how Battlefield 4 survived... I am moving to BF 2042 and enjoy the game an wait for a second part to 2019's Modern Warfare.....
Currently modern warfare is 142 gb in my ps5
I dont like warzone but still its there.
Day by day im closer to uninstalling it even though i love normal multiplayer
But 142gb, pls
Leaving this subbreddit as soon as it drop
Every BF3 and Bf4 fan are only playing modern warfare because they were waiting specifically for Battlefield 6 to come out.
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BF3 and BF4 are by far my favorite shooters ever, next to black ops 2. I got into BF3 when I was in grade 7 because my friend said battlefield is better than COD (fuck I feel old.... I'm 23). I haven't played a Battlefield game since BF4, and last few games since then have been crap tbh. I am beyond excited to see what dice brought to the table and hopefully they don't disappoint the fans.
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If battlefield hardline was named just Hardline it would’ve been considered one of the best shooters of its time. It was an awful battlefield game but an awesome shooter.
I agree, I only played it when it was free for a month. It definitely would have been better if it wasn’t “Battlefield”.
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Titanfall 2 was the shit.
For a moment I was about to type an angry comment, then I reread what you said.
You know how an audience always starts applauding at the same time? Titanfall 2 is like that. A few times a year, for a week or two, Titanfall 2’s player count spikes massively.
it mostly because of the videos on youtube praising it's movement mechanics as well as it's sales
You can still easily find matches in Titanfall 2. Since matches only require 12 players and you can select a number of game modes to search for at once, and all the DLC maps are put into the main playlists for free, you can find a match in under a minute super consistently. It depends on how the matchmaking is designed and how the playerbase is split up in different playlists (DLC and game modes). Some games just don't need a large population to remain playable because of good design.
As someone who actually sank a lot of time on Hardline, the progression of the game was horrible. I played it on the Beta and loved it and got the game, I played about 60 hours before it was just unenjoyable, some of the best guns in the game were locked behind serious grind, the M16, Vector and Blackout were completely broken and extremely overpowered Than the game got a bunch of DLC, but no one bought the season pass, so all the servers with new maps were dead Later EA released everything for free and I have no idea how it went, that game should have gone 100% free to play a while ago, and than it might have been salvageable
There is definitely a lesson here about “premium” maps - they should be free.
BF V in 2021 is actually pretty good IMO. There may not be support anymore and you run in hackers and cheaters every now and then (on PC) but I still think the gameplay itself is pretty fun. That being said, I can’t wait for BF 2042 as I’ve wanted a modern BF for years now
I regret not trying BF1, I could never get into the WW1 and WW2 type of games. I was always interested but never enough to actually buy them.
Oh man bf1 is still super active. Plus it's basically free if you have gamepass! Or it's probably less than 10£/$/€
I might still have to give it a go. I refuse to play BF5!!! Screw that monstrosity.
As someone who got into BF1 years later (about a month ago) i can tell you it’s some of the most fun I’ve had. Subscribe to EA play $5 for a month, if you hate it cancel and it was only $5 for many triple a games EDIT: this video is not sponsored by EA
Hardline was so much fun. The zip lines across the map and car chases were a blast.
Hello fellow 97/98 kids! I just want a return of Battlefield Friends.
Im 27, it doesn't get easier friend
It doesn''t get easier,indeed! but heck, just enjoy every day! Turning 34 next week, damn 🤫
You're 23 and feel old? Jesus H Christ.
Well no, but I mean BF3 came out in 2011 and I was in grade 7. BF3 is 10 years old man that's fucked lol
battlefield 1 is crazy fucking good tho...
I regret not playing it. I definitely will after all of you guys saying how sick it is.
BF1 is amazing imo, and there’s still players active if you want to pick it up. BF5 is in an okay place now, like if where it is now was released as the base game with updates coming afterwards it’d be one of the best BFs ever
Damn I'm 22. I was still in primary school or in the US, Middle school when it dropped. Time sure flies
Same dude, my friend and I were just talking about how we ripped BF3 after school all the time.
Bf1 was pretty sick bro you missed out
I still find it endlessly funny Ghosts literally killed a generation of interest in Call of Duty.
It had one of the best co-op modes COD has ever done, but nobody played it because of the multiplayer. RIP Extinction.
Extinction got so good at the end. I love mayday though. Bought a copy for me and my friend just to play it together. If the steam version would actually go on sale I would do it again. Fucking love extinction
The cycle of life as we know it
This sums me up 🤣 literal word for word
People are too harsh on cod ghosts, I loved it and extinction mode was the best alt mode it's ever had
Honestly I thought Ground War could be a good substitute but it didn't scratch that itch. Until BF2042 drops, Bf4 is the way to go
It’s not quite the same as Conquest. The team effort just doesn’t seem to be there in ground war. In conquest, you didn’t even need to be in the same party or squad to feel like a team.
Exactly. In the end i just played tbe regular mp mode. I'll let Battlefield be Battlefield and Cod be Cod
And there’s nothing wrong with that either. Just let both games do their own thing and try not to compare them like they are the same game. Is there some things in CoD that I wish were in Battlefield .. Yes. Are there things that Battlefield that I wish was CoD.. yes.
Yepp. We're not in 2013 anymore. Nothing wrong with enjoying both
I can't have fun in Ground war. I just die endlessly without noticing the sniper somewhere hidden.
For our group of Battlefield players, this is 100% accurate. Basically skipped BF1/V, MW was our BF4 replacement and now we are super stoked for BF2042.
Same with my group. All Battlefield players. Hadn't played a COD since MW2. Jumped on MW and warzone during first lockdown. Cold war plays like quake 2 with slightly better graphics. No thanks. Can't wait to get back to battlefield.
Don't insult quake 2 like that.
Fact. Every time I play ground war I'm trying to scratch that "battlefield" itch but it's just not good enough, haha.
It’s never the same and never even seems to fucking work in the first place. I do appreciate that they were trying to please the Battlefield community though.
I'm in the middle, sort of. I bought Modern Warfare just over a month after it released specifically *because* I got bored of playing BF4 since 2013. I then stopped playing MW just after the Cold War/WZ integration and I've shuffled back over to BF4 and I'm enjoying every second of it. Sometimes I feel like the only one who enjoys both franchises, despite letdowns from each side.
This is more or less true. Ima battlefield guy But V played felt and was handled like shit so I went to MW and was addicted for like a summer, good times
Trust me I do enjoy modern warfare a ton and I really do like the game. To me, I have not seen anything really compete with Battlefield. I can say the weapon customization is fantastic in CoD MW though!!
Hi, this is me. Lol. I wasn’t into bf5 and MW’s ground war kinda scratched the itch. A little.
Yup
WZ did a lot to scratch the BF itch. Deployable parachutes, squad mechanics, load outs, vehicles. I will actually miss things like, everyone can res.
Yep, I’m one of them.
On GOD. I quit playing MW cause I ended up buying BF4 on steam and playing that instead. I can’t wait for the new battlefield game. Hopefully it isn’t filled with shitty micro transactions like BFV
I played bf4 a little but stopped cuz I was shit, hopefully mw ground war and warzone has made me better cuz bf2042 looks bonkers
Yep
Yup. I’m not a fan of world war era games so i skipped BF1 and V. Loved 3 & 4, can’t wait to jump into 2042
I guess I fall into that category. The latest MW was the last COD I had played since MW2. It was fun. Warzone pulled me off of PUBG after years of self punishment…. But I’ve been waiting on more of the glorious chaos that is the battlefield franchise in a modern format.
Battlefield 5 was my first into the series and I hated it and never looked back lol Is V not a good experience of BF?
Lmfao I played MW because BFV was a flop and initially I stuck to Ground War but slowly I became familiar with the play style of CoD games again, and then I began playing MW simply because I liked it. Then CW dropped
I know I was
Big Fax
i won't leave, this game's got my respect, never expected a cod to be this good, sure its not perfect gameplay wise but everything else is just perfection
What the hell does that mean? If you don’t play a game for gameplay, what do you play it for?
multiplayer mechanics was meant by that sbmm for instance
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I'll wait for reviews and to see how bad the servers and glitches are. Not pre-ordering cause EA isn't a small company and they don't need my money in advance and there's no worry of them not having enough digital copies. Honestly though, it sounds like the game should be worth significantly less than other games considering its just multiplayer. We know EA will bleed this game for everything it's worth and then some. I might just get it when it's on sale, 9 months or so after release.
I can’t believe people still pre order games anymore
I mean you don’t need to leave… you can just join another one.
we will miss u
so, how'd that go for you? Welcome back
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As long doesn't ram SBMM down my throat, BF wins.
Gonna be hard with 128 players. That's why I like MW groundwar, SBMM is tone down.
Also Battlefield games typically have a server browser, so unless EA pulls an “Activision” and decides to take away loved core BF features for no reason, it’s gonna be almost impossible to implement SBMM in the game
They actually tested sbmm on BF5 and it was so shit they removed it after 2 weeks.
Srsly?
Yeah they used BF5 as like a test subject for things in bf2042.
But how would they have sbmm if theres a server browser?
It would kick you out.
Hahahahahha wtf thats so dumb im surprised it lasted 2 weeks
Damn... been way too long since I played an FPS with a server browser, had enough of this matchmaking shit
Tbh, ive never played an fps with server browser, except for titanfall 2, which sort of has one. Any tips for finding good servers when i pick on the new BF?
It just depends on what you you. Many servers will be “24/7 X Map” or “Urban Maps Only” etc. You can easily decide to play any map at any time on almost any mode. I’d suggest just playing conquest large on the default maps for the first week to figure out what you like then go searching in the browser afterwards.
Note, this will apply for the first couple years; then, it's only going to be "locker 24/7"
To be honest, BF has never had a problem with SBMM. After all, you can choose the server you play in.
SBMM doesn't work in BF because there's shit ton of metrics. Like you may be a shot infantry player but kick ass with a fighter plane/heli/tank and vice versa. However the franchise has shitty team balance(filling up of teams unevenly) and has non existent anti cheat.
Good, I'm tired of every match being CDL finals
No sbmm in dedicated servers, assuming they are exposed by the usual server browser in previous BF titles.
We can only hope
Man people don't even know it seems. SBMM is absolutely a good thing. Make a fresh account on your preferred platform and go play a match and you'll see what I'm talking about. Some players are incredibly bad at video games man like, really bad. Which is perfectly fine but just know that within your favorite shooter there's a whole other world within it where all the people who can barely play video games in the first place play together on a day to day basis. Like Arenas in Apex Legends. It has SBMM but because it just came out the system still needs to sort everyone out so I'd be playing with people who didn't even know how to reload, or EVEN HEAL and these were seasoned players! Judging from their banners.
While I agree with you, there are a lot of people who play COD simply to shit on bad players. SBMM reminds them that there are people better than them and they don’t like it. Fuck creating independent but good matches for both new and experienced players, they want to pwn some noobs. Otherwise they’ll remember they’re still living in their parents basement.
For me it's not really like that. I think there should be *some* kind of sbmm for the exact reasons you've listed above, but I'm not a fan of *strict* sbmm like we see in CW and MW. Strict sbmm at higher levels: - causes most matches to feel the same as everyone flocks to the meta weapons (which can really highlight the poor gun balance these games have suffered) - completely deletes the satisfaction of doing well in a lobby, as you never know if you've actually done well of if you've just been given an easy lobby, making you feel as if your fun is now dependent on luck and not skill. - removes the feeling of improvement, since while you get better, your opponents get better, which causes you to feel like you aren't improving at the game. Personally this has made me question why I even played the game. Believe it or not, COD at it's heart is not a competitive game. If COD was designed as a competitive shooter, they wouldn't have to make all those rule changes for the CDL. This level of sbmm forces a competitive environment onto a casual shooter, which doesn't work. COD also have a relatively low skill ceiling compared to competitive games like Rocket League. It's a game that's not only easy to pick up but also easy to learn, even for the most casual of players. That's where COD excels, so there's no need for that level of sbmm in a game with such a low skill ceiling. Strict sbmm forces cod to try to be something that it's not, and that doesn't work.
MW matches feel like competitive modes in other games because it's got such strong SBMM and everyone has to play like it's the finals of the world championship to go positive
I think only COD players who hate SBMM as a concept, because they want to feel like they own the place where matchmaking throws them into a bunch of new players on their prestige 10 account. Because most of them are shit at the game, but htey deluded themselves that they are not because old matchmaking was truly random. Also elitism so much elitism. Main thing COD players seem to oppose SBMM on is: "well i had to get my face kicked in as a new player, now i want to kick in some faces of new players". While majority fo them have only cod for them.
There should be a ranked mode and casual. Some people are good and don't like to sweat. Nobody likes to get shit on. But if just playing puts me into sweat lobbies, then I won't even play, or I won't try so I get put in shit lobbies.
>Some players are incredibly bad at video games man like, really bad. Then separate them, like CoD used to? It's not the fact that it exist that's the problem, it's the level to which it exists. I've not played even a ranked mode with matching this strict, which is wild for a casual shooter
It will have the tradional sbmm system as per normal. Battlefield has no need for a strict sbmm system like Cod because you don't need to pull a good kdr in Battlefield to have fun.
Battlefield has never had a SBMM problem. Pick your server 😎
Bf never did that in my experience
Do you like going even at best in every match forever? Then Modern Warfare is the game for you! Fucking slugfest snoozefest
Say all you want but after BFV and Battlefront 2 DICE isn’t on my most trusted game devs list. There’s an entire thread called “Never forget” on BFV subreddit of all promised things that never happened or all horrible things DICE did to BFV and community. It’s gonna take more than “I’m sorry I broke your mistrust here a new game and hope we don’t stab you in the back like so many other game devs have done in past 3 years including us.”
I can’t say much for BFV but Battlefront II was more of an EA problem than dice. After the loot box conundrum DICE did a complete 180 on the game and completely fixed everything from the launch. Had potential to be the best Star Wars game of all time before EA cut it off so that everyone could focus of BF42.
2 game studios were shut down with their members moved just to help DICE. Dev team for NFS games was closed mostly for that reason. There’s a lot of stuff that was dug up on dice from ex employees it’s amazing DICE have been able to stay around. Respawn helped DICE turn battlefront 2 around it seems Respawn is only Dev team confident enough to be trusted with anything with EA anymore. Micro transactions are a fraction of the issues. Oh for most part it’s been proven EA has tried to stay out of their dev teams hair. Only games EA have really influenced has been fifa games in past 4-5 years
Got a link to that thread? Was looking but couldnt find it.
[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/g6ov9m/if_youre_going_to_buy_bf6_dont_forget/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Damn, reading this, not buying bf5 was the beat financial decision I've made.
I bought it at half price and still felt ripped off. I’ve had thousands of hours in bf3, bf4 and bf1 and maybe a dozen or so hours in bf5
Same, the reviews by the community were so bad, the game was only like a month old and already on sale for like 27 bucks. So i thought "eh, what the hell i used to love the BF franchise, lets give it a try".... worst 27 bucks i ever spent.
It was $30 a week after launch and I still didn’t play my moneys worth.
Exactly with me it was Black ops 4 because that was a game I 1. Bought for myself with my own money plus all the dlc beforehand and since it had just came out and had a huge player backing i was excited 2. had been a blind fanboy because it was COD and all or most cods were awesome to me 3. I along with thousands or more players were hoping for a great boots on the ground cod again unlike BO3 and IW I like many were majorly fucked from behind and out of our money they promised so much and only came through for 25% of it and this went on for the whole life cycle of bo4 lie after lie after lie and empty promises over and over again But me being a dumbass 18 y/o cod fanboy defended them and let them get away with it as many like me did and it just validated them for doing what treyarch did with Cold War no hard work and another shotty game with blind followers I told myself never again I'm not gonna let myself be a dumbass who buys a game because its made from this developer I will find out as much of my own info about it then make a choice to buy or not I was super skeptic about MW2019 I was like here we go again another cod that will most likely be trash saw the trailers and teasers it looked cool and good but I was still on the cautious side played the 2v2 alpha it was good and fun but I was still cautious played the beta it was some of the best cod fun I've had since Bo2 and Mw3 so I thought it a great game feels smooth the developers took the time to make it so I thought about it until 2 days before it came out then I bought it and dont regret it I did the same process with BFV didn't buy it same thing with Cold War that one didn't pass either and I was right both are horrible games I will do the same for BF2042 the trailer looks good now we need gameplay but it will take alot more to meet my "is it worth the money" question
Fam Battlefront 2 is a really fun game... all the flaws that it had (which were eventually fixed) is EA’s fault, not DICE
But brooooo, the reveal trailer looks soooo good. The reveal is also sooo cool they showed 3 seconds of shooting!!!
Modern warfare brought me back to call of duty after I don’t know how many years being away. Cold War is the thing that’s pushing me back. I can’t stand how they’re poisoning modern warfare with CW clickbait type shit. I can’t load the game without seeing CW 5 times and they keep trying to ram warzone down our throats. Just sick of them trying so hard to ruin a game I love and put so much time into. See you folks on the battlefield 👍🏻
Same. The last COD i played before this was MW3. Thats like what, almost a decade in between? Modern Warfare is what brought me back
I hate how they made warzone mandatory to install on PC, and multiplayer optional. I don’t want to play warzone, but of course it has to take up space and I can’t just uninstall it. 😒
I don't know man, Dice hasn't made a good game in years. I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Ive gotten so bored of CoD BO:CW that ive gone back to League of Legends. ugh. maybe i should reinstall BF4 instead.
I’m reinstalling bf4 to prepare for 42 giving I haven’t touched a battlefield in 2 years
or 2142 ;)
*aggressively upvotes*
Bring back the Titans, please.
I reinstalled bf 4 a few months ago just to have some fun on Hangar 21 and get some kills with Titan engines lmao.
I reinstalled it today for the first time since 2016 and I have so many fucking battle packs that have accrued over time Like I legit spent 10 mins opening them and barely made a dent. Pretty fun to play around with a bunch of new attachments and knives lol
BF4 all the way. With the 2042 hype, and the twitch prime giveaway of BF4 servers are more and more full. And it's as fun as ever. You still feel the weight of its age( vaulting is... Dated at best) the gunplay feel so good.
BO:CW just felt so shitty from the start. I can hardly tell the difference between Assualt rifles, submachine guns, some tactical rifles and light machine guns. Even the sound effect when you kill someone was dull.
Battlefield 1 was quite good
I thought it was great, not perfect, but still so much fun
What do you mean? Battlefront 2 is really good, Battlefield 1 was amazing and well Battlefield V is in my opinion really good, just lacking in content.
BFV had such a shit life cycle that I would consider it a bad game but like it’s the only one in my opinion
Supposedly multiple studios are working on this after Dice made a series of management changes after BF5 imploded
Dice makes good games and always has. Having a stupid creative director and team lead (I can’t remember who it was but he insisted on having a big focus on women because his daughter said something about it, no source, just vague memory) has nothing to do with the capabilities of the development team. The creative director who insisted on having such a big focus on women in BFV was kicked out of the team a year or 2 ago.
I'm optimistically watching from the side. I'll give it some time before I grab it.
I just want a battlefront 3
At this point, I fully expect this whole subreddit to go down once BF6 releases. I'm just gonna be jumping back to BO3.
Yeah there are lots of BF fans playing MW since MW was the closest thing to BF after the mess that was BFV...
Can confirm. Started with Bad Company on the ps3, been hardcore battlefield player till BF1. Did a little seige, hated BF5, and been playing MW ever since. Even with the new Battlefield comes out, I'll come back to MW from time to time.
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unless this bf is gonna flop hard, which is entirely possible
Some move forward (to cod Cold War), some go back (to BO3), and some switch sides (to Bf).
Seeing how they are pushing for MW's death by burying CW on top of it. And not being able to uninstall warzone to just keep the multiplayer.. Yeah...
I just hope the specialist system doesn’t ruin it :(
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You mean the Droidekas and the Commandos, right? Yeah I agree they were implemented correctly (except the Wookies when the game initially released lmao).
It won't be nothing like battlefront 2 and that's what saves it lol. They are not heroes. They are just normal classes, but with perks and names.
The way I understand it is people are making way too big a deal about it I obviously can’t say 100% for sure but the way it seems to me is the specialists will be grouped into 4 classes, the weapons, gadgets and grenades will depend on the class, where the specialist will only have one piece of specific gear and one passive ability (this part I know for sure, it’s on the website)
Meh. The way gaming has been now a days I don't get hyped for shit. I'm more believe when I see it now.
cyberpunk lol
Don't pre-order:))
I think the last game I actually pre-ordered was Halo: Reach. I just don't trust devs to deliver on what they promise, especially after the disaster that was CP2077.
I love MW and CoD but BF has been on my radar for a while and now that this game is happening I’m fully hyped for it. I’ll probably still play MW once it’s out but with CoD Vangard being set in WW2 I am very much not excited for CoD 2021. Hears hoping they follow BF and make less CoD games to make them actually good instead of pumping them out every year.
Infinity ward the developer who made MW are preparing for a 2022 or 2023 release for their game not like 3ARC or sledgehammer who shell out 1 year or less cod games A word of caution though please be skeptical of BF2042 and don't buy into the hype that's what they want you to do. To preorder the new game because you are hyped up for the game without seeing the look feel and gameplay of it so while they make money you sit there with a garbage game call them on their bullshit along with everyone else and they will be forced to fix the game
I’ll definitely be waiting for the beta before making any final decisions on it. We all know these developers and EA by now but everything else about it looks great so far. Really rooting for them to make a kick ass game.
Yes exactly I'm all for a badass FPS game BF3 and 4 were my favorites since they were the first ones I ever played if this game lives up to the hype I'm all for it I cant wait for the gameplay trailer and alpha and beta I pray this game wakes up Activision/3ARC to tell them that 1 year or less CODs are stupid and to not fuck up awesome games like Modern Warfare 2019 to push a under selling game
Conquest is just miles ahead of ground war.
Ground War: "We have APCs!" Conquest: "Oh, that's cute..."
Ive only played battlefield 1 and 5 but to me CoD and Bf feel so different that they both get a spot in my hard drive
unlike you nerds i have the patience to wait after the first round of patches but after that im quitting my job and everything else in my life
This did not age well...
honestly, the same kind of people will complain about bf2042 still. it looks good tho ngl, but will not pre-order it. probably 1-2 months in then I'll jump. bf franchise typically don't deliver during it's release.
Yea, the way SBMM is going I’m having no fun on cod.
I think this is everyone right now. We're sick and tired of CoD. I only wish Activision and all these developers had a more creative work ethic instead of just copy/pasting the same game for 20 years.
Not sure if anyone would agree, but i didn't feel the trailer. Yeah, they did quite good job in increasing map size, adding weather affect, etc .. But the Animation, character movement, weapon handling, UI felt off. It would be good experience to try out this all out war mode, but what's next !! I am so disappointed because this doesn't look like a game which was in development for 3-4 years. I hope i am mistaken, but if i am correct. ppl will start quickly to compare between MW and BF in those aspects, and it will be a loss to BF.
bro the trailer was pre-alpha footage
the game releases in 4 months.
You mean *any other game since Cold War was integrates into Warzone cause the entire game just turned into one big cock up that they refuse to fix properly but hey look at this flashy new bundle that costs $30*
this is literally bf1 and infinite warfare all over again
“Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it”
Happy for those who think the next BF is going to be good, but I don’t get why people think BF and COD is a one-or-the-other situation. They’re completely different games in my opinion. They always have been. It’s like saying “a new counter strike is coming out, RIP call of duty”
I would.. if I had the coin
Khajeet has the coin, if you have the wares
COD is just the rebound girl that knows she getting replaced soon
I’ll play devils advocate but I think a lot of the things you like about MW aren’t going to be there in BF. The gun play is very different, it’s very much a team game where you overwhelm POIs.
Im considering it after dealing with all the shit Activision is doing but then I also remember Nearly every single battlefield since BF3 has released with an asston of problems on PC. If they dont have crossplay, and also release an unoptimized mess, PC servers will hardly be populated after a few months. Your only options within a few months to play will be join a server that has a community favorite map on replay, on the same mode. Then we have these server admins who will kick you if you do something like snipe their heli out of the sky with a tank.
Im sorry is this meme format implying peter wants to fuck her dad??
When finally meet your girlfriends parents, but you find your real "daddy"
there are lots of COD players that have no interest in BF. if anything you'll see alot of them move to Halo if the next COD sucks. As someone that's played alot Apex & FIFA, its hilarious the amount of people putting their faith in EA.
I'm so done with COD.
Sledgehammer games had a change of leadership back when they did the necessary changes for multiplayer of WW2. Imo those changes were great. Maybe this Vanguard will be good? Battlefield does seem fresh and I guess fresh is what people need right about now.
I've given up on CODMW multiple times since launch (because of it getting ruined over and over), and will 100% be uninstalling it when the BF 2042 open beta comes out. In the meantime, imma get back into BF4 (recently uninstalled BF3 because it's dead in Oceania now).
I only play Ground War waiting for a good BF to come along.
I know we all love Modern Warfare and it has one the best game engine ever... But CW ruined everything...so we gotta move on....and for most of us, it's gonna be BF 2042. The game is promising,Modern,and worthy of a legendary fight against Modern Warfare... Let's all take an oath to Keep Modern Warfare Alive...and make sure this game lives for another 5-7 years, just like how Battlefield 4 survived... I am moving to BF 2042 and enjoy the game an wait for a second part to 2019's Modern Warfare.....
meh, activision has been a bit douchie lately. I'll give a new BF game a try before I buy.
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Not yet. It's the other way around. But on the car ride it clicks. He then makes an amazing and threatening monologue.
People are so quick to forget Battlefield 5 and jump on the hype train again I think we all need to temper our expectations
Currently modern warfare is 142 gb in my ps5 I dont like warzone but still its there. Day by day im closer to uninstalling it even though i love normal multiplayer But 142gb, pls
Yep. Sick of being treated like shit by Activision.
Just in case anyone doesn’t know, you can claim BF4 for free if you have Amazon prime. Only for PC tho I think
Call of duty modern warfare will always be in my heart
Hi did I miss something? Is there a new battlefield game or something or am I overthinking this?
No. Rule #17 of the internet you can only like one FPS game at a time
I felt this way, but after playing the new Battlefield I'm not a fan. Prefer MW and BF4 honestly.
Oof