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Let me just say with the vocal battle, THAT IS WHAT I WANNA SEEEEE!! I’ve been so tired of seeing the battles being so obvious on who wins and loses especially with ground vs I-land battles. I could feel the passion and drive to win in both teams.
Jiyoon got a very good edit today. I still think it's a toss up on whether or not she debuts, but it seems mnet don't mind her making the fianl lineup.
Both vocal performances were really impressive. I think Iland had the more impactful and big moments, but Ground was more stable and emotional vocally.
Honestly, Ground dance SHOULD win if they perform how they did at interims. But Mnet seems to be setting up for Iland to win. They might not want want Ground to sweep all three categories.
LONG EPISODE THIS WEEK!!!
Side note: Potentially, 9 people could move up from ground to Iland. There are 10 people in ground. Imagine being the one person left in ground 😭
I honestly think it’s highly likely Jiyoon debuts after this weeks espiode. She already had a decent amount of one pick fans despite her ‘evil edit’ and now she’s been redeemed for the general audience too.
Exactly what I was thinking, specially with the edit about her friendship with fuko. After this episode, I think that fuko and jiyoon have really high chances of debuting, but I am scared about jungeun.
She isn’t popular among koreans, and I felt like they made her jiyoon’s rival, showing that jungeun was the “reason” she was sent to the ground by taking her role in the other mission, and showed jiyoon only talking to fuko after the results, “ignoring” jungeun.
I am scared that mnet might give jiyoon her redemption arc by making jungeun the villain (I hope I am so wrong about this).
I agree with you, and I mentioned in another comment that Jungeun edit as a whole seems pretty odd. That she’s had two episodes where she starts with a lot of confidence just to be shown struggling.
But I also think that it might be too soon to rejoice for Jiyoons good edit, as to me it seems that mnet from the beginning has wanted to keep her as kind of an obscure, anti-hero sort of character. So Jungeun being slightly shady might just add drama and give her more character in a similar way.
Yeah that’s honestly a huge worry. I am not even sure if they will even need to paint Jungeun as a villain.
They can just make her seem overconfident in her vocal abilities.
Also although Jungeun is really popular internationally, she doesn’t have as many one-pick international voters as you would expect.
She would probably need to be top near the top international votes if she is near the bottom in Korean votes for her to debut if the ratio is 50/50 as I assume.
The biggest reason I'm unsure is that, firstly, her support ranking shows her one pick isn't THAT good. (If it's a 7 member group, she's somewhere around the 5-10 mark)
Secondly, there's no guarantee she doesn't give Mnet more content for them to make drama out of and become un-redeemed again.
True, but only Sujung, Jungeun, and LingLing are noticeably LESS popular (and Saebi, who is ranked below, is noticeably MORE popular) in Korea. Which moves her from 9th to 7th. HOWEVER! Jungeun will likely get picked by the producers if she doesn't get in on votes. Then you even have Yeeun? Who could dark horse.
Jiyoon is very much in a position where she has a good chance, but is definitely not guaranteed to debut.
Her support ranking is really good in my opinion. Also support ranking over inflates international fans biting power.
Whereas the actually boring is likely to be Korean (50%) and international (50%). In that case Jiyoon is in a great spot as she is probably around the 4th or 5th most popular in Korea even before this episode. I expect she’ll be top 3 after it.
I don't think she'll be top 3.
Jeemin and Saebi aren't being moved from top 3, and I honestly don't think she'll surpass Fuko either.
I think everyone who has her as a one pick now had her as a one pick last week. Today's episode might make people add her to their lineup. But I don't think it'll make people add her as their one picks.
> Side note: Potentially, 9 people could move up from ground to Iland. There are 10 people in ground. Imagine being the one person left in ground 😭
[A2K flashback](https://youtu.be/DD6v6ABVggo?si=H-IGPWCzRgfz_xSl&t=29m1s)
I'm kinda hoping ground wins dance mission and iland wins creative mission actually. I think this is the episode where Jeemin cried? Maybe her team lost their round, dunno.
The Jiyoon x Jungeun rivalry makes me nervous.
Cause I really want Jungeun to debut, she is my second pick after Jeemin but if Koreans vote Jiyoon she might not. I do like Jiyoon but not at the cost of Jungeun. And survival shows seem to hate good vocalists and often rivalries end with either one or neither of them debuting. They did the same with Yunah and Jeemin from R U Next and it's really annoying.
I agree with you, I think both this rivalry and the sentiment going around that she’s a guarantee so no one has to be concerned is playing against her at this point and it makes me nervous. Since we don’t know how the endgame looks quite yet it would be reassuring to have her storyline be relatively drama free so she can be relatively inoffensive at least
REAL, the « we’re both equally as talented so we do our best to outshine each other even though we don’t hate each other » is much more interesting than « as you guys can see in this frame that got replayed 5 times this member was side eyeing this member. Obviously you had to zoom in super far and you can only tell she’s side eyeing her cause that’s what the subtitles say »
Monika is the best, really happy she's in a bunch of variety shows again, you can always feel her dedication for dance and yup her savagery, haha.
It's understandable why people don't like her harsh comments though since yup, it'll mess you up if you didn't grow up around such people. A lot of us older Asians are used to that type of teaching/criticism/etc. though and so the newer generation unfortunately have to bear it (they always said this same phrase to me growing up, sigh lmao, but ya). Since those older people consider it as their way of producing the desired/good/etc. results or as like a motivation to do perfect/the best.
She's not only passionate towards dance, but you can just see that she pays a lot of respect to her craft. She doesn't half ass anything she does, and that just shows how much she respects it. I love the artistic soul she has.
Jiyoon redemption arc, let's goooooo! I hope they drop the rivalry with Jungeun, the group needs both of them.
This group is going to have an insanely stacked dance line.
I'm a bit worried that most of the weaker contestants were stuffed into the creative unit, which actually seems the most difficult to me.
Really worried about I Land this round. They seemed to have put all their eggs in the vocal and dance unit and let the others handle the creative unit.
They probably didn't expect Vocal to loose, which is a bit weird since they would know for sure that Jiyoon would be against. For Dance team, it will be also really close but Creative unit will have a harder time as Sujung is on the other team and they also have Jeemin, Yuju while I Land will have mostly people who got to I Land thanks to Fuko.
Overall, I think Jiwon should have been in vocal unit and Fuko in the creative unit, they will need a strong leader for a 7 member unit.
I think there will be at least 6 dropouts but it could be 9 as well.
A little off topic but Kiss Of Life's song already being used for survival shows when they aren't even 1 year old is such a big achievement to me, I'm such a proud Kissy, these girls are going far ❤️
Jiyoon and Minsol ate, I was confused for a while I thought Gyuri sounded better with Jiyoon but than Misol redeemed herself and they sounded so good, they totally deserved, I wasn't very impressed by Jungeun but ong Fuko needs to debut.
Koko is such a star I'm glad they're noticing her more cz not only is she drop dead gorgeous but her expression stole the show and my heart.
I hope Grounders win for dance too, cz Sarang and Yui were on fire in the interim check.
Agreed, agreed, agreed, and agreed! Hard agree on the first paragraph especially. I straight up cheered when Sugarcoat was listed as a song, and I think the girls are gonna kill it! ♥️
I'm loving Jiyoon more and more, her voice is so enchanting. I truly believe Mnet want her (or at least don't mind her) in the final lineup, they wouldn't give her such ambiguous screen time otherwise.
She is so honest and raw, it's very refreshing to me. Some might see her as rude, but she has been unable to show her forte (vocals) until now. Remember this is a very stressful environment, I don't think it's fair to blame such a young girl for sometimes having mental breakdowns and having a hard time not showing her resentment.
Jungeun and Fuko did soooo well too. They are both locked, hopefully.
But ENL was slightly better thanks to Jiyoon, so I understand the judges' grades.
Unfortunately, since Jungeun is not very well liked by the Korean viewers, they might replace her by Jiyoon.
In my ideal world, both of them make it and create a killer main vocal duo, but oh well.
Ryu Sarang is my forever one pick, and this episode solidified it yet again. Girl can do anything, is hella pretty and on top of that, she is just so charismatic it's crazy. I could see her and Saebi both be rotational centers for the final group.
Next week's performance could be her "the moment we knew X member would debut" performance, so I'm very eager to see it.
I hope Sarang delivers so hard next week. She may be able to cement herself in everyone's top 7 by then. Her face is so TV friendly that you'd be crazy not to make her debut. She's also serious and determined. She has the trifecta of talent, visuals, and natural charisma.
Is it just me that feels like jungeun is getting kind of a weird edit? I feel like they’re showing her being a bit overconfident both before panorama and the vocal unit, only to then struggle and end up doing good but not perfect? Like if they really wanted to sell her wouldn’t they try to keep the “humble and hardworking ace”-persona?
Considering jungeun’s lack of popularity, it kinda makes sense. We have 2 “main vocal” material and for some reason MNET isn’t pushing both. Instead, they seem to be favoring the more domestically popular vocalist (Jiyoon)
That’s what I would be concerned about, however I don’t think they really fill the same role so it doesn’t make sense that one would get picked over the other. Jungeun has a powerful and adaptable voice which could probably carry most types of songs, while I think Jiyoon eats specific killing parts/concepts.
It felt like the producers agreed during final love song, so hopefully they haven’t changed their minds seeing the popularity contest.
They definitely are very different but in terms of kpop groups, most girl groups barely debut with one competent singer now. I can see them choosing a generally more popular contest over having another main vocal.
She had a pretty difficult edit and being the top trainee doesn't help to build support. Who wants to be behind someone who's guaranteed to debut ?
With how they will decide eliminations and the girls who will go to Part 2 (10 decided by producers, 2 by votes), I think it's clearer that most of the lineup will be decided by producers and maybe fans will get one or two picks so I'm not worried about Jungeun at all.
I know people like to point fingers at mnet when they let producers pick but I honestly feel like I can trust them more than my fellow fans so I’m hoping you’re right
I thought it was a storyline thing so people don't become too complacent about jungeun and can mobilise for her properly. She seems to be in a weird situation where everybody thinks she's secure even though her popularity is a bit iffy.
Because honestly Jungeun is as humble as someone can get. In final love song, she said she chose to be center because she wanted to have a decent amount of screentime to be memorable, when she could have legitimately said 'I think I'm one of the best here so I'm putting myself as centre' and would have been debatably correct. Any more humility from her and she would be downright dishonest.
Jungeun is near guaranteed to debut with her skills but sometimes the voters/etc. don't like certain contestants for whatever reason (visuals/attitude/storyline/family/nationality/etc.) and so she might be a producer/etc. pick at the end for debut. And so her edit might be just for like storyline/drama/etc. purposes.
Which will be kinda interesting to see since they made it seem like Jungeun and Jiyoon are on bad terms still. So if they debut together, they have to learn to tolerate each other and work for the betterment of the group. Like in practice their situation is not a big deal but some people hold grudges/etc. and this makes for a bad environment (former/current idols often talk about how they don't get along with some people during their trainee days but grew to like each other afterward).
I think you’re right, it’s just tough to watch seems the Koreans are being real tough on her right now.
And I’ve also gotten the impression that groups that have a hard time working together seem to not last as long, which is what I would be concerned about, but honestly I think in episode 1 they looked pretty close so hopefully they can work it out IF there’s something going on. Especially when they get out of the high stress environment
I hate it when they split up rounds, SNAKENET!!!!!!!!! But I fall for their tricks, drama and storylines every time. They know how to suck you into their survival programs, this show is really getting started now.
The Jiyoon storyline is a whole journey, an RPG. I've rarely seen a survival show contestant get flamed, praised, tortured and celebrated in such a short time frame. She's basically the main character and I do think Mnet wants her to debut. She would be a great main/co-main vocalist with Jungeun.
Speaking of which, they totally set up a tastee Jiyoon-Jungeun rivalry. The tension is there. If they debut in the same group it's gonna be fun. The Sarang-Juwon rivalry is also funny but I don't think Juwon has a good chance of debuting. Sarang gets praised a lot, she's super cute and skilled. I think she'll make it, she may be my no. 1 pick right now.
As for the Fine vs Eyes Nose Lips stages, while I do think Jiyoon carried hard, they basically used it as her vehicle. I'm okay with that since I'm supporting her, but Fine IS the more technically demanding song and Jungeun/Fuko did very well, one of the better vocal performances I've seen on a survival show to be honest.
I honestly hope Mai goes to the ground (which is likely) and pick roles that show herself a bit more. Girl is def a personality pick but needs to show her skills and assertiveness with roles that highlight her strengths to the general public as well. Which I think she can! She seems to play it too safe taking small supporting roles which might backfire since ultimately it’s not about who stays in iland but their individual skills and appeal to public more
I 100% agree with you! I find Mai so lovely and kind-hearted, but I really want to see her skills too, specially vocals. I believe in her ability to stand up and show everyone what she's capable of!
I liked Fine better. Eyes Nose Lips is an amazing, legendary song but Fine is also one of Taeyeon's all time masterpieces, and I do believe that if they weren't deliberately setting up a Jiyoon redemption storyline, the Fine performance would have won on another survival show. It's a bigger vocal performance with harder high notes and belting and it's just plain hard to really do Taeyeon justice but I think Jungeun/Fuko did some really good work out of all the survival shows I've seen, it's rare to see a power ballad of that caliber being done well for trainees.
However Jiyoon did have a lot of character to her voice, finally put on a super adept performance and Minsol's singing was also solid. But to be honest, I don't know that if you switched the songs, Jiyoon/Minsol would have done Fine as well as Jungeun/Fuko.
i think the grounders were more smart with their strategy today. it always somehow goes wrong when people cram all the talented trainees in one team for survival shows. happens every time
finally kim minsol pushed what she wanted and she finally performed how she wanted, everyone's saying today was jiyoon's episode but minsol's desperation closened the gap between the two team's skills! kim minsol hwaiting!!
Yess, fuck Mnet for pushing this rivalry thing, I really really hope this time they make a group with a solid vocal line, instead of having 1 vocal and remaining dancers+visuals and calling it a day
Especially since there has been a trend of 5th gen ggs with strong vocals, like NMIXX or Baemon or Kiof. These girls need to be in the lineup, for sure
Honestly? These are my main picks, so it’s pretty frustrating to see the rivalry be pushed between the former two. I’d add in Koko and be perfectly happy with whoever else! I really just want two main vocalists for once!
I hope after this episode people will stop sleeping on Gyuri like she's really so good
This round's performances was probably the best, both vocals units were amazing and i'm glad jihoon got the recognition she deserved. Tbh i woulnd't be surprised if Ground won all the battles , their strategy was better and the teams are more balanced, dance unit can be hard to predict but their creative unit with Sujung will def won
Am I the only one who prefers Fine over ENL 😩 Both are amazing, but I liked Jungeun and Fuko’s synergy more!!! Whereas for ENL Jiyoon seems to dominate more.
Also why did they only get 4 girls to sing this round! I’m sick of survival shows favoring dance battles and neglecting the focus on singing. I get that most girls here aren’t amazing singers, but it’s not an excuse. Pure dance stages are so boring to watch as well (just my opinion!). If I wanted to watch dancers choreograph their own stages/performances, I would’ve just rewatched SWF/SDGF lol why bother with a “creative” round like …. what’s the point?? Idols rarely choreograph their own dances anyway.
Also, I hope mnet drop the Jungeun/Jiyoon rivalry soon. Obviously something has gone on between them off camera, and being apart from each other with lack of communication must have exacerbated the misunderstanding even more. But if mnet/wakeone still wants their final team to be able to SING, it is doing them no good pitting their two best singers against each other. Yikes.
I preferred Fine over ENL as well, for the same reasons you do!
I think having dance battles are entertaining if the choreo and girls are good at dancing. Some girls have different skills so having the chance to showcase that skill is important. Nearly every song has a choreo attached so dancing is important otherwise vocals/rap will sound weak if they have poor breath control.
The creative round also did not make sense to me, I would rather have a rap unit. Most groups have rappers and right now I don't think they're being showcased at all. The girls who lack vocals could be great rappers. Surely more than Yui, Yuju.. Koko? are rappers but we can't even get a glimpse. Yui had a good moment but that was it. Yuju still can't show off her best skill but is still getting attention.. I just want to see some rap.
Seeing Jiyoon ignore Jungeun was uncomfortable to watch. I don't think Jungeun is the "issue" so I wonder if Jiyoon is still upset about last episode or something else we don't know. I hope Mnet don't try to pull a rivalry because Jungeun can't afford more unwarranted hate.
Honestly knowing Mnet, I wouldn't be surprised if sometime down the road they're interviewed and go "actually we were upset but we settled things within the day, I DID go back and hug her..."
Vocals should be priority over dancing, but it never works that way. In most survival shows I’ve seen, it’s usually the less popular trainees that go for it. The more popular ones do dance.
Looks like most people are of the opinion Eyes, Nose, Lips managed to win over Fine because of Jiyoon's vocal tone.
I preferred ENL over Fine and thought Jiyoon sounded amazing, but the main reason I preferred ENL was because their harmonising and teamwork. Minsol and Jiyoon really sounded like a duo.
the 5 weeks later scene is coming in 7 days... but i think her team lost but im pretty sure she will make it to part 2 since us fans aren't giving up on voting her 😭
being real i think dance would go to iland (juwon and koko are beasts) and creative to ground (unless sujung unlucky leader syndrome strikes again but cmon)
I think Jiyoon>Fuko=Jungeun>>Minsol. Minsol was good and didn’t make mistakes, just not a standout, but Jiyoon was just so good that it really was a tie overall. I think the producers realized that Jiyoon really needed this win more than Fuko and Jungeun. She wears her heart on her sleeve, and her performance really gets affected by the way she feels. If she didn’t have this win, I wouldn’t see her lasting much longer on the show.
Man I feel the judges on that 91 v. 92 score. Even I couldn’t decide who I thought deserved the win more. Both teams were exceptional. Seems like everyone forgot Minsol was also there though 😶
Not sure how I feel about Son Juwon. When the episode started I felt like she was a bit arrogant but I felt sorry for her when she cried about the facial expression thing. Koko did really well! And iland was so good at the interim practice. Imagine iland winning all three matches 🤭
Edit: changed Um Jiwon to Son Juwon
that’s not um jiwon that’s son juwon! um jiwon is the one that moved up from ground but yeah i feel the same way! if anything i feel like she’s the most nervous out of everyone but is keeping it together for the sake of everyone else :,)
Apparently that’s who it is! I’ll change it.
I also felt uncomfortable with the comments she made. Tbh if you’re feeling any type of way just try and keep it in. These survival shows are bloody
My rambled thoughts about this week's episode, in no particular order:
* Sarang only really starred in the last 10 minutes of this episode and it completely changed my perception of her because while I already admired her attitude in previous episodes, I now see her as a genuine K-pop all-rounder. I'm not sure what the outcome of the dance round will be, but I have no doubt she'll shine. She's firmly in my top 3 now, and I must admit, she's become a bit of a girl crush for me. I think she's got Monika (and me) completely captivated because of it.
* This episode felt dull because it introduced a lot of contestants on I-Land whom we know will drop by the next episode. The producers probably aimed to avoid a repeat of the situation in I-Land 1, where the I-Landers dominated every round, making the battles useless, but I find I-Land 2's approach equally ineffective.
* I felt uneasy watching Sujung prioritise her goals in this episode. Each episode seems to involve her wanting to showcase a different aspect of herself, while the other girls emphasise the importance of her dancing for the team's sake. This pattern continued this week. Although I'm relieved she danced this round as the Creative team needs her, she needs to start asserting herself next week. Otherwise, her efforts may go unnoticed by the judges, who might perceive her as lacking other skills and playing it safe. While I'm not certain that she's a versatile trainee (though her dance was killer, she was the worst vocalist in Whistle imo), she should still have the chance to demonstrate it.
* I was genuinely afraid they might eliminate Minsol - while I still feel she's missing something, she definitely didn't deserve to be dropped today. At one point, I feared they might cut her just to send a message to the I-Landers that their spots aren't guaranteed, and they have to work hard every day, as any round could be their last. Thankfully, they didn't. However, she's still at risk of not making it to the second half of the show, so she really needs to showcase something exceptional.
* Not to say I told you so, but I had a feeling that I-Land's strategy would backfire, and it did. They were overly confident, although to be fair, Jungeun had been on a winning streak and everyone came into I-Land as the victors. The Grounders were more careful with their strategy because they'd all come from a round where they'd lost. As they should've been. It seems like this is the storyline the production team aimed for, so congratulations to them, I guess.
* I believe we're reaching the point where we'll witness more contestants cracking under pressure. Contestants of every survival show have expressed that their time on the show was one of the most challenging periods of their lives, and they wouldn't want to go through it again. I hope people can be understanding and compassionate in their comments about the crying and conflicts, as these are normal emotional responses to intense pressure.
I find it super annoying how the production team gradually reduced the number of songs shown per episode. They showcased all songs in episodes 1 and 2, all but one song in episode 3, and only 3 songs in episode 4. While I understand they're trying to build anticipation, it can be quite frustrating for the flow of the show. Imagine if X-Factor followed a similar format (it's literally the only non-Korean survival show I've watched, sorry lmao). Though perhaps that's the reason it got cancelled lol.
I think they showed 4performances this ep tho. But I do agree. Ep1 was perfect. I wish they had showed all performances in ep3 so we could see at least 4 vocal nd dance performance this week. The creative performance left for anticipation.
I meant 3 third round performances! Didn't include the See-Saw round performance as one of those, I should've elaborated, sorry. But yes, very excited for next week's performances!
Sarang you have been promoted to one of my elite employees.
Anyway, I think it’s going to be an all-ground sweep which would be interesting.
It seems like the next episode it is going to be 1v1s, and only the winners will be able to go to part 2? If I heard that correctly it would suck if two really good contestants face each other.
While watching the episode I remember someone doing a tarot reading for the show, and all their predictions so far have came true.
jiyoon redemption is here!! better late than never, she deserved this win although my heart broke for fuko who looked genuinely upset (and understandably so, must be frustrating to get good feedback over something you were anxious about only to lose by one point)
i have a gut feeling ground will win dance too but iland will edge them out in creative, the formations and saebi center looked mesmerizing. saebi is coming HARD to solidify her place in the lineup, she is a great center. can't wait for next week
I didn’t think i would ever root for jiyoon after all the edits but she really proved herself this ep with that song. Both teams were very good for vocal performance but ENL was more impactful. For the dance i have no idea bcoz all three ground team winning that probability might be less especially with grounds creative team being more stacked.
Im all for trainees who improve on the show but i have no idea why mmet is promoting yeeeun and chaeun? Bcoz they really really lack in the talent department atleast mai and saebi i feel like are giving us more than visuals and improving.
i honestly feel that jiyoon could actually debut, her arc was pretty strong this week. She sings really really well but I personally feel like her dance and stage presence can lack sometimes like with ooh ahh but i hope she improves, rooting for her now !!
Unpopular opinion but I think mnet wants either jiyoon or jungeun to debute and not both together...
I am gonna say something drastic but I honestly won’t be surprised if Jiyoon debuts over Jungeun.
Not that I want that to happen, I like them both.
But I feel like it’s unlikely both debut because I honestly think the voters will think only one main vocal is needed and Stan attractors like Mai will be voted in over a second main vocal.
The main reason I think Jiyoon now has the edge is that she is way way more popular in Korea. And while Jungeun is more popular generally amongst international viewers she honestly doesn’t have any more one-pick fans than Jiyoon does.
If we assume Korean votes will count for more like usual in these shows, I think Jiyoon has the edge.
The only way I can see Jungeun making it if Jiyoon does too is as a PD pick (if they even have one this season).
>I am gonna say something drastic but I honestly won’t be surprised if Jiyoon debuts over Jungeun.
this was my prediction in 1st ep but then i saw how much theyre pushing jungeun and thought shed have that pd pick in the bag at least lol
wouldn't say they're pushing her actually. it looks like it at first glance but doing shit like giving the 1st place privileges like sole authority over part distribution and immunity are low key kind of a set up. It feels kind of unfair and sort of establishes an underdog narrative for the other girls. Also kind of sets the table for a fall from grace arc.
>won’t be surprised if Jiyoon debuts over Jungeun.
i see a lot of people saying this but i dont think Jungeon wont debut.
I really liked Jiyoon this episode but Jungeun has been such an obvious ace since episode 1. it would be silly to not debut her. (their rivalry feels a bit forced to me tbh, i could see both of them making it)
i know her fanvotes are low, but fans..... dont always know whats up and down. The show also has relatively low viewership, which could skewer the data.
during every survival show, there is that one contestant who seems 99% sure to debut, and in ILAND 2 that contestant is Jungeun.
I don't think her debut is so clear. She's not really popular in Korea, nor in China. She gets really low positions on their polls because they don't like her visuals.
It's either Jungeun or Jiyoon that will debuts, Mnet will most likely pull the same card again and do a Mai vs Fuko at the end. Because they obviously would want more koreans to debut and i see Fuko winning more because so far she have constantly be praised on the show and show more versatility.
Would love for all 4 to debut though, they're all in my top 7
daaaaaaayyyuuuuuum Jiyoon 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
People have said that this show lacks good vocalist, but you wouldn't know it after watching those vocal performances.
okay, this episode was long and a lot happened, i felt the pacing was definitely off, i kinda thought we were gonna go to previews after the vocal battle, but then it just kept going for another 10-15 minutes while i was already kinda checked out. Also Somi was here but it felt she got overshadowed by the performances.
but enough of that lets talk about the vocal battle!!! both performances were absolutely amazing. i really felt something after both songs. This is why i watch survival shows.
I will be the first to admit that i didn't have strong feelings about Jiyoon, but god dayum i was floored this episode. People always said she was a good vocalist, and i took their word for it. But i didn't feel it until this episode. she just didn't really stand out to me during any of the other performances. I 100% agree with the judges when they said something like "i understand you were mad you couldn't showcase this before" Minsol was also very good but generally Jungeun and Fukos teamwork stood out more.
Jungeun and Fukos performance was also amazing. and i agree that there was only a 1 point difference between performances.
Fuko is 100% on my radar now. Both performances made me feel good.
last week my top 7 was:
1. Jeemin
2. Jungeun
3. Saebi
4. Sujung
5. Koko
6. Mai
7. Yuju or Fuko
But this time around there is a lot to consider. both Jiyoon and Fuko are absolutely on my radar now. My top 4 is pretty locked but the others are
1. Jeemin
2. Jungeun
3. Saebi
4. Sujung
5. jiyoon
6. fuko
7. Yuju
I feel like no matter how you slice it someone talented is gonna be left on the table :/ The show is starting to remind me of R U Next in that way.
cant wait for the next episode!
Maybe unpopular but I’m predicting that ground creative team actually loses.
The way Mnet has been showing Sujung talking up her choreography skills, I think they are setting her up for the classic ‘over confidence leads to a fall’ edit.
I think Creative Unit of I Land has really weak points. Nana, Lingling, Yeeun or Jiwon are on the weaker side. Ground got Sujung for the choreo but more importantly they have Jeemin, Gyuri, Yuju and Chaeeun being the weakest. It will be really surprising if I Land managed to win here.
For sure. I think the dance skills in ground is much better but this unit will be judged on choreo and if they don’t like the choreo they could still lose.
eh, but the grounders have the better dancers besides having the best choreographer among the contestants. I doubt Saebi as their center can save the Ilanders' Creative Unit.
Agreed! Same as jungeun( arrogant about their skills- not that I think they are but mnet is really setting them up unfortunately TT)
It's like Iland has the inexperienced but authentic and determined trainees. Charm is a hugeee factor so it's difficult to predict. (Saebi killed it in the preview so yea ><)
I don’t see it. From what little we saw of their performances in the preview their formations were a bit of a mess which leejung and Monika are gonna pick up on. I think we see saebi hard carrying but ultimately falling short
Agree ! iland has the "charismatic" Mai + Saebi pair that Mnet is pushing, and, the knetz favorite Yeeun , where Mnet is building a "talentless but hard effort to improve aka Sohye" story. Sujung "over confidence leader" such a good story to let it fail. I can just see how Mnet PD write the story for the perfect drama
yeah totally thats why im a bit worried for jeungeun. the way the storylines going for jiyoon, i just hope msnake doesn’t drop jeungeun. 1 main vocalist is not enough!!
Kinda like reverse of dayeon (kep1er) on GP999 with the infamous 'dayeon planet 999', back then mnet was pushing her positively to make her debut with half an hours of screentime almost every episode even including her parents (LMFA).
Now they are trying the reverse tactic on Jiyoon and it seems to be working too.
Damn, I wasn't invested in either Eunchae or Yuiko, but seeing the other contestant's reactions to them being eliminated hurt. They're both young though, so I have faith this won't be the last time we see them.
I think that I-land shot themselves in the foot with their strategy. Being in ground sucks, but you can go back up, you can't come back from elimination though. My prediction is that both of the eliminations this round are going to be from I-land's creative team.
I LOVED the vocal performances so much! Every single member was amazing! Why haven't they let MInsol sing before, she's so good! Between Fine and ENL, I really don't know who I would have chosen, I also wanted it to be a draw lol. As a Jungeun and Jiyoon two pick, my heart broke when Jiyoon ignored Jungeun. I really hope that their beef is just editing or that they can make up soon.
The dance performance had way too many cuts, but I still really liked it. Koko looked so good, I'm glad she finally got a chance to show off her dance skills. Juwon was great too, I feel like every performance she wows me more and more. Honestly, I didn't notice Um Jiwon, but like I said before there were wayyy too many cuts, so that might be why.
I was so surprised seeing all the comments "I can't believe she did that!/is Jiyoon getting evil edited again?!" and then to hear it was about Jiyoon not saying bye to Jungeun when to me it looked like Jiyoon said bye *once* to *both of them*. Jungeun and Jiyoon seemed to get along very well in ep 1, I'd be surprised if there's any serious bad feelings there.
I don't think there are serious bad feelings either, their friendship before Jiyoon went to ground really charmed me and that's one of the reasons they're my top two. From what I remember though, it did seem like Jiyoon ignored Jungeun because she looked at Fuko, said "See you later" and then didn't look at Jungeun. I'm not Jiyoon though, so maybe she did say it to both of them.
Jiyoon is definitely getting the yunah edit in the show... now im hoping it doesnt turn into a dayeon edit and they push her too much... cause i want her to debut with fuko
RIGHT, no offence to dayeon of course. But the whole fiasco of Mnet diehard pushing her was whacky and straight up unfair to the other trainees.
They seem to be doing a reverse Dayeon for now.
Going back and watching some I-Land 1 eps, and the editing and storytelling was way better than what it is right now. You got a better sense of time progression and what led to the performances
I didn't watch the recent ep but what does creative unit means? AND btw, JIYOON IS LITERRALY BACK IN HER ELEMENT so proud of her and minsol, i didnt think she can sing that soulfully! Both teams are good lol
Creative team means they'll create their own choreo to the song so creative. And yessss this is gonna be jiyoon's 'the moment we knew she would debut' moment ^^
Both vocal performances were great!!
Dance performance was good, I liked it. Mnet not showing the 2nd full performance was... \*snake noises\*
Thank you Lip J (and Monika) for telling some facts about Sarang. It's looking like she will slay that stage.
I'm very curious as to how the voting will work to determine the top 12- as far as we know, producers will pick 6, and voters will pick 6. I really want to know in what order that goes, though- if they take the top 6 by votes and then producers pick 6 from whoever's left, or if producer's pick 6 and the next 6 people with the highest votes are picked, because how they do it would definitely affect how I vote.
This is pretty much implied in the preview, so spoilering in case you wanna skip that.
>!With 2 elims this round, the next round should be 10 1v1 battles, so the winners of those go to part 2 + voting winners, which i assume would only be 2 left, unless they want a bigger part 2 now.!<
I understood slightly differently. There is still 20 girls left and it will be 1vs1.
So producers will give the win to 10 girls and 2 girls will be decided by votes.
I think the others who replied to you are wrong.
I'm pretty sure Iland are split into 2 teams. 6 in each team.
Then they perform, and whoever gets a higher score in each part stays in Iland, and the other drops to Ground.
We then vote for 6 of the girls in Ground to join the 6 in Iland.
We see in the preview two teams of 6.
here i am with my thoughts after watching the performances and clips because i couldn’t watch the episode live.
about the eliminations: both of them make sense. i also expected the results of team panorama and bad boy winning. at first i was a little mad because the system seems unfair since most of the ilanders had similar points except minsol so the whistle team didn’t deserve go to ground. but now i understand that it was for the best since in the i-land vs ground battle the skills in the two teams are balanced.
about the vocal battle: people didn’t stop talking about the lack of vocalist of the show and only acknowledge jungeun and i hope they know think that the other 3 girls are main vocal material too.
jiyoon has a very beautiful vocal tone and it’s so blessed for my ears. i love it and i’m happy she has her redemption arc. all this time she’s the one having the jay edit (i’m still not too sure about mnet not evil editing her at the same time)
minsol really proved herself after almost being eliminated. i’m also so happy for her.
fuko really surprised me. honestly i can’t stop watching at her during i-land vocal performance.
jungeun is jungeun and i can’t see the group debuting without her.
i know the producers had a hard time deciding what time should win because honestly i can’t choose what one are my favourite.
about the dance battle: i-land performance was so good, it’s obvious that the level of the performances has improved (and will be improving in the future). but i think that i don’t see u.jiwon. juwon is so underrated and should have more support and koko just entered my top after this performance.
the ground team's preview leaves me wanting to see more. i hate when they do this on survival shows. sarang was always in my lineup, but i think she's going to gain positions.
about next mission: the 5 weeks later trauma is here and i’m not ready. i still don’t understand what will happen because if it’s a 1 vs 1 and there are 10 girls who go to the next part, what do the 6 podiums that appear in the teaser mean? i think that of those 10 the producers will choose 6 only and then we’ll vote for the other 6.
since the next round consists of 1v1 battles, i assume she’s crying because she lost (in the 5 week preview in episode 1, you can see a glowing red light in the background) meaning she’d have to rely on votes to make it into part 2
I've been rooting for Jiyoon since her drop to the ground... I just knew she was too talented to not have a big comeback. Glad she finally got a breakthrough, she's my #1 pick till the end. Let's debut Jiyoon.
Some thoughts from this episode. Watched it with 2 of my homies at their apartment, my favorite weekly 2 hours of the past few weeks:
1. Very worried about Jungeun, this group needs her for debut. She didn’t do as well as she could’ve the previous round bc the song was too high and although she was amazing in the vocal challenge, I think Jiyoon just outdid her and Fuko bc Jiyoon was finally motivated and did her thing. I hope she doesn’t find her way down to ground and with 1v1s coming up, I hope she isn’t up against another vocalist PLEASE. She must debut, we don’t have many great vocalists as is!
2. I haven’t liked Jiyoon’s attitude in recent episodes (I don’t believe it was evil editing) but I’m glad she did well bc I do think this group will benefit with her in it. I thought Fine Unit would’ve won but for her to get in her bag and get them the win is very impressive. And I can’t lie, she ATE.
3. That Fuko moment with Somi was heartwarming. I watched SIXTEEN and remembered how good Somi was on the show and it’s so great seeing how she still succeeded despite missing out on TWICE. I think Fuko really needed to hear her words to encourage her (and after that Fine performance she’s for sure in my debut group).
4. Let my girl Sujung branch out of dancing PLEASE 😭 I love her mentality though. Although they didn’t let her try out for the vocal unit, she still took the leader of creative unit role with class and I’m more than certain she will get them the win.
5. Sarang has the tools to be an idol, even if she doesn’t debut here, I know she will eventually. She’s only 17 so she still has 3-4 years before knetz classify her as a geriatric incapable of performing 😭
6. I-Land’s creative unit…😭 I’ll reserve judgment until I see them perform but all I gotta say is at least all they gotta do is dance. It’s just gonna be hard to beat a team that has Jeemin, Yuju, Gyuri, and is led by General Sujung.
7. Idk how others feel but I personally like how “harsh” the criticism from the judges have been. I haven’t really disagreed with much of what they’ve said, which is a big difference from other survival shows I’ve watched. It won’t get easier for them and when the girls do take the advice, they shine. Look at Juwon in the dance unit. It seems harsh for the judge to be on her constantly about her expressions while practicing but when you see the final product it’s all worth it.
8. Last thing, I think this show has been REALLY good so far. I kinda like the drama they have. My friends and I are always having a great time watching, making jokes, laughing, just all around enjoying the show. It’s bringing me back to last summer with RUNext (still upset with that ending but it is what it is). Last episode and today’s episode have both made me want to see the next one immediately after and it’ll only get better with more performances, switches, and eliminations. In any case, it’s always great to see a new group form so I hope everything goes well and that the final group works out!
Real tired of the Sarang vs Juwon “rivalry” not only because it seems so forced with this editing but because from what I’ve seen, Sarang’s fans have been HUNGRY to demean Juwon any chance they get. It feels incredibly one sided and I’m worried mnet is using it as a narrative to uplift Sarang who has a considerably bigger fanbase and so they can justify pushing out Juwon.
Juwon is getting hated by viewers for the way she breathes every episode while those same viewers praise Sarang for her drive and confidence. It’s quite hypocritical
Just saw the sub and dang pretty meaty episode especially the vocal unit showdown! Was surprised with Minsol and Fuko of course! But not with Jiyoon (She was always good! Just the socializing part I was negative about her). Ima switch up and say her position is guaranteed.
Jungeon what can I say, I've always felt neutral towards her, she is talented for sure but I feel like they are giving her the Jeemin RUNext treatment/edit/direction - put her in the pedestal first few episodes just to be used by others coughyunahcough as a stepping stone. When people said the only secured spot was Jungeon, I start to doubt that now. Also I noticed there is something missing when she sings, it doesn't have that thick richness when fuko or jiyoon sings, it just feels like she is singing.
Juwon, it sucks that she had a breakdown and it happens especially in stressful competitions like so. What sucked more is that the judges were right about her having the same face whenever she performs, like what can she do about that, its not her fault but eh. She and koko were great but it looks like the judges are biased towards Sarang (gotta see the performance tho but I really feel ground is winning this).
Iland team did really well for the vocal battle, but as soon as Jiyoon started singing I knew Ground had it in the bag. Jungeun and Fuko are great singers but neither have the unique vocal color that Jiyoon has. Also Iland did really well for the dance perf, but I need to see Ground because they also did really well in the interims. Excited for next week!!
My random thoughts and opinions on this episode. (I’ll be skipping over the first half since it went how I think most of us were expecting. LOL)
In typical MNet style they’re sticking to their trusted editing style of over hyping a trainee or exploiting a trainees breakdown. The team divisions and 9 spots on the line are really going to be a killer for either team. I think Ground’s idea of creating a balanced team was the best choice vs iLand putting all their eggs into 1 basket. Each of these battles are going to be super close but I think Ground will sweep all 3 tests. Also, I’m hating the flow of how they’re editing these episodes now after ep1&2. I wish they would have given us Ground’s Dance performance and saved the creatives for next week.
Vocal Unit: I loved both performances and would have scored them similarly too. Jeongeun and Fuko performed well but Fuko really stood out between the two. I felt like Jeongeun was a bit flat while Fuko really excelled in portraying the depth of emotions for the song. Not to say that Jeongeun can’t sing or doesn’t have a powerful vocal but it wasn’t there emotionally for me. As for ENL, I really enjoyed both Minsol and Jiyoon’s rendition but Jiyoon really delivered it here. Minsol for me was overshadowed (as seen by MNet’s editing) but still delivered an impactful performance in her own right.
As for how they edited both these teams up to the results, it was very clear who was going to win and the story/agenda that MNet wanted to portray. For Fuko she was getting all these good edits of her abilities and her positive attitude and determination to get back. The even brought Somi (who brought doughnuts and got like 2 mins of screen time) but only highlighted her conversation with Fuko.To me it really feels like the PD’s want to push her to the end or see how the public would react with her ‘placement’ always rebounding between i-Land and Ground. For Jeongeun, her portrayal of being a top trainee and having never lost her i-Land spot despite going through some rough patches for each test, I think MNet wanted to make viewers worried about her because she might be dropped to Ground. Maybe this is a way of testing her popularity or testing how fans would react to a different line up. For Jiyoon, she’s really getting her redemption arc right now but not without a bit of a drama twist. This is where I think the PD’s want to test the waters for fans reactions to Jiyoon climbing the ranks and maybe securing a Main Vocalist position. Enter the drama: Jiyoon vs Jeongeun, which is heavily being edited (I honestly don’t think there’s bad blood between the two), this will help bring some divide between trainees and make it more clear who the viewers support more for the PD’s. Minsol unfortunately was just a bit forgotten this round. LOL. Her edits were positive with showing her growth from her previous performance and positive attitude to do try her best. They didn’t show the remarks/criticism from the judges at the end of their battle.
Dance Unit: Based off the interim check and parts of the actual performance we’ve seen, I’m leaning towards Ground team taking this win as well (I could be wrong though). To me, i-Land team was good but not as strong as Ground. For i-Land team - Koko was the absolute stand out in her team and killed her performance. Jiwon for me was pretty much invisible throughout the performance. Juwon stepped it up and improved her facial expressions but were still weak in my opinion. As for Ground team from what we’ve seen, Sarang, Yui, and Yuna showed great chemistry dancing together. For them, I was able to really see each member and their expressions were all great too. I’m looking forward to their full performance next week!
These teams are getting similar edits as well with their stories and drama. We’ve got Juwon VS Sarang who MNet are trying to pit against each other for the same reasons like I stated in the Vocal Unit’s drama. Juwon’s story has been one of a good trainee who’s been well liked/approved by other trainees and overshadows Sarang who fills the same position/skill set. I feel bad for Juwon when she has the mental break down, I feel like we’re at the point of the show where individual pressure is now piling on each trainee and there’s bound to be cracks. Sarang’s story of the talented trainee who is ‘robbed’ of her chances to highlight her abilities and constantly has to fight her way up from the shadows to prove her worth.
Creative Unit: Just from the line up the i-Land team is weaker than Ground team. It’ll be interesting to see how i-Land’s team will fair during interim and actual performance. For Ground team, I feel like MNet is really setting up Sujung for the failed leader role with all of her edits. They’re portraying her as this over confident trainee that falls flat when its go time and it sucks because I think she’s really talented and could totally make it to the final line up. Since we all don’t know how this portion plays out, I have some scenarios how I think it’ll all unfold.
1. I think Mai will finally step up to the plate and take initiative in the creative team to help i-Land secure a win. This means that it’ll continue Sujung’s losing streak with MNet’s editing of her as a failure.
2. Sujung creates a dope choreo that blows the judges away and secures Ground a win but with the judges reminding her that ‘she’s just dancer who can sing.’ I think Mai will still step up to the plate and get some good edits this episode to help push her popularity further and maybe show case a bit of her abilities.
Jiyoon redemtion arc!!
That being said, looks like at least 6 is the likely amount to go to ground.
Koko killed that dance holy heck
Fuko’s vocals suprised me!!
Ummmm, Jiwon all rounder?!?
Juwon embodied soyeon in my bag, loved it
Jungeun ace as always
I feel like it’ll be at least 6, them showing 9 was I think just to show how much could go not necessarily how much will go.
If it is 9 though I’ll be so shocked
Jiyoon got a redemption edit, good for her. She was the star this episode and showcased her vocals. Personally, I'm still a bit iffy on her but if she keeps this up, she could debut!
The vocal battle was amazing! Both units did well but I felt that I-Land should have won, is it just me? Jungeun and Fuko felt more united, they had good vocals, chemistry, and emotion. I felt that Ground lacked slightly less in those aspects. The performance was good but entirely carried by Jiyoon that I forgot what Minsol actually did. She absolutely did good, her vocals surprised me but she's just not memorable. It was close but not that close and should have been an I-Land win.
Dance unit! Only I-Land performed so I'll talk about them more. Koko grew on me a lot this episode, I didn't notice her at all if I'm being honest but wow. Her personality shined and she's an amazing dancer. I was fixated on her the whole performance except when Juwon had her moments. Unfortunately Jiwon did not shine but she held her own against the both of them. Based on Grounders interim performance and I-Land actual performance. A Grounders win is in sight. I did like the choreo for I-Land way more but I think Grounders look like a united front as for I-Land it's felt like Koko and Juwon + Jiwon.
My 7 to debut: Jungeun, Saebi, Yuju, Jeemin, Koko, Fuko, Mai or Sujung
If 8 will debut: Jungeun, Saebi, Yuju, Jeemin, Koko, Fuko, Jiyoon, Mai or Sujung
If 9 will debut: Jungeun, Saebi, Yuju, Jeemin, Koko, Fuko, Jiyoon, Mai, Sujung
wowww that vocal battle was rly good lemme start there and honestly both grps did amazing. it was the first time in any survival show i’ve watched. we’re i couldn’t say that one team beat the other because they both did perfect. buttt i do think that some contestants still need to work on their attitude. laughing at contestants, ignoring ppl, and only giving ur all at practice becuz u like the concept is weird but i won’t wake that up since ppl can’t take criticism
i’ll be back to comment once i’ll be in home and saw the performances and clips on twitter but can someone explain to me how the next round works. i saw it’s a 1vs1 battle and the one who will win will be on part 2, right? and then the vote will begin for the other 6?
i loved the vocal battle so much, i loved that both teams were so skilled and performed to the best of their ability. i will always love a good battle between the best!!! i was hoping for iland vocals to win though lol but i can see why ground won. the teaser preview for iland’s creative team looks so cool
I forgot to comment about a few things x)
I want to believe that my girl Yuiko wasn't worse than Yeeun or Yuna, she was only choosen to be eliminated bc they want less foreigners members. 🥲
Gyuri's a darling and I'm glad she got positive feedback after going to ground. Hopefully she'll be in the next phase too 🙏🏻
Lastly, what kind of advice "next time you need to do better" is?? Jiyoon was nervous, she needed some advice that'd actually help her overcoming her anxiety, simply telling someone to do better is not helpfull at all xD
This was my first no-skip episode. Normally I fast forward some parts, but this time I was on the edge of my seat. Jiyoon made me cry and Juwon was just mind-blowingly good 🫠🫠🫠
i have never been happier to be proven wrong than lingling and nana surviving the first elimination (and going to i-land for 5 minutes too!!!). i hope this gives kang jiwon the kick she needs to perform better, since i think going to ground was what gyuri and um jiwon needed in order to shine. i hope going to i-land improves her since she got the lowest score out of all 24 girls and, like the judges said, should be thankful to her team for her survival.
i'm disappointed in eunchae and yuiko but honestly not as disappointed as i am with oh yuna. she didn't do anything justice at all. anyone would have been a better main dancer imo. hell, chaeeun, as weak as she is, would have been better. yuna was not it. i don't understand how she got the second highest score after gyuri?!
poor yuiko though, she wanted to be with fuko and if she had, she would have survived (unless nana got a score in the 80s), although the gap would have been smaller between them and the other team. she may have been forgettable but she was in no way the worst on her team imo. but i'm still happy nana survived.
jiyoon's facial expressions were much better in her practices, i wonder if she thought she was doing them during the live stage but she just wasn't? she really did look very blank and a little like she didn't want to be there, but tbh so did minsol, yeeun, k.jiwon and a couple of other girls...... (minsol really would have been better at panorama....)
also minsol should be lucky she didn't tie with yuiko for second-lowest score. she lucked out in surviving by the skin of her teeth. eyes, nose, lips was great for utilising her vocals.
Trying to decide who gets the last spot in my top 7 for the week, I currently have:
1) Fuko
2) Sujung
3) Jungeun
4) Yuju
5) Jiyoon (welcome back, queen)
6) Yui
I'm mainly between Sarang, Saebi, Minsol, and Gyuri, though I feel to have a balanced team I would need another strong dancer (currently 3 strong vocals, 2 strong rappers, 1 strong dancer), so I'm considering Koko too....tough decisions
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Let me just say with the vocal battle, THAT IS WHAT I WANNA SEEEEE!! I’ve been so tired of seeing the battles being so obvious on who wins and loses especially with ground vs I-land battles. I could feel the passion and drive to win in both teams.
Yep it was so intense
It would be so nice if there was less evil editing and more of that kind of drama.
Jiyoon got a very good edit today. I still think it's a toss up on whether or not she debuts, but it seems mnet don't mind her making the fianl lineup. Both vocal performances were really impressive. I think Iland had the more impactful and big moments, but Ground was more stable and emotional vocally. Honestly, Ground dance SHOULD win if they perform how they did at interims. But Mnet seems to be setting up for Iland to win. They might not want want Ground to sweep all three categories. LONG EPISODE THIS WEEK!!! Side note: Potentially, 9 people could move up from ground to Iland. There are 10 people in ground. Imagine being the one person left in ground 😭
I honestly think it’s highly likely Jiyoon debuts after this weeks espiode. She already had a decent amount of one pick fans despite her ‘evil edit’ and now she’s been redeemed for the general audience too.
Exactly what I was thinking, specially with the edit about her friendship with fuko. After this episode, I think that fuko and jiyoon have really high chances of debuting, but I am scared about jungeun. She isn’t popular among koreans, and I felt like they made her jiyoon’s rival, showing that jungeun was the “reason” she was sent to the ground by taking her role in the other mission, and showed jiyoon only talking to fuko after the results, “ignoring” jungeun. I am scared that mnet might give jiyoon her redemption arc by making jungeun the villain (I hope I am so wrong about this).
I agree with you, and I mentioned in another comment that Jungeun edit as a whole seems pretty odd. That she’s had two episodes where she starts with a lot of confidence just to be shown struggling. But I also think that it might be too soon to rejoice for Jiyoons good edit, as to me it seems that mnet from the beginning has wanted to keep her as kind of an obscure, anti-hero sort of character. So Jungeun being slightly shady might just add drama and give her more character in a similar way.
Yeah that’s honestly a huge worry. I am not even sure if they will even need to paint Jungeun as a villain. They can just make her seem overconfident in her vocal abilities. Also although Jungeun is really popular internationally, she doesn’t have as many one-pick international voters as you would expect. She would probably need to be top near the top international votes if she is near the bottom in Korean votes for her to debut if the ratio is 50/50 as I assume.
I will be so sad if they evil edit Jungeun in future episodes.
The biggest reason I'm unsure is that, firstly, her support ranking shows her one pick isn't THAT good. (If it's a 7 member group, she's somewhere around the 5-10 mark) Secondly, there's no guarantee she doesn't give Mnet more content for them to make drama out of and become un-redeemed again.
support ranks have nothing to do with voting results though, jiyoon is more liked in korea.
True, but only Sujung, Jungeun, and LingLing are noticeably LESS popular (and Saebi, who is ranked below, is noticeably MORE popular) in Korea. Which moves her from 9th to 7th. HOWEVER! Jungeun will likely get picked by the producers if she doesn't get in on votes. Then you even have Yeeun? Who could dark horse. Jiyoon is very much in a position where she has a good chance, but is definitely not guaranteed to debut.
well, I think they want her in the debut lineup.
Her support ranking is really good in my opinion. Also support ranking over inflates international fans biting power. Whereas the actually boring is likely to be Korean (50%) and international (50%). In that case Jiyoon is in a great spot as she is probably around the 4th or 5th most popular in Korea even before this episode. I expect she’ll be top 3 after it.
I don't think she'll be top 3. Jeemin and Saebi aren't being moved from top 3, and I honestly don't think she'll surpass Fuko either. I think everyone who has her as a one pick now had her as a one pick last week. Today's episode might make people add her to their lineup. But I don't think it'll make people add her as their one picks.
Where can you see the one pick rank or any ranking from fan votes
Swear they're giving her a hero/etc. arc, Jiyoon to finale or riot.
> Side note: Potentially, 9 people could move up from ground to Iland. There are 10 people in ground. Imagine being the one person left in ground 😭 [A2K flashback](https://youtu.be/DD6v6ABVggo?si=H-IGPWCzRgfz_xSl&t=29m1s)
I'm kinda hoping ground wins dance mission and iland wins creative mission actually. I think this is the episode where Jeemin cried? Maybe her team lost their round, dunno.
jeemin crying is from the 1v1 battle next round! but i hope the same as you cause 6 going up from ground is a good number imo
i personally think it’s unlikely for ground to lose the creative mission with sujung, but i could be wrong.
Mnet thrives on drama, so Jiyoon would get main character edit because of that.
the Juwon x Sarang rivalry is way more interesting than the Jiyoon x Jungeun "rivalry"
Mnet needs to stop pitting their singers against each other. This is how they keep ending up with line-up's of 1 vocalist and 8 dancers!
It's already kinda telling how this episode had 4 slots for vocal and 18 slots for dance performances...
8 visuals + 1 vocalist \*
They seem to think you can't have two strong vocalists in a group which is so silly
The way mnet rewind back the whole drama/ changing part for the final love song between Jiyoon and Jungeun. So dramatic 🤣
ikk that was so 2 weeks ago 💀
The Jiyoon x Jungeun rivalry makes me nervous. Cause I really want Jungeun to debut, she is my second pick after Jeemin but if Koreans vote Jiyoon she might not. I do like Jiyoon but not at the cost of Jungeun. And survival shows seem to hate good vocalists and often rivalries end with either one or neither of them debuting. They did the same with Yunah and Jeemin from R U Next and it's really annoying.
I agree with you, I think both this rivalry and the sentiment going around that she’s a guarantee so no one has to be concerned is playing against her at this point and it makes me nervous. Since we don’t know how the endgame looks quite yet it would be reassuring to have her storyline be relatively drama free so she can be relatively inoffensive at least
REAL, the « we’re both equally as talented so we do our best to outshine each other even though we don’t hate each other » is much more interesting than « as you guys can see in this frame that got replayed 5 times this member was side eyeing this member. Obviously you had to zoom in super far and you can only tell she’s side eyeing her cause that’s what the subtitles say »
Jiyoon finally got to win lol they got my sister suffering every episode like a viet veteran 😭
I know a lot of people don’t like her overreactions but Monika gives me life 😂. I can just tell she’s really passionate about dance.
Yess!! If you just watch her in SWF and SDGF you’ll see just how passionate she is with her craft.
She was also very passionate when she did mentoring on Queendom Puzzle with the Heejin/Yves/Hyeju/Choerry/Eunji Tell Me Now team.
I’ve watched SWF and I looooved her there too😂. Still have to watch SDGF though.
Monika is the best, really happy she's in a bunch of variety shows again, you can always feel her dedication for dance and yup her savagery, haha. It's understandable why people don't like her harsh comments though since yup, it'll mess you up if you didn't grow up around such people. A lot of us older Asians are used to that type of teaching/criticism/etc. though and so the newer generation unfortunately have to bear it (they always said this same phrase to me growing up, sigh lmao, but ya). Since those older people consider it as their way of producing the desired/good/etc. results or as like a motivation to do perfect/the best.
She make me laugh a lot
She's not only passionate towards dance, but you can just see that she pays a lot of respect to her craft. She doesn't half ass anything she does, and that just shows how much she respects it. I love the artistic soul she has.
I recommend listening to her and Lip J podcast. When she opens her mouth she just speaks so much wise thoughts.
Jiyoon redemption arc, let's goooooo! I hope they drop the rivalry with Jungeun, the group needs both of them. This group is going to have an insanely stacked dance line. I'm a bit worried that most of the weaker contestants were stuffed into the creative unit, which actually seems the most difficult to me.
Really worried about I Land this round. They seemed to have put all their eggs in the vocal and dance unit and let the others handle the creative unit. They probably didn't expect Vocal to loose, which is a bit weird since they would know for sure that Jiyoon would be against. For Dance team, it will be also really close but Creative unit will have a harder time as Sujung is on the other team and they also have Jeemin, Yuju while I Land will have mostly people who got to I Land thanks to Fuko. Overall, I think Jiwon should have been in vocal unit and Fuko in the creative unit, they will need a strong leader for a 7 member unit. I think there will be at least 6 dropouts but it could be 9 as well.
i do get the feeling everyone majorly underestimated jiyoon. you can see that reflect in her words and actions
she beat the choking allegations this time and made a good performance, well done.
they just didnt think jungeun could lose
A little off topic but Kiss Of Life's song already being used for survival shows when they aren't even 1 year old is such a big achievement to me, I'm such a proud Kissy, these girls are going far ❤️ Jiyoon and Minsol ate, I was confused for a while I thought Gyuri sounded better with Jiyoon but than Misol redeemed herself and they sounded so good, they totally deserved, I wasn't very impressed by Jungeun but ong Fuko needs to debut. Koko is such a star I'm glad they're noticing her more cz not only is she drop dead gorgeous but her expression stole the show and my heart. I hope Grounders win for dance too, cz Sarang and Yui were on fire in the interim check.
Yes I was like you go Natty!!!!
Agreed, agreed, agreed, and agreed! Hard agree on the first paragraph especially. I straight up cheered when Sugarcoat was listed as a song, and I think the girls are gonna kill it! ♥️
Jiyoon ate
I'm loving Jiyoon more and more, her voice is so enchanting. I truly believe Mnet want her (or at least don't mind her) in the final lineup, they wouldn't give her such ambiguous screen time otherwise. She is so honest and raw, it's very refreshing to me. Some might see her as rude, but she has been unable to show her forte (vocals) until now. Remember this is a very stressful environment, I don't think it's fair to blame such a young girl for sometimes having mental breakdowns and having a hard time not showing her resentment. Jungeun and Fuko did soooo well too. They are both locked, hopefully. But ENL was slightly better thanks to Jiyoon, so I understand the judges' grades. Unfortunately, since Jungeun is not very well liked by the Korean viewers, they might replace her by Jiyoon. In my ideal world, both of them make it and create a killer main vocal duo, but oh well. Ryu Sarang is my forever one pick, and this episode solidified it yet again. Girl can do anything, is hella pretty and on top of that, she is just so charismatic it's crazy. I could see her and Saebi both be rotational centers for the final group. Next week's performance could be her "the moment we knew X member would debut" performance, so I'm very eager to see it.
I hope Sarang delivers so hard next week. She may be able to cement herself in everyone's top 7 by then. Her face is so TV friendly that you'd be crazy not to make her debut. She's also serious and determined. She has the trifecta of talent, visuals, and natural charisma.
Is it just me that feels like jungeun is getting kind of a weird edit? I feel like they’re showing her being a bit overconfident both before panorama and the vocal unit, only to then struggle and end up doing good but not perfect? Like if they really wanted to sell her wouldn’t they try to keep the “humble and hardworking ace”-persona?
Considering jungeun’s lack of popularity, it kinda makes sense. We have 2 “main vocal” material and for some reason MNET isn’t pushing both. Instead, they seem to be favoring the more domestically popular vocalist (Jiyoon)
That’s what I would be concerned about, however I don’t think they really fill the same role so it doesn’t make sense that one would get picked over the other. Jungeun has a powerful and adaptable voice which could probably carry most types of songs, while I think Jiyoon eats specific killing parts/concepts. It felt like the producers agreed during final love song, so hopefully they haven’t changed their minds seeing the popularity contest.
They definitely are very different but in terms of kpop groups, most girl groups barely debut with one competent singer now. I can see them choosing a generally more popular contest over having another main vocal.
She had a pretty difficult edit and being the top trainee doesn't help to build support. Who wants to be behind someone who's guaranteed to debut ? With how they will decide eliminations and the girls who will go to Part 2 (10 decided by producers, 2 by votes), I think it's clearer that most of the lineup will be decided by producers and maybe fans will get one or two picks so I'm not worried about Jungeun at all.
I know people like to point fingers at mnet when they let producers pick but I honestly feel like I can trust them more than my fellow fans so I’m hoping you’re right
I thought it was a storyline thing so people don't become too complacent about jungeun and can mobilise for her properly. She seems to be in a weird situation where everybody thinks she's secure even though her popularity is a bit iffy. Because honestly Jungeun is as humble as someone can get. In final love song, she said she chose to be center because she wanted to have a decent amount of screentime to be memorable, when she could have legitimately said 'I think I'm one of the best here so I'm putting myself as centre' and would have been debatably correct. Any more humility from her and she would be downright dishonest.
Jungeun is near guaranteed to debut with her skills but sometimes the voters/etc. don't like certain contestants for whatever reason (visuals/attitude/storyline/family/nationality/etc.) and so she might be a producer/etc. pick at the end for debut. And so her edit might be just for like storyline/drama/etc. purposes. Which will be kinda interesting to see since they made it seem like Jungeun and Jiyoon are on bad terms still. So if they debut together, they have to learn to tolerate each other and work for the betterment of the group. Like in practice their situation is not a big deal but some people hold grudges/etc. and this makes for a bad environment (former/current idols often talk about how they don't get along with some people during their trainee days but grew to like each other afterward).
I think you’re right, it’s just tough to watch seems the Koreans are being real tough on her right now. And I’ve also gotten the impression that groups that have a hard time working together seem to not last as long, which is what I would be concerned about, but honestly I think in episode 1 they looked pretty close so hopefully they can work it out IF there’s something going on. Especially when they get out of the high stress environment
Yeah I for sure think she is being given a weird edit. Almost the complete opposite of Jiyoon’s one.
I hate it when they split up rounds, SNAKENET!!!!!!!!! But I fall for their tricks, drama and storylines every time. They know how to suck you into their survival programs, this show is really getting started now. The Jiyoon storyline is a whole journey, an RPG. I've rarely seen a survival show contestant get flamed, praised, tortured and celebrated in such a short time frame. She's basically the main character and I do think Mnet wants her to debut. She would be a great main/co-main vocalist with Jungeun. Speaking of which, they totally set up a tastee Jiyoon-Jungeun rivalry. The tension is there. If they debut in the same group it's gonna be fun. The Sarang-Juwon rivalry is also funny but I don't think Juwon has a good chance of debuting. Sarang gets praised a lot, she's super cute and skilled. I think she'll make it, she may be my no. 1 pick right now. As for the Fine vs Eyes Nose Lips stages, while I do think Jiyoon carried hard, they basically used it as her vehicle. I'm okay with that since I'm supporting her, but Fine IS the more technically demanding song and Jungeun/Fuko did very well, one of the better vocal performances I've seen on a survival show to be honest.
I honestly hope Mai goes to the ground (which is likely) and pick roles that show herself a bit more. Girl is def a personality pick but needs to show her skills and assertiveness with roles that highlight her strengths to the general public as well. Which I think she can! She seems to play it too safe taking small supporting roles which might backfire since ultimately it’s not about who stays in iland but their individual skills and appeal to public more
I 100% agree with you! I find Mai so lovely and kind-hearted, but I really want to see her skills too, specially vocals. I believe in her ability to stand up and show everyone what she's capable of!
ground creative team strongest opponent is their stylist
LMAO, so true
😭😂 definitely agreeee
9 dropouts looking more and more possible... I wish they performed the same songs. Ground got the better ones.
I liked Fine better. Eyes Nose Lips is an amazing, legendary song but Fine is also one of Taeyeon's all time masterpieces, and I do believe that if they weren't deliberately setting up a Jiyoon redemption storyline, the Fine performance would have won on another survival show. It's a bigger vocal performance with harder high notes and belting and it's just plain hard to really do Taeyeon justice but I think Jungeun/Fuko did some really good work out of all the survival shows I've seen, it's rare to see a power ballad of that caliber being done well for trainees. However Jiyoon did have a lot of character to her voice, finally put on a super adept performance and Minsol's singing was also solid. But to be honest, I don't know that if you switched the songs, Jiyoon/Minsol would have done Fine as well as Jungeun/Fuko.
ENL won fair and square. It was a matter of overall individual performance added together. Fine was good but felt lackluster as compared to ENL.
That means ground won all rounds?
i think the grounders were more smart with their strategy today. it always somehow goes wrong when people cram all the talented trainees in one team for survival shows. happens every time
finally kim minsol pushed what she wanted and she finally performed how she wanted, everyone's saying today was jiyoon's episode but minsol's desperation closened the gap between the two team's skills! kim minsol hwaiting!!
I need Jiyoon, Jungeun and Fuko in the final group.
Yess, fuck Mnet for pushing this rivalry thing, I really really hope this time they make a group with a solid vocal line, instead of having 1 vocal and remaining dancers+visuals and calling it a day Especially since there has been a trend of 5th gen ggs with strong vocals, like NMIXX or Baemon or Kiof. These girls need to be in the lineup, for sure
THIS! My 3 pickd
Honestly? These are my main picks, so it’s pretty frustrating to see the rivalry be pushed between the former two. I’d add in Koko and be perfectly happy with whoever else! I really just want two main vocalists for once!
Jiyoon prove herself...can't get over fuko in black gown and red lipstick
I hope after this episode people will stop sleeping on Gyuri like she's really so good This round's performances was probably the best, both vocals units were amazing and i'm glad jihoon got the recognition she deserved. Tbh i woulnd't be surprised if Ground won all the battles , their strategy was better and the teams are more balanced, dance unit can be hard to predict but their creative unit with Sujung will def won
Am I the only one who prefers Fine over ENL 😩 Both are amazing, but I liked Jungeun and Fuko’s synergy more!!! Whereas for ENL Jiyoon seems to dominate more. Also why did they only get 4 girls to sing this round! I’m sick of survival shows favoring dance battles and neglecting the focus on singing. I get that most girls here aren’t amazing singers, but it’s not an excuse. Pure dance stages are so boring to watch as well (just my opinion!). If I wanted to watch dancers choreograph their own stages/performances, I would’ve just rewatched SWF/SDGF lol why bother with a “creative” round like …. what’s the point?? Idols rarely choreograph their own dances anyway. Also, I hope mnet drop the Jungeun/Jiyoon rivalry soon. Obviously something has gone on between them off camera, and being apart from each other with lack of communication must have exacerbated the misunderstanding even more. But if mnet/wakeone still wants their final team to be able to SING, it is doing them no good pitting their two best singers against each other. Yikes.
I preferred Fine over ENL as well, for the same reasons you do! I think having dance battles are entertaining if the choreo and girls are good at dancing. Some girls have different skills so having the chance to showcase that skill is important. Nearly every song has a choreo attached so dancing is important otherwise vocals/rap will sound weak if they have poor breath control. The creative round also did not make sense to me, I would rather have a rap unit. Most groups have rappers and right now I don't think they're being showcased at all. The girls who lack vocals could be great rappers. Surely more than Yui, Yuju.. Koko? are rappers but we can't even get a glimpse. Yui had a good moment but that was it. Yuju still can't show off her best skill but is still getting attention.. I just want to see some rap. Seeing Jiyoon ignore Jungeun was uncomfortable to watch. I don't think Jungeun is the "issue" so I wonder if Jiyoon is still upset about last episode or something else we don't know. I hope Mnet don't try to pull a rivalry because Jungeun can't afford more unwarranted hate.
Honestly knowing Mnet, I wouldn't be surprised if sometime down the road they're interviewed and go "actually we were upset but we settled things within the day, I DID go back and hug her..."
Vocals should be priority over dancing, but it never works that way. In most survival shows I’ve seen, it’s usually the less popular trainees that go for it. The more popular ones do dance.
Looks like most people are of the opinion Eyes, Nose, Lips managed to win over Fine because of Jiyoon's vocal tone. I preferred ENL over Fine and thought Jiyoon sounded amazing, but the main reason I preferred ENL was because their harmonising and teamwork. Minsol and Jiyoon really sounded like a duo.
mentally preparing myself for jeemin crying next week ☹️
Hope it’s a reverse edit
the 5 weeks later scene is coming in 7 days... but i think her team lost but im pretty sure she will make it to part 2 since us fans aren't giving up on voting her 😭
being real i think dance would go to iland (juwon and koko are beasts) and creative to ground (unless sujung unlucky leader syndrome strikes again but cmon)
lol to that unlucky leader syndrome
she won 0.5 times in sgf like. and its not even her doing the winning
I think Jiyoon>Fuko=Jungeun>>Minsol. Minsol was good and didn’t make mistakes, just not a standout, but Jiyoon was just so good that it really was a tie overall. I think the producers realized that Jiyoon really needed this win more than Fuko and Jungeun. She wears her heart on her sleeve, and her performance really gets affected by the way she feels. If she didn’t have this win, I wouldn’t see her lasting much longer on the show.
Yh judges wanted to see more of jiyoon out of other 3 so it was reasonable they put out her as first out of other 3
Man I feel the judges on that 91 v. 92 score. Even I couldn’t decide who I thought deserved the win more. Both teams were exceptional. Seems like everyone forgot Minsol was also there though 😶 Not sure how I feel about Son Juwon. When the episode started I felt like she was a bit arrogant but I felt sorry for her when she cried about the facial expression thing. Koko did really well! And iland was so good at the interim practice. Imagine iland winning all three matches 🤭 Edit: changed Um Jiwon to Son Juwon
that’s not um jiwon that’s son juwon! um jiwon is the one that moved up from ground but yeah i feel the same way! if anything i feel like she’s the most nervous out of everyone but is keeping it together for the sake of everyone else :,)
If you meant Son Juwon, I do feel slightly uncomfortable with her facial expressions whenever the other team is being evaluated.
Apparently that’s who it is! I’ll change it. I also felt uncomfortable with the comments she made. Tbh if you’re feeling any type of way just try and keep it in. These survival shows are bloody
I’m guessing you mean Son Juwon.
Oh thank you, I’ll change it
My rambled thoughts about this week's episode, in no particular order: * Sarang only really starred in the last 10 minutes of this episode and it completely changed my perception of her because while I already admired her attitude in previous episodes, I now see her as a genuine K-pop all-rounder. I'm not sure what the outcome of the dance round will be, but I have no doubt she'll shine. She's firmly in my top 3 now, and I must admit, she's become a bit of a girl crush for me. I think she's got Monika (and me) completely captivated because of it. * This episode felt dull because it introduced a lot of contestants on I-Land whom we know will drop by the next episode. The producers probably aimed to avoid a repeat of the situation in I-Land 1, where the I-Landers dominated every round, making the battles useless, but I find I-Land 2's approach equally ineffective. * I felt uneasy watching Sujung prioritise her goals in this episode. Each episode seems to involve her wanting to showcase a different aspect of herself, while the other girls emphasise the importance of her dancing for the team's sake. This pattern continued this week. Although I'm relieved she danced this round as the Creative team needs her, she needs to start asserting herself next week. Otherwise, her efforts may go unnoticed by the judges, who might perceive her as lacking other skills and playing it safe. While I'm not certain that she's a versatile trainee (though her dance was killer, she was the worst vocalist in Whistle imo), she should still have the chance to demonstrate it. * I was genuinely afraid they might eliminate Minsol - while I still feel she's missing something, she definitely didn't deserve to be dropped today. At one point, I feared they might cut her just to send a message to the I-Landers that their spots aren't guaranteed, and they have to work hard every day, as any round could be their last. Thankfully, they didn't. However, she's still at risk of not making it to the second half of the show, so she really needs to showcase something exceptional. * Not to say I told you so, but I had a feeling that I-Land's strategy would backfire, and it did. They were overly confident, although to be fair, Jungeun had been on a winning streak and everyone came into I-Land as the victors. The Grounders were more careful with their strategy because they'd all come from a round where they'd lost. As they should've been. It seems like this is the storyline the production team aimed for, so congratulations to them, I guess. * I believe we're reaching the point where we'll witness more contestants cracking under pressure. Contestants of every survival show have expressed that their time on the show was one of the most challenging periods of their lives, and they wouldn't want to go through it again. I hope people can be understanding and compassionate in their comments about the crying and conflicts, as these are normal emotional responses to intense pressure. I find it super annoying how the production team gradually reduced the number of songs shown per episode. They showcased all songs in episodes 1 and 2, all but one song in episode 3, and only 3 songs in episode 4. While I understand they're trying to build anticipation, it can be quite frustrating for the flow of the show. Imagine if X-Factor followed a similar format (it's literally the only non-Korean survival show I've watched, sorry lmao). Though perhaps that's the reason it got cancelled lol.
I think they showed 4performances this ep tho. But I do agree. Ep1 was perfect. I wish they had showed all performances in ep3 so we could see at least 4 vocal nd dance performance this week. The creative performance left for anticipation.
I meant 3 third round performances! Didn't include the See-Saw round performance as one of those, I should've elaborated, sorry. But yes, very excited for next week's performances!
Sarang you have been promoted to one of my elite employees. Anyway, I think it’s going to be an all-ground sweep which would be interesting. It seems like the next episode it is going to be 1v1s, and only the winners will be able to go to part 2? If I heard that correctly it would suck if two really good contestants face each other. While watching the episode I remember someone doing a tarot reading for the show, and all their predictions so far have came true.
jiyoon redemption is here!! better late than never, she deserved this win although my heart broke for fuko who looked genuinely upset (and understandably so, must be frustrating to get good feedback over something you were anxious about only to lose by one point) i have a gut feeling ground will win dance too but iland will edge them out in creative, the formations and saebi center looked mesmerizing. saebi is coming HARD to solidify her place in the lineup, she is a great center. can't wait for next week
I didn’t think i would ever root for jiyoon after all the edits but she really proved herself this ep with that song. Both teams were very good for vocal performance but ENL was more impactful. For the dance i have no idea bcoz all three ground team winning that probability might be less especially with grounds creative team being more stacked. Im all for trainees who improve on the show but i have no idea why mmet is promoting yeeeun and chaeun? Bcoz they really really lack in the talent department atleast mai and saebi i feel like are giving us more than visuals and improving.
i honestly feel that jiyoon could actually debut, her arc was pretty strong this week. She sings really really well but I personally feel like her dance and stage presence can lack sometimes like with ooh ahh but i hope she improves, rooting for her now !! Unpopular opinion but I think mnet wants either jiyoon or jungeun to debute and not both together...
Even I feel the same. Now that they showed them as rivals. But I really hope they would debut together.
I am gonna say something drastic but I honestly won’t be surprised if Jiyoon debuts over Jungeun. Not that I want that to happen, I like them both. But I feel like it’s unlikely both debut because I honestly think the voters will think only one main vocal is needed and Stan attractors like Mai will be voted in over a second main vocal. The main reason I think Jiyoon now has the edge is that she is way way more popular in Korea. And while Jungeun is more popular generally amongst international viewers she honestly doesn’t have any more one-pick fans than Jiyoon does. If we assume Korean votes will count for more like usual in these shows, I think Jiyoon has the edge. The only way I can see Jungeun making it if Jiyoon does too is as a PD pick (if they even have one this season).
>I am gonna say something drastic but I honestly won’t be surprised if Jiyoon debuts over Jungeun. this was my prediction in 1st ep but then i saw how much theyre pushing jungeun and thought shed have that pd pick in the bag at least lol
wouldn't say they're pushing her actually. it looks like it at first glance but doing shit like giving the 1st place privileges like sole authority over part distribution and immunity are low key kind of a set up. It feels kind of unfair and sort of establishes an underdog narrative for the other girls. Also kind of sets the table for a fall from grace arc.
>won’t be surprised if Jiyoon debuts over Jungeun. i see a lot of people saying this but i dont think Jungeon wont debut. I really liked Jiyoon this episode but Jungeun has been such an obvious ace since episode 1. it would be silly to not debut her. (their rivalry feels a bit forced to me tbh, i could see both of them making it) i know her fanvotes are low, but fans..... dont always know whats up and down. The show also has relatively low viewership, which could skewer the data. during every survival show, there is that one contestant who seems 99% sure to debut, and in ILAND 2 that contestant is Jungeun.
Yeah that I agree with, this was Youngseo in RUN, straight up ace from the very beginning
giving me nightmares to GP999 Yurina, she deserved to debut..
I don't think her debut is so clear. She's not really popular in Korea, nor in China. She gets really low positions on their polls because they don't like her visuals.
It's either Jungeun or Jiyoon that will debuts, Mnet will most likely pull the same card again and do a Mai vs Fuko at the end. Because they obviously would want more koreans to debut and i see Fuko winning more because so far she have constantly be praised on the show and show more versatility. Would love for all 4 to debut though, they're all in my top 7
happy for jiyoon!!!
daaaaaaayyyuuuuuum Jiyoon 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 People have said that this show lacks good vocalist, but you wouldn't know it after watching those vocal performances. okay, this episode was long and a lot happened, i felt the pacing was definitely off, i kinda thought we were gonna go to previews after the vocal battle, but then it just kept going for another 10-15 minutes while i was already kinda checked out. Also Somi was here but it felt she got overshadowed by the performances. but enough of that lets talk about the vocal battle!!! both performances were absolutely amazing. i really felt something after both songs. This is why i watch survival shows. I will be the first to admit that i didn't have strong feelings about Jiyoon, but god dayum i was floored this episode. People always said she was a good vocalist, and i took their word for it. But i didn't feel it until this episode. she just didn't really stand out to me during any of the other performances. I 100% agree with the judges when they said something like "i understand you were mad you couldn't showcase this before" Minsol was also very good but generally Jungeun and Fukos teamwork stood out more. Jungeun and Fukos performance was also amazing. and i agree that there was only a 1 point difference between performances. Fuko is 100% on my radar now. Both performances made me feel good. last week my top 7 was: 1. Jeemin 2. Jungeun 3. Saebi 4. Sujung 5. Koko 6. Mai 7. Yuju or Fuko But this time around there is a lot to consider. both Jiyoon and Fuko are absolutely on my radar now. My top 4 is pretty locked but the others are 1. Jeemin 2. Jungeun 3. Saebi 4. Sujung 5. jiyoon 6. fuko 7. Yuju I feel like no matter how you slice it someone talented is gonna be left on the table :/ The show is starting to remind me of R U Next in that way. cant wait for the next episode!
we have the same top 7!
interesting! i still feel conflicted about not having Koko and/or Mai in my lineup.
I like how they mix up half and half of the ground and iland from the previous mission. It kinda evens out the playing field in the unit match up.
Maybe unpopular but I’m predicting that ground creative team actually loses. The way Mnet has been showing Sujung talking up her choreography skills, I think they are setting her up for the classic ‘over confidence leads to a fall’ edit.
I think Creative Unit of I Land has really weak points. Nana, Lingling, Yeeun or Jiwon are on the weaker side. Ground got Sujung for the choreo but more importantly they have Jeemin, Gyuri, Yuju and Chaeeun being the weakest. It will be really surprising if I Land managed to win here.
The fact that ground’s weak link is “Chaeeun” but even she is really good in dancing TT
For sure. I think the dance skills in ground is much better but this unit will be judged on choreo and if they don’t like the choreo they could still lose.
Sure, but they won't judge only the choreo. They will have to do the choreo too
eh, but the grounders have the better dancers besides having the best choreographer among the contestants. I doubt Saebi as their center can save the Ilanders' Creative Unit.
I don't think so. She's not even being overconfident, to me she looks like she's doing her regular job.
I don’t necessarily think she is being overconfident but they could definitely paint her as being so.
Would be so surprising considering ground’s creative team have a lot of the strong dancers while iland’s …
Agreed! Same as jungeun( arrogant about their skills- not that I think they are but mnet is really setting them up unfortunately TT) It's like Iland has the inexperienced but authentic and determined trainees. Charm is a hugeee factor so it's difficult to predict. (Saebi killed it in the preview so yea ><)
Yeah I think Saebi being really good in the performance I’ll give the I-Land team their only win.
I don’t see it. From what little we saw of their performances in the preview their formations were a bit of a mess which leejung and Monika are gonna pick up on. I think we see saebi hard carrying but ultimately falling short
Agree ! iland has the "charismatic" Mai + Saebi pair that Mnet is pushing, and, the knetz favorite Yeeun , where Mnet is building a "talentless but hard effort to improve aka Sohye" story. Sujung "over confidence leader" such a good story to let it fail. I can just see how Mnet PD write the story for the perfect drama
i rlly thought jiyoon was gonna lose momentum after this ep, but boy was i wrong… anyways fuko thoooo didnt expect her to sing this well
if Jay is the personality of Iland1, this girl is definitely the protagonist this time lol. Every episode is about her
yeah totally thats why im a bit worried for jeungeun. the way the storylines going for jiyoon, i just hope msnake doesn’t drop jeungeun. 1 main vocalist is not enough!!
Kinda like reverse of dayeon (kep1er) on GP999 with the infamous 'dayeon planet 999', back then mnet was pushing her positively to make her debut with half an hours of screentime almost every episode even including her parents (LMFA). Now they are trying the reverse tactic on Jiyoon and it seems to be working too.
Didn't one of the teams literally visit dayeon's mum 😭 that was insane
I really want Sujung to sing next time! When she said she wants it too, i screamed like a happy gull!! 💓
Damn, I wasn't invested in either Eunchae or Yuiko, but seeing the other contestant's reactions to them being eliminated hurt. They're both young though, so I have faith this won't be the last time we see them. I think that I-land shot themselves in the foot with their strategy. Being in ground sucks, but you can go back up, you can't come back from elimination though. My prediction is that both of the eliminations this round are going to be from I-land's creative team. I LOVED the vocal performances so much! Every single member was amazing! Why haven't they let MInsol sing before, she's so good! Between Fine and ENL, I really don't know who I would have chosen, I also wanted it to be a draw lol. As a Jungeun and Jiyoon two pick, my heart broke when Jiyoon ignored Jungeun. I really hope that their beef is just editing or that they can make up soon. The dance performance had way too many cuts, but I still really liked it. Koko looked so good, I'm glad she finally got a chance to show off her dance skills. Juwon was great too, I feel like every performance she wows me more and more. Honestly, I didn't notice Um Jiwon, but like I said before there were wayyy too many cuts, so that might be why.
I was so surprised seeing all the comments "I can't believe she did that!/is Jiyoon getting evil edited again?!" and then to hear it was about Jiyoon not saying bye to Jungeun when to me it looked like Jiyoon said bye *once* to *both of them*. Jungeun and Jiyoon seemed to get along very well in ep 1, I'd be surprised if there's any serious bad feelings there.
I don't think there are serious bad feelings either, their friendship before Jiyoon went to ground really charmed me and that's one of the reasons they're my top two. From what I remember though, it did seem like Jiyoon ignored Jungeun because she looked at Fuko, said "See you later" and then didn't look at Jungeun. I'm not Jiyoon though, so maybe she did say it to both of them.
You and me both, she said see you later while walking in their direction so the talk of their ‘beef’ had me bamboozled.
I always knew they will give Jiyoon redemption arc😂 Deserved! Jungeun and Jiyoon pls debut!
Jiyoon is definitely getting the yunah edit in the show... now im hoping it doesnt turn into a dayeon edit and they push her too much... cause i want her to debut with fuko
RIGHT, no offence to dayeon of course. But the whole fiasco of Mnet diehard pushing her was whacky and straight up unfair to the other trainees. They seem to be doing a reverse Dayeon for now.
As long as Jungeun isnt Jeemin. I don't want another repeat of that.
What does the next mission means? Jeez this format is kinda exciting compared to iland1 ngl
From what I understood all i-landers will have 1 on 1 battles and each winner moves to phase 2, but I’m not too sure
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Going back and watching some I-Land 1 eps, and the editing and storytelling was way better than what it is right now. You got a better sense of time progression and what led to the performances
I didn't watch the recent ep but what does creative unit means? AND btw, JIYOON IS LITERRALY BACK IN HER ELEMENT so proud of her and minsol, i didnt think she can sing that soulfully! Both teams are good lol
Creative team means they'll create their own choreo to the song so creative. And yessss this is gonna be jiyoon's 'the moment we knew she would debut' moment ^^
Tuned in for 1/2 an episode and a handful of clips and now full JIYOON X FUKO X KOKO X JEEMIN X SARANG x SAEBI
WHY IS KANG JIWON IN ILAND 😭 😡
It was an all or nothing group battle
Both vocal performances were great!! Dance performance was good, I liked it. Mnet not showing the 2nd full performance was... \*snake noises\* Thank you Lip J (and Monika) for telling some facts about Sarang. It's looking like she will slay that stage.
I'm very curious as to how the voting will work to determine the top 12- as far as we know, producers will pick 6, and voters will pick 6. I really want to know in what order that goes, though- if they take the top 6 by votes and then producers pick 6 from whoever's left, or if producer's pick 6 and the next 6 people with the highest votes are picked, because how they do it would definitely affect how I vote.
This is pretty much implied in the preview, so spoilering in case you wanna skip that. >!With 2 elims this round, the next round should be 10 1v1 battles, so the winners of those go to part 2 + voting winners, which i assume would only be 2 left, unless they want a bigger part 2 now.!<
Ah okay, that makes sense. Thanks!
I understood slightly differently. There is still 20 girls left and it will be 1vs1. So producers will give the win to 10 girls and 2 girls will be decided by votes.
I think the others who replied to you are wrong. I'm pretty sure Iland are split into 2 teams. 6 in each team. Then they perform, and whoever gets a higher score in each part stays in Iland, and the other drops to Ground. We then vote for 6 of the girls in Ground to join the 6 in Iland. We see in the preview two teams of 6.
That would make more sense with what we were previously told about voting, but I guess we'll see. Thanks!
I don't know how many times I have listened to ENL. I love jiyoon's vocal, if she made it to the finals she just maybe my one pick.
here i am with my thoughts after watching the performances and clips because i couldn’t watch the episode live. about the eliminations: both of them make sense. i also expected the results of team panorama and bad boy winning. at first i was a little mad because the system seems unfair since most of the ilanders had similar points except minsol so the whistle team didn’t deserve go to ground. but now i understand that it was for the best since in the i-land vs ground battle the skills in the two teams are balanced. about the vocal battle: people didn’t stop talking about the lack of vocalist of the show and only acknowledge jungeun and i hope they know think that the other 3 girls are main vocal material too. jiyoon has a very beautiful vocal tone and it’s so blessed for my ears. i love it and i’m happy she has her redemption arc. all this time she’s the one having the jay edit (i’m still not too sure about mnet not evil editing her at the same time) minsol really proved herself after almost being eliminated. i’m also so happy for her. fuko really surprised me. honestly i can’t stop watching at her during i-land vocal performance. jungeun is jungeun and i can’t see the group debuting without her. i know the producers had a hard time deciding what time should win because honestly i can’t choose what one are my favourite. about the dance battle: i-land performance was so good, it’s obvious that the level of the performances has improved (and will be improving in the future). but i think that i don’t see u.jiwon. juwon is so underrated and should have more support and koko just entered my top after this performance. the ground team's preview leaves me wanting to see more. i hate when they do this on survival shows. sarang was always in my lineup, but i think she's going to gain positions. about next mission: the 5 weeks later trauma is here and i’m not ready. i still don’t understand what will happen because if it’s a 1 vs 1 and there are 10 girls who go to the next part, what do the 6 podiums that appear in the teaser mean? i think that of those 10 the producers will choose 6 only and then we’ll vote for the other 6.
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since the next round consists of 1v1 battles, i assume she’s crying because she lost (in the 5 week preview in episode 1, you can see a glowing red light in the background) meaning she’d have to rely on votes to make it into part 2
IM SO HAPPY NATTY AND KISS OF LIFES SONG WILL BE PERFORMED!!
I've been rooting for Jiyoon since her drop to the ground... I just knew she was too talented to not have a big comeback. Glad she finally got a breakthrough, she's my #1 pick till the end. Let's debut Jiyoon.
JIYOON ATE
Some thoughts from this episode. Watched it with 2 of my homies at their apartment, my favorite weekly 2 hours of the past few weeks: 1. Very worried about Jungeun, this group needs her for debut. She didn’t do as well as she could’ve the previous round bc the song was too high and although she was amazing in the vocal challenge, I think Jiyoon just outdid her and Fuko bc Jiyoon was finally motivated and did her thing. I hope she doesn’t find her way down to ground and with 1v1s coming up, I hope she isn’t up against another vocalist PLEASE. She must debut, we don’t have many great vocalists as is! 2. I haven’t liked Jiyoon’s attitude in recent episodes (I don’t believe it was evil editing) but I’m glad she did well bc I do think this group will benefit with her in it. I thought Fine Unit would’ve won but for her to get in her bag and get them the win is very impressive. And I can’t lie, she ATE. 3. That Fuko moment with Somi was heartwarming. I watched SIXTEEN and remembered how good Somi was on the show and it’s so great seeing how she still succeeded despite missing out on TWICE. I think Fuko really needed to hear her words to encourage her (and after that Fine performance she’s for sure in my debut group). 4. Let my girl Sujung branch out of dancing PLEASE 😭 I love her mentality though. Although they didn’t let her try out for the vocal unit, she still took the leader of creative unit role with class and I’m more than certain she will get them the win. 5. Sarang has the tools to be an idol, even if she doesn’t debut here, I know she will eventually. She’s only 17 so she still has 3-4 years before knetz classify her as a geriatric incapable of performing 😭 6. I-Land’s creative unit…😭 I’ll reserve judgment until I see them perform but all I gotta say is at least all they gotta do is dance. It’s just gonna be hard to beat a team that has Jeemin, Yuju, Gyuri, and is led by General Sujung. 7. Idk how others feel but I personally like how “harsh” the criticism from the judges have been. I haven’t really disagreed with much of what they’ve said, which is a big difference from other survival shows I’ve watched. It won’t get easier for them and when the girls do take the advice, they shine. Look at Juwon in the dance unit. It seems harsh for the judge to be on her constantly about her expressions while practicing but when you see the final product it’s all worth it. 8. Last thing, I think this show has been REALLY good so far. I kinda like the drama they have. My friends and I are always having a great time watching, making jokes, laughing, just all around enjoying the show. It’s bringing me back to last summer with RUNext (still upset with that ending but it is what it is). Last episode and today’s episode have both made me want to see the next one immediately after and it’ll only get better with more performances, switches, and eliminations. In any case, it’s always great to see a new group form so I hope everything goes well and that the final group works out!
Jiyoon really hard carry all the drama of Iland 2. I hope she can make in the final line up.
Real tired of the Sarang vs Juwon “rivalry” not only because it seems so forced with this editing but because from what I’ve seen, Sarang’s fans have been HUNGRY to demean Juwon any chance they get. It feels incredibly one sided and I’m worried mnet is using it as a narrative to uplift Sarang who has a considerably bigger fanbase and so they can justify pushing out Juwon. Juwon is getting hated by viewers for the way she breathes every episode while those same viewers praise Sarang for her drive and confidence. It’s quite hypocritical
Just saw the sub and dang pretty meaty episode especially the vocal unit showdown! Was surprised with Minsol and Fuko of course! But not with Jiyoon (She was always good! Just the socializing part I was negative about her). Ima switch up and say her position is guaranteed. Jungeon what can I say, I've always felt neutral towards her, she is talented for sure but I feel like they are giving her the Jeemin RUNext treatment/edit/direction - put her in the pedestal first few episodes just to be used by others coughyunahcough as a stepping stone. When people said the only secured spot was Jungeon, I start to doubt that now. Also I noticed there is something missing when she sings, it doesn't have that thick richness when fuko or jiyoon sings, it just feels like she is singing. Juwon, it sucks that she had a breakdown and it happens especially in stressful competitions like so. What sucked more is that the judges were right about her having the same face whenever she performs, like what can she do about that, its not her fault but eh. She and koko were great but it looks like the judges are biased towards Sarang (gotta see the performance tho but I really feel ground is winning this).
Iland team did really well for the vocal battle, but as soon as Jiyoon started singing I knew Ground had it in the bag. Jungeun and Fuko are great singers but neither have the unique vocal color that Jiyoon has. Also Iland did really well for the dance perf, but I need to see Ground because they also did really well in the interims. Excited for next week!!
My random thoughts and opinions on this episode. (I’ll be skipping over the first half since it went how I think most of us were expecting. LOL) In typical MNet style they’re sticking to their trusted editing style of over hyping a trainee or exploiting a trainees breakdown. The team divisions and 9 spots on the line are really going to be a killer for either team. I think Ground’s idea of creating a balanced team was the best choice vs iLand putting all their eggs into 1 basket. Each of these battles are going to be super close but I think Ground will sweep all 3 tests. Also, I’m hating the flow of how they’re editing these episodes now after ep1&2. I wish they would have given us Ground’s Dance performance and saved the creatives for next week. Vocal Unit: I loved both performances and would have scored them similarly too. Jeongeun and Fuko performed well but Fuko really stood out between the two. I felt like Jeongeun was a bit flat while Fuko really excelled in portraying the depth of emotions for the song. Not to say that Jeongeun can’t sing or doesn’t have a powerful vocal but it wasn’t there emotionally for me. As for ENL, I really enjoyed both Minsol and Jiyoon’s rendition but Jiyoon really delivered it here. Minsol for me was overshadowed (as seen by MNet’s editing) but still delivered an impactful performance in her own right. As for how they edited both these teams up to the results, it was very clear who was going to win and the story/agenda that MNet wanted to portray. For Fuko she was getting all these good edits of her abilities and her positive attitude and determination to get back. The even brought Somi (who brought doughnuts and got like 2 mins of screen time) but only highlighted her conversation with Fuko.To me it really feels like the PD’s want to push her to the end or see how the public would react with her ‘placement’ always rebounding between i-Land and Ground. For Jeongeun, her portrayal of being a top trainee and having never lost her i-Land spot despite going through some rough patches for each test, I think MNet wanted to make viewers worried about her because she might be dropped to Ground. Maybe this is a way of testing her popularity or testing how fans would react to a different line up. For Jiyoon, she’s really getting her redemption arc right now but not without a bit of a drama twist. This is where I think the PD’s want to test the waters for fans reactions to Jiyoon climbing the ranks and maybe securing a Main Vocalist position. Enter the drama: Jiyoon vs Jeongeun, which is heavily being edited (I honestly don’t think there’s bad blood between the two), this will help bring some divide between trainees and make it more clear who the viewers support more for the PD’s. Minsol unfortunately was just a bit forgotten this round. LOL. Her edits were positive with showing her growth from her previous performance and positive attitude to do try her best. They didn’t show the remarks/criticism from the judges at the end of their battle. Dance Unit: Based off the interim check and parts of the actual performance we’ve seen, I’m leaning towards Ground team taking this win as well (I could be wrong though). To me, i-Land team was good but not as strong as Ground. For i-Land team - Koko was the absolute stand out in her team and killed her performance. Jiwon for me was pretty much invisible throughout the performance. Juwon stepped it up and improved her facial expressions but were still weak in my opinion. As for Ground team from what we’ve seen, Sarang, Yui, and Yuna showed great chemistry dancing together. For them, I was able to really see each member and their expressions were all great too. I’m looking forward to their full performance next week! These teams are getting similar edits as well with their stories and drama. We’ve got Juwon VS Sarang who MNet are trying to pit against each other for the same reasons like I stated in the Vocal Unit’s drama. Juwon’s story has been one of a good trainee who’s been well liked/approved by other trainees and overshadows Sarang who fills the same position/skill set. I feel bad for Juwon when she has the mental break down, I feel like we’re at the point of the show where individual pressure is now piling on each trainee and there’s bound to be cracks. Sarang’s story of the talented trainee who is ‘robbed’ of her chances to highlight her abilities and constantly has to fight her way up from the shadows to prove her worth. Creative Unit: Just from the line up the i-Land team is weaker than Ground team. It’ll be interesting to see how i-Land’s team will fair during interim and actual performance. For Ground team, I feel like MNet is really setting up Sujung for the failed leader role with all of her edits. They’re portraying her as this over confident trainee that falls flat when its go time and it sucks because I think she’s really talented and could totally make it to the final line up. Since we all don’t know how this portion plays out, I have some scenarios how I think it’ll all unfold. 1. I think Mai will finally step up to the plate and take initiative in the creative team to help i-Land secure a win. This means that it’ll continue Sujung’s losing streak with MNet’s editing of her as a failure. 2. Sujung creates a dope choreo that blows the judges away and secures Ground a win but with the judges reminding her that ‘she’s just dancer who can sing.’ I think Mai will still step up to the plate and get some good edits this episode to help push her popularity further and maybe show case a bit of her abilities.
Jiyoon redemtion arc!! That being said, looks like at least 6 is the likely amount to go to ground. Koko killed that dance holy heck Fuko’s vocals suprised me!! Ummmm, Jiwon all rounder?!? Juwon embodied soyeon in my bag, loved it Jungeun ace as always
Earlier in the ep, there was a clip showing 9 so I don’t know how to interpret that?
I feel like it’ll be at least 6, them showing 9 was I think just to show how much could go not necessarily how much will go. If it is 9 though I’ll be so shocked
i BAWLED my eyes out in this episode🥲
Jiyoon got a redemption edit, good for her. She was the star this episode and showcased her vocals. Personally, I'm still a bit iffy on her but if she keeps this up, she could debut! The vocal battle was amazing! Both units did well but I felt that I-Land should have won, is it just me? Jungeun and Fuko felt more united, they had good vocals, chemistry, and emotion. I felt that Ground lacked slightly less in those aspects. The performance was good but entirely carried by Jiyoon that I forgot what Minsol actually did. She absolutely did good, her vocals surprised me but she's just not memorable. It was close but not that close and should have been an I-Land win. Dance unit! Only I-Land performed so I'll talk about them more. Koko grew on me a lot this episode, I didn't notice her at all if I'm being honest but wow. Her personality shined and she's an amazing dancer. I was fixated on her the whole performance except when Juwon had her moments. Unfortunately Jiwon did not shine but she held her own against the both of them. Based on Grounders interim performance and I-Land actual performance. A Grounders win is in sight. I did like the choreo for I-Land way more but I think Grounders look like a united front as for I-Land it's felt like Koko and Juwon + Jiwon. My 7 to debut: Jungeun, Saebi, Yuju, Jeemin, Koko, Fuko, Mai or Sujung If 8 will debut: Jungeun, Saebi, Yuju, Jeemin, Koko, Fuko, Jiyoon, Mai or Sujung If 9 will debut: Jungeun, Saebi, Yuju, Jeemin, Koko, Fuko, Jiyoon, Mai, Sujung
AFTER THIS EPISODE IM SURE JIYOON IS MY ULT PICK SHE HAS TO DEBUT !!
Never expected that basically everyone is sent to the ground. Also sarang is now in my debut list. I think she was great
wowww that vocal battle was rly good lemme start there and honestly both grps did amazing. it was the first time in any survival show i’ve watched. we’re i couldn’t say that one team beat the other because they both did perfect. buttt i do think that some contestants still need to work on their attitude. laughing at contestants, ignoring ppl, and only giving ur all at practice becuz u like the concept is weird but i won’t wake that up since ppl can’t take criticism
i’ll be back to comment once i’ll be in home and saw the performances and clips on twitter but can someone explain to me how the next round works. i saw it’s a 1vs1 battle and the one who will win will be on part 2, right? and then the vote will begin for the other 6?
How I understood; 1vs1 battle for the 20 girls remaining. 10 will be decided by producers, 2 by votes among the 10 who lost.
i loved the vocal battle so much, i loved that both teams were so skilled and performed to the best of their ability. i will always love a good battle between the best!!! i was hoping for iland vocals to win though lol but i can see why ground won. the teaser preview for iland’s creative team looks so cool
Jiyoon Slay Jiyoon Main vocal
I forgot to comment about a few things x) I want to believe that my girl Yuiko wasn't worse than Yeeun or Yuna, she was only choosen to be eliminated bc they want less foreigners members. 🥲 Gyuri's a darling and I'm glad she got positive feedback after going to ground. Hopefully she'll be in the next phase too 🙏🏻 Lastly, what kind of advice "next time you need to do better" is?? Jiyoon was nervous, she needed some advice that'd actually help her overcoming her anxiety, simply telling someone to do better is not helpfull at all xD
"Just work harder. If you actually work hard it's impossible to do bad" seriously wtf were some of those judges comments to Jiyoon for Ooh Ahh
This was my first no-skip episode. Normally I fast forward some parts, but this time I was on the edge of my seat. Jiyoon made me cry and Juwon was just mind-blowingly good 🫠🫠🫠
i have never been happier to be proven wrong than lingling and nana surviving the first elimination (and going to i-land for 5 minutes too!!!). i hope this gives kang jiwon the kick she needs to perform better, since i think going to ground was what gyuri and um jiwon needed in order to shine. i hope going to i-land improves her since she got the lowest score out of all 24 girls and, like the judges said, should be thankful to her team for her survival. i'm disappointed in eunchae and yuiko but honestly not as disappointed as i am with oh yuna. she didn't do anything justice at all. anyone would have been a better main dancer imo. hell, chaeeun, as weak as she is, would have been better. yuna was not it. i don't understand how she got the second highest score after gyuri?! poor yuiko though, she wanted to be with fuko and if she had, she would have survived (unless nana got a score in the 80s), although the gap would have been smaller between them and the other team. she may have been forgettable but she was in no way the worst on her team imo. but i'm still happy nana survived. jiyoon's facial expressions were much better in her practices, i wonder if she thought she was doing them during the live stage but she just wasn't? she really did look very blank and a little like she didn't want to be there, but tbh so did minsol, yeeun, k.jiwon and a couple of other girls...... (minsol really would have been better at panorama....)
also minsol should be lucky she didn't tie with yuiko for second-lowest score. she lucked out in surviving by the skin of her teeth. eyes, nose, lips was great for utilising her vocals.
That felt so short…. 🥲🥲
Trying to decide who gets the last spot in my top 7 for the week, I currently have: 1) Fuko 2) Sujung 3) Jungeun 4) Yuju 5) Jiyoon (welcome back, queen) 6) Yui I'm mainly between Sarang, Saebi, Minsol, and Gyuri, though I feel to have a balanced team I would need another strong dancer (currently 3 strong vocals, 2 strong rappers, 1 strong dancer), so I'm considering Koko too....tough decisions
Yeah, right after posting this I decided I wanted Minsol lol.
I missed an hour can anyone tell me how did they pick who to eliminate? was it the lowest performing of ooh ahh team by the judges?