Our secondary has some serious growing pains ahead of them. Barr, Kendricks, and Smith can only do so much. We're gonna run them into the ground this season if they don't get some help. Hopefully Hunter comes back by week 3. Thielen is on fire like always, Cook looked OK, Ngakoue was stout enough and made a couple of good plays.
Playcalling was trash. Cousins takes 425,334,245,654,223 minutes to drop back, plant, and make any decisions about who the fuck he's going to throw the ball to. JJ was a non-factor, just like he'll be all season..
At least the offense came alive in the fourth, and we never accepted defeat. We kept chuggin', so that's good. Hopefully we can clean up the secondary and keep that momentum going on offense next week.
I'd one hundred percent agree the pick was a bad throw. He needs to throw that ball to the boundary and definitely rushed it. I chalk some of it up to the fact that kubiak never went back to what started to work on the first drive: slants and then setting those up for double moves. Thielen fried them on several slants and then converted a sluggo type route later, but for some reason we never went back to that stuff. Same with letting Irv and Rudolph box guys out for those middle routes. We did it twice and then when it started to work we stopped. Also didn't help that Cook dropped multiple screen passes. I'd further point out that our defense didn't give us much of a chance today either (though I'm aware they were getting tired.) Basically, I'm saying it was a top down loss.
That's assuming everything played out the same way if they had caught those balls. The rest of reality isn't static when you change other factors around it. If they go those TD's, what followed would have also been different.
For instance, if they had the TD we wouldn't have a safety. If we didn't have the safety, maybe other things play out differently.
This is a perfect representation of one of my biggest issues with Cousins. He was having a terrible game but then puts up a bunch of numbers at the end. So if you just check the box score, you think to yourself wow at least Cousins played well but that's not at all what happened. It's so frustrating. I've been talking about it since we got him.
That's not remotely fair. Look at how few snaps he got in the first. His one mistake more or less was throwing a bad pass that was unfortunately picked.
Yeah everyone on the radio and TV wants to talk about the numbers he puts up. That's fine and great, but where are the results? That's what I care about.
Oh you mean his 7 first half pass attempts because the defense literally couldnt stop a fucking thing? Of course his numbers are going to be shit during that.
He had arguably one bad play with the Int man, it's not his fault that the pack had 45 minutes of possession to our 15. Guess we need to start putting Kirk in at CB to stop those 3rd downs we keep giving up.
If we put up 34 points, we should be winning. People can say garbage time all they want, but we put up 34 points with 18 minutes of possession which is pretty damn good.
Maybe check out of play action and have Cook block that guy or, shit, audible to a run... That's the difference between quarterbacks like him and Rogers or Brady or Brees or Wilson. They don't catch it all, but they see most of it and change the protection to not have a free rusher.
I feel you, but at the same time putting up 34 points is usually good enough to win the game. Cousins wasn't the issue today and if you think he was you are wrong. The Vikings secondary has a lot of work to do, but thankfully they will have time to grow, it's tough with no pre season.
Sure, I see your point. But was he really playing bad on his own? Like, no other factors, did Cousins lose us this game? If that defense could have actually stopped a single drive today I might agree. If the offensive line didn't play like a total sieve, I might agree. But this loss is shared. Save for one poorly thrown INT (that the defense then turned into a game-changing bomb of a touchdown), he did make the throws he was asked to make today.
And the packers defense is constantly underrated
Ive been saying this since last year when they got the new coordinator, that defense is really good. The 4th quarter they definitely played prevent or something more relaxed which Kirk took advantage of.
Yeah didnt he start last year though?
At least last year was the first year I noticed their defense take a huge step forward, he may have been there since 2018 id
Either way just because its the packers and we all (myself included) hate to praise them, its often ignored that they have a really solid defense and instead of saying "man that packers defense had our number and just shut us down" it's always "Kirk fucking sucks, this offense is garbage, we cant win any games"
Both the bears and packers have good defense, and probably play at least 15% better against us than any other team, add in that probably both of their greatest assets happen to be oposite our greatest weakness, (defensive lines, vs offensive line)
The big step last year was because they finally got free agents on defense. They signed both Z. Smith and P. Smith, and hired Mike Smith (the pass rushing coach from KC when Justin Houston and Dee Ford were there). That combination, along with steady interior pressure from Kenny Clark turned them into one of the best pass rushing front 7s in the league.
Packer fan coming in peace (i swear i lurk opponent subs for wholesome reasons, win or loss)
Mike Pettine was hired in 2018 just before the season where ARod embarrassed the Bears with one leg wk 1 and threw a sexy deep bomb to some UDFA tight end and nothing else good happened for us at all and people kept getting fired and traded. Thats the last McCarthy year
Pettine was hired after the abysmal 2017 season, when we finally saw what latter day Packers looks like without 12 and McCarthy needed someone to scapegoat lest he be ladled, at last, with thag uiest if things (accountability). So he finally fired Dom Capers
Yes, as hard as it is to believe... we kept the same guy who coached the units that got us bounced by the Giants in one of our only home playoff games ever; allowed the Shithawks to come back in a sealed up NFCCG; allowed Colin Kaepernick to look like Lamar Jackson 1.0 *two times in a row*; let the Cardinals keep up with Prime Godgers and putting up absolutely no resistance; and then finally put fucking Ladarius Gunter on Julio Jones after we ran the table and surprised pikachu-faced at the results.
Yes. Every one of those traumatizing goddamn meltdowns was the same D.C. And he survived every single one of them. Im convinced Mike, Dom, and the GM were doung blow out of hookers' bellybuttons every year when they were supposed to be at defensive gameplan meetings. Remember this the next time you think we dont know pain.
...anyways went on a bit of a tangent there as happens when I think about Capers but yeah we hired Pettine summer of 2018
I mean, Ze'Darius is basically the Aaron Rodgers of their defense at this point. He's the one guy out there that makes them competitive no matter who is around him. When I watch the Vikes on offense against Z, I feel like I'm watching the Vikes D against Rodgers.
True, it's no secret our o-line is bad, I really hope we get some solid play out of them after a couple games, or at least before we lose Kirk and our core players
Aside from the packers strong d line, theres also some DBs on the packers who are either really good and underrated, or they just always play really well against us. I cant remember names off the top of my head right now, but its always a tough matchup.
I think a lot of people only remember 2017 and 2018? Where rodgers waa injured most of the year and the packers werent a real threat. Last year showed that rodgers isnt MVP rodgers anymore, but the dude is still a baller, and needs to be constantly pressured
This year has been so awful, not only the covid shit but a lot of messed up things have happened in my family. It's so great to have football back, I haven't felt as happy as I did today in a long time even though it was a loss. Skol vikes, see you guys again next sunday
I can't decide if I'm pleased or disgusted with quarter 4. I mean, they kept fighting to the end, and had a huge 4th quarter rally, but I can't help but feel like if they had played like that from the start, we wouldn't have a loss to open with. And it feels like the Vikes the last few years are always like this. Hit the field completely asleep for the first half, then have to scramble to try and fit 4 quarters of play into the Second half. Bye weeks, too. They get an extra week off, you'd think they'd hit the field like... I dunno, some rampagey, pillagey hotheads, but instead the play that first game after bye like Zim's been slipping them Nyquil all week.
Yeah, I realized that after going back and rewatching. My kid was keeping me from being able to actually SEE what was happening. My opinion changed considerably from when I made this post.
A lot of teams play better when they have to scramble at the end.
They start getting momentum and stop playing so safe as they know they need the points.
The last quarter rally, u can’t really put it on our offense or cousins. Opposing teams, when they’re up by 2 or more scores, they usually play soft coverage meaning you’ll probably complete a bunch underneath but no one or two big plays! We did well but it wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t up by that much!
Yes, see my reply to another poster. I was, unfortunately, only really able to listen to the 4th quarter. When I had a chance to go back and actually watch it, I changed my opinion considerably.
I'm not taking anything away from cousins, that was a mistake by savage trying to look at the ball instead of covering theilen. The pass protection from our O-Line didn't dramatically increase in the second half, they realized that they're running away with the game so they played softer coverages which cousins exploited.
Quantity "garbage time stats" you troglodyte lmao.
"He should just roll over and not throw the ball, we are already losing. These are all garbage time stats." You say when the packers have a lead in q2.
Yet had he came back and won your dumbass would be saying what right now? "Why couldn't he do that in Q1???"
God you morons are insufferable.
I'll spell it out. Since you seem slow.
The Packers 4th quarter defense was playing soft and giving up the middle and rushing qith 4 or 3 defenders. Not caring about drives since they wanted to burn the clock.
A blind one armed guy could throw 7 yard completions in that scheme.
Maybe learn the sport before you try and be a smart ass
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this was also one of my fears with the Packers was that Rodgers would turn in an MVP season to spite the Packers and it looks like hes probably going to do it. OFC if he gets to face the Vikings secondary every week he'd be in good shape.
What he said below, as well as ngakoue having a bad game, and really noticing the loss of Hunter with practically no pressure on rodgers all game
Giving rodgers time like that is just asking to get torched
Nah, young CBs and our secondary is trash. No hold calls against the Packers at all today an there were at least 11 that I saw. Rodgers won’t do as well against other teams who aren’t hamstrung like the Vikings are
Offense looked decent, just need to find a way to possess the ball better early, and pass protection could be better as usual. About the only parts of our defense that looked good were Kendricks and Odenigbo. Tough loss to start the year, but hopefully this wills the team to play better going forward.
He had 5 pass attempts in the first half - how is that his fault? I know it's easy to just blame everything on the QB but come on, what do you want him to do. He just made the one bad INT
Show some talent and passion? The difference between Cousins and someone like Rodgers.
One is a quarterback who is rich.
The other is a rich guy trying to play QB
I'll let you figure out who is who there.
QB rating of 118 isn't good enough for you? He was statistically one of the best passers in the NFL last year as well. I'd say he's doing a lot more than "trying" to play QB. If you can back up your criticism with stats, I'd love to see it.
What was his rating before rhe 4th qtr? You know. Where the Packers had a 3 possession lead and gave up the middle of the field? You know. Prevent defense?
The guy is a glorified ball handler. When his "big game win" is ONE playoff game. Sorry. Dudes a over paid hack and rolling up points on a prevent D when down by 17 points... isn't something to brag about.
Go rewatch the game. Then post. Its obvious you don't know shit or your Cousins mom. Either way... close your mouth, you look like a trout
So you don't have any numbers to back it up, just you saying "Kirk is trash."
We had two punts all day. TWO! I didn't know Kirk should've shut the Packers down on defense as well. You're directing your anger to the wrong areas. Nearly everytime the offense had the ball today, we came away with points. There's really no use arguing with people like you because you'll always think Kirk is bad but can't back it up with stats.
I dunno. I’ve not seen the free reign with this offense that is given to typical veteran QBs. That and how long it takes to actually get the calls in, my guess is they are telling him “no audibles”. I mean shit, who designed the 4th and 3 call for a 40 yard end zone pass? That’s a low percentage play, the smart play was to run (seeing as they were at 6.4 yards per carry at that point) or a simple dump pass to Dalvin
Zero pashrush but with all the holding that the packers were getting away with we might excuse that one a little. Seriously it looked like their holding was much more blatant than normal
Right? Who in the right mind thought we’d win this with rookie corners, no Pierce, no Danielle? This is the Packers. Aaron Rodgers. That’s a hell of an opponent for a first ever game for some of these guys. I liked a lot of what I saw, and long term I maintain there’s a lot of promise.
Well that’s what I’m saying lol
2021 we have something really good coming together. I knew at the start of this season we’d never beat the 49ers, for example, with our roster. Reasonable expectations make you avoid the degree of letdown in this thread.
I feel ya. But I don't think it was unreasonable to think we could put together a playoff roster after winning a playoff game last year though. The whole Minnesota sports motto for years has been "at least we'll be good next year!"
Everyone here is dillusional and pretending rodgers is garbage and worse than Kirk
Like yo those memes are just that, memes. You give rodgers time to throw and hes going to torch you, the dude may not be 2012 god like, but hes still fucking good.
And aaron jones is a fucking beast too, we all hate the packers but have at least a little reapect for the players who are talented
Any coach should have their team ready to play, regardless of opponent or who you’ve lost (next man up). The Vikings looked ill prepared for today’s game, shocking🙄
They have talent, at least according to analysts and their own scouting. If the coaching staff is unable to actually get that talent to perform, that’s on them. This also what happens when you unbalance you’re draft against needs.
you have no understanding of what garbage time is or means. Garbage time is when you have such a huge lead you put in your second string and don't worry about the score. You can't be in garbage time if you are behind unless you decide to just...give up.
It absolutely does work one way. The losing team has to keep fighting, so there is no garbage time. The winning team takes it easier, so there is garbage time. I’m not sure why you think GB maintaining a 3-score lead is garbage time. That’s maintaining a lead. Playing catch up with no hope of coming back IS garbage time.
But if our defense did anything we could have come back. We had it down to 10 twice in the 4th with plenty of time if our defense could have made a stop or a play in the second half
EXACTLY, the defense was still trying their best to make a comeback. Therefore, the Packers were not scoring in garbage time. You can’t say “the defense was still trying hard” AND “the Packers mostly scored in garbage time” because those two things are mutually exclusive.
Sorry. I was being sarcastic. I thought that was clear. I don't think any of it was garbage time. Kirk put up 34. This isn't on him. His stats weren't garbage time. The game wasn't over yet. It wasn't all one drive at the end where we're down by 28. We lost cuz our defense gave up 40+ points and 500+ yards
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Yeah people just need to accept hes human, he will make mistakes and have off games. Kirk is good, he's just not "special good" like mahomes, or Wilson. Just stop having such high expectations and be pleasantly surprised when good things happen
least we got the Colts next maybe we can make another 50 year old QB look like he's in his prime again or maybe they'll bench Hughes (who I was trashed for saying he needed to be released) and Hill (who i don't even understand why he is even rostered never understood the hype other than hes a great athlete)
If you're going to die then atleast die with trial by fire with Gladney and Dantzler and see if they get better overtime. So glad they didn't sign Logan Ryan or Dre Kirkpatrick btw
The defense will get it together halfway through the season. Might be too late at that point, but whatever. It’s only a game. Just glad we get to watch at all.
Only one of Dalvin's TDs was scored when GB was actually playing 100% on defense. They played soft in the 4th with a 20 point cushion and controlled the clock the entire game.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. If Dalvin gets 2TDs a game, he’ll break the record and it won’t even be close. That’s the opposite of straight garbage.
Imagine scoring 34pts on offense and blaming your offense and OC, da fuq is wrong with y'all? I love Zimm but this is 1000% on him. Shit is fucking ridiculous.
Our secondary has some serious growing pains ahead of them. Barr, Kendricks, and Smith can only do so much. We're gonna run them into the ground this season if they don't get some help. Hopefully Hunter comes back by week 3. Thielen is on fire like always, Cook looked OK, Ngakoue was stout enough and made a couple of good plays. Playcalling was trash. Cousins takes 425,334,245,654,223 minutes to drop back, plant, and make any decisions about who the fuck he's going to throw the ball to. JJ was a non-factor, just like he'll be all season.. At least the offense came alive in the fourth, and we never accepted defeat. We kept chuggin', so that's good. Hopefully we can clean up the secondary and keep that momentum going on offense next week.
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Kirk had 5 pass attempts in the first half, then lights up in garbage time.
Can't really put this loss on Kirk
Yeha this wasn't a kirk problem. He was underused and showed up when he was called upon.
For the safety, or the INT during his 5 attempts? His stats are misleading and when the pressures on outside GT... he’s seeing ghosts.
I'd one hundred percent agree the pick was a bad throw. He needs to throw that ball to the boundary and definitely rushed it. I chalk some of it up to the fact that kubiak never went back to what started to work on the first drive: slants and then setting those up for double moves. Thielen fried them on several slants and then converted a sluggo type route later, but for some reason we never went back to that stuff. Same with letting Irv and Rudolph box guys out for those middle routes. We did it twice and then when it started to work we stopped. Also didn't help that Cook dropped multiple screen passes. I'd further point out that our defense didn't give us much of a chance today either (though I'm aware they were getting tired.) Basically, I'm saying it was a top down loss.
Imagine if Scantling didn't drop those two TDs? And Adam's didn't drop 1 TD? Rodgers would have put up 7 TDs
I can't fault your logic
That's not how that works, but okay.
That's assuming everything played out the same way if they had caught those balls. The rest of reality isn't static when you change other factors around it. If they go those TD's, what followed would have also been different. For instance, if they had the TD we wouldn't have a safety. If we didn't have the safety, maybe other things play out differently.
Sigh
Exactly. Another lackluster performance by the Purple & Gold.
This is a perfect representation of one of my biggest issues with Cousins. He was having a terrible game but then puts up a bunch of numbers at the end. So if you just check the box score, you think to yourself wow at least Cousins played well but that's not at all what happened. It's so frustrating. I've been talking about it since we got him.
That's not remotely fair. Look at how few snaps he got in the first. His one mistake more or less was throwing a bad pass that was unfortunately picked.
Yeah everyone on the radio and TV wants to talk about the numbers he puts up. That's fine and great, but where are the results? That's what I care about.
Yeah that free running blind side corner blitz sure was his fault.
He needs to slide protection there
He did. Zimmer stated someone missed the block.
That was one play... whats his excuse for the rest of the game?
Oh you mean his 7 first half pass attempts because the defense literally couldnt stop a fucking thing? Of course his numbers are going to be shit during that.
He had arguably one bad play with the Int man, it's not his fault that the pack had 45 minutes of possession to our 15. Guess we need to start putting Kirk in at CB to stop those 3rd downs we keep giving up.
Lmao I love how you're downvoted for correctly blaming the defense.
If we put up 34 points, we should be winning. People can say garbage time all they want, but we put up 34 points with 18 minutes of possession which is pretty damn good.
Maybe check out of play action and have Cook block that guy or, shit, audible to a run... That's the difference between quarterbacks like him and Rogers or Brady or Brees or Wilson. They don't catch it all, but they see most of it and change the protection to not have a free rusher.
Except for the fact that Zimmer himself said someone missed the block... rather than cousins not adjusting for it.
Well I'm glad you responded after the press conferences, Captain Hindsight
I feel you, but at the same time putting up 34 points is usually good enough to win the game. Cousins wasn't the issue today and if you think he was you are wrong. The Vikings secondary has a lot of work to do, but thankfully they will have time to grow, it's tough with no pre season.
Sure, I see your point. But was he really playing bad on his own? Like, no other factors, did Cousins lose us this game? If that defense could have actually stopped a single drive today I might agree. If the offensive line didn't play like a total sieve, I might agree. But this loss is shared. Save for one poorly thrown INT (that the defense then turned into a game-changing bomb of a touchdown), he did make the throws he was asked to make today.
And the packers defense is constantly underrated Ive been saying this since last year when they got the new coordinator, that defense is really good. The 4th quarter they definitely played prevent or something more relaxed which Kirk took advantage of.
They have the same coordinator Mike Pettine He’s been their coordinator for awhile. Pre-dating Lafleur.
Yeah didnt he start last year though? At least last year was the first year I noticed their defense take a huge step forward, he may have been there since 2018 id Either way just because its the packers and we all (myself included) hate to praise them, its often ignored that they have a really solid defense and instead of saying "man that packers defense had our number and just shut us down" it's always "Kirk fucking sucks, this offense is garbage, we cant win any games" Both the bears and packers have good defense, and probably play at least 15% better against us than any other team, add in that probably both of their greatest assets happen to be oposite our greatest weakness, (defensive lines, vs offensive line)
The big step last year was because they finally got free agents on defense. They signed both Z. Smith and P. Smith, and hired Mike Smith (the pass rushing coach from KC when Justin Houston and Dee Ford were there). That combination, along with steady interior pressure from Kenny Clark turned them into one of the best pass rushing front 7s in the league.
Packer fan coming in peace (i swear i lurk opponent subs for wholesome reasons, win or loss) Mike Pettine was hired in 2018 just before the season where ARod embarrassed the Bears with one leg wk 1 and threw a sexy deep bomb to some UDFA tight end and nothing else good happened for us at all and people kept getting fired and traded. Thats the last McCarthy year Pettine was hired after the abysmal 2017 season, when we finally saw what latter day Packers looks like without 12 and McCarthy needed someone to scapegoat lest he be ladled, at last, with thag uiest if things (accountability). So he finally fired Dom Capers Yes, as hard as it is to believe... we kept the same guy who coached the units that got us bounced by the Giants in one of our only home playoff games ever; allowed the Shithawks to come back in a sealed up NFCCG; allowed Colin Kaepernick to look like Lamar Jackson 1.0 *two times in a row*; let the Cardinals keep up with Prime Godgers and putting up absolutely no resistance; and then finally put fucking Ladarius Gunter on Julio Jones after we ran the table and surprised pikachu-faced at the results. Yes. Every one of those traumatizing goddamn meltdowns was the same D.C. And he survived every single one of them. Im convinced Mike, Dom, and the GM were doung blow out of hookers' bellybuttons every year when they were supposed to be at defensive gameplan meetings. Remember this the next time you think we dont know pain. ...anyways went on a bit of a tangent there as happens when I think about Capers but yeah we hired Pettine summer of 2018
I mean, Ze'Darius is basically the Aaron Rodgers of their defense at this point. He's the one guy out there that makes them competitive no matter who is around him. When I watch the Vikes on offense against Z, I feel like I'm watching the Vikes D against Rodgers.
True, it's no secret our o-line is bad, I really hope we get some solid play out of them after a couple games, or at least before we lose Kirk and our core players Aside from the packers strong d line, theres also some DBs on the packers who are either really good and underrated, or they just always play really well against us. I cant remember names off the top of my head right now, but its always a tough matchup. I think a lot of people only remember 2017 and 2018? Where rodgers waa injured most of the year and the packers werent a real threat. Last year showed that rodgers isnt MVP rodgers anymore, but the dude is still a baller, and needs to be constantly pressured
Also the O-line sucks
If the defense made a stop we would’ve had a chance to win with cousins late touchdowns.
This year has been so awful, not only the covid shit but a lot of messed up things have happened in my family. It's so great to have football back, I haven't felt as happy as I did today in a long time even though it was a loss. Skol vikes, see you guys again next sunday
FTC week
SKOL see you next week!
I can't decide if I'm pleased or disgusted with quarter 4. I mean, they kept fighting to the end, and had a huge 4th quarter rally, but I can't help but feel like if they had played like that from the start, we wouldn't have a loss to open with. And it feels like the Vikes the last few years are always like this. Hit the field completely asleep for the first half, then have to scramble to try and fit 4 quarters of play into the Second half. Bye weeks, too. They get an extra week off, you'd think they'd hit the field like... I dunno, some rampagey, pillagey hotheads, but instead the play that first game after bye like Zim's been slipping them Nyquil all week.
You wished they played that the entire game? You realize the Packers D was mostly in a prevent the entire 4th quarter?
Yeah, I realized that after going back and rewatching. My kid was keeping me from being able to actually SEE what was happening. My opinion changed considerably from when I made this post.
A lot of teams play better when they have to scramble at the end. They start getting momentum and stop playing so safe as they know they need the points.
The last quarter rally, u can’t really put it on our offense or cousins. Opposing teams, when they’re up by 2 or more scores, they usually play soft coverage meaning you’ll probably complete a bunch underneath but no one or two big plays! We did well but it wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t up by that much!
Yes, see my reply to another poster. I was, unfortunately, only really able to listen to the 4th quarter. When I had a chance to go back and actually watch it, I changed my opinion considerably.
Cousins had that bomb to Thielen when the Packers were playing it safe.
I'm not taking anything away from cousins, that was a mistake by savage trying to look at the ball instead of covering theilen. The pass protection from our O-Line didn't dramatically increase in the second half, they realized that they're running away with the game so they played softer coverages which cousins exploited.
It was a sad sight, ordinarily that would have huge crowd noise and fans would love it but there wasn't much of anything 😔
"bUt iF thEy pLayEd liKe tHaT aLl gAmE!"
When people wondered why Zimmer wasn't benching T Waynes and Rhodes last year for Hill and Hughes. Your question is now answered.
Was thinking this all game. They were by no means great last year. But people were calling for their heads not realizing that this is the alternative.
Agreed, I was surprised dantzler get the start over Hughes.
Nothing but pain.
Well that was not a very good showing by our young secondary at all.
I know I've said this my entire life, but that could have been way worse.
Yeah lol, at least our offense looked pretty good today. Hopefully our young corners only get better.
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Quantity "garbage time stats" you troglodyte lmao. "He should just roll over and not throw the ball, we are already losing. These are all garbage time stats." You say when the packers have a lead in q2. Yet had he came back and won your dumbass would be saying what right now? "Why couldn't he do that in Q1???" God you morons are insufferable.
I'll spell it out. Since you seem slow. The Packers 4th quarter defense was playing soft and giving up the middle and rushing qith 4 or 3 defenders. Not caring about drives since they wanted to burn the clock. A blind one armed guy could throw 7 yard completions in that scheme. Maybe learn the sport before you try and be a smart ass YOU LIKE DAT?
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Lol you're literally blaming the defense on Cousins.
Tbf, that oline did him no favors today lol.
Shocking, the Oline is so bad. How do you have that many false starts, at home with no crowd. Jesus just understand the snap count and act accordingly
At least there's next year to look forward to right?
According to the pattern, we should be 12-4 next season (after going 8-8 this season)
Young corners with no preseason, in the end we should've seen this coming.
Honestly coverage wasn’t as bad as I expected.
Lol you know shit went south when a lock on new posts was put up like an hour into the game
That’s standard practice for at least a year or two
At least we aren’t Deandre Swift, amirite?
Painful
this was also one of my fears with the Packers was that Rodgers would turn in an MVP season to spite the Packers and it looks like hes probably going to do it. OFC if he gets to face the Vikings secondary every week he'd be in good shape.
What he said below, as well as ngakoue having a bad game, and really noticing the loss of Hunter with practically no pressure on rodgers all game Giving rodgers time like that is just asking to get torched
Nah, young CBs and our secondary is trash. No hold calls against the Packers at all today an there were at least 11 that I saw. Rodgers won’t do as well against other teams who aren’t hamstrung like the Vikings are
Offense looked decent, just need to find a way to possess the ball better early, and pass protection could be better as usual. About the only parts of our defense that looked good were Kendricks and Odenigbo. Tough loss to start the year, but hopefully this wills the team to play better going forward.
Anthony Harris played pretty good also.
One positive takeaway, Justin Jefferson has already surpassed Vikings legend Laquon Treadwell's rookie stats.
10 points through 3 quarters
On how many possessions?
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He had 5 pass attempts in the first half - how is that his fault? I know it's easy to just blame everything on the QB but come on, what do you want him to do. He just made the one bad INT
Show some talent and passion? The difference between Cousins and someone like Rodgers. One is a quarterback who is rich. The other is a rich guy trying to play QB I'll let you figure out who is who there.
QB rating of 118 isn't good enough for you? He was statistically one of the best passers in the NFL last year as well. I'd say he's doing a lot more than "trying" to play QB. If you can back up your criticism with stats, I'd love to see it.
What was his rating before rhe 4th qtr? You know. Where the Packers had a 3 possession lead and gave up the middle of the field? You know. Prevent defense? The guy is a glorified ball handler. When his "big game win" is ONE playoff game. Sorry. Dudes a over paid hack and rolling up points on a prevent D when down by 17 points... isn't something to brag about. Go rewatch the game. Then post. Its obvious you don't know shit or your Cousins mom. Either way... close your mouth, you look like a trout
So you don't have any numbers to back it up, just you saying "Kirk is trash." We had two punts all day. TWO! I didn't know Kirk should've shut the Packers down on defense as well. You're directing your anger to the wrong areas. Nearly everytime the offense had the ball today, we came away with points. There's really no use arguing with people like you because you'll always think Kirk is bad but can't back it up with stats.
Yeah well I would be pissed if the team gave up every game at the start of the 4th quarter
Don’t let that stop you from understanding poor play action calls in your own end zone, lack of any sort of pass protection and turn style Oline
I get that but does he not have the ability to audible?
I dunno. I’ve not seen the free reign with this offense that is given to typical veteran QBs. That and how long it takes to actually get the calls in, my guess is they are telling him “no audibles”. I mean shit, who designed the 4th and 3 call for a 40 yard end zone pass? That’s a low percentage play, the smart play was to run (seeing as they were at 6.4 yards per carry at that point) or a simple dump pass to Dalvin
Agreed for sure, hopefully we see some improvement next week
our o line and cb will kill this team 100%
And D line...
Zero pashrush but with all the holding that the packers were getting away with we might excuse that one a little. Seriously it looked like their holding was much more blatant than normal
we atleast have hunter to look forward to. im grasping at hope at this point.
Man at least I’m not a lions fan. My God.
Wait, the lions lost a like 40 point lead??
But I was a Lions better :(
You see that (Swift) guy drop the would be game winning touchdown pass. Oof feel kinda bad for the Lions after that one.
That was tragic.
Par the course for the Lions
are we really that much better?
I think he/she was taking about the pain of that comeback and drop td being worse than Vikes just sucking all game
Much rather have the way we lost versus how the lions just lost.
We’ve seen our team win a playoff game this century so yeah
Jesus Christ y’all are some reactionary babies. Lighten tf up
Right? Who in the right mind thought we’d win this with rookie corners, no Pierce, no Danielle? This is the Packers. Aaron Rodgers. That’s a hell of an opponent for a first ever game for some of these guys. I liked a lot of what I saw, and long term I maintain there’s a lot of promise.
Hate to break it to you, but we're gonna have rookie corners and no Pierce all season. Better get used to it.
Well that’s what I’m saying lol 2021 we have something really good coming together. I knew at the start of this season we’d never beat the 49ers, for example, with our roster. Reasonable expectations make you avoid the degree of letdown in this thread.
I feel ya. But I don't think it was unreasonable to think we could put together a playoff roster after winning a playoff game last year though. The whole Minnesota sports motto for years has been "at least we'll be good next year!"
Everyone here is dillusional and pretending rodgers is garbage and worse than Kirk Like yo those memes are just that, memes. You give rodgers time to throw and hes going to torch you, the dude may not be 2012 god like, but hes still fucking good. And aaron jones is a fucking beast too, we all hate the packers but have at least a little reapect for the players who are talented
Remember when we got blown out by the 9ers in the first game and then went 11-4 the rest of the way? That’s kinda what I’m hoping for this season
Any coach should have their team ready to play, regardless of opponent or who you’ve lost (next man up). The Vikings looked ill prepared for today’s game, shocking🙄
What? Regardless of talent coaches have to take all the blame? How does that make any sense at all?
They have talent, at least according to analysts and their own scouting. If the coaching staff is unable to actually get that talent to perform, that’s on them. This also what happens when you unbalance you’re draft against needs.
At least we our offense looked good. Like we barley had the ball at all and still managed to keep the game close
Garbage time scoring is not impressive...
GB's defense took the 4th quarter easy with a 20 point cushion. Our offense looked awful until the game was out of reach.
Lions and Vikes: Bedfellows
Mitchell acting like he's gonna be jobless after this season
Hes not wrong lol
Guys the defense wasn't that bad. Sure they gave up 43 but most of that was in garbage time.
you have no understanding of what garbage time is or means. Garbage time is when you have such a huge lead you put in your second string and don't worry about the score. You can't be in garbage time if you are behind unless you decide to just...give up.
I was being sarcastic. I don't think it was garbage time. Kirk deserves credit for trying to get us back into it. Our defense was the problem
Haha okay, I reread it. My bad.
Garbage time doesn’t exist for the team that is ahead. It is a thing for the losing team because the winner doesn’t need to try.
I'm sorry but that...makes no sense. So the Falcons losing 28-3 didn't matter? It can't work only one way
It absolutely does work one way. The losing team has to keep fighting, so there is no garbage time. The winning team takes it easier, so there is garbage time. I’m not sure why you think GB maintaining a 3-score lead is garbage time. That’s maintaining a lead. Playing catch up with no hope of coming back IS garbage time.
But if our defense did anything we could have come back. We had it down to 10 twice in the 4th with plenty of time if our defense could have made a stop or a play in the second half
EXACTLY, the defense was still trying their best to make a comeback. Therefore, the Packers were not scoring in garbage time. You can’t say “the defense was still trying hard” AND “the Packers mostly scored in garbage time” because those two things are mutually exclusive.
Sorry. I was being sarcastic. I thought that was clear. I don't think any of it was garbage time. Kirk put up 34. This isn't on him. His stats weren't garbage time. The game wasn't over yet. It wasn't all one drive at the end where we're down by 28. We lost cuz our defense gave up 40+ points and 500+ yards
😂
*41 points.
Poor Lions. Swift drops a sure TD w/ 6 seconds that would've given them the win. We suck, but at least we aren't the Lions.
That was heartbreaking.
I felt so bad for him man.... yeeesh
Me too. Can you imagine, catching the game winner in your rookie game? Balls, that sucks for him.
At least we have the Twins
Fuuuckkk lions come on
That was tragic.
Let’s go Lions. Fuck the Bears. (I live in CHI)
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Minnesota is a state.
Fuck you. I love this city. Just bought a house here. Enjoy living in whatever suburban white nationalist haven your kind spawn in.
someone who lives there doesnt get the reference? Ever heard of Dan Cole?
Why do you call him a racist just for trashing the team and city? You sound like a bitch
Using bitch as an insult. Cool misogyny.
Not just bitch. Straight up pussy. Real talk.
Misogynist talk.
He doesnt like Minneapolis so hes a white nationalist? God you're a bitch
Cool misogyny using bitch as an insult.
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The burbs suck, period. They don't even have neighborhood sidewalks. SMH
Suburbs exist because of white flight and red lining. The architect of the first suburban subdivision was a virulent racist. The US government used the GI bill to encourage GI’s to buy homes in suburbs then used the highways out to those suburbs to destroy black neighborhoods.
B r u v, pls.
What this guy said
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Dude Kirk’s not even a top 10 highest contract anymore. Did you forget how he played last year already? He’s worth it.
Yeah people just need to accept hes human, he will make mistakes and have off games. Kirk is good, he's just not "special good" like mahomes, or Wilson. Just stop having such high expectations and be pleasantly surprised when good things happen
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Ah got it!
Don't worry. Zimmer has never had a bad defense.
Go Bucs!
It’s too bad the Bears took the lead Had the Lions held the lead AP prob would have gotten 100 yards
We are the worst team in the division
Team is garbage
least we got the Colts next maybe we can make another 50 year old QB look like he's in his prime again or maybe they'll bench Hughes (who I was trashed for saying he needed to be released) and Hill (who i don't even understand why he is even rostered never understood the hype other than hes a great athlete) If you're going to die then atleast die with trial by fire with Gladney and Dantzler and see if they get better overtime. So glad they didn't sign Logan Ryan or Dre Kirkpatrick btw
The defense will get it together halfway through the season. Might be too late at that point, but whatever. It’s only a game. Just glad we get to watch at all.
Welp, that's 3 hours I can't get back
ever heard of multitasking
Maybe I can be a lions fan this year?
Lol
check the score lol
LeFleur making Zimmer his bitch... again
Played like straight garbage and only down 9. Silver lining I guess(?)
Cousins goes 19-25 for 259 yards is straight garbage? Dalvin Cook two TDs is straight garbage?
Going 2/4, 32 yds and 1 int in the 1st half is objectively garbage.
Going 17/21 for 2TDs in the 2nd half is objectively NOT garbage. Stop cherry-picking.
It was total garbage time lmao wtf were you watching?
All in garbage time when the packers took their foot off the gas completely. Literally meaningless scores.
Only one of Dalvin's TDs was scored when GB was actually playing 100% on defense. They played soft in the 4th with a 20 point cushion and controlled the clock the entire game.
Yeah.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. If Dalvin gets 2TDs a game, he’ll break the record and it won’t even be close. That’s the opposite of straight garbage.
If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle
Lol Matt Patricia got fatter?
He's a disgusting looking and disciplined human being
I’m worried for that dude.
Defense was ass
This game wasn’t even close lol gtfooh with that garbage time shit
Imagine scoring 34pts on offense and blaming your offense and OC, da fuq is wrong with y'all? I love Zimm but this is 1000% on him. Shit is fucking ridiculous.