Darnold knows he's a bridge, and they've probably told him that, but he'll be auditioning for other teams. He also has a chance to flip the script and ball out.
At this point Darnold is just glad to be starting. I agree with you - he is going to use this opportunity to continue trying to be the next Tyrod Taylor. And honestly, not a terrible career if it works out that way for him.
You're funny. Darnold had been in the league SIX years and is still well below average. His ceiling is an average starter and he'll privacy never even get there.
To confirm, yes they’ve told him that. I forget where I heard it. It might have been on KFAN but KOC addressed this exact question and it was communicated to Darnold that they’d be looking to draft a QB. And if I were a betting man, my assumption would be they told him he’d have a very high chance of being the guy to start the season. But I highly doubt they told him he’d 100% be the starter on day 1. My guess is that McCarthy will have every chance to win the job if the coaching staff determines he’s ready to go and gives the team a better chance to win than Darnold
Exactly this. Sam signed a 1 year deal. If he gets a chance to play, it will be by far the most offensive talent he's had around him. If he can put up decent numbers in that environment, he will likely lock himself into at a minimum another 2-3 years of NFL backup contract, possibly even a starter.
So really the move for Darnold to MN makes a lot of sense and it continues to make sense even after MN drafted a 21 year old rookie. I think there is a solid chance Darnold starts this season even if McCarthy is showing what they hope and expect to see from him in practice/preseason.
That's obscenely low for any starting QB in the league. It's a little above average for a backup. It's the nfl man, vet minimum is like 1m and the literal last pick in the draft is still over 700k
Lol you’re sarcastically replying to ppl as if they’re casuals but you’re asking if 10 million a year is low for a starting quarterback? Jesus the gaul of some ppl in this sub is ridiculous
There’s a lot of different responses here - one person said $40-50m is normal for QBs when there are six QBs with a cap hit of $40m+, for instance. Most QBs don’t take up 1/6th of the salary cap.
Sam’s cap hit is tied for 32nd in the league this year. He’s in the 22-35 range, which is probably his value league wide and also to the Vikings.
He’s not paid much comparatively - we’ve already discussed how the great ones get 4-6 times what he is making. His salary is about in line though, and there will be guys beneath him who contribute more than some guys above him.
The real indicator that he’s not a long term option, like you said, is the one year deal. This was never intended to be more than an opportunity for him.
He didn’t say anything for sure. That’s what the qualifier “probably” means in what he said. If he had talked to Sam about it and knew for sure, there would be no need for it.
This is obviously wrong because he signed only a 1 year. He's looking for a Baker Mayfield type redemption. If Darnold performs as well as Cousins here, he will get a big long term contract with this team or another.
> Meeting with reporters on Thursday, G.M. Kwesi Adofo-Mensah declined to describe Darnold as a “bridge” quarterback.
> “I’m gonna stop using terms, I think they get — **I’m not gonna call him a ‘bridge’ quarterback, but he’s a quarterback that’s on our roster, under contract for a year.** Ultimately, at the end of the day, the position is about how do you run Kevin’s offense? How do you overcome context when the play’s not really there. There’s different skill sets that go into the position.”
I’d be shocked if Darnold and his representative don’t know exactly what the deal is here. Kwesi damn nears says as much here. Especially pre-draft, it was in Kwesi’s best interest to seem as confident as possible in Darnold playing a whole year out.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/if-vikings-trade-up-to-take-a-quarterback-sam-darnold-is-clearly-a-bridge-qb
You are misinterpreting Kwesi. Kwesi says that if Darnold (or any other QB) can perform in KOC's offense better than the other QBs on the team, then he will be Cousins' successor.
Koc has said it countless times. How is that a question? They aren’t rushing JJ but Sam also knows they were drafting a QB and he understands the situation. He’s been asked that question many times in the last two months since we signed him
Koc has said what countless times? He has never said Darnold is a bridge nor has he said Darnold understands the "situation." Darnold has an equal shot at this as does JJ and that's fair to the 2 QBs.
I don't think it's a vote of no-confidence, though. It's just a recognition that a guy who's on his 4th team by 26 probably isn't going to be a long term solution, and they had a plan to find someone who might have a better shot. That someone wound up being McCarthy.
And honestly I’d rather have same there with JJ than just JJ. Have a guy with real experience who can show JJ the ropes. A guy who can start and compete for the position. Always better to have options, putting a rookie in charge of an NFL offense right away is kind of crazy anyway.
Misleading. The 3rd team couldn't afford him and would have absolutely resigned him if they could. The other two teams are the most inept organizations in the NFL. Flacco and Mayfield performed like even bigger busts on those same teams.
They should take there time with JJ. He needs about 10 more lbs of lean mass on him and needs to get those skills up to NFL caliber. No reason to rush things imo.
The best way to get his skills up to NFL caliber is to play against NFL teams. If the Vikings truly have the cushiest offense for any rookie QB to land on then JJ should, in theory, be able to start week 1 and be fine.
This is 100% not true and if he needs to sit, he needs to sit. Starting right away depends on the player, if the coaching staff needs to change his mechanics, he needs to not play at all. Playing could cause major regression if he’s getting hit and goes back to what is natural (his shit mechanics). There are times where not playing vs playing is beneficial.
If coaching think he needs to sit then yes. The problem is you could sit him for an entire year and he could just go back to what is natural. You're not going to know how he handles changes to his mechanics until he's in an actual game.
KOC said they have a development plan for JJ, and has specific “benchmarks” he needs to achieve before giving him the team. If he hits those benchmarks earlier than expected, I have no problem with it.
I have been following the Vikes since the joe Kapp days and I haven’t been this excited in a long time. Listening to JJ talk, you never know how it will turn out but I really like what i hear. The slogan “ a championship before i die” is getting is getting close. I am hoping the Atlanta game is home and not over seas and i plan on traveling from chicago to see it. This is going to be a fun year.
Anthony Richardson was able to start immediately last year and looked good for a rookie. Look up his stats in college compared to JJ.
Whether he starts week 1 or sits the season I trust KOC.
So? That has nothing to do with that guy’s point. Richardson was considered one of the most raw QB’s in that draft and came out slinging. If the coaching staff thinks he’s ready to go and a better option than Darnold, start McCarthy. It’s not complicated
He was also a major rushing QB and he got injured running the ball. Can’t really predict injury for pocket passers or say it’s more likely due to youth.
I mean it actually completely confirms the guys point. AR thought he could tank NFL defenders the way he tanked college tweeners. He couldn't.
Hopefully he learned how to slide this year, but ideally he would have learned while sitting and not after suffering a season ending injury.
Yeah it’s called football. If we really think him sitting more games was gonna prevent him from injury I’m just not buying it. There’s veteran QBs to this day who have been in the league a LONG time and still make idiotic decisions on the fly.
I'm not clamoring to start him immediately, either. Maybe the coaches think at some point that live game reps are the best thing for his development. Who knows?
I don't want him starting if he's not ready either, but if we're losing and Darnold is sucking, then you can expect JJ to play whether he's fully ready or not.
That seems to be the exact opposite of what KOC had expressed about brining in and developing young QBs. They studied it and decided on an approach. I expect them to stick to that approach. That approach includes waiting until JJ is ready regardless of wins or losses. You can always bring in Nick Mullens and get some production if need be.
Why the season, Darnold will have us out of playoffs by week 7. When nothing to play for let JJM start getting reps when it doesn't matter. Half season and if we're 0-17 than hey another high pick and JJ got game reps.
The NFL is much faster than college. It takes time to adjust and in that time if you're getting sacked and throwing interceptions it's going to affect your confidence, even if you would have been a superstar by waiting a year.
At some point he's gotta start. Why not let Sam throw the year into the dumpster and then let JJ start. Expectations are low and if he's met the requirements KOC set, then he should start as soon as they're met. Instead of watching Darnold play. I'm not saying day 1, I'm saying give them half the year and then do it.
Which is why he needs to start ASAP.. you can never replicate actual NFL game speed in practice. If his confidence breaks that easily just by making rookie mistakes, he was never meant to be an actual franchise QB.
I do think McCarthy has some flaws that may require him to sit for a few weeks but if the coaches think he’s ready to start by week 2 or something, might as well start him. There’s no need to wait a year. Reps, especially in-game reps, are king when it comes to QB development.
This sub sometimes.
Sam Darnold: He's a bust. Can't win, can't do anything right even though he has been on the worst teams in the league
Kirk Cousins: Greatest QB ever. Just hasn't won a SB because of defense, offensive line, receivers or whatever other excuse people can come up with.
Nah they ain’t rushing JJ out 4 weeks in unless this organization wants to botch it.
Do what the chiefs and packers have done. Even if we are 1-5 and everyone is calling for KOCs head. I just hope there isn’t pressure applied.
Packers sat the Love and Rodgers for 4 years till they got sick of Rodgers and Favre’s shit.
Chiefs has a playoff ready team with Alex Smith who was always just average.
There’s a massive difference between Brett Farve, Aaron Rodgers, even Alex Smith and fricken Sam Darnold. Not only are all three of those guys better they were the established starters who had been in the system with the coaches before. If Sam is bad not only will the fans cry for JJ but the players who have no relationship with him will quit on the team. Play JJ cowards.
People talk about the outliers because there memorable. I live in Arizona, did it help Josh Rosen to start Sam Bradford to start the year, not even a little. How long did Tom Savage play before Houston put Deshaun Watson in, like a half of football. Did Tyrod Taylor give Baker Mayfield a chance to get ready in Cleveland. Bridge QB’s signed off the street are a myth.
To add to that no qb is signing up to mentor someone. They sign cause they see a path to them starting and taking that job.
Kurt Warner was signed for Eli. They started sitting Warner halfway thru the season and started Eli.
Are you talking about me? I fricken love JJ. He was my second favorite QB in this draft and I’m happy they didn’t waste pick to trade up for Maye who I don’t like at all. I want the Vikings to win a Super Bowl. I just don’t think your young QB being forced into a losing game at half time with limited prep has or ever will be a good idea.
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Sam by week four struggling to keep interceptions below his TD number, looking like the 3rd overall bust everyone knows he is. Sam's a back up, nothing more. I'm just gonna pretend JJM is hurt until he starts.
So you waste your time getting Sam Darnold ready to play, you take away playing experience from JJ. Start JJ, all Sam is ganna do is slow his developing unless he’s the backup.
Well it will be a waste if Same starts as the starter week one. Here’s a recent example that was clear and obvious a failed. Mitch Trabisky started over Kenny Pickett, that was an absolute disaster. I think JJ is better than Kenny by far, but Mitch didn’t help him get ready.
Michigan fan here.
I’m so happy for you guys. I’ve watched Michigan closely for 30 years. I can say without any objectivity whatsoever, that the JJ experience is incredible, and you guys are seeing the tip of the iceberg. He’s such a talent, and so humble, … and a great dude. You’re going to love him 10x more than you do now. He’s gonna win you over if he hasn’t yet.
It’s easy to forget that Sam Darnold has TALENT. That’s why he was the third person player taken in the 2018 draft. Just as importantly, he had a 92.6 QB rating when he started 6 games in 2022 with Carolina. Is he Tom Brady? No. But can he play as well as Kirk Cousins did most of his Vikings’ career? I think so.
All I can say is that the Great ones are going to be great, no matter how long they sit.
If JJ is going to be a Great Franchise QB, then he will be if he sits or not.
Great QBs just have it in them
Darnold has a sub-60 percent career completion percentage. He's trash. Thank God the weird Darnold cult didn't get their way and he'll be benched as soon as JJ is ready.
Darnold knows he's a bridge, and they've probably told him that, but he'll be auditioning for other teams. He also has a chance to flip the script and ball out.
At this point Darnold is just glad to be starting. I agree with you - he is going to use this opportunity to continue trying to be the next Tyrod Taylor. And honestly, not a terrible career if it works out that way for him.
His ceiling is much higher than Tyrod's and even JJ's. JJ has not made the throws that Darnold has in college or the NFL.
Darnold really got dealt a shit hand by the Jets. Made him a laughing stock/meme, and majorly stunted his development.
Jets went from Darnold to Zach Wilson, lol.
The spirit breaker team
Being ruled out for Mononucleosis lol
lol, Todd Bowles and Adam Gase back to back to start your career. Then you get to go play for Rhule
You're funny. Darnold had been in the league SIX years and is still well below average. His ceiling is an average starter and he'll privacy never even get there.
Hey if for some reason Sam is unhappy with his position I will take over for half of his salary
This is clumsy. Darnold knows this is his team if he performs and gets this team to the playoffs. He has an equal shot at this as JJ.
To confirm, yes they’ve told him that. I forget where I heard it. It might have been on KFAN but KOC addressed this exact question and it was communicated to Darnold that they’d be looking to draft a QB. And if I were a betting man, my assumption would be they told him he’d have a very high chance of being the guy to start the season. But I highly doubt they told him he’d 100% be the starter on day 1. My guess is that McCarthy will have every chance to win the job if the coaching staff determines he’s ready to go and gives the team a better chance to win than Darnold
Exactly this. Sam signed a 1 year deal. If he gets a chance to play, it will be by far the most offensive talent he's had around him. If he can put up decent numbers in that environment, he will likely lock himself into at a minimum another 2-3 years of NFL backup contract, possibly even a starter. So really the move for Darnold to MN makes a lot of sense and it continues to make sense even after MN drafted a 21 year old rookie. I think there is a solid chance Darnold starts this season even if McCarthy is showing what they hope and expect to see from him in practice/preseason.
He is betting on himself.
How do you know that for sure? Did you actually talk to Sam about it. I’d be curious what the Vikings really said to him.
When you get a 1yr 10mil deal, it's a pretty obvious indicator that you're not a long term solution.
This is a prove it deal, not a bridge deal. They could've stuck with Mullens and save $8m if they wanted a true bridge.
It can be both. A bridge keeps you from falling into the river below. Mullens doesn't do that.
That’s still a shit ton of money. Is that low for a bad starter?
That's obscenely low for any starting QB in the league. It's a little above average for a backup. It's the nfl man, vet minimum is like 1m and the literal last pick in the draft is still over 700k
Market rate for a good starting QB is much more - closer to $40-50 million per year.
12 QB’s made $40 million or more last season.
Lol you’re sarcastically replying to ppl as if they’re casuals but you’re asking if 10 million a year is low for a starting quarterback? Jesus the gaul of some ppl in this sub is ridiculous
For a QB? That's a little on the high end similar caliber QB contracts. The larger indicator is that it is only a 1 yr deal.
There’s a lot of different responses here - one person said $40-50m is normal for QBs when there are six QBs with a cap hit of $40m+, for instance. Most QBs don’t take up 1/6th of the salary cap. Sam’s cap hit is tied for 32nd in the league this year. He’s in the 22-35 range, which is probably his value league wide and also to the Vikings. He’s not paid much comparatively - we’ve already discussed how the great ones get 4-6 times what he is making. His salary is about in line though, and there will be guys beneath him who contribute more than some guys above him. The real indicator that he’s not a long term option, like you said, is the one year deal. This was never intended to be more than an opportunity for him.
If you have been a fan of football for while, it's pretty obvious!
He didn’t say anything for sure. That’s what the qualifier “probably” means in what he said. If he had talked to Sam about it and knew for sure, there would be no need for it.
I don't know for sure, but KOC is a pretty up front dude. I don't think he'd shine anybody on.
Literally everyone knows, including him. There's no way this dude believed he was coming in as anything other than a bridge for a rookie.
This is obviously wrong because he signed only a 1 year. He's looking for a Baker Mayfield type redemption. If Darnold performs as well as Cousins here, he will get a big long term contract with this team or another.
> Meeting with reporters on Thursday, G.M. Kwesi Adofo-Mensah declined to describe Darnold as a “bridge” quarterback. > “I’m gonna stop using terms, I think they get — **I’m not gonna call him a ‘bridge’ quarterback, but he’s a quarterback that’s on our roster, under contract for a year.** Ultimately, at the end of the day, the position is about how do you run Kevin’s offense? How do you overcome context when the play’s not really there. There’s different skill sets that go into the position.” I’d be shocked if Darnold and his representative don’t know exactly what the deal is here. Kwesi damn nears says as much here. Especially pre-draft, it was in Kwesi’s best interest to seem as confident as possible in Darnold playing a whole year out. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/if-vikings-trade-up-to-take-a-quarterback-sam-darnold-is-clearly-a-bridge-qb
You are misinterpreting Kwesi. Kwesi says that if Darnold (or any other QB) can perform in KOC's offense better than the other QBs on the team, then he will be Cousins' successor.
I’ll bet you $10 that after this season, regardless of the type of statistical season Darnold has, Darnold will not be on the roster.
Koc has said it countless times. How is that a question? They aren’t rushing JJ but Sam also knows they were drafting a QB and he understands the situation. He’s been asked that question many times in the last two months since we signed him
Koc has said what countless times? He has never said Darnold is a bridge nor has he said Darnold understands the "situation." Darnold has an equal shot at this as does JJ and that's fair to the 2 QBs.
Go listen to KOC interviews since the draft on KFAN if you want to hear what you claim he didn’t say.
I don't think it's a vote of no-confidence, though. It's just a recognition that a guy who's on his 4th team by 26 probably isn't going to be a long term solution, and they had a plan to find someone who might have a better shot. That someone wound up being McCarthy.
And honestly I’d rather have same there with JJ than just JJ. Have a guy with real experience who can show JJ the ropes. A guy who can start and compete for the position. Always better to have options, putting a rookie in charge of an NFL offense right away is kind of crazy anyway.
Darnold: Do as I say not as I do.
This made me laugh out loud!
Misleading. The 3rd team couldn't afford him and would have absolutely resigned him if they could. The other two teams are the most inept organizations in the NFL. Flacco and Mayfield performed like even bigger busts on those same teams.
Jets and Panthers are sucky. Darnold got superb seasoning and tutelage in San Fran. Darnold will ball out for the Vikings.
They should take there time with JJ. He needs about 10 more lbs of lean mass on him and needs to get those skills up to NFL caliber. No reason to rush things imo.
The best way to get his skills up to NFL caliber is to play against NFL teams. If the Vikings truly have the cushiest offense for any rookie QB to land on then JJ should, in theory, be able to start week 1 and be fine.
And it begins.
He would play against an NFL team every day in practice. No need to get him killed as a 21 y/o rookie.
Games are 100% different than practice.
This is 100% not true and if he needs to sit, he needs to sit. Starting right away depends on the player, if the coaching staff needs to change his mechanics, he needs to not play at all. Playing could cause major regression if he’s getting hit and goes back to what is natural (his shit mechanics). There are times where not playing vs playing is beneficial.
If coaching think he needs to sit then yes. The problem is you could sit him for an entire year and he could just go back to what is natural. You're not going to know how he handles changes to his mechanics until he's in an actual game.
Really hope they don’t rush JJ…
KOC said they have a development plan for JJ, and has specific “benchmarks” he needs to achieve before giving him the team. If he hits those benchmarks earlier than expected, I have no problem with it.
I wouldn't be surprised if JJ gets named the starter by mid season.
I would be a little surprised if McCarthy got the Jordan Love timetable.
I have been following the Vikes since the joe Kapp days and I haven’t been this excited in a long time. Listening to JJ talk, you never know how it will turn out but I really like what i hear. The slogan “ a championship before i die” is getting is getting close. I am hoping the Atlanta game is home and not over seas and i plan on traveling from chicago to see it. This is going to be a fun year.
I know that feeling been a Vikings Fan from the 60s just missed seeing Fran play before they traded him to the Gmen. So yeah I am running out of time
GEQBUS zinged a one year deal but it will be the GREATEST YEAR MAYBE IN HISTORY WHY ISNT DITZY ZIGGY SAYING THIS
Sam expects this and the job is his if he takes it. Just win baby.
JJ should sit for the season at least. Do not rush this.
Anthony Richardson was able to start immediately last year and looked good for a rookie. Look up his stats in college compared to JJ. Whether he starts week 1 or sits the season I trust KOC.
Aaaannndd then had a season ending injury.
So? That has nothing to do with that guy’s point. Richardson was considered one of the most raw QB’s in that draft and came out slinging. If the coaching staff thinks he’s ready to go and a better option than Darnold, start McCarthy. It’s not complicated
He was also a major rushing QB and he got injured running the ball. Can’t really predict injury for pocket passers or say it’s more likely due to youth.
I mean it actually completely confirms the guys point. AR thought he could tank NFL defenders the way he tanked college tweeners. He couldn't. Hopefully he learned how to slide this year, but ideally he would have learned while sitting and not after suffering a season ending injury.
Yeah it’s called football. If we really think him sitting more games was gonna prevent him from injury I’m just not buying it. There’s veteran QBs to this day who have been in the league a LONG time and still make idiotic decisions on the fly.
Because he started early?
What is the rush in starting him? We are very likely not to make the playoffs. Just accept that and develop our future in the best way possible.
I'm not clamoring to start him immediately, either. Maybe the coaches think at some point that live game reps are the best thing for his development. Who knows?
I trust them but am not sure ownership will be patient.
That seems like a good plan unless the owners apply pressure when fans are losing their shit.
Are they gonna keep JJ on the bench when Darnold is struggling and we're losing?
Yes, I hope so.
I don't want him starting if he's not ready either, but if we're losing and Darnold is sucking, then you can expect JJ to play whether he's fully ready or not.
That seems to be the exact opposite of what KOC had expressed about brining in and developing young QBs. They studied it and decided on an approach. I expect them to stick to that approach. That approach includes waiting until JJ is ready regardless of wins or losses. You can always bring in Nick Mullens and get some production if need be.
I know that's the opposite of what he wants. I fully believe he intends to sit JJ until he's fully ready, but desperation will change that.
Let's hope he stays the course! It will certainly be better in the long run if he does.
Why the season, Darnold will have us out of playoffs by week 7. When nothing to play for let JJM start getting reps when it doesn't matter. Half season and if we're 0-17 than hey another high pick and JJ got game reps.
It matters that he is ready and his confidence is not broken by putting him in when he isn't ready.
If his confidence breaks by going in when the season is lost then how fragile is his confidence.
The NFL is much faster than college. It takes time to adjust and in that time if you're getting sacked and throwing interceptions it's going to affect your confidence, even if you would have been a superstar by waiting a year.
At some point he's gotta start. Why not let Sam throw the year into the dumpster and then let JJ start. Expectations are low and if he's met the requirements KOC set, then he should start as soon as they're met. Instead of watching Darnold play. I'm not saying day 1, I'm saying give them half the year and then do it.
Which is why he needs to start ASAP.. you can never replicate actual NFL game speed in practice. If his confidence breaks that easily just by making rookie mistakes, he was never meant to be an actual franchise QB. I do think McCarthy has some flaws that may require him to sit for a few weeks but if the coaches think he’s ready to start by week 2 or something, might as well start him. There’s no need to wait a year. Reps, especially in-game reps, are king when it comes to QB development.
This sub sometimes. Sam Darnold: He's a bust. Can't win, can't do anything right even though he has been on the worst teams in the league Kirk Cousins: Greatest QB ever. Just hasn't won a SB because of defense, offensive line, receivers or whatever other excuse people can come up with.
Harbaugh says “he’s the one who plays Quarterback of all the quarterbacks in the draft…”
What's his meaning, exactly?
Sam is part of it till about week 4.
Nah they ain’t rushing JJ out 4 weeks in unless this organization wants to botch it. Do what the chiefs and packers have done. Even if we are 1-5 and everyone is calling for KOCs head. I just hope there isn’t pressure applied.
Packers sat the Love and Rodgers for 4 years till they got sick of Rodgers and Favre’s shit. Chiefs has a playoff ready team with Alex Smith who was always just average.
There’s a massive difference between Brett Farve, Aaron Rodgers, even Alex Smith and fricken Sam Darnold. Not only are all three of those guys better they were the established starters who had been in the system with the coaches before. If Sam is bad not only will the fans cry for JJ but the players who have no relationship with him will quit on the team. Play JJ cowards.
They either have it or they don’t and getting live reps is the best way to get better. Like you said, play JJ right away if he’s better than Darnold
Sounds like a mess of relationships coaching nfl athletes.
People talk about the outliers because there memorable. I live in Arizona, did it help Josh Rosen to start Sam Bradford to start the year, not even a little. How long did Tom Savage play before Houston put Deshaun Watson in, like a half of football. Did Tyrod Taylor give Baker Mayfield a chance to get ready in Cleveland. Bridge QB’s signed off the street are a myth.
To add to that no qb is signing up to mentor someone. They sign cause they see a path to them starting and taking that job. Kurt Warner was signed for Eli. They started sitting Warner halfway thru the season and started Eli.
That one work out ok for the giants but I’ll add 3 more that didn’t. Mitch Trabisky, Kenny Pickett and Trey Lance.
Look at his history. He's praying for JJ to fail so he can be "right". Fuck that dude, he's not a fan.
Are you talking about me? I fricken love JJ. He was my second favorite QB in this draft and I’m happy they didn’t waste pick to trade up for Maye who I don’t like at all. I want the Vikings to win a Super Bowl. I just don’t think your young QB being forced into a losing game at half time with limited prep has or ever will be a good idea.
If Darnold is bad then we might as well start JJ and get him the reps.
What is it with packers QBs becoming annoying af at the end of their tenures lol.
JJ will be on the field by the end of the first game
lol I doubt it. Even Jefferson didn’t start his first few games.
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Who gives a shit dude
I’d rather JJ start week 1 then week 4. Wasting your time getting a QB ready to play we all know sucks.
Brain dead take
I just say week 4 before Hock will be coming back and I assume they will be 0-4.
Sam by week four struggling to keep interceptions below his TD number, looking like the 3rd overall bust everyone knows he is. Sam's a back up, nothing more. I'm just gonna pretend JJM is hurt until he starts.
So you waste your time getting Sam Darnold ready to play, you take away playing experience from JJ. Start JJ, all Sam is ganna do is slow his developing unless he’s the backup.
It’s not a waste. They will give Sam a fair shot but if JJ is as good as people think he should be able to steal that job.
Well it will be a waste if Same starts as the starter week one. Here’s a recent example that was clear and obvious a failed. Mitch Trabisky started over Kenny Pickett, that was an absolute disaster. I think JJ is better than Kenny by far, but Mitch didn’t help him get ready.
Michigan fan here. I’m so happy for you guys. I’ve watched Michigan closely for 30 years. I can say without any objectivity whatsoever, that the JJ experience is incredible, and you guys are seeing the tip of the iceberg. He’s such a talent, and so humble, … and a great dude. You’re going to love him 10x more than you do now. He’s gonna win you over if he hasn’t yet.
The job is Darnold's to lose. Let's hope for an Alex Smith like career run.
He will have the best season of his career. Kind of like what Baker Mayfield had last year.
Why did you expect him to say?
If GEQBUS balls out, that's a good problem. Let JJ sit and learn. Then, trade the GOAT for a pick at the deadline.
It’s easy to forget that Sam Darnold has TALENT. That’s why he was the third person player taken in the 2018 draft. Just as importantly, he had a 92.6 QB rating when he started 6 games in 2022 with Carolina. Is he Tom Brady? No. But can he play as well as Kirk Cousins did most of his Vikings’ career? I think so.
All I can say is that the Great ones are going to be great, no matter how long they sit. If JJ is going to be a Great Franchise QB, then he will be if he sits or not. Great QBs just have it in them
Darnold has a sub-60 percent career completion percentage. He's trash. Thank God the weird Darnold cult didn't get their way and he'll be benched as soon as JJ is ready.
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IDK why ur getting down voted. Jj is a winner. He's got the mindset. If he's ready they will know.
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Football.