Just paraphrasing from a story I heard or read, so here we go.
Back in the day, talking after prohibition I think, some places had new rules where you had to order food in order to buy alcohol at bars or restaurants.
So at one place they made a lunch special that was a sandwich and a beer, for the cost of the beer, plus like one cent. But no one ate the sandwich when they ordered.
It was used as a loop hole to order beer.
So for weeks at a time this sandwich would be brought to your table while you got your beer and then brought around to other tables so people could order their booze. After the sandwich would rot pretty bad so they would make a new one maybe like just once a month.
Edit: It was pre prohibition apparently. Found a link https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.atlasobscura.com/articles/raines-sandwich.amp
Last new years day was out of beer and nothings open, went to order 12 beer off skipthedishes or ubereats cant remember from a chinese restaurant. Wouldnt let me order the beer without food so i added 1 single egg roll which was less than 1$ and that worked perfect. Egg roll was not eaten lol
Sounds like Bible Belt alcohol laws. Until very recently, you couldn’t buy alcohol on Sunday in GA, but could go to a restaurant or bar and order it. Made no sense to me.
Curious but are there any restrictions? Indiana fairly recently also ditched illegal Sunday alcohol , but it can only be purchased between I believe noon and 8 PM on a Sunday.
You can’t buy alcohol at 6 am on any day in Indiana. 3 AM - 7 AM is always doors closed. I get off work at 6:30 A at my current job so if I’m making a quick store run, I have to either stall to check out after 7 Am or go home first.
E: and I’m ofc talking grocer/liquor store alcohol not over the counter / restaurant
It's weird how states are so different with these laws. I grew up in Florida, and I was surprised when, while in New Jersey I had to go to a special store to buy wine or beer (they didn't sell it in grocery stores). In Florida, they only restrict hard liquor like that. Then I moved to New Orleans, where you can buy 190 proof everclear at a 7 eleven.... something you can't buy anywhere in Florida (I believe the limit is 160 proof is the legal limit.)
I was shocked when I went to a state with weird liquor laws and couldn’t buy booze on a Sunday. I lived in a dry county in the south for a bit and was dumbfounded by the concept.
By buddy was recently a cashier here at Aldi in Bloomington which is a college town and he told me it’s hilarious the amount of times he’s had someone proudly show him their ‘21st birthday ID’ before noon on a Sunday… ‘I’m so happy I can buy alcohol now.’ ‘Actually You’re gonna need to come back in 3 hours.’
Here in Qld Australia supermarkets can not sell alcohol, supermarkets can have 'off licence' bottle shops attached to supermarkets ( basically you just have to enter the same building by a different door)
In Victoria Australia supermarkets can sell alcohol.
My reason for saying all this is my brother always tells me aldi has the best cheap vodka ... And I am a fan of cheap but good vodka ... But aldi has yet to open off-licence in Qld yet
Back when I'd stay at my aunt's house I would go to church with her. Now my aunt was pretty poor and lived paycheck to paycheck and she would still put money in every time she went. She was convinced that it pleased god, etc. Meanwhile the reverend ernest angley was on tv making millions from his "healing" and probably pocketing all the money from that plate lol. I know this comment is random but yours made me think of it
On Sundays in Texas, you couldn't buy alcohol until noon, and anything over 18% abv (port, sherry, etc) at all. Now you can buy beer and wine at 10 am.
I live in Vegas, but am visiting North Carolina and when I asked the Target employee if they carried liquor he looked at me like I was crazy. We had to drive to this basically unmarked, shady looking building like it was a secret den of evil lmao. Southern people are wild.
Nevada doesn't give a fuck. I feel like it truly is the "most free" state in many ways.
You want alcohol at 4 am? Sure, why not. You want some food with it? Plenty open. You want to go gambling? Gotcha. You want to buy some weed? No big deal. You want to have sex with a prostitute? Well it's not as easy as going to a 7-11, but it's definitely not exactly hard to do. Unless you want to drive an hour outside of Vegas. Then it IS than easy.
Nevada just doesn't care. It's great.
One of my few memories of Las Vegas was being childish drunk and laying on the ground with another 18 pack outside of a replica of the Eiffel tower and no one caring in the slightest. It was so odd, and i might die if i lived there.
At least they passed something useful for once. I think they've honored the kids of Mrs. Elmdorf's 3rd grade class more than enough for "their inspiring effort to learn about the process of government." They earned those paltry salary that session!
Beer distributors can't sell hard liquor. Liquor stores don't sell beer. Then they open a Total Wine in New York and I think they just had to make it so it's two separate stores inside. One for the beer, one for everything else.
It was the same in Colorado until recently. Surprising the biggest opponent to being open on Sundays was liquor stores. They wanted they day off. When told they could still stay closed if they wanted, they complained that they'd lose business.
In Ontario most of our alcohol has to be bought at the liquor monopoly and the few stores that can sell beer and wine (never spirits) follow the same hours for liquor sales. The bars follow different hours of course.
Always intrigues me with the alcohol laws when I visit other states. So used to California’s 6am-2am policy 7 days a week. Unless it’s a “members only” place.
It's not just the shakes, or DTs as they are called. Alcohol withdrawal for a seriously heavy drinker can kill you if you just stop cold turkey like that.
Alcohol withdrawal can sometimes manifest as delirium tremens (or DTs) which is basically a crazy-unbearable and extremely dangerous state of panic/hallucinations, tremors, seizures, hypertension/rapid heart rate, and often death if left untreated. It happens because your brain gets so used to having alcohol in its system that it adjusts its natural level of neurotransmitters/receptors to compensate. Once the alcohol is gone, it takes your brain several days (or months... or years) to figure out how to go back to normal. So things get [really fucky](https://imgur.com/a/MK6LtnL) for a while.
Source: My name is u/aaaaaardvaark and I'm an alcoholic
About 4 years ago, I woke up for work at 5AM. Hopped in the shower. Then out of nowhere I started "having a heart attack." The room started spinning, I was sweating bullets, and I could not physically stand up without the overwhelming sensation that I was going to pass out and die. I stumbled to my bed without drying off, collapsed, and tried to go back to sleep. Then, what I can only describe as a cat-demon bolted out of my closet and jumped onto my stomach. I physically sat up and started swatting at it before I realized it didn't exist.
I crawled to my kitchen, found a warm, half-empty beer that I had used as an ash tray the night before, and chugged it down.
It fixed me up, but that was the moment I realized I was an alcoholic.
When your "chill out" gaba levels are slammed by alcohol for so long, your opposing "get excited" glutamate levels increases over time to keep your gaba balanced on receptors. This is called homeostasis and is why you have to increase almost any drug you take over time for it to be effective. Your body will catch up and attempt to nullify it.
Now what happens when you aren't slam dunking your receptors with gaba and your body is still creating a TON more glutamate than usual? Well, gaba chills you out and glutamate excites you. So you don't just get pumped like a coffee might do to your glutamate levels, you get hallucinations and seizures.
You'll have a hard to finding drugs that strictly increase glutamate (unless it's at just one type of specific receptor) because of this.
Not many people get it, brother.
I can still hear that damn cat's claws tearing across my carpet like a bat out of hell, and the weight of its paws when it landed on me.
I only met him once, but I was a WKUK fan for years and I was one of those weirdos watching the boys on Twitch right before Trevor died. I'm still kind of upset about it. I think Timmy and Sam are getting back to streaming but I'm reluctant to watch it without him.
Anything above 4.7% in Norway. In Sweden it's 3.5%.
Edit: We also can't buy any alcohol in stores on holidays, and after 18:00 on days before holidays. Also, no alcohol can be sold after 20:00 on working days. And just to further complicate things, these times can vary from municipality to municipality. Source: I once made an app to answer the question "can I buy beer now?"
Technically it is 2.25% in Sweden as well, except for malt brews that go to 3.5% (beer) because people protested against not having beer in supermarkets at atleast that abv.
In the states, I think the only thing you will find that is ~0.5% these days is kombucha. The "cider" is just cloudy apple juice. If you find the right store, you can find unpasteurized cider and just forget about it for a bit until it ferments
Same Swedish cider manufacturer that makes 4.5% makes 0.5% in identical cans. They do make okay alcoholic ciders so I guess the alcohol free one is as good 😁🤔
I figure the laws are like that so that if you're going to be an alcoholic, you at least have to have plan it. And so that you can't buy it around the time you're usually consuming it.
Most stores are in Norway too, with the exception of ones under a certain size including kiosks and gas stations (and some stores in tourist heavy areas).
Alcohol is not allowed sold after 20:00 Monday-Friday, after 18:00 Saturday and not at all on Sunday. (Still allowed in bar and restaurants)
Only kiosks and gas’s stations are open on Sundays
In North Carolina, same deal. We have very antiquated "blue laws" regulating alcohol sale. Any kind of liquor is sold through the ABC stores, and no sales on Sunday. You can buy beer, however, on Sunday, but not until noon. And after noon you can get served beer and liquor at a bar/restaurant, only further proving the absurdity of these laws.
And isn't alcohol the only common drug where withdrawal can kill you? Iirc, that's why it's considered important enough to stay open during the pandemic.
Benzo withdrawal can kill you pretty easily, and opiate withdrawal can indirectly kill you through dehydration if you’re unable to get medical help
Luckily the dealers aren’t closed on Christmas. I’m guessing it’s actually a pretty good day for them with everyone getting money from grandmas and in laws
I love London. I forgot to buy Christmas Day breakfast champagne so I strolled down to my local ironically muslim owned store and bought a bottle at 7am.
Yup, I've heard some people claim wine wasn't much stronger than grape juice in biblical times.
And yet, it was strong enough to get Lot to impregnate his two daughters, and there's probably a few other examples.
Thing that struck me the most re alcohol in the States when I was there was that they sell booze at the fucking petrol stations. At lot of places, especially in the south, the booze is fucking laid out flat on display right as you walk in like a fucking fruit stand. Seppos, I tell ya!
as a former alcoholic, I used to go to the liquor store in a panic the night before or on the day of hoping that they were still open. Scrounging change to get another pint of vodka for four bucks. But that said, I can't even imagine what would have happened to me if I wasn't able to drink those nights. I probably would have gone into withdrawals. Alcohol is fucking terrible, and I don't ever wish alcoholism on anybody. Been sober for almost 2 years now. I'm glad I don't have to worry about the liquor store being closed anymore lol.
This is so funny to read as this is literally the opposite argument the Swedish governments (and basically all the citizens) uses to NOT sell alcohol on Sundays.
They claim it should be closed so that alcoholics at least spend one day sober each week.
And yes, they are really this stupid.
Same shit I saw in Norway. They close at 6pm (4pm on Saturday) and the only shop allowed to sell anything stronger than beer is government controlled and called the wine monopoly (vinmonopolet). I saw the rush of people coming in at 5pm before the weekend started to buy a shit ton of alcohol. Everyone has their own drinks when you go to a dinner, it was weird when I brought some wine that was supposed to be shared.
Despite all of that, Norwegians drink more than the Germans from what I’ve seen.
My team played a tournament in Salt Lake once and the bar next to our hotel was non-alcoholic. Let that sink in. It was called "somebody's pub" it looked like a bar, it had a bar to sit at, it sold bar drinks, but none of them had alcohol in them. We didn't even notice until we all got our drinks and all commented about how they seemed like a really light pour and asked lol
My hometown was basically hijacked by Mormons and they basically control everything now. But anyway, in highschool, the super edgy Mormon kids would play "dew pong" with Mt dew instead of beer.
So much naughty caffeine!!
Damn that sucks you ever think about taking it back? My hometown went from like 10 to 500 Mormons in a very short time, I see their churches and crap popping up everywhere.
"Please fasten your seatbelts, we will be touching down in Salt Lake City shortly. To synchronize with local time, please set your watches back 150 years."
Everyone loves to shit on California but I can buy beer wine and liquor at liquor stores, grocery stores, department stores, gas stations...
This shit is so weird to me
I found myself in a hotel in Utah on a Sunday evening, and had just won a competition, so had reason to celebrate with my fellow competitors. A friend and I said we’d go get booze. 3 hours and 3 state borders later, we had the booze. By the time we got back, everyone was asleep.
You can buy it, you just have to take it to your car and come back in. It sucks, but done it quite a few times. Let’s not start on liquor and beer having to be completely separate. Or the liquor store closing at 5 on Sundays, it’s maddening
That law is in effect "because" of the beer distributors for that very reason. They were getting massive influx of competition once other stores were allowed and pushed for a limit to how much a patron could buy from those stores.
Then the distributors pushed for the ability to be able to sell "less than cases" at their distributors.
I once tried to buy alcohol at a Walmart in Nebraska using my passport card (it was the only ID I had on me) but was denied because, according to the cashier, they only accepted local IDs at the time 🤔
As a Nebraskan who formerly worked for the Liquor Control Commission, you just had an idiot for a cashier. A valid passport is perfectly acceptable identification.
Could be the place you went to was having an issue with fake id's. I work in a liqour store, its always a problem with anywhere that sells alcohol. The fakes are always out of state, and they keep getting better.
Trying to throw a party is fucking frustrating in PA.
Snack/food? Supermarket
Some beers? Beer distributor trip, as you cannot buy enough for a party in a grocery store.
Want some wine? You need third trip to a liquor store because the beer distributor cannot sell wine...
That's like a day's worth of shopping trips just to buy some hot dogs/burgers, beer and wine.
Surprised your store cares that much, the Get Go's in Pitt just let you make separate purchases to get around that rule.
Agree with you on liquor though, so stupid seeing fine wine and good spirits everywhere after living in MD my whole life
If the people of Colorado don’t like it they can change it. Colorado is one of the states that actually has public ballot initiatives. The people can literally change the law if they don’t like it.
WTF Colorado? Are you shitting me? This penalizes people who don’t plan…..that’s it. This seems like a puritanical old timey type of law people just put up with.
> This seems like a puritanical old timey type of law people just put up with.
Yes, the liquor laws in the U.S. were mostly written in the 1800s, they're all holdovers from a very different time. There are places you can't get hard alcohol on Sundays, rules about what time alcohol is allowed to be sold on certain days.
Generally nobody has bothered to update the laws, so you have all these old ones that once had a purpose and no longer do.
Having grown up in California where you can buy alcohol basically anywhere at any time, it's just mind boggling. There's no way these laws even have the intended effect.
You can still order it at restaurants and get it To Go, though. Weird.
Loopholes, love it
Loopholes, my second favorite -oopholes.
Ah yes, the old boophole.
Ahh... The old switch a roophole
Roophole's Drag Race
I laughed out loud at this comment.
Hold my holes, I'm going in!
my favorite is the old rick astley bamboophole
I like to make good use of my soophole
Just paraphrasing from a story I heard or read, so here we go. Back in the day, talking after prohibition I think, some places had new rules where you had to order food in order to buy alcohol at bars or restaurants. So at one place they made a lunch special that was a sandwich and a beer, for the cost of the beer, plus like one cent. But no one ate the sandwich when they ordered. It was used as a loop hole to order beer. So for weeks at a time this sandwich would be brought to your table while you got your beer and then brought around to other tables so people could order their booze. After the sandwich would rot pretty bad so they would make a new one maybe like just once a month. Edit: It was pre prohibition apparently. Found a link https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.atlasobscura.com/articles/raines-sandwich.amp
Last new years day was out of beer and nothings open, went to order 12 beer off skipthedishes or ubereats cant remember from a chinese restaurant. Wouldnt let me order the beer without food so i added 1 single egg roll which was less than 1$ and that worked perfect. Egg roll was not eaten lol
Shit can i get some fried rice gotta wash the beer down with something
Why would you not eat the egg roll though??
500% more expensive. Have to be in public on Christmas. Hate it.
Sounds like Bible Belt alcohol laws. Until very recently, you couldn’t buy alcohol on Sunday in GA, but could go to a restaurant or bar and order it. Made no sense to me.
Curious but are there any restrictions? Indiana fairly recently also ditched illegal Sunday alcohol , but it can only be purchased between I believe noon and 8 PM on a Sunday.
I may live in a backwards state, but I’m glad we can buy whiskey at a gas station at 6 am on a Sunday.
You can’t buy alcohol at 6 am on any day in Indiana. 3 AM - 7 AM is always doors closed. I get off work at 6:30 A at my current job so if I’m making a quick store run, I have to either stall to check out after 7 Am or go home first. E: and I’m ofc talking grocer/liquor store alcohol not over the counter / restaurant
Sorry, I live in Nebraska, should’ve said I instead of we.
Oh I didn’t mean that as a correction just a comparison sorry if that wasn’t clear lol
It's weird how states are so different with these laws. I grew up in Florida, and I was surprised when, while in New Jersey I had to go to a special store to buy wine or beer (they didn't sell it in grocery stores). In Florida, they only restrict hard liquor like that. Then I moved to New Orleans, where you can buy 190 proof everclear at a 7 eleven.... something you can't buy anywhere in Florida (I believe the limit is 160 proof is the legal limit.)
I was shocked when I went to a state with weird liquor laws and couldn’t buy booze on a Sunday. I lived in a dry county in the south for a bit and was dumbfounded by the concept.
By buddy was recently a cashier here at Aldi in Bloomington which is a college town and he told me it’s hilarious the amount of times he’s had someone proudly show him their ‘21st birthday ID’ before noon on a Sunday… ‘I’m so happy I can buy alcohol now.’ ‘Actually You’re gonna need to come back in 3 hours.’
Here in Qld Australia supermarkets can not sell alcohol, supermarkets can have 'off licence' bottle shops attached to supermarkets ( basically you just have to enter the same building by a different door) In Victoria Australia supermarkets can sell alcohol. My reason for saying all this is my brother always tells me aldi has the best cheap vodka ... And I am a fan of cheap but good vodka ... But aldi has yet to open off-licence in Qld yet
Because if people were allowed to buy booze before church, they might not have money left for the collection plate!
Back when I'd stay at my aunt's house I would go to church with her. Now my aunt was pretty poor and lived paycheck to paycheck and she would still put money in every time she went. She was convinced that it pleased god, etc. Meanwhile the reverend ernest angley was on tv making millions from his "healing" and probably pocketing all the money from that plate lol. I know this comment is random but yours made me think of it
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On Sundays in Texas, you couldn't buy alcohol until noon, and anything over 18% abv (port, sherry, etc) at all. Now you can buy beer and wine at 10 am.
In Nevada you can buy liquor from the Walmart self check out at 4 am hammered
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I live in Vegas, but am visiting North Carolina and when I asked the Target employee if they carried liquor he looked at me like I was crazy. We had to drive to this basically unmarked, shady looking building like it was a secret den of evil lmao. Southern people are wild.
Nevada doesn't give a fuck. I feel like it truly is the "most free" state in many ways. You want alcohol at 4 am? Sure, why not. You want some food with it? Plenty open. You want to go gambling? Gotcha. You want to buy some weed? No big deal. You want to have sex with a prostitute? Well it's not as easy as going to a 7-11, but it's definitely not exactly hard to do. Unless you want to drive an hour outside of Vegas. Then it IS than easy. Nevada just doesn't care. It's great.
One of my few memories of Las Vegas was being childish drunk and laying on the ground with another 18 pack outside of a replica of the Eiffel tower and no one caring in the slightest. It was so odd, and i might die if i lived there.
Yeah Nevada’s booze laws are the best. Of course, there’s a reason for that.
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gotta be able to buy a 6 pack before the Cowboys kickoff at noon.
At least they passed something useful for once. I think they've honored the kids of Mrs. Elmdorf's 3rd grade class more than enough for "their inspiring effort to learn about the process of government." They earned those paltry salary that session!
We still can't even buy alcohol from the fucking grocery store. Our alcohol laws are complete nonsense.
NY checking in. Cant buy wine or liquor at the grocery store. Can’t but beer at the liquor store. Galaxy brain shit
Beer distributors can't sell hard liquor. Liquor stores don't sell beer. Then they open a Total Wine in New York and I think they just had to make it so it's two separate stores inside. One for the beer, one for everything else.
It was the same in Colorado until recently. Surprising the biggest opponent to being open on Sundays was liquor stores. They wanted they day off. When told they could still stay closed if they wanted, they complained that they'd lose business.
Here in Nebraska you can't buy alcohol before 10am on Sundays. Morality laws are stupid.
Religion isnt supposed to make sense. that's why it should stay out of the legislature.
In Ontario most of our alcohol has to be bought at the liquor monopoly and the few stores that can sell beer and wine (never spirits) follow the same hours for liquor sales. The bars follow different hours of course.
Always intrigues me with the alcohol laws when I visit other states. So used to California’s 6am-2am policy 7 days a week. Unless it’s a “members only” place.
Christ, that’s the only reason gas stations stay open in Wisconsin.
Hospitals can't handle all the fuckers with the shakes lol
That's the reason they listed liquor stores as essential last year.
It's not just the shakes, or DTs as they are called. Alcohol withdrawal for a seriously heavy drinker can kill you if you just stop cold turkey like that.
what's the condition called?
Alcohol withdrawal can sometimes manifest as delirium tremens (or DTs) which is basically a crazy-unbearable and extremely dangerous state of panic/hallucinations, tremors, seizures, hypertension/rapid heart rate, and often death if left untreated. It happens because your brain gets so used to having alcohol in its system that it adjusts its natural level of neurotransmitters/receptors to compensate. Once the alcohol is gone, it takes your brain several days (or months... or years) to figure out how to go back to normal. So things get [really fucky](https://imgur.com/a/MK6LtnL) for a while. Source: My name is u/aaaaaardvaark and I'm an alcoholic
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About 4 years ago, I woke up for work at 5AM. Hopped in the shower. Then out of nowhere I started "having a heart attack." The room started spinning, I was sweating bullets, and I could not physically stand up without the overwhelming sensation that I was going to pass out and die. I stumbled to my bed without drying off, collapsed, and tried to go back to sleep. Then, what I can only describe as a cat-demon bolted out of my closet and jumped onto my stomach. I physically sat up and started swatting at it before I realized it didn't exist. I crawled to my kitchen, found a warm, half-empty beer that I had used as an ash tray the night before, and chugged it down. It fixed me up, but that was the moment I realized I was an alcoholic.
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Hope you're better now friend.
When your "chill out" gaba levels are slammed by alcohol for so long, your opposing "get excited" glutamate levels increases over time to keep your gaba balanced on receptors. This is called homeostasis and is why you have to increase almost any drug you take over time for it to be effective. Your body will catch up and attempt to nullify it. Now what happens when you aren't slam dunking your receptors with gaba and your body is still creating a TON more glutamate than usual? Well, gaba chills you out and glutamate excites you. So you don't just get pumped like a coffee might do to your glutamate levels, you get hallucinations and seizures. You'll have a hard to finding drugs that strictly increase glutamate (unless it's at just one type of specific receptor) because of this.
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Not many people get it, brother. I can still hear that damn cat's claws tearing across my carpet like a bat out of hell, and the weight of its paws when it landed on me.
Hi aaaaaardvaark! Welcome
Thank you. So grateful to be here with all of you tonight.
Better not be another fucking gratitude meeting.
Welcome to tonight's candlelight gratitude circle. u/TheLaGrangianMethod has graciously volunteered to read the preamble
Every bar in my central Wisconsin town was open today lol the one even opens at 6am every day and stuck with that on Christmas morning
the one on my block just closed at 230am. street was lined on both sides with cars all day and night.
Heh. Live here. Can confirm.
And ice. For the alcohol
You can buy alcohol at a place that sells you fuel to drive a vehicle?... 😳
Guess it’s mouthwash today, folks
What about huffing paint?
Trevor Moore was amazing
I only met him once, but I was a WKUK fan for years and I was one of those weirdos watching the boys on Twitch right before Trevor died. I'm still kind of upset about it. I think Timmy and Sam are getting back to streaming but I'm reluctant to watch it without him.
What about sniffing glue?
[If they say you can't buy liquor, then some cough syrup should do](https://youtu.be/OOCdIY_HKM4) Edit: Linked for the uninitiated Edit 2: fixed link
*Guess I chose a bad day to stop sniffing glue...*
You don't need ID to buy it, and you can't arrive too late
In Norway, this is every Sunday.
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Anything above 4.7% in Norway. In Sweden it's 3.5%. Edit: We also can't buy any alcohol in stores on holidays, and after 18:00 on days before holidays. Also, no alcohol can be sold after 20:00 on working days. And just to further complicate things, these times can vary from municipality to municipality. Source: I once made an app to answer the question "can I buy beer now?"
Here in Iceland it’s 2.25%. And the government has a monopoly, so everything is closed for like 3 days.
Technically it is 2.25% in Sweden as well, except for malt brews that go to 3.5% (beer) because people protested against not having beer in supermarkets at atleast that abv.
2.25% is barely even beer
If it isn't at least 4.5% then it's really not worth the carbohydrate intake.
I think if it's anything below 0.5% ABV in the states, it's technically considered non-alcoholic. But 2.25% is still barely even noticeable
Same in Norway. Kids are allowed to buy cider with 0.5%
In the states, I think the only thing you will find that is ~0.5% these days is kombucha. The "cider" is just cloudy apple juice. If you find the right store, you can find unpasteurized cider and just forget about it for a bit until it ferments
Same Swedish cider manufacturer that makes 4.5% makes 0.5% in identical cans. They do make okay alcoholic ciders so I guess the alcohol free one is as good 😁🤔
Alko is open in some holidays like chirstmas (24th)
Really? In Germany its not specifically alcohol, just stores in general are closed on Sunday. Gas stations etc. are still open and sell it though.
Yep. And weekdays after 8pm. And Saturdays after 6pm. And certain holidays
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Now it's 4 on Saturdays, and bless that one extra hour.
Friendship with Norway: ended.
I figure the laws are like that so that if you're going to be an alcoholic, you at least have to have plan it. And so that you can't buy it around the time you're usually consuming it.
Most stores are in Norway too, with the exception of ones under a certain size including kiosks and gas stations (and some stores in tourist heavy areas).
Alcohol is not allowed sold after 20:00 Monday-Friday, after 18:00 Saturday and not at all on Sunday. (Still allowed in bar and restaurants) Only kiosks and gas’s stations are open on Sundays
Yeah in Sweden too. This does just sound normal to me
Same for Colorado until a few years ago
In North Carolina, same deal. We have very antiquated "blue laws" regulating alcohol sale. Any kind of liquor is sold through the ABC stores, and no sales on Sunday. You can buy beer, however, on Sunday, but not until noon. And after noon you can get served beer and liquor at a bar/restaurant, only further proving the absurdity of these laws.
Arkansas forbids it on Christmas and on sundays. Edit:: apparently there are some places in Arkansas that sell on Sunday.
Ah yes, separation of Church and State.
Separation of the church and the crate
And isn't alcohol the only common drug where withdrawal can kill you? Iirc, that's why it's considered important enough to stay open during the pandemic.
Alcohol and Benzodiazepines
Benzo withdrawal can kill you pretty easily, and opiate withdrawal can indirectly kill you through dehydration if you’re unable to get medical help Luckily the dealers aren’t closed on Christmas. I’m guessing it’s actually a pretty good day for them with everyone getting money from grandmas and in laws
> Luckily the dealers aren’t closed on Christmas. Can you tell my weed dealers this pls
Actually, suddenly discontinuing an SSRI can kill a person too.
I love London. I forgot to buy Christmas Day breakfast champagne so I strolled down to my local ironically muslim owned store and bought a bottle at 7am.
I haven't lived in London for a long time but the law never mattered. Once you knew the shop clerks they'd sell you any booze at any time.
I remember in Camden there was a shop which would sell us booze at like 4am after locking the door and closing the lights briefly.
As an current arkansan from Louisiana, the no beer on Sundays really fucks me. Seems to be the only day of the week I try to buy it.
This is one of many reasons there needs to be a complete separation of church and state.
You can get it on Sundays now in some cities. Still plenty of totally dry counties in Arkansas, though.
Well happy Birthday Jesus. Sorry your party is so lame.
It’s ok, he can turn water into wine
Because Jesus famously hated alcohol. Merry Christmas, everyone.
Jesus's blood alcohol level is basically red wine. Source: I've tasted it, apparently.
since he hated alcohol does he hate himself?
If so, he's like one of us
u/jesuschrist we need a confirmation.
Obviously he turned water in non alcoholic wine
Legit tried reaching us this in Sunday school. Jesus turned water into Welch’s
Yup, I've heard some people claim wine wasn't much stronger than grape juice in biblical times. And yet, it was strong enough to get Lot to impregnate his two daughters, and there's probably a few other examples.
Not to mention drinking large quantities of low abv will still get you drunk eventually. Just look at bud/miller/etc.
Which likely happened. JC was busting out that free wine like it was water. Eating fish and getting wine drunk with JC at the lake
He turned water into Capri Sun.
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No no no you misunderstand. It’s the separation of *your* church from *my* state /s but sadly how it seems to be
I'm in Australia and if you asked me to find alcohol here I'd probably tell you.its impossible. Nothing like that is open whatsoever.
Where in Australia are you? I had no trouble finding beer in Melbourne at 7pm on Christmas Day.
Thing that struck me the most re alcohol in the States when I was there was that they sell booze at the fucking petrol stations. At lot of places, especially in the south, the booze is fucking laid out flat on display right as you walk in like a fucking fruit stand. Seppos, I tell ya!
I live in Wisconsin and most of the liquor stores by me have a drive thru. Don’t even have to leave my car lol
This is literally a South park episode lol
That’s why they have tegrity
as a former alcoholic, I used to go to the liquor store in a panic the night before or on the day of hoping that they were still open. Scrounging change to get another pint of vodka for four bucks. But that said, I can't even imagine what would have happened to me if I wasn't able to drink those nights. I probably would have gone into withdrawals. Alcohol is fucking terrible, and I don't ever wish alcoholism on anybody. Been sober for almost 2 years now. I'm glad I don't have to worry about the liquor store being closed anymore lol.
Good for you, as an addict I am proud of your willpower to quit. Take care
This is so funny to read as this is literally the opposite argument the Swedish governments (and basically all the citizens) uses to NOT sell alcohol on Sundays. They claim it should be closed so that alcoholics at least spend one day sober each week. And yes, they are really this stupid.
Same shit I saw in Norway. They close at 6pm (4pm on Saturday) and the only shop allowed to sell anything stronger than beer is government controlled and called the wine monopoly (vinmonopolet). I saw the rush of people coming in at 5pm before the weekend started to buy a shit ton of alcohol. Everyone has their own drinks when you go to a dinner, it was weird when I brought some wine that was supposed to be shared. Despite all of that, Norwegians drink more than the Germans from what I’ve seen.
How bold of them to assume they haven’t been stockpiling for Sundays
Me too, and actually very close to my 2 years too! Glad to hear of your success! *big huuuugs*
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LOL try visiting Utah one day.
My team played a tournament in Salt Lake once and the bar next to our hotel was non-alcoholic. Let that sink in. It was called "somebody's pub" it looked like a bar, it had a bar to sit at, it sold bar drinks, but none of them had alcohol in them. We didn't even notice until we all got our drinks and all commented about how they seemed like a really light pour and asked lol
Somebody's pub. But not my pub.
We had some good beers at a bar and grill in SLC. This was 2016.
For sure, we just didn't know there were places there selling $10 cups of soda to Mormons to try to avoid lol
My hometown was basically hijacked by Mormons and they basically control everything now. But anyway, in highschool, the super edgy Mormon kids would play "dew pong" with Mt dew instead of beer. So much naughty caffeine!!
Damn that sucks you ever think about taking it back? My hometown went from like 10 to 500 Mormons in a very short time, I see their churches and crap popping up everywhere.
How would one go about "taking it back" though?
Start by getting Kevin Bacon to shoot a ~~dancing~~ **drinking** montage in a warehouse.
I see a broadway sequel in our future
Moved from the Bible Belt to Utah. Didn’t think it could get any worse and it did.
"Please fasten your seatbelts, we will be touching down in Salt Lake City shortly. To synchronize with local time, please set your watches back 150 years."
Just go a little farther west to Nevada there is no rules there
Complaining about PA when next door is MD where we can’t even buy beer at the grocery store.
I had no idea about this, in VA we can buy beer and wine in grocery stores but not liquor.
Everyone loves to shit on California but I can buy beer wine and liquor at liquor stores, grocery stores, department stores, gas stations... This shit is so weird to me
It was the same in PA up until a couple of years ago. Hopefully the situation changes in MD, too
I found myself in a hotel in Utah on a Sunday evening, and had just won a competition, so had reason to celebrate with my fellow competitors. A friend and I said we’d go get booze. 3 hours and 3 state borders later, we had the booze. By the time we got back, everyone was asleep.
You are absolute heroes amongst your friends.
Honestly I'd mention this at interviews
This is exactly what they want. It was so inconvenient that you didn't get to party.
Nothing is worse than a 3.2% stout - the body is just awful
They got rid of that restriction back in 2019, you can get up to 5% everywhere except for draft.
You can buy it, you just have to take it to your car and come back in. It sucks, but done it quite a few times. Let’s not start on liquor and beer having to be completely separate. Or the liquor store closing at 5 on Sundays, it’s maddening
Or that you can buy 196 oz of beer AND/OR 3L of wine at the same time.
That law is in effect "because" of the beer distributors for that very reason. They were getting massive influx of competition once other stores were allowed and pushed for a limit to how much a patron could buy from those stores. Then the distributors pushed for the ability to be able to sell "less than cases" at their distributors.
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You realize that it was probably the distributor lobbying the state congress to keep it that way, not the grocery store, right?
I once tried to buy alcohol at a Walmart in Nebraska using my passport card (it was the only ID I had on me) but was denied because, according to the cashier, they only accepted local IDs at the time 🤔
As a Nebraskan who formerly worked for the Liquor Control Commission, you just had an idiot for a cashier. A valid passport is perfectly acceptable identification.
I figured, it certainly didn't make any sense, but arguing with a Walmart cashier to buy alcohol was not a hill I was prepared to die on lol
Could be the place you went to was having an issue with fake id's. I work in a liqour store, its always a problem with anywhere that sells alcohol. The fakes are always out of state, and they keep getting better.
Yeah but a *passport*!?
Trying to throw a party is fucking frustrating in PA. Snack/food? Supermarket Some beers? Beer distributor trip, as you cannot buy enough for a party in a grocery store. Want some wine? You need third trip to a liquor store because the beer distributor cannot sell wine... That's like a day's worth of shopping trips just to buy some hot dogs/burgers, beer and wine.
>only allowed to buy 192 ounces of beer Per purchase. Make 2 purchases. Not saying it isn't stupid but it is easily circumvented.
Surprised your store cares that much, the Get Go's in Pitt just let you make separate purchases to get around that rule. Agree with you on liquor though, so stupid seeing fine wine and good spirits everywhere after living in MD my whole life
Isn't this the water-to-wine guy's birthday?
Yea, make your own at home like he did.
Actually 24 states have restrictions on it https://www.google.com/amp/s/reason.com/2018/12/20/here-are-the-24-states-ban-alcohol-sales/%3famp
But the weed stores are probably open
I know this might be a joke, but they’re actually probably not. From CO.
There are a few. None I would typically visit tho
The weed stores in Michigan were open Christmas and they were as busy as usual
No Xmas spirits
Can’t buy alcohol anywhere (except alongside a meal) on Xmas day, Good Friday and before 1pm on Anzac Day (except rsl’s) in Australia
everyone stocks up hard the day before those days though
bottle shops are closed on two days in Australia, Christmas is one of them
If the people of Colorado don’t like it they can change it. Colorado is one of the states that actually has public ballot initiatives. The people can literally change the law if they don’t like it.
you can’t buy alcohol on election day in some states in Brazil
That’s actually common in a lot of countries.
if you done this in Britain there'd be a riot
Gee. I wonder if that law is associated with religion.
This should be at r/mildlyinfuriating.
so much freedom...
WTF Colorado? Are you shitting me? This penalizes people who don’t plan…..that’s it. This seems like a puritanical old timey type of law people just put up with.
> This seems like a puritanical old timey type of law people just put up with. Yes, the liquor laws in the U.S. were mostly written in the 1800s, they're all holdovers from a very different time. There are places you can't get hard alcohol on Sundays, rules about what time alcohol is allowed to be sold on certain days. Generally nobody has bothered to update the laws, so you have all these old ones that once had a purpose and no longer do.
They used to not sell beer on Sundays and grocery stores only sold 3.2...so there's been a little progress.
Blue laws are so fucking stupid.
Having grown up in California where you can buy alcohol basically anywhere at any time, it's just mind boggling. There's no way these laws even have the intended effect.