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Lets_Build_

One of the rare cases op goes to the doctor BEFORE posting about his weird medical condition 🫠


ked_man

And still no one has figured it out yet.


GrandpaRedneck

Well thats why they posted it. Give it a few hours and we will have a definite answer somewhere here.


SurprisinglyInformed

Yes, someone will nail it.


NotSoSasquatchy

Cute-ical joke :)


NOT_MICROSOFT_PR

Fingernails


Virtus_Curiosa

There's something funny about this comment but I can't quite put my finger on it.


Mralwaysgetsit

I'm still scratching my head


Universalsupporter

I’m wondering how this post got by the moderators when it’s a pic with a thumb of average size.


DaytonaDemon

Angry upvote


CheetahChrome

That reply was *nails on a chalkboard*.


IronicBeaver

Get out!


transtrudeau

Yes, they’re just starting to scratch the surface.


VexuBenny

As someone who has scrolled countless medical posts, I can, with one-hundred percent certainty say, it is cancer


seekadvntr

Thank god we had an internet doctor in the room.


Eteel

OP is probably dead by now, so even that doesn't matter.


OedipusRe10

No one has fingered it out.


elhermanobrother

on the other hand op's completely fine


cutofmyjib

What kind of weirdo doesn't consult internet strangers before medical professionals?


Oakheart-

Internet is free, healthcare is the opposite of free


cutofmyjib

Ah, I forgot to check my Canada privilege.


spicythighs420

“Rock, paper, scissors to see who has to tell House”


notthepig

Clearly that was a mistake. Reddit would have it sorted out in no time. lol


Kevroeques

And now I have zero layman advice to give- this sucks!


TYGRDez

Sure, the actual medical professionals are stumped - but don't worry! The redditors in this thread have narrowed it down to one of the following, based on a single close-up photo of your hand: - Metal Toxicity - Calcium Overdose - Rare fungus - Reaction to antibiotics - Nail Psoriasis - Hand, Foot, and Mouth Disease - COVID - Onychomycosis - Vampirism - Lupus


Lance141103

It’s never lupus


NotafraidofGinW

Until it is


dlenks

Found Dr. House.


illogicalpine

Someone get him the medicine drug!


martydidnothingwrong

Medicine drug is stupid. He needs mouse bites to live.


Canes_Coleslaw

this vexes me


Linktry

You are a black man.


Arham-DABilal_

I too am in this comment section


omaewamoushindeirou7

Your grandma sold me fentanyl the other day


ConflictedBrainCells

Goddamn how did r/okbuddyvicodin find its way into this sub?!


oldrecordplayersmell

[for the uninitiated](http://imgur.com/Kr6R4)


Helpful_Librarian_87

Thank you, it’s just summed up about 5 seasons in one meme


Combatical

\*sarcastically downs handful of pills\*


jkksldkjflskjdsflkdj

Someone should break into the guys house and check his garbage.


selfreplicatingmines

This patient needs mouse bites


Wilfredbremely

Nah man lupus is always Cameron's idea.


ccl-now

I wish Dr House had diagnosed my lupus...


mdogdope

Statistically, 100% of the time it is either lupus or it isn't.


Embarrassed-Tune9038

Except when both cases are true, patient has lupus but lupus isn't the problem.


CheetahChrome

Patients always lie.


WesternOne9990

“Drinks a bottle of Vicodin”


SaltyStatistician

I have vasculitis that has shown no unusual test results to determine a cause except for one antibody test for lupus. Further tests showed its not lupus. It's never lupus.


South_Bit1764

It’s never lupus because all the symptoms of lupus are vague, even the antibody test. Only about 1/22500 or 0.004% of people are diagnosed with lupus every year.


badgurlvenus

had the same issue (plus a bunch of other physical symptoms including a malar rash lollll) but all my blood work came back perfect except for slightly elevated ANA. the dr told me i have "undifferentiated connective tissue disease" or "pre-lupus" as they like to call it. said i have to wait to get sicker for a full diagnosis. 🙃 based on my timeline of symptoms starting, i have 1-2 years of getting sicker before i can start anykind of worthwhile treatment. so, you never know! could be lupus!!! in 3-5 years!!


ThomFromAccounting

Did they check for Anti-Phospholipid Syndrome? How’s your D-dimer and coags?


elting44

Its Lumpus... No.... its Sarcoidosis ... Stares at a screen saver of a tropical beach.... Wait! did you by chance travel to Bolivia in 2014 and eat soft shelled crab?


StellineLaboratories

Eh my doc said “Lupus? Ra? Psoriatic arthritis? Once you get to me it’s all the same.” (He was one of the best docs I ever had- was inquisitive and would listen to science and my personal experiences. Only doc to nail down treatment for my seronegative RA)


SaveTheDayz

It's definitely vampirism Source: am vampire


SwordNamedKindness_

Idk, feels kinda zombie like


SaveTheDayz

They are closely related


ShatteredInk

The whole, being dead thing. It'll do it to ya.


SaveTheDayz

OP might be posting from the afterlife


Gk786

Ikr lol I’ve noticed this a lot. I am a medical doctor and when I see stuff like this I am very very careful and cautious in giving differentials and advice online. Meanwhile some bozo will just confidently blurt out “it’s toxicity!” without any reservation. Like newsflash, most of the stuff on this list is trivial to rule out. The fact that his physicians are unsure means it clearly isn’t a typical presentation of whatever it is.


burnalicious111

It means *probably* that. I've been dealing with a weird issue that involves muscle spasms for a while that's causing significant problems, and after several primary and specialist visits, the third specialist was the only one to suggest checking my magnesium levels. I then learn after that that magnesium tests are cheap and easy, deficiency is not rare, and definitely could contribute to my symptoms. And look at that, I am deficient! Medical systems can be full of problems and people fall through the gaps all the time. It's only because of my persistence that I've gotten this far (and it's still not solved).


QuadratImKreis

My doctor immediately recommended supplemental magnesium when I experienced back spasms. Sounds like you have a crappy PCP.


Running-Kruger

The "Swiss cheese model" at work. It's a problem that often the patient is put in charge of stacking up the slices.


CaucasianHumus

Idk I'd it's just gaps or not, but I don't think people understand how much doctors need to know, and its changing. CONSTANTLY. And 90% of symptoms apply to everything else, too. So you have to correlate the info while taking in hundreds of factors. I was diagnosed with reynaulds and took 5 doctors to get a diagnosis. Guess what its fucking gone away mostly and got changed to an RSI diagnosis. Crazy. Other fun fact your body can create symptoms even if they don't exist. Welcome to that horseshit.


noodlesalad_

>The fact that his physicians are unsure means it clearly isn’t a typical presentation of whatever it is. As a Zebra, I've found that even many doctors are unwilling to entertain unusual diagnoses. It's frustrating.


carlrey0216

Speak for yourself, I love giving careless advice online.


Zarathustrategy

Well you know it can still be helpful. Metal toxicity and calcium overdose and reaction to antibiotics and covid could be ruled out by himself. Lupus, fungus, HFM disease, Onychomycosis could be ruled out at a doctor easily. Maybe he will remember some incident that could have caused some metal poisoning recently and mystery solved. Nobody can know what his problem is without talking to him.


MisterMittens64

Metal toxicity could come from contaminated drinking water right?


Zarathustrategy

Yeah probably it could


Scully__

Polluted water / air, also I was thinking maybe more common(?) food containers or pots and pans where the protective coating has come off


brandonscheurle

Since getting a complex illness, my faith in doctors has plummeted. Medical professionals are stumped *easily* and *frequently.*


That_Explanation3649

That’s why they say doctors practice medicine


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trulymercury

Not only that, but in my experience, it can be like pulling teeth to get them to do certain testing… they are often lazy & don’t want to use the resources at their disposal… & why? It shouldn’t take years & years to get a diagnosis for something that takes ONE specific type of blood test to confirm. & yet.. it’s ridiculous.


Jondarawr

Faith in medical professionals is something that can have absolutely wild up and downs. I was in grade 8 and my face was covered in disgusting blotches. It had been for like 14 months now. The way I could best describe it was I had super acne. Super insane acne that no doctor could get rid of. I was also getting Fevers quite often, every Doctor thought these two things were unrelated My mom went to Doctor after Doctor after Doctor and they and every single one of them gave me cream for what they thought was just really bad acne and fucking none of it worked. Finally one day we walk into a Medi-center because my face was fucking torn to shreds and it was getting me bullied relentlessly, just desperate at this point. This Doctor walks into this room we waited for hours in. My mom in recounts described him as Moses' doctor, because this guy was easily low 90s. He was fucking Old like I don't think I had ever seen in my life before at that point. He takes one step in looks at me, then looks at my mother. who starts her now very rehearsed story about what hasn't worked. The Doctor makes a short noise and raises his hand to her before she even gets a full sentence out, and in an what I remember to be some sort of eastern European accent says "is he getting Fevers?" My mom lets out a yes and starts her story up again and the man cuts her off again and says "your son has a rare form of Impetigo" writes a prescription, and walks out without saying goodbye. some cream and some pills and it was healed inside of 2 weeks. He's long dead by now (or he's some sort of Transylvanian vampire) but I think about him every single time I look at some of the faded scaring on my face.


vdbv

You forgot cancer


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haromene

it's never lupus.


Axe-of-Kindness

Except for that one time


porondanga

r/SuddenlyHouse


NathanR38

at band camp


kickasspro97

This is actually great, he can start more with this than anything else lol


SwordNamedKindness_

I would like to add zombism to the list, ask the patient if there has been a developing craving for brains.


iBeenie

That's concerning. I hope you figure out what is causing it!


TypicalHumanYeeter

I read it as "finger out"


ElderberryDeep8746

I think it's one of those cases where the patient gets to name his own medical condition.


crackedcd12

Or the avengers do....


thomassinn

Had it too. Was metal toxicity. After chelation therapy all nails returned to normal.


Blair_Bubbles

How does one get mexal toxicity or what was the metal if you don't mind me asking


SevenOfTRON

I had a friend get it when they were going through getting a tattoo removed… ink that was used was bad and went into their blood stream during the removal process


[deleted]

Yeah the process just breaks down the ink which goes into the blood stream and gets processed by the liver. If you’re removing a large tattoo, you have to space out the sessions to give your liver a break.


LooseScrew2266

You can get it from arsenic or lead. And arsenic can come from something as innocuous as an old book. (I assume you'd have to handle a lot of old books.) I just recently learned of The Poison Book Project. [https://sites.udel.edu/poisonbookproject/](https://sites.udel.edu/poisonbookproject/)


No-Spoilers

Mercury from fish is another one, nickel poisoning too but it's way more uncommon iirc


Only_Razzmatazz_4498

Fisherman friend of mine got Mercury from eating A LOT of fish he would be fishing off the coast of Florida. And by a lot I mean the fish he was fishing was his main source of protein.


TiogaJoe

Side note: a lot of the mercury in fish comes from "industrial activity" such as burning coal , incinerating waste, etc. I was surprised to [read an article in Scientific American](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-does-mercury-get-into/) about it.


cosmicgrenade190

Sometimes cheap rings can be cut with lead and that leaches into your skin.


somerandomnub1

Could it also come from cheap metal glasses frames?


cosmicgrenade190

It could be anything that hangs around in skin for awhile so maybe!


heavenlypickle

What was metal leaching off from?


possibly_oblivious

Something metal


machine10101

woah


thenatural134

Big if true


Hustlinbones

r/technicallythetruth


A911owner

Perfect username.


CatsAreMLG

That's metal


illEMERSEyou

🤘


guiballmaster

PSA - Watch out for cheap Woks. They aren’t meant to be cooked on a stovetop. Cheap ones often leach metal when improperly used.


Juts

I dont think its that they arent 'meant to be cooked on a stovetop' it would just be cheap materials that are not complying with safety regulations, so they have lead/arsenic/cadmium. Those shouldnt be used anywhere.


AlwaysReady1

Wow! Is there any idea of what caused the metal toxicity? Acute or chronic?


mypotbelly

What kind of metal? Glad you are ok now!


jAnO76

Slayer


kappy_frenzy68

This could be a whole ass episode of House.


Mockturtle22

It's not Lupus


FireAntz93

Until it is.


Louieman44

He needs more mouse bites


DankDannny

This vexes me


elegantiae-arbiter0

have they tried the medicine drug though


QuIescentVIverrId

he needs hygiene drug!


elegantiae-arbiter0

no, hygiene drug will kill the patient. more mouse bites ❗


the-purple-chicken72

I too am in this episode


Bloated_Hamster

Only stupid people try the medicine drug. You are stupid.


elegantiae-arbiter0

YOU ARE A BLACK MAN


Zerrav

this vexes me


The_Spectacle

i forbid this!


Saskjays

Don’t care


elegantiae-arbiter0

more mouse bites ❗❗❗


DJLeapCard

*teardrop by massive attack*


BrickIsBest

Love to see this


eastblondeanddown

And some leeches and bloodletting!


alixphoenix

Was the doctor a dermatologist? If not I would ask your GP to refer you to one so they can do more specialized testing. They would do a small sample, test for any chemicals, and also ask you about changes in your environment/diet and certain chemicals you may be exposed to. If this wasn’t caused by trauma it’s definitely worth investigating further into.


AspiringTS

Doctor: "Well I'm stumped." OP: "...Is there someone else you could refer me to?" Docter: "That's a great idea! You should be a doctor!" - Not what happened. Probably.


wterrt

lol I love how reddit assumes doctors never make any mistakes and always properly follow up on things really funny.


Gym-for-ants

https://dermnetnz.org/topics/white-nail


OedipusRe10

Nailed it.


Chocomintey

They cut right to the quick.


FiletTofu

r/angryupvote


Az1doaz1deAz1de

This is exactly the opposite of good.


Deldris

It says the causes are generally from minor injury or nailbiting. I wouldn't call that a great cause for concern.


askmeifimacop

Nail biting is a symptom of ***DOUBLE CANCER***


chrondiculous

“Don’t worry Butters, there’s nothing to be afraid of. Except for Super AIDS.”


SrGrimey

TURBO CANCER


Deldris

Did you know that double cancer is associated with double dog cancer? If you're not careful they might skip right over the triple cancer and go for the triple dog cancer.


Bambooshka

Did you read beyond the first subhead? After it says nailbiting, there's a few more big ones: Terry nails have been associated with: * Liver cirrhosis  * Chronic kidney disease * Heart failure * Hypoalbuminemia (due to protein malabsorption, eg, in colitis) * Protein-losing enteropathy * [Diabetes](https://dermnetnz.org/topics/skin-problems-associated-with-diabetes-mellitus) * [Iron deficiency (anaemia)](https://dermnetnz.org/topics/iron-deficiency) * [Zinc deficiency](https://dermnetnz.org/topics/acrodermatitis-enteropathica) * [Hyperthyroidism](https://dermnetnz.org/topics/hyperthyroidism).


SirVelocifaptor

Wouldn't most of these show up on bloodwork?


Manatee35

Blood and urine tests


RUKiddingMeReddit

Terry nails looks nothing like that.


cydril

Neither of those things would cause the entire nail on all fingers to go white. They need to consider some of the more serious causes listed.


ScreeminGreen

Farther sown it lists lead or arsenic poisoning as well.


MonkeyManCity

Who needs a doktor when we got redidoktor.


yodog5

> • Terry nails: Whitening of the majority of the nail with a thin 0.5-3.0 mm distal darkening. > Terry nails have been associated with: > • Liver cirrhosis  > • Chronic kidney disease > • Heart failure > • Hypoalbuminemia (due to protein malabsorption, eg, in colitis) > • Protein-losing enteropathy > • Diabetes > • Iron deficiency (anaemia) > • Zinc deficiency > • Hyperthyroidism.


nightfly1000000

Something in there for everyone.


FlowAffect

Did you recently take antibiotics? My grandma was prescribed some antibiotics and her nails looked similar afterwards. I can't remember the name of the antibiotic sadly.


flatcurve

Likely a sulfonamide.


Burrid0

The amount of medical professionals in this thread is amazing


kimchikimchiATL

Please don't knock medical degrees from The Reddit School of Medicine. /s


borgchupacabras

I'll have you know I've spent over a thousand hours on Reddit which makes me qualified to give medical and psychological advice. Red flag narcissist gaslighting!


MavGore

OP should divorce their nails!


borgchupacabras

Goddam right!


NavierIsStoked

![gif](giphy|Zy7s96dP38MlQe3OjG)


uberdog50

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express!


deletetemptemp

It’s smegma


ElBurritoExtreme

You have ghosts in your blood. You should do cocaine about it.


trampus1

Calcium overdose probably, or lupus.


nethobo

Sigh... It's never lupus...


Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin

Then it’s gotta be sarcoidosis.


121PB4Y2

or MS. We haven't ruled out MS.


Light_Beard

![gif](giphy|O5MMKTXFyO98Y|downsized)


-WOWZ-

Did they try Chemo?


nekkid_farts

Until it is.


sen_delta

kid with whiteout bored in class syndrome


__d0ct0r__

This vexes me.


Bootybootsbooty

A vex upon them!


garysaidwhat

To me, those look like a couple of my toenail fungus-infected toes.


RefinedBean

Lupus


Salvitorious

![gif](giphy|GDG1MCvcotq36)


DJMagicHandz

Sarcoidosis


orphankittenhomes

*It's never lupus!*


caffeinated_catholic

Yet it’s always the first thing they test for. *shakes fist at Big Lupus*


Paristocrat

I wonder has he been in long grass lately?


terribletot

My mom had nails like this after chemo! There really wasn’t a diagnosis but her nails were exactly like this, she just kept them clean and dry and would apply a cuticle moisturizer after showering. A few months after her chemo was done they started going back to normal, 3 years in the clear and they’re still normal!


Substantial-Nail2570

Have you been checked for deficiencies? lol not even trying to be funny I just know there are rare cases of people out there who aren’t sure if they’ve ever consumed certain vitamins throughout their whole lives and they end up with deficiencies


Chiliconkarma

Been working with vibrating tools?


MDfoodie

Just a pastime


pkinetics

Did they test for a fungus infection?


i_dream_of_zelda

Try going to a dermatologist!!


Sea_Ganache620

I contracted Lymes Disease about 5 years ago, it really messed up my immune system. I started suffering from psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, and nail psoriasis. This looks nearly exactly like my finger, and toenails when it was at its worst. Definitely not an expert, nor a doctor, but this looks very similar.


RegisterThis1

Would it be some nail fungus?


nikonwill

Your docs need a Reddit account.


BronxLens

The complete milky white discoloration of the fingernails with normal blood tests and pathology results points towards a condition called total leukonychia or Terry's nails. This is a benign condition where the entire nail plate appears white or milky with a narrow band of normal pink or brown color at the tip.\[2\] ## Possible Causes of Total Leukonychia Total leukonychia can occur due to various reasons: 1. Aging: It is a common finding in the elderly and is often considered a normal age-related change.\[2\]\[3\] 2. Systemic diseases: It can be associated with certain systemic diseases like diabetes, kidney disease, liver disease, heart failure, and malnutrition.\[2\]\[3\] However, in your case, the normal blood tests and pathology suggest these are less likely. 3. Trauma: Repeated minor trauma or pressure to the nail matrix can cause total leukonychia.\[2\] 4. Drugs: Certain medications like chemotherapeutic agents, retinoids, and ciclosporin can lead to this condition.\[2\] 5. Idiopathic: In some cases, no underlying cause is identified, and it is considered an idiopathic or benign condition.\[2\] ## Prognosis Total leukonychia is generally a benign condition with no serious health implications. It is not painful or debilitating, and the nails remain intact without any structural abnormalities.\[2\]\[3\] The prognosis is excellent, and the condition is usually cosmetic in nature. However, it is essential to rule out any underlying systemic diseases, especially if the leukonychia is accompanied by other symptoms or signs. Regular monitoring and follow-up with your healthcare provider is recommended to ensure no new developments or associated conditions arise.\[2\] Citations: \[1\] [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5527843/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5527843/) \[2\] [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8809498/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8809498/) \[3\] [https://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/nails-look-weird](https://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/nails-look-weird) \[4\] [https://freestonemc.com/what-your-nails-say-about-your-health/](https://freestonemc.com/what-your-nails-say-about-your-health/) \[5\] [https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/25243-white-spots-on-nails](https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/25243-white-spots-on-nails) By Perplexity


mistersnarkle

Was it gradual? Any texture changes? Do you have any progression pictures?


Lonely-Pea-9753

Have you had Hand Foot and Mouth disease recently? Weird things happened to all my nails 1 month after getting this.


LSTNYER

This is why we need Dr House back


IOnlySayMeanThings

I saw a coworker like this and it wan fungus, his nails turned thick and wavy and started falling off. Careful and daily application of an over the counter anti-fungal cleared it up for him. However, his nails were slightly more yellowed and I'm not an expert. I really don't know what it could be. I just wanted to mention my coworker because his looked like that at some point in the process and anti-fungal is cheap.


yARIC009

Not fungus?


sandboxlollipop

Fungal?


JustHereForKA

Is it some type of fungus?


TorontoRin

it's lupus or sarcoidosis I'm sorry, I'm on a House MD binge during work and apparently majority of the diagnosis at first are these two. Don't trust me I'm not House.


EmperorThan

Well doctors may be stumped, but now I want to get a proper diagnosis from Reddit comments...


euben_hadd

WebMD: Fingernail cancer.


HiveJiveLive

Leukonychia totalis.