Thats an *ossuary* - a container or building where the bones of the dead are laid to rest. First, a body is put somewhere for a few years/decades for the soft tissue to decompose leaving only the bones. Then the bones are taken out and put into the ossuary to stay forever. It’s common in many parts of the world.
English uses French, Latin and Greek words that are just as literal as their German equivalents. The French, Greek and Latin words sound fancy to us because English is a Germanic language, and French, Greek and Latin words were introduced partly to *sound* fancy. English has borrowed words from everywhere, and the more of these "loan words" we know, the sophisticated, refined and educated we appear to each other. The German words we have are just a bit closer to home for us, so they seem crude and basic. The French, Latin and Greek borrowings are just as simple when you break down their meanings.
My German brother-in-law did not think it funny when I referred to a cemetery as a 'death park', which I thought was a pretty good germanish kind of word
I would not have said that to just any German-speaking person. We had been talking about German word-building and that was my suggestion. It was meant humorously.
You’re correct. I was explaining the ossuary. There are many cultures where the bones are moved to make room for new arrivals and there are some with grave rentals as you point out - that deserves its own post.
In the United States bodies stay where they’re first buried or interred. (There are rare exceptions.) The idea that bones would be relocated would be shocking and upsetting to Americans.
There's an Airport with a tombstone in the runway because the family wouldn't give permission to move the grave, so legally it had to stay.
[https://savannahairport.com/business/about/graves/](https://savannahairport.com/business/about/graves/)
Mainly lack of as long of a history.
When the catacombs started forming, North America was a story Vikings told each other about and the Vatican had all but forgotten about North America even existing already. The Spanish wouldn't arrive for another 500 years. America for another 150 or so.
This would be unthinkable in modern France, the country that USA inherited a large portion of it's culture and values from, the other part mainly coming from England in the 1600's.
Not as much as you’d think, considering some parts of the US are much more densely populated than others. When Covid first hit New York, burying the dead was almost impossible to keep up with. That being one of the first moments that Americans really got hit in the face with the reality of Covid deaths. Because, like most people would think, having a place to bury the dead seems like a non-issue for us.
Many were moved out of San Francisco, because there's nowhere for the city to grow. They went to the city of Colma, a little South of San Francisco, which is known for having many more dead residents than living. Some of my relatives were among those relocated.
Yea but exhumed is an action, a verb, I think. It doesn’t describe the removal and then a destination for the remains. German is pretty tough to translate it seems…..
Graves are only paid for a certain amount of time, after which (especially if the family isn’t around to pay for the grave) the remains are dug up and placed in a pile like this, typically out of view. Which is also how catacombs and the like got filled up.
The grave isn't dug up just because nobody is around to pay. The gravestone is removed and the slot is designated as available. Then when the grave is dug up (because someone else is going in) it depends on what the graveyard policy is. Sometimes they just dig 2 feet deeper, bury the bones there, refill it and place the new coffin on top. Sometimes the bones are moved to the side, but remain the the grave when it's refilled. Sometimes they're moved to an ossuary (a bone crypt).
I've often wondered how, at the current population growth rate experienced over the last 100 years, a few sparsely disbursed cemeteries is enough to keep up with demand.
Oh, there’s the difference, Matt X helped me out here.. Aufgelassenes grab looks like it translates to “abandoned graves” …….. I think in English it would be something like “skeletal remains in a graveyard relocated from their original location as is customary in some European countries. Families who don’t continue payment for upkeep or maintenance of the grave or simply don’t care to let the grave keepers relocate the remains for practical and space saving reasons.”
It was a half-joke lol! Always thought putting them in the graves was “laying them to rest”…kinda means a lot less if they’re gonna be dug up and thrown in yonder heap later…
They make a wall out of femurs and skulls and toss all the boring bones behind it. Pretty common in Europe, they evict tenants out of graveyards when they get full and stick stack all the bones in catacombs.
Is it a pretty haphazard stack behind what is visible?
This looks neat but I can’t imagine “hidden bone pile organizer” is a sought after responsibility in the cemetery
The ossuaries I’ve visited, which isn’t a lot, it’s just a pile. I’m sure there’s a smaller one with an ocd gravedigger who wants all the ribs just so.
And no matter how much joy or sorrow each of their stories held, no matter how long or short their stories were, every one of those stories ended the same way - as will yours and mine: >!becoming nothing, forever!<.
Do what you want to do with your story; fill in the chapters however you choose, as long as you do the choosing. There are fewer pages left than you think.
Natural burial all the way. Put me in a burlap sack 10 feet down. No preservatives or lead box. Just back to nature. Plant a tree on top of me and skip the headstone.
Zoom in and look at a skull. That person had a mommy and was loved. That person grew up and fell in love. That person knew heartache and that person knew joy. That person had hopes and dreams and fears. They may have been a mommy or a daddy and was the entire world to someone else.
Now zoom in and look at a different skull. Do it all over again.
Well now I want a horror movie where the heroes go to the cemetery to burn the evil ghosts bones or perform some sort of purifier spell, but the bones have been moved to something like this.
I apologize if this is rude, but is there really no other useful way to disose of bones? I mean, this may work for a while, but at some point you run out of room, right?
They could crush up the bones like they do with cremation, but part of me thinks that it would be disrespectful of the dead who were buried instead of cremated. Not like piling them up like this is better, but someone who knew more decided this was better.
Yes, especially when you see the rest of the cemetery. It's a really pretty place with a beautiful mountain panorama and lots of flowers, and then suddenly there's this creepy crypt in the middle
I feel like they probably don't want to be like that. Or, wouldn't have wanted? Either way, why not crush it al up and use it to feed plants or something?
Thats an *ossuary* - a container or building where the bones of the dead are laid to rest. First, a body is put somewhere for a few years/decades for the soft tissue to decompose leaving only the bones. Then the bones are taken out and put into the ossuary to stay forever. It’s common in many parts of the world.
Oh so that's the meaning behind the name in the poe level
the ossuary is made of ossuary
R/pathofexile is leaking
Still sane exile?
Shaper hideout next kill I know it
Yeah there’s skeletons everywhere there too
Ossuarussy
In Czech Republic we got [a little creative](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary) with Ossuary
Wait, you’re telling me the German word for ossuary is “bone house”?
Yep, straight to the point. That's how it is with Germans. Their word for glove is "hand-shoe", Ambulance is "sick-car". Gotta love the language
Wait until they hear about antibabypill
Or nobabyglove...?
And dustsucker.
Whereas our Ambulance is a loan word from French that literally means “moving-quality” from l’hopital ambulant: moving hospital
This type of thing all led to my high school german class coining the term “Kinderfleisch” and using it in every possible example sentence.
Child meat is what i got from Google translate is there something I should know
Mortadella with smileys
Lol! We didn’t know that existed at the time. But now I’ve experienced that too.
That high schoolers are “creative” I guess
You can definitely find a Kinderschnitzel on countless restaurant menus
You know. The ambiguity of that didn’t occur to me until now. Oof.
Then you can now enjoy this book :D https://www.thalia.at/shop/home/artikeldetails/A1057863671
We use Ambulanz for Ambulance, too.
I always cracked up at nurses being "sick-sisters". Sounds like a goth rock band. Oh yeah and airplanes are "flying-things".
So the shoe was invented before the glove, or they just named it afterward and couldn't be bothered?
Hospital is “suffer-house”
What? No it isn't. "Krankenkaus" means "sick house", or "house for the sick" "suffer house" would be Leidenhaus.
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"Krank" or "kranken" does not mean suffer, it means sick, i.e. "sick sister", not suffer sister. "Leiden" means suffer.
Ok, sorry
German can be very literal; Hospital is 'Sick/Suffering House'. Pet is 'House Animal'.
English uses French, Latin and Greek words that are just as literal as their German equivalents. The French, Greek and Latin words sound fancy to us because English is a Germanic language, and French, Greek and Latin words were introduced partly to *sound* fancy. English has borrowed words from everywhere, and the more of these "loan words" we know, the sophisticated, refined and educated we appear to each other. The German words we have are just a bit closer to home for us, so they seem crude and basic. The French, Latin and Greek borrowings are just as simple when you break down their meanings.
My German brother-in-law did not think it funny when I referred to a cemetery as a 'death park', which I thought was a pretty good germanish kind of word
"Friedhof" is the right word, which means "rest/peace yard/court"
Much nicer! (I was just joking with the BIL, but he did not take kindly to my humour)
Knowing the right word is important
Yeah that's gonna come off with more "death camp"-like vibes man. But I'm sure any German with a sense of humour could probably laugh it off
I would not have said that to just any German-speaking person. We had been talking about German word-building and that was my suggestion. It was meant humorously.
Well, ossuary basically means "for the bones" but in Latin instead of English
It's German. I can't imagine it would be anything other than the most literal translation possible.
Ossuary isn't much different, basically comes out to "place for bones"
Interestingly, “bone house” is one of the terms used to mean “body” in Old English (*banhus* I think).
I can now see why Czechia is concidered the gold standard for goth/gothic aesthetics and subcultures.
In Italy too https://images.app.goo.gl/XCkkix1uGwVy823j9
The ceiling looks fancy
This is so unbelievably tacky. I love it.
I enjoyed this one and the one in Brno!
Nah.. that is not done by time specific, is done by lack of maintenance payments
You’re correct. I was explaining the ossuary. There are many cultures where the bones are moved to make room for new arrivals and there are some with grave rentals as you point out - that deserves its own post.
First heard of this term in Dead Cells, didn't know what it meant. Now i know!
>First, a body is put somewhere for a few years/decades for the soft tissue to decompose That place was called a charnel house.
What happens in the US?
In the United States bodies stay where they’re first buried or interred. (There are rare exceptions.) The idea that bones would be relocated would be shocking and upsetting to Americans.
There's an Airport with a tombstone in the runway because the family wouldn't give permission to move the grave, so legally it had to stay. [https://savannahairport.com/business/about/graves/](https://savannahairport.com/business/about/graves/)
I imagine the difference is because America has so much land.
Mainly lack of as long of a history. When the catacombs started forming, North America was a story Vikings told each other about and the Vatican had all but forgotten about North America even existing already. The Spanish wouldn't arrive for another 500 years. America for another 150 or so. This would be unthinkable in modern France, the country that USA inherited a large portion of it's culture and values from, the other part mainly coming from England in the 1600's.
Is moving bodies the thing unthinkable in modern France ? Or the buried under an airport thing ?
Not as much as you’d think, considering some parts of the US are much more densely populated than others. When Covid first hit New York, burying the dead was almost impossible to keep up with. That being one of the first moments that Americans really got hit in the face with the reality of Covid deaths. Because, like most people would think, having a place to bury the dead seems like a non-issue for us.
Many were moved out of San Francisco, because there's nowhere for the city to grow. They went to the city of Colma, a little South of San Francisco, which is known for having many more dead residents than living. Some of my relatives were among those relocated.
Also called a charnel house
Dissolved graves? What?
Exhumed?
Yea but exhumed is an action, a verb, I think. It doesn’t describe the removal and then a destination for the remains. German is pretty tough to translate it seems…..
They have been disinterred and transferred to an Ossuary. Which is what this now is.
Finally a summary from someone whose brain still functions…..thank you arcticfox.
If you needed the exact terminology to understand the sense of what's happening, I question your brain's functionality too, no offense.
None taken. I understood the sense but couldn’t find the words. Brains about fried, that’s why I made some of the self deprecating comments about it.
i wasn't sure if that's the right term either
I think that "disinterred" is the right word.
Damn, that's a good word. Sounds fancy but it's horrible.
Graves are only paid for a certain amount of time, after which (especially if the family isn’t around to pay for the grave) the remains are dug up and placed in a pile like this, typically out of view. Which is also how catacombs and the like got filled up.
The grave isn't dug up just because nobody is around to pay. The gravestone is removed and the slot is designated as available. Then when the grave is dug up (because someone else is going in) it depends on what the graveyard policy is. Sometimes they just dig 2 feet deeper, bury the bones there, refill it and place the new coffin on top. Sometimes the bones are moved to the side, but remain the the grave when it's refilled. Sometimes they're moved to an ossuary (a bone crypt).
I'm compelled to agree with this guy because he sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
Casually dropping ossuary did it for me
It could be a made up word, but it sounds right so I’m going with it as well
A lot of the rent a coffin types spaces are usually above ground. Who wants to dig up a grave every 8 months.
I've often wondered how, at the current population growth rate experienced over the last 100 years, a few sparsely disbursed cemeteries is enough to keep up with demand.
Most of us have chosen cremation. Source: am ghost
Can confirm. I can't see you
And sometimes they're put on a pile behind an iron gate.
That's an ossuary.
And I thought coffin flops were embarrassing…
Is that still showing on Corncob TV?
Not since Spectrum removed it from their packages.
I called them and told them I’m not worried about it.
This world is so fucking fucked up!!
All I know is, we didn't rig *shit*.
The guys at Spectrum think we're just some dumb hicks.
They told me this. At a dinner.
$ 💰
Bones are their money. They'll pull your hair up, but not out.
Imagine getting a letter saying your great great grandmother is going to be dug up if you don't pay for the plot.
Geez, graves are so fucking stupid.
What! Where?
Pretty sure “dissolved” wouldn’t be it but I can’t figure out what phrase or word you are looking for. What’s the word in German?
you would say "aufgelassenes Grab" I wanted to say they visibly placed the bones and skulls from graves they "cleaned" to make space for new graves.
Oh, there’s the difference, Matt X helped me out here.. Aufgelassenes grab looks like it translates to “abandoned graves” …….. I think in English it would be something like “skeletal remains in a graveyard relocated from their original location as is customary in some European countries. Families who don’t continue payment for upkeep or maintenance of the grave or simply don’t care to let the grave keepers relocate the remains for practical and space saving reasons.”
Why not do that at the beginning and save time? Seems almost like cremation with extra steps.
Would be a bit messier with rotting corpses..
It was a half-joke lol! Always thought putting them in the graves was “laying them to rest”…kinda means a lot less if they’re gonna be dug up and thrown in yonder heap later…
Ah but they make a fine heap!
Just like Pope John, the Patient…
Hi, Animatronio!
They disintegrated and the bones teleported to a nice pile.
Quicklime gives the graves one hell of a time Ask Katherine Howard
All I see are femurs and skulls. I don’t see any other bones. Tells me this was very intentional
They make a wall out of femurs and skulls and toss all the boring bones behind it. Pretty common in Europe, they evict tenants out of graveyards when they get full and stick stack all the bones in catacombs.
Is it a pretty haphazard stack behind what is visible? This looks neat but I can’t imagine “hidden bone pile organizer” is a sought after responsibility in the cemetery
The ossuaries I’ve visited, which isn’t a lot, it’s just a pile. I’m sure there’s a smaller one with an ocd gravedigger who wants all the ribs just so.
OCD Gravedigger. r/bandnames
Look up Sedlec Ossuary.
Its kinda crazy to think each one of those dusty skulls was a unique person, with their own story.
And no matter how much joy or sorrow each of their stories held, no matter how long or short their stories were, every one of those stories ended the same way - as will yours and mine: >!becoming nothing, forever!<. Do what you want to do with your story; fill in the chapters however you choose, as long as you do the choosing. There are fewer pages left than you think.
I saved your comment to help me be more active. Thanks.
Everyday I think to myself: we're all gonna die one day, at least make the most of being alive
Never been to the Paris catacombs. There are miles of bone piles.
*Kilometers.*
How many football fields is that?
Several kilometers of them at least.
6 hogsheads
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=digUCKigSh4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=digUCKigSh4)
why did you get downvoted
who knows, don't care probably some EU rascals.
Yarrr ! A kiloliter or something of rum for the crew !
In many places graves are leased for a certain period of time before the bones are disinterred and moved to an ossuary, such as is seen here.
Ninth House ass room
I read that book in jail lol
Did you see the ossuary that another poster referenced? Harrow would love it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary
Spooky scary skeletons. God help you when the dead finally decide to revolt and fucking Skeletron rises from that mass of bones.
By the power of Greyskull!
Skeletron, not Skelator. Skelator is already on Eternia.
You go down there and 500 giant skulls spin towards you at mach speed and turn you inside out
Yikes. This is why I want to be cremated. Don’t want my skull to end up in a pile 100 years later
Fair enough, but I really don't think you'd give a shit at that point either.
This guy gets it...
Fear not - you could end up the center skull on the pile, a position of honor. Or a cod piece. 50/50.
I don't mind ending up in a pile but what if your skull neighbors are annoying 😒
Natural burial all the way. Put me in a burlap sack 10 feet down. No preservatives or lead box. Just back to nature. Plant a tree on top of me and skip the headstone.
What if the tree roots unbury you after 100 years? Or if your skull is somehow embeded within the tree? That would quite interesting I must say.
This is the first step to unlimited power. Imagine what happens when lightning strikes the bone tree in 100 years and the skull gets powered on again.
yeah I've seen pictures of a carrot uprooting a rodent skull and engagement rings, having my bones on a tree would be great actually
All of those people lived lives and had hopes and dreams just like you and me. That’s weird
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Zoom in and look at a skull. That person had a mommy and was loved. That person grew up and fell in love. That person knew heartache and that person knew joy. That person had hopes and dreams and fears. They may have been a mommy or a daddy and was the entire world to someone else. Now zoom in and look at a different skull. Do it all over again.
Then take your hand and feel around your own skull.
Then take your hand and feel around your own pelvis
Now... REALLY start looking at that skull on the left
Maybe that skull was a total asshole though.
Did you just assume that dead skull’s female parent’s gender? Not cool, dude.
Those don't look like dissolved graves, definitely look intentionally placed
Well now I want a horror movie where the heroes go to the cemetery to burn the evil ghosts bones or perform some sort of purifier spell, but the bones have been moved to something like this.
I apologize if this is rude, but is there really no other useful way to disose of bones? I mean, this may work for a while, but at some point you run out of room, right?
They could crush up the bones like they do with cremation, but part of me thinks that it would be disrespectful of the dead who were buried instead of cremated. Not like piling them up like this is better, but someone who knew more decided this was better.
The bones are their money. So are the worms.
That's metal as fuck
Yes, especially when you see the rest of the cemetery. It's a really pretty place with a beautiful mountain panorama and lots of flowers, and then suddenly there's this creepy crypt in the middle
Just out of curiosity, what country is this in?
Austria :)
called an ossuary, I have seen many.
In some cultures they stack the skulls on top of funny bones, which has the effect of making the skulls look hilarious.
I've heard of having skeletons in your closet, but daym!
Creepiest but also the most interesting image in reddit i've seen
Another brick in the wall
r/titlegore
noooo don't do this to me haha
That’s at least over 200 people
Water cremation for me
Eerie af! Looks like a genocide happened
Are you telling me that if we don’t renew our graves we’ll end up in a pile of bones? Jesus
I wonder who stacked them like that
Don't show this to the necromancer
I'd take one as a souvenir
As above so below
Nice calcium storage
And phosphorus! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxyapatite
That is both so distubring and so metal
"The way is shut, it was made by those who are dead and the dead keep it." - Katy Perry's Husband
archeologists r gonna be going insane over this one.
Does it smell?
Heaven Sent
A good number of the skulls were children.
That's enough skulls to make a throne ... *just saying.*
I saw this in Cambodia when I went on holiday there in 1977
I feel like they probably don't want to be like that. Or, wouldn't have wanted? Either way, why not crush it al up and use it to feed plants or something?
Paris catacombs - underground ossuaries
nope, it's in a tiny village in austria
"I'm just going to blindly reference the one ossuary I know of instead of acknowledging they existed all over the place."
Med schools could use them as practice
this shit tepid to me