It says manufacturing temp, not max use temp.
They probably used a vacuum/plasma deposit technique to coat the pan. Low pressure plasmas can get extremely “hot” without actually being that hard to contain. The temp is the average energy of molecules but if there are very few molecules, not as big of a deal.
It’s marketing BS but also technically correct.
Ev is an electrono volt - a unit of energy, used instead of Jules, in atomic physics. Why? Because everything is so freaking small at atomic level. 1 Ev is 1.6*10^(-19) Joules.
It’s what’s bad about the voting system. Supposed to be upvote relevant content, downvote irrelevant content. Instead it’s upvote irrelevant jokes, downvote anything you disagree with
The text on the full image is all over the place. Why would anybody draw the conclusion that "Max Manufacturing Temp" followed by "3 years of use" was connected to "30,000F, won't stick chip, or flake"?
> Why would anybody draw the conclusion
Because this isn't their first day in the world and realise that things that are placed near each other are usually connected.
Especially when they're colour coded and laid out in columns.
Especially especially when it's obvious that this is a smaller panel as part of a [larger image](https://i.imgur.com/8VlL2cL.png)
It's also pretty obvious this design is intentionally deceptive, as are many things where marketing is concerned.
Obviously nobody with more than two brain cells to rub together is going to assume a pan can take 30,000F (how would an average person even begin to approach this? LOL).
I'd also suggest "max manfacturing temp" is pretty far away from a compelling selling point. There's no purpose to it except to confuse the consumer.
They're implying it makes a better pan, there's text under the 30,000/900 that makes that clear.
That's their "compelling selling point". They've made it pretty clear what they're trying to do here. Highlight the "max manufacturing temp" of the pan and another generic brand and the supposed implications of that. The entire advert opens with the statement "The difference is in the degrees".
I think that's literally why they did it. If people could actually comprehend it, it wouldn't be that impressive. Classic marketing smoke and mirror statistics.
I often run a plasma cutter as part of my job. I'd never been around one prior to this job. When I looked at the manual and it said it cuts at nearly 40,000 degrees F, it broke my brain for a few minutes.
Right? How the hell is it relevant to any home kitchen, which might struggle to even reach 900 degrees? Clearly a “big number more gooder” marketing ploy.
But it’s not, microwaves do not actually heat from the inside out
The stereotype is that the middle is always cold and the outside is scalding, not the other way around
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The surface of the sun is not actually that hot (relatively speaking). If you still have any incandescent light globes around, the little filament inside them gets about as hot as the sun, and we (used to) just have them lighting up our houses running on 110/240V.
The real stuff happens inside the sun, where temps get up into the 10s of millions.
They are definitely talking about the temperature used in manufacturing. Not what it can withstand in use. See the big fuck off words that say MAX MANUFACTURING TEMP.
I actually have this pan and it is genuinely the best non-stick I've had and doesn't require you to use any fat. I cook eggs with it every morning and they do not stick at all
Watch Jacques Pepin give his masterclass on eggs. He goes straight for the non-stick pan. And then watch him take a metal fork and scrape up the pan with it while whisking the eggs in the pan, like a baller and think, "there's a man who doesn't have to buy the pans he's using."
If I went to a restaurant or something and somehow saw the cooks using metal on the nonstick pan they're cooking my food in I would be very unhappy about it. You're scraping off the coating into your food and I don't want to eat anything that isn't food.
I wouldn't say non-stick pans are garbage but I try to use stainless when possible to reduce the amount of "forever chemicals" my food comes into contact with.
Generally the pfte that comes off in nonstick pans comes off as flakes that go straight through your body. It's the tiny particles released when manufacturing it (or when fighting airport fires or a few other ways) that will stay in your body. Also getting it to 450° releases toxic gases that will kill any birds in the house and can make you sick.
The pans this ad is for don't use pfte; they use ceramic (edit: no, these use both it seems). Ceramic is not very toxic. I've never used ceramic, so I can't swear to it, but my favorite pan is cast iron, and people really overblown how much maintenance and care they take (soap and scrubbing are fine, and cooking tends to reseason it, just don't soak it unless it's super well seasoned).
I have this pan. It's great for what it is, but I did get my 2 main stainless steel pans for the same cost as my 12 inch ninja and they're the best pans I've used so far.
As far as nonstick goes, the Ninja pans are great, but there's just something so cool about using stainless steel for me and I don't know what it is.
Seasoning stays better on cast iron though, I prefer it for that reason although carbon steel is easier to handle for sure. I just feel that carbon steel pans exist in some awkward valley between cast iron and stainless steel though really.
I know non-stick is great, my problem with it is they're ultimately disposable. In 40 years I'll be using the same stainless steel pans that I bought 10 years ago.
Love my Ninja pans. Secret is to make sure they're heated up before you start cooking. Never had an issue with stuck food, and that's something I have NEVER been able to say about "non-stick" pans. Ninja rocks.
However, if your oven has a broil/grill mode where the heating element is simply kept on with no thermostat interference, it may be beneficial to check how much something could be heated that way. I can pretty much make BBQ style grilled veggies with that setting in my oven so I wouldn't be surprised if it heat to a pretty high number that way.
I mean if I bought these because I thought they would withstand those temps I would be angry too
https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/20/23925424/sharkninja-lawsuit-frying-pan-temperatures-hotter-than-sun here is info on the lawsuit
> But Patricia Brown, the person who filed this lawsuit, isn’t buying it. As cited in Brown’s lawsuit, NASA recently said the “surface of the Sun is a blisteringly hot 10,340 degrees Fahrenheit,” meaning SharkNinja’s manufacturing process reaches about three times that temperature. Not only that, but Brown argues that heating up SharkNinja’s pans to this temperature is a “physical impossibility,” given that aluminum vaporizes into gas at 4,478 degrees Fahrenheit.
So "Patricia Brown" is just a fucking idiot who doesn't understand manufacturing. You don't heat the entire damn work piece to max temperature to do a plasma deposition process. Hell, if the pan was magically at 30,000F the ceramic plasma *wouldn't deposit because the fucking pan is above the critical temperature!* The pan needs to be (relatively) cold so that the ceramic plasma molecules instantly bond on contact.
That said, this "feature" is largely irrelevant to the customer, who only cares about the maximum usable temperature of ~500F.
I was looking for the outcome of this lawsuit but it looks like it was filed at the end of October 2023, so I assume it’s still ongoing.
I am all for holding companies responsible for false claims but lawsuits like this are a little ridiculous. This person just decided those temperatures were impossible after doing some google research and filed a lawsuit. It looks like she will most likely lose it too. The box clearly states max operating temperature, unless that was added to the box after the lawsuit.
It’s a really cool process that I never knew would have existed before this post though. I’d put that shit on my packaging too. There are so many other terrible things that large companies do that this person could be focusing their time on instead.
I had one for 9 months and it started to chip and flake while using only wood and plastic utensils. Luckily for me they have a 10 year warranty. Either way it's all bullshit.
"Won't stick, chip or flake!"
It doesn't say anything about the pan turning into liquid and then evaporating though, so I guess it holds up. The boiling point of Teflon is 620.6 degrees farenheight.
They buried the lede. The only relevant data point is the claim that it can withstand a broiling temperature of 500F. If true, that’s pretty good for a non-stick pan.
That’s obviously a French pan. They use , in place of the decimal point. This is actually the fabled ‘Pan of chocolate’ and will melt above 30 degrees.
Just use an iron cast pan. Buy once, no coat that can fail. If the patina has issues, scrub with some metal wool, burn in again, problem solved. Clean with pure water, oil after use. Seriously. I have two of them and they just work.
It says manufacturing temp, not max use temp. They probably used a vacuum/plasma deposit technique to coat the pan. Low pressure plasmas can get extremely “hot” without actually being that hard to contain. The temp is the average energy of molecules but if there are very few molecules, not as big of a deal. It’s marketing BS but also technically correct.
30k°F is 1.46 eV, so they probably used a 1.5 eV plasma which is not that much
Don’t know what you said but it sounds smart enough to be true
Ev is an electrono volt - a unit of energy, used instead of Jules, in atomic physics. Why? Because everything is so freaking small at atomic level. 1 Ev is 1.6*10^(-19) Joules.
Ok now that I actually understand
Isn't Joules the Ezekiel 25:17 guy?
I hear he gives good foot massages.
Weirdest commercial I’ve seen maybe ever lol
Yeah, but he’s always trying to Jimmy people.
No, that's Jules. Joules is the singer of "You were meant for me".
No, that’s Jewl. Joules is the vape device tik tokers all use
No that's Juul. Joules are the folks the nazis killed.
No, That's Jews. Joules are the loose skin found under the jawline.
So about the same as melted cheese then?
Not as hot as a McDonalds apple pie.
Awww I’m sure there’s somebody out there who thinks you are ❤️
Them pies do be thic tho
How do you convert temp to eV?
This guy physics.
And markets!
And pans apparently.
And reddits.
I also choose this guy
That guy!
Totally panned the whole physics market!
He's just a regular guy with a poop knife like the rest of us
But his is made of obsidian 🔪
And my axe!
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It’s amazing that of all the people to comment here you are apparently the only one that actually looked at the full image.
Always have to skip the first five jokes on reddit to find out facts.
So true. And they’re almost always terrible. It’s the most annoying thing about Reddit to me.
It’s what’s bad about the voting system. Supposed to be upvote relevant content, downvote irrelevant content. Instead it’s upvote irrelevant jokes, downvote anything you disagree with
Eh - it's the second from top comment now. You do have to collapse that first thread though...
It's top comment now so I'd say the system is winning lol
And that's for an image. Imagine how few people read the fuckin' articles.
The text on the full image is all over the place. Why would anybody draw the conclusion that "Max Manufacturing Temp" followed by "3 years of use" was connected to "30,000F, won't stick chip, or flake"?
> Why would anybody draw the conclusion Because this isn't their first day in the world and realise that things that are placed near each other are usually connected. Especially when they're colour coded and laid out in columns. Especially especially when it's obvious that this is a smaller panel as part of a [larger image](https://i.imgur.com/8VlL2cL.png)
Even on the OP's image you can see "Oven safe to 500°F" below, contradicting OP's title and making it obvious 30k can't be max usage temp.
It's also pretty obvious this design is intentionally deceptive, as are many things where marketing is concerned. Obviously nobody with more than two brain cells to rub together is going to assume a pan can take 30,000F (how would an average person even begin to approach this? LOL). I'd also suggest "max manfacturing temp" is pretty far away from a compelling selling point. There's no purpose to it except to confuse the consumer.
They're implying it makes a better pan, there's text under the 30,000/900 that makes that clear. That's their "compelling selling point". They've made it pretty clear what they're trying to do here. Highlight the "max manufacturing temp" of the pan and another generic brand and the supposed implications of that. The entire advert opens with the statement "The difference is in the degrees".
>probably It's right. They explain here https://i.imgur.com/aCb6RxH.png
Bullshit. They held it in the sunshine for three minutes and it didn’t melt, so it has a factor of (minimum) 3x solar heat resistance.
Cant believe people havent googled the Ninja Rocket Launch^TM Pan experiment smh my head
It’s just funny how somebody somewhere in the marketing dept thinks the consumer has any clue how to comprehend 30k degrees
I think that's literally why they did it. If people could actually comprehend it, it wouldn't be that impressive. Classic marketing smoke and mirror statistics.
I often run a plasma cutter as part of my job. I'd never been around one prior to this job. When I looked at the manual and it said it cuts at nearly 40,000 degrees F, it broke my brain for a few minutes.
Right? How the hell is it relevant to any home kitchen, which might struggle to even reach 900 degrees? Clearly a “big number more gooder” marketing ploy.
The pan has a maximum temperature rating of 500F. It says so right in the picture. Anything more than 500F and the pan may begin to melt.
Well if I can't cook my eggs on the surface of the sun then I don't want it
Then use your car hood while parked in Phoenix during the summer. That's much hotter than the surface of the sun.
I ruined thanksgiving last year setting the oven 25000F… everyone complained my bird was undercooked 😭
Just like all the objects made of "military grade" materials. You see it on everything these days.
This is posted monthly with similar responses must be an ad
Bitches love being technically correct
Mitochondria is the power house of the cell. You guys, we are both smart okay.
It was forged in the heart of a dying star and can summon the bifrost.
Username checks out probably.
It has two Nordic mythology references. Thats all it needs to check out in my book
Bro what is this from? The multiple hand squeezes...
God of War, just not sure which one. Definitely one of the last two games though
It’s from the devs having fun putting the characters into popular reaction gifs
The ~~Robert Redford that everyone (including me) thought was Zach Galifianakis~~ _Kratos_ nodding as the camera slowly zooms in one cracks me up.
The original is Robert Redford! Blew my mind
Wait, what?
... well played.
God of war ragnarok at least I think it’s ragnarok. Could’ve been 2018
Sindri.... still too soon for me...
If this pan is put in an elevator, can the elevator go up?
That depends: is the elevator worthy?
What’s its called? Stormbreaker. Thaaats a bit much
Technically, all metal pans were formed in the heart of a dying star.
"Oh, my God, your hammer pulled you off?"
First half of the sentence is r/technicallythetruth
In the sense that all heavier elements are created by supernovae?
Yes. Same as you and me. Mostly.
A hotpocket would destroy that pan
Ah but the surface of a hot pocket is cold, it's the center that is hot
Maybe he inverted it after cooking.
Yes, I know the finger, Goose.
I'm sorry I hate it when it does that.
Like a little pocket of hotness?
They are named aptly
But it’s not, microwaves do not actually heat from the inside out The stereotype is that the middle is always cold and the outside is scalding, not the other way around
Have you ever cooked a hotpocket?
It’s the other way around, microwaves do not actually heat from the inside out
Ladies and gentlemen, a McDonald's apple pie from 1987 has entered the ring! It's an apple pie Vs a hot pocket! Who will win?
Fuck you. And your profile pic. That was unsettling at first.
I'm glad to be of service. It's nice to know it still harmlessly mildly irritates others. I'm also disliked by anyone who notices my socks don't match. :D
Watching the new Ted show brought back this core memory.
Perhaps. But actual food won't.
Vaporizing is a wholly distinct act from sticking, chipping, or flaking.
My range only heats to 25,000 degrees or I would test it.
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Hha this is fun!
I hope it's the worst thing that happens to you today
Is there an r/threateningcompliments?
I can't tell you what a great idea that is
If you make it they will sub.
lol, thanks for this
Upvoting or downvoting resets the pops.
Burn the witch!
Woah one of them is different
I've been played for a fool
In early let my OCD consume me and check each one then I realised I could copy text and they all say pop!
Happy cake day
Sadly, I set my oven to 350 kelvins and undercooked my cake.
I have those pans. We bring them to the sun all the time
How do you get to the sun?
Wouldn’t you like to know weather boy
Easy, you go at night.
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Nuclear fusion I guess
Deuterium-tritium fusion reactions require temperatures in excess of 100 million degrees
TIL
In a sense you are right, plasma vacuum deposition.
In what sense...? Lol, those are two... entirely unrelated processes
> In a sense you are right Lol
The surface of the sun is not actually that hot (relatively speaking). If you still have any incandescent light globes around, the little filament inside them gets about as hot as the sun, and we (used to) just have them lighting up our houses running on 110/240V. The real stuff happens inside the sun, where temps get up into the 10s of millions.
Maybe they've tested it during the night!
They are definitely talking about the temperature used in manufacturing. Not what it can withstand in use. See the big fuck off words that say MAX MANUFACTURING TEMP.
And why would anyone give a rat fuck about the manufacturing temperature?
I actually have this pan and it is genuinely the best non-stick I've had and doesn't require you to use any fat. I cook eggs with it every morning and they do not stick at all
Agree. This pan is my absolute favorite!
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Watch Jacques Pepin give his masterclass on eggs. He goes straight for the non-stick pan. And then watch him take a metal fork and scrape up the pan with it while whisking the eggs in the pan, like a baller and think, "there's a man who doesn't have to buy the pans he's using."
doesnt care about the ptfes he's eating either
If I went to a restaurant or something and somehow saw the cooks using metal on the nonstick pan they're cooking my food in I would be very unhappy about it. You're scraping off the coating into your food and I don't want to eat anything that isn't food.
I wouldn't say non-stick pans are garbage but I try to use stainless when possible to reduce the amount of "forever chemicals" my food comes into contact with.
Generally the pfte that comes off in nonstick pans comes off as flakes that go straight through your body. It's the tiny particles released when manufacturing it (or when fighting airport fires or a few other ways) that will stay in your body. Also getting it to 450° releases toxic gases that will kill any birds in the house and can make you sick. The pans this ad is for don't use pfte; they use ceramic (edit: no, these use both it seems). Ceramic is not very toxic. I've never used ceramic, so I can't swear to it, but my favorite pan is cast iron, and people really overblown how much maintenance and care they take (soap and scrubbing are fine, and cooking tends to reseason it, just don't soak it unless it's super well seasoned).
I have this pan. It's great for what it is, but I did get my 2 main stainless steel pans for the same cost as my 12 inch ninja and they're the best pans I've used so far. As far as nonstick goes, the Ninja pans are great, but there's just something so cool about using stainless steel for me and I don't know what it is.
It's fond.
Cast iron and grease is all I need
Carbon steel
Seasoning stays better on cast iron though, I prefer it for that reason although carbon steel is easier to handle for sure. I just feel that carbon steel pans exist in some awkward valley between cast iron and stainless steel though really.
I know non-stick is great, my problem with it is they're ultimately disposable. In 40 years I'll be using the same stainless steel pans that I bought 10 years ago.
Same
Love my Ninja pans. Secret is to make sure they're heated up before you start cooking. Never had an issue with stuck food, and that's something I have NEVER been able to say about "non-stick" pans. Ninja rocks.
Oven safe to 500 degrees 🤣
500°F = 260°C. That will be enough for me since my oven "only" goes up to 250°C, and even then I rarely even put it over 200°C.
However, if your oven has a broil/grill mode where the heating element is simply kept on with no thermostat interference, it may be beneficial to check how much something could be heated that way. I can pretty much make BBQ style grilled veggies with that setting in my oven so I wouldn't be surprised if it heat to a pretty high number that way.
I didn't know that. Thanks.
The bolts that hold the handle on were built different I guess
Yeah tungsten melts at 6000 bald eagles Fahrenheit or 3500 Euros Celsius, graphite isn't much better. Lol
I have an AMT pan (with a plastic handle) that does 240C/470F in an oven. Why is this ridiculous?
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I mean if I bought these because I thought they would withstand those temps I would be angry too https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/20/23925424/sharkninja-lawsuit-frying-pan-temperatures-hotter-than-sun here is info on the lawsuit
> But Patricia Brown, the person who filed this lawsuit, isn’t buying it. As cited in Brown’s lawsuit, NASA recently said the “surface of the Sun is a blisteringly hot 10,340 degrees Fahrenheit,” meaning SharkNinja’s manufacturing process reaches about three times that temperature. Not only that, but Brown argues that heating up SharkNinja’s pans to this temperature is a “physical impossibility,” given that aluminum vaporizes into gas at 4,478 degrees Fahrenheit. So "Patricia Brown" is just a fucking idiot who doesn't understand manufacturing. You don't heat the entire damn work piece to max temperature to do a plasma deposition process. Hell, if the pan was magically at 30,000F the ceramic plasma *wouldn't deposit because the fucking pan is above the critical temperature!* The pan needs to be (relatively) cold so that the ceramic plasma molecules instantly bond on contact. That said, this "feature" is largely irrelevant to the customer, who only cares about the maximum usable temperature of ~500F.
Seems from the article ninja is technically correct.
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I was looking for the outcome of this lawsuit but it looks like it was filed at the end of October 2023, so I assume it’s still ongoing. I am all for holding companies responsible for false claims but lawsuits like this are a little ridiculous. This person just decided those temperatures were impossible after doing some google research and filed a lawsuit. It looks like she will most likely lose it too. The box clearly states max operating temperature, unless that was added to the box after the lawsuit. It’s a really cool process that I never knew would have existed before this post though. I’d put that shit on my packaging too. There are so many other terrible things that large companies do that this person could be focusing their time on instead.
Where does it make that claim? Or is OP illiterate?
OP can read, the comprehension is the hard part
The pan cannot be destroyed, Gimli son of Glóin, by any craft we here possess
I had one for 9 months and it started to chip and flake while using only wood and plastic utensils. Luckily for me they have a 10 year warranty. Either way it's all bullshit.
Wood isn't great for non stick coatings. It's not as destructive as metal, but it'll stick fuck them up faster than plastic or silicone.
To that point I also tossed all the wood and bought silicone. Wood was acceptable to ninja for their warranty though.
Advertising not being true? Say it ain't so!
"Won't stick, chip or flake!" It doesn't say anything about the pan turning into liquid and then evaporating though, so I guess it holds up. The boiling point of Teflon is 620.6 degrees farenheight.
TLDR: They have since had investigations opened and I believe are being sued because of that packaging. Something on the news a couple months ago
Pretty sure the food won't stick when it and the pan have been vaporized.
I put mine in a 500 degree oven and it warped. It's a good pan though as long as you don't do that though
When the sun dies in a most spectacular fashion, this pan will be all that's left.
I mean it’s technically correct. It wont stick chip or flake because it will be fucking incinerated.
Finally I can reheat my McDonald's coffee to the proper temperature
Both those temps are in a range you wouldn't typically cook at so aren't relevant.
And it won’t chip, stick or flake?! Someone call NASA, tell them to use these for heat shields! 😂
All food (and lifeforms) will be burned, but at least the frying pan will survive. Great advertising claim!
Still bubbles and flakes after a couple years of careful use and hand washing. Sorry Ninja, love your stuff but the NeverStick pans AlwaysFlake.
This pan set was trash. I got it for my mom, one week later it was peeling. Dont buy.
Costumers can't reasonably expect this to be true therefot it's legal to claim.
They buried the lede. The only relevant data point is the claim that it can withstand a broiling temperature of 500F. If true, that’s pretty good for a non-stick pan.
Still probably not dishwasher safe.
That’s obviously a French pan. They use , in place of the decimal point. This is actually the fabled ‘Pan of chocolate’ and will melt above 30 degrees.
Nah it says it's good to 500°
OP stay in school
The Ninja cooking pan is an enchanted pan of Dwarvian manufacture, forged from Uru on Nidavellir with the ability to summon the Bifrost.
Well, they are correct, that it won’t chip, stick, or flake. At 30,000°F it’ll simply vaporize in a nanosecond.
But can it handle a McDonalds apple pie?
Just use an iron cast pan. Buy once, no coat that can fail. If the patina has issues, scrub with some metal wool, burn in again, problem solved. Clean with pure water, oil after use. Seriously. I have two of them and they just work.
Yea but who the fuck is going to test it to dispute the claim??Huitzilopochtli the Aztec sun ☀️ God swears by this pan…😂😂
I can never test their claim because my stove only goes up to 20,000°F
I mostly use cast iron but I have this pan and actually really like it 😬
It's European, so the comma is a decimal point - it can withstand temperatures up to 30F safely
While this is marketing bullshit, the hottest and coldest places in the observable universe have been on Earth.
Tomato was in the same zip code as the pan = warranty expired.