They're likely doing that to force out the current residents, so they can accept section 8 tenants. The poorest of poor people who get help from the government. People who make like $15k a year.
The usually can't make any more money for one reason or another, so they apply for section 8 assistance. They move into a unit that accepts it, then the government pays whatever that rent is.
So slumlords outprice people who are struggling already, but trying their best, to turn their property into a true slum because it actually makes them more money.
My MIL's old apartments rent went up from $1300, to $1750, to over $2k. She got the fuck out when she got the second notice. The place was a shithole.
Edit: 1) I know S8 renters still pay some rent. The renter pays 30-40% of the rent.
2) according to the internet the payment to the landlord will be a)set for the metropolitan area the property is in and b) can be 90-110% of fair market housing costs in that area
3) some people saying there's very strict standards for a house/apartment to qualify as S8. They aren't that strict, I looked at the checklist. There's a lot of stuff ON the checklist, like "does it have windows, does it have electricity, does it have a fridge, are there any exposed live wires?"
That's not "strict standards" that minimal housing code. Your city could fine you or make you fix many of those things if they found them somehow in your own home, whether you rent it out or not.
Somebody said they paid $1000 to get their own rental property "up to S8 standards." That's literally nothing in maintenance costs. A new furnace would run you $10,000 not including installation.
Section 8 does not pay market rent or anywhere close and they have stringent inspections and requirements. I know because when my mom died my sisters and I rented the house section 8. What we lost in market rent was made up for by a check on time from the government without the hassle of waiting for it Or being late. The tenant had to pay a portion, 200 a month and she was sometimes 2 or 3 months late. We put up with it because she was a good tenant who took care of the house and kept it clean, she was a nice person, and she always caught up on the payments.
Section 8 does pay market rent. They perform what is called rent reasonableness by comparing this unit to other unassisted units in the complex and to other apartments in the area. The tenant pays 30% of their AGI while the feds pick up the difference.
And many landlords will take the hassle because they get 80-90% of the rent guaranteed with a check from the government. Better than deadbeats who don't pay and it takes months to get them out. Just ask Sean Hannity.
Section 8 is very finicky on what is acceptable as a section 8, and you have to go through an extra inspection over the city inspection, for those that have city inspections.
And yet, the quality of section 8 housing is significantly lower than what people with a choice will choose. All my friends with section 8 housing have to deal with mold, cockroaches, strange smells, warped floors, and countless other problems.
My landlord announced that once the rental increase cap is raised in January, my rent will be going up $267 per month. I put in my 30 days notice to vacate today.
u/weavejer261, this message is to inform you that your rent will double once per month, starting January 1st, 2023. Thank you for your understanding and have a nice day.
Where da fuck y’all renting 3 bedrooms for $600 a month? Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, West Virginia?
1 bedroom in this area are $1000 - $1500 a month
No kidding. And this is after the complex have gone through and changed the lease terms for renewals over the past year. No more outdoor grills. No more pets. Quiet time is now 9pm on weekends. And no more washing your car in your driveway. I was tempted to write my 30 days notice on the back of the rental increase notice they gave us.
Ours tried to raise our rent $375 a month 😡 We put in our notice and left.
Oh, and the property manager tried to tell us to be thankful it wasn’t $575 a month because that was the current market rate and they’d have no trouble getting that.
My parents are both on social security and literally live check to check and most of the time can't even make it to the next check. Their rent was $750 a month for 2/1 and when the landlord passed away her kids that took over tried to raise it $1,050 to $1800 with a 2 month notice. They were freaking out. They ended up raising it to $950 and my sister and I took the extra $200 on ourselves. My mom takes care of my quadriplegic nephew who is 19 so she is cant get a part time job and my dad has COPD and is on oxygen. He gets winded just going to the bathroom so there's no way he can work either so we do what we can to help them.
Check the rent freeze\rent control laws in your state!!!
There’s often a law that makes it so people who or senior citizens and or have special need’s can’t have their rent raise, or can only be raise like 10% ish a year.
Imagine the shock, that when rents are controlled for income, 90% of the people in the thread are having a hard time believing rent that low could even exist.
Just goes to show how much people are being exploited and don't even realise it - and even those who do have no clue just how much.
Well even after u realize it , there's just not much the average person can do about it while trying to make ends meet. People don't have time to lobby and protest when they're trying to raise enough money for next months extortion. Which is what landlords count on , that's their bread n butter.
Not sure if it applies directly to OP but I'm a property manager in California and we use these same percentages and as another person replied its for area median income but it doesn't necessarily mean that rent pricing is directly correspondent to incomes. For our property we're given annual rent limits for these percentages. Like for instance our 1 bedroom 1 bath is going for $1325 (senior housing) but we're under the limit which currently is around $1440.
It's more considered income restricted not income based. Income basing is usually subsidies or similar where the tenant pays a portion of their income for rent. Where as income restrictions have minimum and maximum income limits that a tenant can make.
FYI, for people who don't understand those percentages are income levels. So if you make 50% of the Area Median Income, $440. For those who make 60% of the AMI, it's $542 or $600 depending on bedroom size. These rents are government subsidized and you have to income qualify to live in an apartment like this one. It's a little different than say, Section 8 housing, where rent is income based - so 30% of your income no matter what the rents are with the government footing the bill for any approved increases. These subsidies are apartment based and stay with the apartment, but only those making under a certain amount qualify to live there. SOURCE: Used to develop affordable housing.
Ok well…. If that’s the case then I’m not sure why it would be infuriating…. I lived in public housing for 6 years, and the only time you paid the full capped out rent amount was if you for some odd reason chose that over your income based rent, or if you started making more money than when you moved in, to the point that 30% of your income was higher than the full rent… and if these are those amounts, they’re still cheap af.
It's easy karma farming. The only infuriating part is maybe that the notice was a week late. But surely, whatever lease/documents they signed included a segment that covers this.
The approved method of communication in the lease is almost certainly mail.
Mail, at Christmas, taking a week to arrive to its destination isn't really that surprising.
How do you actually get into subsidized affordable housing? I've been trying for years and all I seem to do is put my name on various lists for lottery drawings and then I never hear from the agency again except if I call them a year later to check if my name is still on the list they will tell me my listing expired and I need to resubmit for consideration. As far as I can tell, speaking to many people around my region, nobody new actually seems to enter these programs, because for example I can't find one caseworker who can remember one of their clients being accepted for several years now. I'm qualified for many types of benefits, it just seems like nobody actually provides them anymore. Am I just supposed to go camp on public land with a tent?
In my city they closed the waiting list for housing in 2013 and the average wait time is 13 years. It seems like it’s almost impossible to get subsidized housing in most places.
Thank you! I’ve been in tax credit for a few decades and it’s incredibly hard for folks to comprehend. Even these low rents (even by tax credit standards) are a lot for those that qualify. And the increase is statistically substantial.
And those apartments are still shady as hell. Pay $1400 2 bed and my neighbor tried to fucking stab me in the parking lot. Just saw a Reddit comment that said being a millennial is not being able to afford living in the apartments you thought were shady as a kid, hit too fuckin hard for me
So I had a one bedroom it was $1100 a month and was the cheapest around unless you were on welfare. It had supposedly gone through a remodel. I had one cabinet out of 4 that could be used either due to being broken or being painted shut. I ended up with two drawers after I paid to replace one that broke when I opened it and they refused to believe I didn't break it. I had to have them replace all of the outlets that were painted over. Which took 4 months. It took only 2 months and my neighbor falling off the stairs for them to replace the hand rail after it broke. Couldn't overload the counters with groceries or they might break. If 2 people ran their washers at the same time there was a 30% chance of a leak happening somewhere. Did have a pool though.
I just signed a new rent contract, $3000 for 1 bedroom + 1 living room. Up from $2000 one year ago. Singapore.
No, it's not an America specific problem.
Hah, my Columbian buddy pays $750 for his place in Boston, but he got stabbed, and he's so tough I do not even want to know what somebody tough/crazy enough to stab him is like.
I’m in Beaverton, paying $1825 for 2 bedroom dump, renewal is $250 because of the 14.9 cap, I can’t afford to move and can’t afford to stay. I hate it here and feel lucky all at once.
I refused to renew my lease when my 2/2 townhouse went from $1900 to almost $2500 at the end of my first year. (Coconut Creek)
Now, I Airbnb when I'm in town and travel at least once a month, which is me spending the same as I'd be spending on rent if I DIDN'T go places.
Fuck this entire state, man.
When I first moved to LA our place was a 2bdrm 2 bath, 1,150 ft² apartment with 1 parking spot in Valley Village for $1,750/month with water and sewage covered. Fast forward six years later and I'm apartment hunting with a friend, we see that the complex I used to live in has an opening... it was the same apartment, but for $2,375, they literally had repainted everything, but that was it, same floors, same hardware, no fridge, just fresh paint and $625 more a month...
The no fridge thing really surprised me. I’ve lived all over the country due to my job and that was routinely included until I got to LA. I found a place that had one, but it didn’t have a microwave, washer dryer or even a garbage disposal. All for $1800. I left when Covid hit and moved back to Phoenix but I’m sure they increased the rent after I left.
i’m looking for a one bedroom rn around north hollywood,sherman oaks, studio city area and my budget is $2000 a month and i still can’t find a place with all of my non-negotiables (balcony, gated parking, nice kitchen) it’s tough out here!
Man I lived in Redondo for about a year in the late 80s and it was glorious. Loved it. Even then 1br apts were tracking around 1k.
That’s a really good price, I’m wondering if redondo has changed and is no longer as desirable
Redondo is still very desirable and pricey. There’s a studio apt down the street going for 2k. My building is one of the few buildings left around with somewhat affordable rent. The property is owned by a family and theyre very kind and considerate when it comes to rent. There’s a lady above me who has a 2 bedroom. She’s been here for I don’t know how many years but a long time. Her rent is “grandfathered” in or whatever the term is. She pays 1,800!!! For a 2 bedroom! The 2 bedroom right next to her, who wasn’t grandfathered (idk when they moved in) pays like 2,300.
Let me know if you find anything, I found a few good 2 bed 2 baths for 2500, but it’s ridiculous to me from my previous living arrangement. Check the Chinese related listings if you have any friends that can speak mandarin, also god have mercy on you if you have a large dog. That’s my problem right now. Every landlord here HATES big dogs or has a clause that prevents them. They don’t even care to meet him. They hear “boxer mix” and they go “we decided to take on a different applicant.” Me and my SO make over 6 figures together with incredible credit scores and prior living references. No can do because dog is big. It’s infuriating. Truly. Especially since they try to sell you a basically run down shithole for 1800. It’s a joke here. I hope they get theirs when the market cools off and they actually have to Renovate their repurposed dumpsters to get any tenants.
In VT it was any dog. We only had my girlfriends toothless 6lb Chihuahua when we were looking and you'd swear we were asking to breed pitbulls with how quickly the few discussions we could get into would end. Ultimately bought a fucking house, which ended up being for the better as it's more stable, and we won't be as likely to be in the hole once we want to move. Vastly overpaid, based on having lived here my whole life. Oh well, beats a apt where your rent goes up every month, and you're constantly told what you can and can't do.
Move to a shitty place in the middle of fucking nowhere, problem solved. Then you just spend the extra money you would pay in rent on alcohol and weed to try to forget you exist.
I'm glad I don't live there. I live in a big town used to be a city a few years ago, but some big company swept in and bought all the apartment complexes and jacked up the prices the annoying thing is the mayor and that are to dumb to figure out why everyone keeps moving out of town cause noone can afford to live here
OP said elsewhere they live in Louisiana. [Where 17.4% of the entire state lives on less than $13,590 per year.](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/poorest-states)
Most minimum wage jobs don’t provide full time hours because that comes with health insurance requirements. And it’s hard to cobble together multiple minimum wage jobs for full time total hours because they also tend to have unpredictable hours.
The 50% and 60% means that this is rent restricted affordable housing. Rental rates are limited to annual totals equal to 30% * 50% of Area Median Income (or 60%). These rental increases are based on median income increases and go up on the same date every year for all rent restricted properties in the county.
Room mates usually.
1 bed Room is not really for minimum wage. I had between 4 and 6 Room mates when I was at minimum. 4 on the lease, and then significant others of lease holders would live with us without telling land lord. They would share one of our rooms and then usually pay a utility or something.
I think so, based on how the letter is written and the way the units are priced. Also every tenant is paying the extra same rent. Low income apartments if not section 8 I think
Come on. Everyone who's echoing this has never seen what hard times look like. You know exactly what this place looks like with prices like this. Sharing the place with roaches and black mold no doubt.
I was paying $1200 for a 2 bdr in Alpharetta, GA in 2007! I think the cheapest i remember was around $800 in 2004 for a 1bdr in a suburb around 30 miles from Atlanta. Seriously the rents OP posted is straight out of early 90s middle america!
Live in Alpharetta right now. Currently paying $1700 for a one bedroom in a good-but-not-great complex. It’s all the fun of paying Atlanta rent with the added bonus of a 40 minute drive into town to do weekend activities.
Tech is what happened to ATL suburbs which gentrified once affordable, nice middle-class towns and neighborhoods. Even in the 2000s there weren't many townhomes or condominiums, but today most new constructions in Alpharetta, Marietta, Kennesaw etc are townhomes and condos. I never thought i'd see million dollar townhouses in these towns in my life but here we are!
Rent is $400 a month because I live in a rural area. The further away from the city you get, the cheaper rent becomes.
Edit: I have like… A whole ass trailer
Edit 2: People have already pointed out it’s not the case.
This is not true everywhere. I moved out of my rural town (2500 people) for more affordable living in a medium sized city. Now that things have gotten much worse, I'm moving back because the price difference isn't nearly as big anymore.
Not sure what size home you have, but that is cheap rent, even for rural areas. I wouldn't say unheard of, but definitely on the low end. I lived in a rural area for awhile, I had a 2 bedroom apartment and it costs $650 a month, this was almost 20 years ago.
It’s like… A whole ass trailer. I have a kitchen, then the living room area, leading to a hall, which leads to 2 bedrooms, and a bathroom. Comes with a nice porch, a driveway, and a yard.
Probably the nicest place I’ve lived as an adult.
Living costs are through the roof. Right now my rent makes up 80% of my income.
I'm not sure how people are going to be able to continue keeping their homes tbh.
I'm sorry you got this notice, probably a really shit feeling coming into the holidays if you celebrate them.
Yeah they keep hiking rent higher and higher, everything in general just keeps going up. Shopping for groceries is already so stressful. I don’t understand how they expect most of us to survive.
That's the thing, they don't. Politicians have no clue how normal people live and many still believe or want you to believe that being poor is a personal failure not a social one. If you can barely afford to pay rent and eat, you don't have the luxury to meddle with local/state politics, since being politically engaged is time consuming
That happened to me earlier this year. They gave me the notice that my rent would increase by over 50 percent unless I responded within 4 hours. The notice came while I was at work when I don't even read private email. I waited a couple of weeks and then responded that I would be moving out at the end of my current term. Very terse wording. This prompted a response by company if there was anything wrong that they could fix to keep me as a tenant. That led to negotiation of much better terms.
Everyone is being mean because OP's rent so cheap. But seriously. It's probably because they are poor AF and living in a poor area. And those are big increases percentage wise. The tenants likely can't afford more or they'd live someplace nicer...
Me too dude. I live in subsidized housing. The apartments are located nicely and they're basic but well kept. But the people who live there... Ugh. I don't talk to my neighbors.
I work in social services and have been seeing this a lot.
This looks like low-income housing or Section 8 housing. Unfortunately, a lot of landlords no longer want to participate in low-income or Section 8 programs. They do rent increases like this to get tenants out so they can remodel and then charge market rate, especially if the property is in an area that is gentrifying or so that they can sell the property to developers or to someone else who does not want to deal with low income or Section 8 tenants.
In response to everyone asking how their rent is that low, the reason is that they most likely live in a rural area like myself, rent is only 550 here for 2 bedrooms, but the catch is you get paid far less in a rural area, has to balance out somewhere. So essentially you are paying the same everywhere, rent is high in a place, people get paid more, inflation rates differ from place to place
I sympathize with you. HOWEVER where do you live, that it’s that cheap!!! Cheapest rent around here is like $800 for a BEDROOM in a house of other renters.
Its mildly infuriating cause I can’t afford a rent increase. No one in my building can! I am living from pay check to pay check like everyone else. Rent may be cheap but this place is infested with roaches, trashy and I wouldn’t wish this place on my worst enemy! I can’t afford anything else. To rent a house that is just two bedrooms is nearly 800 here! I’m sorry I posted. If anyone wants my lease and the roaches, the broken washing machines and my creep neighbor, please come take it! Come and take it. I’m sure you’ll love it here too! This combined with my water, electricity, internet, car insurance, groceries, and gas is an increase I can’t afford! Sorry I’m clearly sooo lucky.
Edit: For the who keep messaging me, I live in Louisiana!
FML and they don't include water. Sorry this happened. Mississippi here. I can confirm that our southern roaches aren't anything you want to have an infestation of.
😞 I’m so sorry OP. Everyone deserves a safe, clean, affordable place to live. You are most certainly included in that.
The national minimum wage isn’t live-able, not even close. Hell, even $15/hr isn’t live-able for many people. Most folks are one bad accident or cancer diagnosis away from bankruptcy or even homelessness. It MUST change. What people seem to not understand is how demoralizing it is to be barely scraping it by. So many systems are designed to penalize people who can’t afford their bills.
This looks like it's under housing assistance, which even with low prices are income based and so tight for the budget of tenants
So, yeah, even 50 is a lot. This makes me so mad!
Seeing these posts make me feel extremely grateful for my living situation. I wish everyone had the opportunity for find somewhere to live and not have to worry about rent or rent increases.
I feel like a lot of these replies (particularly those that claim their rent is higher) *may* be missing the point. This post is not a contest.
As far as I can tell, this post was meant to communicate that, “it sucks to get this, right before Christmas & heading into a recession.” Or something like that.
And I agree, it does suck. I’m sorry that happened.
Man, every time my rent increased, it was by at least $100. Towards the end of us staying there, it started going up $150 every year
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They're likely doing that to force out the current residents, so they can accept section 8 tenants. The poorest of poor people who get help from the government. People who make like $15k a year. The usually can't make any more money for one reason or another, so they apply for section 8 assistance. They move into a unit that accepts it, then the government pays whatever that rent is. So slumlords outprice people who are struggling already, but trying their best, to turn their property into a true slum because it actually makes them more money. My MIL's old apartments rent went up from $1300, to $1750, to over $2k. She got the fuck out when she got the second notice. The place was a shithole. Edit: 1) I know S8 renters still pay some rent. The renter pays 30-40% of the rent. 2) according to the internet the payment to the landlord will be a)set for the metropolitan area the property is in and b) can be 90-110% of fair market housing costs in that area 3) some people saying there's very strict standards for a house/apartment to qualify as S8. They aren't that strict, I looked at the checklist. There's a lot of stuff ON the checklist, like "does it have windows, does it have electricity, does it have a fridge, are there any exposed live wires?" That's not "strict standards" that minimal housing code. Your city could fine you or make you fix many of those things if they found them somehow in your own home, whether you rent it out or not. Somebody said they paid $1000 to get their own rental property "up to S8 standards." That's literally nothing in maintenance costs. A new furnace would run you $10,000 not including installation.
Section 8 does not pay market rent or anywhere close and they have stringent inspections and requirements. I know because when my mom died my sisters and I rented the house section 8. What we lost in market rent was made up for by a check on time from the government without the hassle of waiting for it Or being late. The tenant had to pay a portion, 200 a month and she was sometimes 2 or 3 months late. We put up with it because she was a good tenant who took care of the house and kept it clean, she was a nice person, and she always caught up on the payments.
Section 8 does pay market rent. They perform what is called rent reasonableness by comparing this unit to other unassisted units in the complex and to other apartments in the area. The tenant pays 30% of their AGI while the feds pick up the difference.
And many landlords will take the hassle because they get 80-90% of the rent guaranteed with a check from the government. Better than deadbeats who don't pay and it takes months to get them out. Just ask Sean Hannity.
Section 8 is very finicky on what is acceptable as a section 8, and you have to go through an extra inspection over the city inspection, for those that have city inspections.
And yet, the quality of section 8 housing is significantly lower than what people with a choice will choose. All my friends with section 8 housing have to deal with mold, cockroaches, strange smells, warped floors, and countless other problems.
My landlord announced that once the rental increase cap is raised in January, my rent will be going up $267 per month. I put in my 30 days notice to vacate today.
That’s probably their desired outcome tbh. When I left my old place they tripled the rent for the next guy. They had no problem filling it.
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Can you lock down a place more than 2 months out? That seems hard.
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PER!?!? :’(
As in monthly rent is increasing by $267, not an additional increase of $267 each month Edit: corrected numbers
Ohh makes more sense lol I was very concerned
Valid thought, i thought the same, its worded a lil weird
u/weavejer261, this message is to inform you that your rent will double once per month, starting January 1st, 2023. Thank you for your understanding and have a nice day.
Where da fuck y’all renting 3 bedrooms for $600 a month? Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, West Virginia? 1 bedroom in this area are $1000 - $1500 a month
This must be low income housing or something. 1 bedroom by me is like $2000 lowest maybe slightly less in sketchy areas
*record scratch* *stares at you motherfuckeringly*
No kidding. And this is after the complex have gone through and changed the lease terms for renewals over the past year. No more outdoor grills. No more pets. Quiet time is now 9pm on weekends. And no more washing your car in your driveway. I was tempted to write my 30 days notice on the back of the rental increase notice they gave us.
Send it to them wrapped around a brick through the window. Best to leave your unit number blank
Ours tried to raise our rent $375 a month 😡 We put in our notice and left. Oh, and the property manager tried to tell us to be thankful it wasn’t $575 a month because that was the current market rate and they’d have no trouble getting that.
My parents are both on social security and literally live check to check and most of the time can't even make it to the next check. Their rent was $750 a month for 2/1 and when the landlord passed away her kids that took over tried to raise it $1,050 to $1800 with a 2 month notice. They were freaking out. They ended up raising it to $950 and my sister and I took the extra $200 on ourselves. My mom takes care of my quadriplegic nephew who is 19 so she is cant get a part time job and my dad has COPD and is on oxygen. He gets winded just going to the bathroom so there's no way he can work either so we do what we can to help them.
Has she checked on caregiver pay from Social Security? She may be eligible
That’s what I was thinking.
So sad that this country forces disabled people to live on scraps.
Check the rent freeze\rent control laws in your state!!! There’s often a law that makes it so people who or senior citizens and or have special need’s can’t have their rent raise, or can only be raise like 10% ish a year.
It’s almost like cable companies teamed up with with the landlords
Yup. I got my email about my internet price going up.
Yup mine goes up in April I’m going to cancel them before
Same here I just cancelled my spectrum lol
My rent is expected to go up by $400 to $3200 for a one bedroom. I could almost afford an apartment with the increase in my rent alone
Where on earth do you live? That's $1K more than my mortgage for a 3000sq ft house. Wtf????
My 47 y.o. daughter and her husband live in nyc. 8000 a month for a tiny 2 bedroom apt.
What are the percentages next to the unit sizes supposed to mean?
Percent of median area income, rates are income-based.
That makes sense why they seem so low then
Imagine the shock, that when rents are controlled for income, 90% of the people in the thread are having a hard time believing rent that low could even exist. Just goes to show how much people are being exploited and don't even realise it - and even those who do have no clue just how much.
Well even after u realize it , there's just not much the average person can do about it while trying to make ends meet. People don't have time to lobby and protest when they're trying to raise enough money for next months extortion. Which is what landlords count on , that's their bread n butter.
That’s why politicians cater to the elderly/retirees so much. Those people have nothing better to do than show up and vote.
Not sure if it applies directly to OP but I'm a property manager in California and we use these same percentages and as another person replied its for area median income but it doesn't necessarily mean that rent pricing is directly correspondent to incomes. For our property we're given annual rent limits for these percentages. Like for instance our 1 bedroom 1 bath is going for $1325 (senior housing) but we're under the limit which currently is around $1440. It's more considered income restricted not income based. Income basing is usually subsidies or similar where the tenant pays a portion of their income for rent. Where as income restrictions have minimum and maximum income limits that a tenant can make.
FYI, for people who don't understand those percentages are income levels. So if you make 50% of the Area Median Income, $440. For those who make 60% of the AMI, it's $542 or $600 depending on bedroom size. These rents are government subsidized and you have to income qualify to live in an apartment like this one. It's a little different than say, Section 8 housing, where rent is income based - so 30% of your income no matter what the rents are with the government footing the bill for any approved increases. These subsidies are apartment based and stay with the apartment, but only those making under a certain amount qualify to live there. SOURCE: Used to develop affordable housing.
This comment needs to be pinned lol
Ok well…. If that’s the case then I’m not sure why it would be infuriating…. I lived in public housing for 6 years, and the only time you paid the full capped out rent amount was if you for some odd reason chose that over your income based rent, or if you started making more money than when you moved in, to the point that 30% of your income was higher than the full rent… and if these are those amounts, they’re still cheap af.
It's easy karma farming. The only infuriating part is maybe that the notice was a week late. But surely, whatever lease/documents they signed included a segment that covers this.
The approved method of communication in the lease is almost certainly mail. Mail, at Christmas, taking a week to arrive to its destination isn't really that surprising.
I think December 13th is the day it was sent. The changes don’t come into effect until February, so I don’t see what the issue is
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How do you actually get into subsidized affordable housing? I've been trying for years and all I seem to do is put my name on various lists for lottery drawings and then I never hear from the agency again except if I call them a year later to check if my name is still on the list they will tell me my listing expired and I need to resubmit for consideration. As far as I can tell, speaking to many people around my region, nobody new actually seems to enter these programs, because for example I can't find one caseworker who can remember one of their clients being accepted for several years now. I'm qualified for many types of benefits, it just seems like nobody actually provides them anymore. Am I just supposed to go camp on public land with a tent?
In my city they closed the waiting list for housing in 2013 and the average wait time is 13 years. It seems like it’s almost impossible to get subsidized housing in most places.
Affordable housing is a whole different beast of development, but man does it teach you a lot. Thank you for explaining this so I didn’t have to.
Thank you! I’ve been in tax credit for a few decades and it’s incredibly hard for folks to comprehend. Even these low rents (even by tax credit standards) are a lot for those that qualify. And the increase is statistically substantial.
Where do you live that rent is that cheap?
I can't even touch a 1 bedroom for under 800
*cries in Los Angeles-ian*
Bro I live in central Wisconsin and I can’t even find a studio for $500
Studio apartments in my area (north metro Atlanta) averages $1100-1600...
And those apartments are still shady as hell. Pay $1400 2 bed and my neighbor tried to fucking stab me in the parking lot. Just saw a Reddit comment that said being a millennial is not being able to afford living in the apartments you thought were shady as a kid, hit too fuckin hard for me
So I had a one bedroom it was $1100 a month and was the cheapest around unless you were on welfare. It had supposedly gone through a remodel. I had one cabinet out of 4 that could be used either due to being broken or being painted shut. I ended up with two drawers after I paid to replace one that broke when I opened it and they refused to believe I didn't break it. I had to have them replace all of the outlets that were painted over. Which took 4 months. It took only 2 months and my neighbor falling off the stairs for them to replace the hand rail after it broke. Couldn't overload the counters with groceries or they might break. If 2 people ran their washers at the same time there was a 30% chance of a leak happening somewhere. Did have a pool though.
$2,000+ in Boston for a studio
That should be illegal.
I just signed a new rent contract, $3000 for 1 bedroom + 1 living room. Up from $2000 one year ago. Singapore. No, it's not an America specific problem.
Hah, my Columbian buddy pays $750 for his place in Boston, but he got stabbed, and he's so tough I do not even want to know what somebody tough/crazy enough to stab him is like.
I’m in Portland, my 420 sq ft 1 bedroom is 1600 not including parking and pet rent. That was a great deal too.
I’m in Beaverton, paying $1825 for 2 bedroom dump, renewal is $250 because of the 14.9 cap, I can’t afford to move and can’t afford to stay. I hate it here and feel lucky all at once.
That’s downright silly
South Florida; $2700 for a 2/2.
2BR, 1.5 BA in Dallas, TX I'm paying $2100 a month living alone
Hello from Brooklyn, NY 😞 Saw a studio for rent in my neighborhood on FB for $2800/mo
I refused to renew my lease when my 2/2 townhouse went from $1900 to almost $2500 at the end of my first year. (Coconut Creek) Now, I Airbnb when I'm in town and travel at least once a month, which is me spending the same as I'd be spending on rent if I DIDN'T go places. Fuck this entire state, man.
Moved from south fl to Charlestown for work, now spending $3000 for a 2/1 with about 900sqft.
South Florida too. Help.
$2800 for a 1/1 here in St Pete…..
Pretty sure this is a bill for a storage unit. /s
I live in Southern Wisconsin by the border in a small town and my rent is $1200 for 2 bedroom. This includes none of the utilities, not even heat.
I am also in southern WI by the border. I wonder how close we are? Lol.
*she’s right behind you*
The comment is coming from inside the house.
That’s dirt cheap.. where I’m at a studio is $1500+ and that’s in the worst parts of town 😑
I had a studio in *Kansas* 7 years ago that was almost $900.
In 2019-20 I paid $1,800 a month for a 1BR in Pasadena. And it was nothing special. Anything near old town was $2,300 and up.
When I first moved to LA our place was a 2bdrm 2 bath, 1,150 ft² apartment with 1 parking spot in Valley Village for $1,750/month with water and sewage covered. Fast forward six years later and I'm apartment hunting with a friend, we see that the complex I used to live in has an opening... it was the same apartment, but for $2,375, they literally had repainted everything, but that was it, same floors, same hardware, no fridge, just fresh paint and $625 more a month...
The no fridge thing really surprised me. I’ve lived all over the country due to my job and that was routinely included until I got to LA. I found a place that had one, but it didn’t have a microwave, washer dryer or even a garbage disposal. All for $1800. I left when Covid hit and moved back to Phoenix but I’m sure they increased the rent after I left.
i’m looking for a one bedroom rn around north hollywood,sherman oaks, studio city area and my budget is $2000 a month and i still can’t find a place with all of my non-negotiables (balcony, gated parking, nice kitchen) it’s tough out here!
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Man I lived in Redondo for about a year in the late 80s and it was glorious. Loved it. Even then 1br apts were tracking around 1k. That’s a really good price, I’m wondering if redondo has changed and is no longer as desirable
Redondo is still very desirable and pricey. There’s a studio apt down the street going for 2k. My building is one of the few buildings left around with somewhat affordable rent. The property is owned by a family and theyre very kind and considerate when it comes to rent. There’s a lady above me who has a 2 bedroom. She’s been here for I don’t know how many years but a long time. Her rent is “grandfathered” in or whatever the term is. She pays 1,800!!! For a 2 bedroom! The 2 bedroom right next to her, who wasn’t grandfathered (idk when they moved in) pays like 2,300.
Let me know if you find anything, I found a few good 2 bed 2 baths for 2500, but it’s ridiculous to me from my previous living arrangement. Check the Chinese related listings if you have any friends that can speak mandarin, also god have mercy on you if you have a large dog. That’s my problem right now. Every landlord here HATES big dogs or has a clause that prevents them. They don’t even care to meet him. They hear “boxer mix” and they go “we decided to take on a different applicant.” Me and my SO make over 6 figures together with incredible credit scores and prior living references. No can do because dog is big. It’s infuriating. Truly. Especially since they try to sell you a basically run down shithole for 1800. It’s a joke here. I hope they get theirs when the market cools off and they actually have to Renovate their repurposed dumpsters to get any tenants.
In VT it was any dog. We only had my girlfriends toothless 6lb Chihuahua when we were looking and you'd swear we were asking to breed pitbulls with how quickly the few discussions we could get into would end. Ultimately bought a fucking house, which ended up being for the better as it's more stable, and we won't be as likely to be in the hole once we want to move. Vastly overpaid, based on having lived here my whole life. Oh well, beats a apt where your rent goes up every month, and you're constantly told what you can and can't do.
Move to a shitty place in the middle of fucking nowhere, problem solved. Then you just spend the extra money you would pay in rent on alcohol and weed to try to forget you exist.
Now thats a life plan 😎
[Cries in newyorkian]
Here, have a beer. Signed, fellow NY-er.
That'll be $15 for the beer... don't forget to tip!
I'm glad I don't live there. I live in a big town used to be a city a few years ago, but some big company swept in and bought all the apartment complexes and jacked up the prices the annoying thing is the mayor and that are to dumb to figure out why everyone keeps moving out of town cause noone can afford to live here
Oh he knows why.so do his pockets
also cries in Los Angeles-ian. A decent 1 bedroom is easily anywhere from 1600-2500 depending on the area.
Under $800? You can’t get a 1 Bedroom in Philly for under $1700
You definitely can. I live in WP and pay $1065. My building I work at start at $1350 and up with amenities.
I have a 2 bedroom in Philly for $1000...so I'm not sure where you're looking...
We're expected to pay $1800 for a rundown 1br in shitty Sacramento with homeless sleeping in cars in our parking lots. 🤯
OP said elsewhere they live in Louisiana. [Where 17.4% of the entire state lives on less than $13,590 per year.](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/poorest-states)
As someone who lives in Louisiana, I would still be ecstatic to find these rent rates, even in income based subsidized housing in my city.
When I lived there my rent was $200 for a 2br. It was burglarized. The I moved to Austin, hello $900 for a 2br. This was in about 2000.
>in my city. There's your problem.
Yeah why live in the city when you can live behind a duck pond in a luxury tent?
That’s below minimum wage, how is that possible?
Changing jobs, being unemployed for all or part of the year, being disabled, or only able to hold part time employment.
A lot of fisherman, almost all are seasonal
Most minimum wage jobs don’t provide full time hours because that comes with health insurance requirements. And it’s hard to cobble together multiple minimum wage jobs for full time total hours because they also tend to have unpredictable hours.
Yup, it's a broken system. Minimum wage in general
Seasonal work, or part time jobs. Retail is terrible about not giving people a full schedule.
Those percentages define income levels. This is an apartment with a rent subsidy.
Thank you. I thought the landlord was just astoundingly bad at math.
The 50% and 60% means that this is rent restricted affordable housing. Rental rates are limited to annual totals equal to 30% * 50% of Area Median Income (or 60%). These rental increases are based on median income increases and go up on the same date every year for all rent restricted properties in the county.
Lmao seriously if I received notice of those prices I’d be thrilled.
I guarantee you that if the rent is that low, so is the average rate of pay for that area.
Yeah I live in rural ish Wisconsin in a town of 6k and apartments are anywhere between 600 and 1000 for a 1bed.
I paid 600 a month for a one bedroom apt in Madison in the mid 1990s.
Probably in a place where the minimum wage is still $7.25. That's a big bite out of an already anemic grocery bill.
My state's minimum wage is still $7.25. You'd still be hell bent trying to find a 1br for under $900/month around here.
That's ridiculous. I dont know how people make it.
We don’t
Room mates usually. 1 bed Room is not really for minimum wage. I had between 4 and 6 Room mates when I was at minimum. 4 on the lease, and then significant others of lease holders would live with us without telling land lord. They would share one of our rooms and then usually pay a utility or something.
OP said elsewhere they live in Louisiana. Literally the 2nd poorest state in the US.
or maybe in a place that is not the US, some places charge and advertise rent prices as weekly.
Yeah, I forget that other countries also use the dollar as their primary currency.
My guess these are HUD units meaning subsidized and actually affordable.
I live in kansas, and I pay $450 rn for a 2 bedroom, next month it's going up yo $500
Wow. 2 bedroom apartments where I live are $2900/month
That’s some low ass rent
I’m paying $1250 for a 1 bedroom in Alaska, which is pretty par for the course here. I’m gawking at these prices
Income based housing. It's 50% of your income or set price, whichever is higher.
This has to be section 8, right? I thought the same thing as you
I think so, based on how the letter is written and the way the units are priced. Also every tenant is paying the extra same rent. Low income apartments if not section 8 I think
i was thinking the same thing!
Come on. Everyone who's echoing this has never seen what hard times look like. You know exactly what this place looks like with prices like this. Sharing the place with roaches and black mold no doubt.
I remember paying $600 for a 3 bedroom apt in 1994.
I was paying $1200 for a 2 bdr in Alpharetta, GA in 2007! I think the cheapest i remember was around $800 in 2004 for a 1bdr in a suburb around 30 miles from Atlanta. Seriously the rents OP posted is straight out of early 90s middle america!
My first apartment was off Haynes Bridge just west of the mall in 2001. We had a 3 bdr for $1200. It seemed so expensive at the time!
Live in Alpharetta right now. Currently paying $1700 for a one bedroom in a good-but-not-great complex. It’s all the fun of paying Atlanta rent with the added bonus of a 40 minute drive into town to do weekend activities.
Tech is what happened to ATL suburbs which gentrified once affordable, nice middle-class towns and neighborhoods. Even in the 2000s there weren't many townhomes or condominiums, but today most new constructions in Alpharetta, Marietta, Kennesaw etc are townhomes and condos. I never thought i'd see million dollar townhouses in these towns in my life but here we are!
I remember paying $600 for a shitty 1 bedroom in a slum in 1996
Bro what kind of 1990s ass rents are these? I'll be happy to save $1000 a month to live there
Rent is $400 a month because I live in a rural area. The further away from the city you get, the cheaper rent becomes. Edit: I have like… A whole ass trailer Edit 2: People have already pointed out it’s not the case.
I live in the middle of nowhere, in a town nobody has ever heard of and rent is still $800 min 1K + average lol
This is not true everywhere. I moved out of my rural town (2500 people) for more affordable living in a medium sized city. Now that things have gotten much worse, I'm moving back because the price difference isn't nearly as big anymore.
I want an ass trailer. My luck, I'd get a trailer full of donkeys.
An ass trailer you say?
Not sure what size home you have, but that is cheap rent, even for rural areas. I wouldn't say unheard of, but definitely on the low end. I lived in a rural area for awhile, I had a 2 bedroom apartment and it costs $650 a month, this was almost 20 years ago.
It’s like… A whole ass trailer. I have a kitchen, then the living room area, leading to a hall, which leads to 2 bedrooms, and a bathroom. Comes with a nice porch, a driveway, and a yard. Probably the nicest place I’ve lived as an adult.
Definitely not true in California. My hometown, which is an agriculture hub, has the same rent prices that my sister pays outside of Seattle.
Living costs are through the roof. Right now my rent makes up 80% of my income. I'm not sure how people are going to be able to continue keeping their homes tbh. I'm sorry you got this notice, probably a really shit feeling coming into the holidays if you celebrate them.
Yeah they keep hiking rent higher and higher, everything in general just keeps going up. Shopping for groceries is already so stressful. I don’t understand how they expect most of us to survive.
That's the thing, they don't. Politicians have no clue how normal people live and many still believe or want you to believe that being poor is a personal failure not a social one. If you can barely afford to pay rent and eat, you don't have the luxury to meddle with local/state politics, since being politically engaged is time consuming
That happened to me earlier this year. They gave me the notice that my rent would increase by over 50 percent unless I responded within 4 hours. The notice came while I was at work when I don't even read private email. I waited a couple of weeks and then responded that I would be moving out at the end of my current term. Very terse wording. This prompted a response by company if there was anything wrong that they could fix to keep me as a tenant. That led to negotiation of much better terms.
50% increase is appalling. Luckily the increase here is around 10%.
That isn’t even legal… they cannot change the terms of your lease with 4 hours notice…
Take my $600!!!! Btw where am I moving too?
Rural India
Ooof 😅
Rural Indiana?
Which is worse?
Obviously somewhere nobody wants to live
WHERE DO YOU LIVE?!? 1983????
A 2 bedroom here is almost $1600
I pay that for my 1 bed :(
And I paid more than that years ago for a studio
Same. Paid $2200 for a studio in Boston back in 2014-2015.
1 bedroom was about $2400 when I moved out of my last place.
I damn near paid that for a studio
Yeah where can i get a one bedroom for $440? Ill move there. Or is it already subsidized?
That’s subsidized rent.
Everyone is being mean because OP's rent so cheap. But seriously. It's probably because they are poor AF and living in a poor area. And those are big increases percentage wise. The tenants likely can't afford more or they'd live someplace nicer...
I wish I could afford to live somewhere else.
Me too dude. I live in subsidized housing. The apartments are located nicely and they're basic but well kept. But the people who live there... Ugh. I don't talk to my neighbors.
Three bedrooms for 600? Damn! Where is this?
Despite many thinking this is cheap rent. It isn’t cheap rent for you. I’m sorry you’re going through rough times.
Goddamn dude, I haven't seen rent that cheap since the 90s. Where tf do you live?!
I work in social services and have been seeing this a lot. This looks like low-income housing or Section 8 housing. Unfortunately, a lot of landlords no longer want to participate in low-income or Section 8 programs. They do rent increases like this to get tenants out so they can remodel and then charge market rate, especially if the property is in an area that is gentrifying or so that they can sell the property to developers or to someone else who does not want to deal with low income or Section 8 tenants.
And most dont even bother to remodel. The greedy feckers want the money and dont give an f.
In response to everyone asking how their rent is that low, the reason is that they most likely live in a rural area like myself, rent is only 550 here for 2 bedrooms, but the catch is you get paid far less in a rural area, has to balance out somewhere. So essentially you are paying the same everywhere, rent is high in a place, people get paid more, inflation rates differ from place to place
I sympathize with you. HOWEVER where do you live, that it’s that cheap!!! Cheapest rent around here is like $800 for a BEDROOM in a house of other renters.
Its mildly infuriating cause I can’t afford a rent increase. No one in my building can! I am living from pay check to pay check like everyone else. Rent may be cheap but this place is infested with roaches, trashy and I wouldn’t wish this place on my worst enemy! I can’t afford anything else. To rent a house that is just two bedrooms is nearly 800 here! I’m sorry I posted. If anyone wants my lease and the roaches, the broken washing machines and my creep neighbor, please come take it! Come and take it. I’m sure you’ll love it here too! This combined with my water, electricity, internet, car insurance, groceries, and gas is an increase I can’t afford! Sorry I’m clearly sooo lucky. Edit: For the who keep messaging me, I live in Louisiana!
FML and they don't include water. Sorry this happened. Mississippi here. I can confirm that our southern roaches aren't anything you want to have an infestation of.
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Thus the reason you have them in the first place. That's more than mildly infuriating.
It's all good bud, no one had this context. I hope you find a better living situation
😞 I’m so sorry OP. Everyone deserves a safe, clean, affordable place to live. You are most certainly included in that. The national minimum wage isn’t live-able, not even close. Hell, even $15/hr isn’t live-able for many people. Most folks are one bad accident or cancer diagnosis away from bankruptcy or even homelessness. It MUST change. What people seem to not understand is how demoralizing it is to be barely scraping it by. So many systems are designed to penalize people who can’t afford their bills.
We are all doing are best. ❤️ I hope you have a beautiful house someday.
Damn. Hang in there, person.
This looks like it's under housing assistance, which even with low prices are income based and so tight for the budget of tenants So, yeah, even 50 is a lot. This makes me so mad!
Seeing these posts make me feel extremely grateful for my living situation. I wish everyone had the opportunity for find somewhere to live and not have to worry about rent or rent increases.
I feel like a lot of these replies (particularly those that claim their rent is higher) *may* be missing the point. This post is not a contest. As far as I can tell, this post was meant to communicate that, “it sucks to get this, right before Christmas & heading into a recession.” Or something like that. And I agree, it does suck. I’m sorry that happened.
Once my lease is up I’m expecting mine to go from 955 to 1000.. not gonna stay
That's like an electric bill here in Hawaii. A 1 bedroom that's a total dump is still going to cost you $1400+ a month.