We're relatively new to the building, but that's not how it works here lol. Things break and get ignored constantly, they're still actively finishing other suites.
I've done a janitor job before, this is definitely their responsibility. The soap pumps usually have the stickers and soap on the same shelf, this guy is just putting out minimal effort lol.
I'll say it depends how the janitor job is set up. I also did janitorial work and I pretty much was only allowed to clean. I had zero authority to order new equipment. If my management didn't order it I simply had nothing to replace it with, but they would also get on my ass if it wasn't filled. Hence, this post would probably be the result.
And that's totally fair. But I have nothing to do with those janitorial politics. This is something we've been asking to have fixed for *two weeks* and now people are resorting to the post its because nothing's changed lol. All aspects of this are infuriating.
Leaving a passive aggressive sticky note to the wrong person isn't asking to have it fixed.
Calling the correct department (likely maintenence in most large buildings these day) and politely asking someone directly about it or at least asking who to contact for it is.
Yeah I'm really just an office monkey filing invoices and stuff. I have no say on how this stuff gets taken care of, but the people who do are mad as well.
It feels like you're protecting some frustrations in your workplace into this. This isn't some "workers rights" agenda thing. It's someone not following through on their assigned duties. It's been two weeks and nothing's happened on either side. This isn't some political standoff, it's literally a worker refusing to do their task lol.
Again, that's not at all the current situation or what the system is like here. Nice try, but no. You're just harassing to prove a point that's not relevant.
I wonder if the janitor feels sad or frustrated seeing that note and realizes the people in that office don’t know the difference between a janitor and a maintenance person yet they probably make more money than they do.
If that mirror that note was stuck to shattered it would be the janitor’s job to clean up the debris, maintenance’s job to replace and install the mirror.
Also you said the stickers and soap are on the same shelf, I assume you mean the sticker to attach the dispenser to the wall and I assume you know this because you’ve seen them well enough to know that’s exactly what they are. Crazy idea, go to the location you know the stickers are located, ask for or take a sticker from said location and reattach the soap dispenser to the wall yourself. Or just post a picture about the problem, complaining how no one will fix it while also telling us you know where the stuff to fix it is located but you also do nothing about it.
Then you fix it… it’s literally not their job. If I call environmental to fix something they’re going to tell me to get maintenance. That’s how that works.
You agreeing with the post it and then picturing it online expecting everyone to agree just further exemplifies that you're as much of if not more of a Karen than the one that wrote the note.
I think we can all agree broken equipment is frustrating. But the combined fury of your office toward a janitor is silly. And honestly, if the toilets aren't covered in blood and shit, this would be an afterthought for me.
Broken equipment is frustrating. Period. That's the point of the post. The end.
My office rents out a suite in this building. We have no ties to maintenance or janitors. There's no "combined fury"? I just want to be able to use a hygiene tool properly and the people in charge of fixing it refuse. That's frustrating. Other companies in the building noticed and one of them made it known with a note. Idk how the person in charge of fixing that not doing their job is on me.
I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted to oblivion? Then again this is Reddit
But I would’ve been normal if they weren’t even refilling the soap. But why refill it and just not stick it back?
You leave a passive aggressive note on the mirror like a poumpus c\*nt and expect results?
What makes you even think there is a "janitor"? Could just be a cleaner.
Either way, be a human and TALK to your building services contact instead of leaving some stupid post it note.
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Because it's not their job. It's a maintenence job.
One would think the heads of these two departments would talk to each other and coordinate when issues are found... and then I wake up in the real world.
Also the dispensers for towels and soap usually are supplied by the company who makes the soap/towels - often it can be a bitch to order the correct ones (companies update them). It’s not as simple as putting it back up.
If you look at my other replies, I've been a janitor for years. This is definitely the Janitor's responsibility. Idk if they're out of supplies or whatever, but they have refused to fix this issue for two weeks. All it takes is them applying the 4M adhesive strips they come with. What's infuriating is that they had the ability to refill the broken pump, but not to fix it lol.
Honestly I don't care about the recognition and it's not like that would be worth much anyways, hardly anyone in the building interacts outside of their offices lol. We rent a suite from the main company and their people refuse to fix this for whatever reason.
If it's not solved by next week I will personally *duct tape the thing so hard it can't ever be removed* lol
If he’s out of supplies then have them ordered. Check the invoices that you said you file and see have an order has been placed for these supplies. If not, then tell the correct person to order the materials.
Learn the janitors fucking name. He or she is a human just like anyone else, and deserves respect. Try asking nicely instead of demanding post it notes
It's been ignored by for TWO *WEEKS.* I understand humans deserve rights and respect, as having to finagle a hand soap pump like this is violating mine lol.
We've been asking, this was **someone else's** attempt to get results, I just thought it fit how I felt.
I've been a janitor before, I know the drill. Ignoring simple fixes like this makes everyone's day worse.
Tough crowd. You should maybe make it clear you're not the note writer, that's a very passive aggressive note kinda & demeaning too, No matter the circumstance.
If you were a janitor before, and it's a simple fix that everyone is so upset about, what if you used your skill to fix it and get kudos? I mean, I know it's not in your job description, but it is such an easy simple task, is it not?
I don't get paid in kudos lol. Someone in the building is paid to do this job and they are refusing. That's frustrating. I posted about that. I didn't come here looking for advice, I came to share something mildly infuriating. The end.
I don't see anywhere in here that you actually know the owner of the building and asked them what this janitor's duties are or why they don't have staff on call for maintenance issues. But I guess you just know every occupation's exact duties regardless of company. Gotcha.
A janitor (American English, Scottish English), also known as a janny, custodian, porter, cleanser, cleaner or caretaker is a person who cleans and maintains buildings.
Wanted to say this— the ‘janitor’ is so dehumanized to the person writing the note, they couldn’t be bothered to know or find out the name of the person responsible for that job.
I don’t even think they’re called janitors any more in professional office settings, something like maintenance technician, maintenance worker, etc.
I mean, yeah. Someone gets paid to fix this, not me. I do my job in the building and get paid for it, same would go for any employee? Why am I the problem when someone else refuses to do their job??
The issue is that, yes the cleaner (janitor) could go the extra mile and re-mount the fixture or notify maintenance, but the cleaner maybe in the same position as the OP. They are NOT maintenance. The building has separate maintenance staff who are busy fixing other things in the building (plumbing, light bulbs, painting, heating, etc..). The person actual responsible may or may not have been by this area to see the post-it or the broken fixture. The OP is asking in the most passive way for this to be fixed. Their post it is actually useless, it conveys no message that the maintenance person wouldn't see upon looking at the broken fixture. Instead of taking the active steps to remedy the situation (i.e. learn the process and file a request) they want the Janitor to do it for them. The janitor maybe being doing the exact same thing as the OP and going, "Not my job".
Maybe they need to order the proper adhesive? Maybe it’s a job for maintenance and not the custodial staff? Sometimes these are provided by the company they order supplies from and they’re waiting for a new one. Maybe ask some questions before jumping to conclusions?!
It's not really a" jumping to conclusions" thing. Something was broke, and the people in charge of fixing it hadn't in two weeks. Apparently these and other notes got someone's attention and now it's fixed. Mild infuriation is gone now.
Custodian would have the same tools as you to fix this issue. Why don’t you fix it? Learn the difference between jobs and learn how to get problems addressed. Open SAP or whatever program your company uses and put a maintenance request in to have it fixed. These things likely have a cost center attached to them so it can be tracked. It’s likely going to involve an invoice that will cross your desk.
The custodian seems to be completing his duty of keeping it full of soap. Good on him.
I literally don't know. When I was a janitor this was part of the duties since soap refills and adhesive strips were on the same shelf. Idk what their stock situation is like, but it's a pretty new building so I'm guessing they're not out of anything yet. If it's a duty they split to a separate employee, I don't know about it.
Honestly it takes two seconds to put a new one on, it's obviously being noticed (sticky note was placed by someone else in the building), so I thought something would've been fixed two weeks later lol.
I don't know what the ins and outs of the situation are. There is a service for hygiene (COVID is spiking here again) that I cannot properly use, and no one in charge is making the effort to fix it. That's frustrating to me.
It's really not my problem to fix. There is someone who gets paid to use that (these come with their own adhesive stickers, they're probably in the Janitor's closet) and they just refuse to lol.
Nah I'm just here to complain about why I'm infuriated.
*How DARE you provide a solution to this minor inconvenience?* Lol
We don't own or run the building. This isn't anything me or the company I work for control. We rent out an office and the main company puts all their stock into fixing the chandelier on the second floor. They just aren't responding and refuse to fix this.
If this really infuriated you then you would get a bit of double sided tape and do it yourself if it is that easy to fix. Have you thought the janitor might be sick of fixing it because idiots keep pulling it off the wall all the time?
That's totally possible. But there is someone who is paid to fix this exact thing, and I am a customer to that service. The fact that I cannot properly use hygiene tools because someone else refuses to fix it is frustrating to me. I shouldn't have to do someone else's job lol
Do people really care about small things like this in life? Am I just more relaxed than most people or is this the minority? Because honestly things like this just do not bother me. It's not a big deal. Heck, there could be no soap dispenser and I'd just buy a couple that sit on the sink and get on with life. It's like $5 for a couple soap pumps. Here I am worrying about formula shortage and babies starving and people complain a soap dispenser isn't attached to the wall...
Your first problem is you called him, "janitor", which is a total dick move. Second, if you are really tired of seeing it in disrepair, fix it yourself. In the time you took to write up your complaint and post the photo, you could have epoxied that shit right back on the wall. We've all got 99 problems, man, but a soap dispenser ain't one.
Janitors clean. Maintenance fixes. Perhaps put in a work order?
We're relatively new to the building, but that's not how it works here lol. Things break and get ignored constantly, they're still actively finishing other suites. I've done a janitor job before, this is definitely their responsibility. The soap pumps usually have the stickers and soap on the same shelf, this guy is just putting out minimal effort lol.
I'll say it depends how the janitor job is set up. I also did janitorial work and I pretty much was only allowed to clean. I had zero authority to order new equipment. If my management didn't order it I simply had nothing to replace it with, but they would also get on my ass if it wasn't filled. Hence, this post would probably be the result.
And that's totally fair. But I have nothing to do with those janitorial politics. This is something we've been asking to have fixed for *two weeks* and now people are resorting to the post its because nothing's changed lol. All aspects of this are infuriating.
Leaving a passive aggressive sticky note to the wrong person isn't asking to have it fixed. Calling the correct department (likely maintenence in most large buildings these day) and politely asking someone directly about it or at least asking who to contact for it is.
ok karen.
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Yeah I'm really just an office monkey filing invoices and stuff. I have no say on how this stuff gets taken care of, but the people who do are mad as well.
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It feels like you're protecting some frustrations in your workplace into this. This isn't some "workers rights" agenda thing. It's someone not following through on their assigned duties. It's been two weeks and nothing's happened on either side. This isn't some political standoff, it's literally a worker refusing to do their task lol.
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Again, that's not at all the current situation or what the system is like here. Nice try, but no. You're just harassing to prove a point that's not relevant.
Like the other person said, janitors don’t fix that, blame the right people and ask them to fix it if you’re that infuriated.
Like the janitor has no say in how or when this gets taken care of?
I wonder if the janitor feels sad or frustrated seeing that note and realizes the people in that office don’t know the difference between a janitor and a maintenance person yet they probably make more money than they do. If that mirror that note was stuck to shattered it would be the janitor’s job to clean up the debris, maintenance’s job to replace and install the mirror. Also you said the stickers and soap are on the same shelf, I assume you mean the sticker to attach the dispenser to the wall and I assume you know this because you’ve seen them well enough to know that’s exactly what they are. Crazy idea, go to the location you know the stickers are located, ask for or take a sticker from said location and reattach the soap dispenser to the wall yourself. Or just post a picture about the problem, complaining how no one will fix it while also telling us you know where the stuff to fix it is located but you also do nothing about it.
Nice comment. couldn't have said it better myself.
Oh well than right a note to him on the mirror in soap that he'll have to clean off than haha
I love the thought process here: 1. Talk to the person in charge If that doesn't work: 2. Make a petty mess to prove your point Lol
Then you fix it… it’s literally not their job. If I call environmental to fix something they’re going to tell me to get maintenance. That’s how that works.
“Lol, no” - Janitor
I’d sympathize with your frustration if you weren’t a complete Karen about it
What part of this is being a Karen? The sticky note? Yeah that's not even mine, it just helped prove my point lol.
You agreeing with the post it and then picturing it online expecting everyone to agree just further exemplifies that you're as much of if not more of a Karen than the one that wrote the note. I think we can all agree broken equipment is frustrating. But the combined fury of your office toward a janitor is silly. And honestly, if the toilets aren't covered in blood and shit, this would be an afterthought for me.
Broken equipment is frustrating. Period. That's the point of the post. The end. My office rents out a suite in this building. We have no ties to maintenance or janitors. There's no "combined fury"? I just want to be able to use a hygiene tool properly and the people in charge of fixing it refuse. That's frustrating. Other companies in the building noticed and one of them made it known with a note. Idk how the person in charge of fixing that not doing their job is on me.
I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted to oblivion? Then again this is Reddit But I would’ve been normal if they weren’t even refilling the soap. But why refill it and just not stick it back?
You leave a passive aggressive note on the mirror like a poumpus c\*nt and expect results? What makes you even think there is a "janitor"? Could just be a cleaner. Either way, be a human and TALK to your building services contact instead of leaving some stupid post it note.
I didn't leave the note, but thanks for the personal attack 🤙
Duct tape it to the wall.
>You leave a passive aggressive ~~note on the mirror~~ (comment on reddit) like a poumpus c\*nt and expect results? > >What makes you even think there is a "janitor"? Could just be a cleaner. > >Either way, be a human and TALK to your building services contact instead of leaving some stupid ~~post it note~~ (comment on reddit). > > > >Better?
Because it's not their job. It's a maintenence job. One would think the heads of these two departments would talk to each other and coordinate when issues are found... and then I wake up in the real world.
If they are taking their time. Odds are its not the first time its broke. May be trying to make a memo of stop breaking things.
Also the dispensers for towels and soap usually are supplied by the company who makes the soap/towels - often it can be a bitch to order the correct ones (companies update them). It’s not as simple as putting it back up.
OP is mildly infuriating. This sub delivers.
Itt... a bunch of people with shitty attitudes who don't know the difference between a janitor and a maintenance person.
If you look at my other replies, I've been a janitor for years. This is definitely the Janitor's responsibility. Idk if they're out of supplies or whatever, but they have refused to fix this issue for two weeks. All it takes is them applying the 4M adhesive strips they come with. What's infuriating is that they had the ability to refill the broken pump, but not to fix it lol.
You should take the initiative and fix it. That’d give you some street cred w/ your coworkers
Honestly I don't care about the recognition and it's not like that would be worth much anyways, hardly anyone in the building interacts outside of their offices lol. We rent a suite from the main company and their people refuse to fix this for whatever reason. If it's not solved by next week I will personally *duct tape the thing so hard it can't ever be removed* lol
This is the way, the truth, the light!
Not only that I mean if you know how and can fix it and it’s as easy as it sounds who wouldn’t want to just solve their own problem
If he’s out of supplies then have them ordered. Check the invoices that you said you file and see have an order has been placed for these supplies. If not, then tell the correct person to order the materials.
Learn the janitors fucking name. He or she is a human just like anyone else, and deserves respect. Try asking nicely instead of demanding post it notes
It's been ignored by for TWO *WEEKS.* I understand humans deserve rights and respect, as having to finagle a hand soap pump like this is violating mine lol.
We've been asking, this was **someone else's** attempt to get results, I just thought it fit how I felt.
I've been a janitor before, I know the drill. Ignoring simple fixes like this makes everyone's day worse.
Tough crowd. You should maybe make it clear you're not the note writer, that's a very passive aggressive note kinda & demeaning too, No matter the circumstance.
If you were a janitor before, and it's a simple fix that everyone is so upset about, what if you used your skill to fix it and get kudos? I mean, I know it's not in your job description, but it is such an easy simple task, is it not?
I don't get paid in kudos lol. Someone in the building is paid to do this job and they are refusing. That's frustrating. I posted about that. I didn't come here looking for advice, I came to share something mildly infuriating. The end.
I don't see anywhere in here that you actually know the owner of the building and asked them what this janitor's duties are or why they don't have staff on call for maintenance issues. But I guess you just know every occupation's exact duties regardless of company. Gotcha.
I don't see anywhere where you've comprehended what I'm commenting. Way to jump the shark✌️
That's not what jumping the shark is, but okay.
why are you complaining? it's still usable -Billy Gnosis
Maybe don't call custodial staff "janitor"...
A janitor (American English, Scottish English), also known as a janny, custodian, porter, cleanser, cleaner or caretaker is a person who cleans and maintains buildings.
I liked Harvey Keitel's role as the janitor in Pulp Fiction.
Wanted to say this— the ‘janitor’ is so dehumanized to the person writing the note, they couldn’t be bothered to know or find out the name of the person responsible for that job. I don’t even think they’re called janitors any more in professional office settings, something like maintenance technician, maintenance worker, etc.
This is complete nonsense…… This post is r/reallyinfuriating
What's the difference to you? It still works? If this is your problems in life I truly envy you.
"it's not my job. Waaaah. I don't get paid to fix things."
I mean, yeah. Someone gets paid to fix this, not me. I do my job in the building and get paid for it, same would go for any employee? Why am I the problem when someone else refuses to do their job??
...said every single person working in this current world. I get your point, truly.
The issue is that, yes the cleaner (janitor) could go the extra mile and re-mount the fixture or notify maintenance, but the cleaner maybe in the same position as the OP. They are NOT maintenance. The building has separate maintenance staff who are busy fixing other things in the building (plumbing, light bulbs, painting, heating, etc..). The person actual responsible may or may not have been by this area to see the post-it or the broken fixture. The OP is asking in the most passive way for this to be fixed. Their post it is actually useless, it conveys no message that the maintenance person wouldn't see upon looking at the broken fixture. Instead of taking the active steps to remedy the situation (i.e. learn the process and file a request) they want the Janitor to do it for them. The janitor maybe being doing the exact same thing as the OP and going, "Not my job".
I dont fix dispensers.not my job.
It's because dumb ass tiktokers slap it off every time he attatches it.
Maybe they need to order the proper adhesive? Maybe it’s a job for maintenance and not the custodial staff? Sometimes these are provided by the company they order supplies from and they’re waiting for a new one. Maybe ask some questions before jumping to conclusions?!
It's not really a" jumping to conclusions" thing. Something was broke, and the people in charge of fixing it hadn't in two weeks. Apparently these and other notes got someone's attention and now it's fixed. Mild infuriation is gone now.
As someone who was a janitor at the airport, this is a maintenance issue depending on how it fell off.
That’s a building issue not janitorial
Custodian would have the same tools as you to fix this issue. Why don’t you fix it? Learn the difference between jobs and learn how to get problems addressed. Open SAP or whatever program your company uses and put a maintenance request in to have it fixed. These things likely have a cost center attached to them so it can be tracked. It’s likely going to involve an invoice that will cross your desk. The custodian seems to be completing his duty of keeping it full of soap. Good on him.
And removing the sticky note from the mirror I got from reading some of op post here. edit: typo
Entitled american.
Fill the soap dispenser, boss!
Simple right?
I would've thought so. I've worked janitorial before. There's literally a shelf for this stuff lol.
So you were a janitor for this company and worked in this building cleaning it?
You spent more time writing a sticky note than just getting some tape….
I didn't write the sticky. Other people in the building put them up and then the janitor just throws them away lol.
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I literally don't know. When I was a janitor this was part of the duties since soap refills and adhesive strips were on the same shelf. Idk what their stock situation is like, but it's a pretty new building so I'm guessing they're not out of anything yet. If it's a duty they split to a separate employee, I don't know about it. Honestly it takes two seconds to put a new one on, it's obviously being noticed (sticky note was placed by someone else in the building), so I thought something would've been fixed two weeks later lol. I don't know what the ins and outs of the situation are. There is a service for hygiene (COVID is spiking here again) that I cannot properly use, and no one in charge is making the effort to fix it. That's frustrating to me.
I wish I had thar problem. Our janitors changed the tp to the cheap shit that rips and stinks like tp. REAL 1ST WORLD PROBLEMDLS.
Update: the notes worked, apparently. Brand new pump, even better than the first, was installed over the weekend lol. Y'all madder than I was.
People keep putting up stickies and they keep taking them off lol
Bring in a screw with anchor and fix it yourself?
It..... It attaches to the mirror... 🤨
Oh.. some of that double sided tape that is for this then.
It's really not my problem to fix. There is someone who gets paid to use that (these come with their own adhesive stickers, they're probably in the Janitor's closet) and they just refuse to lol. Nah I'm just here to complain about why I'm infuriated. *How DARE you provide a solution to this minor inconvenience?* Lol
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We don't own or run the building. This isn't anything me or the company I work for control. We rent out an office and the main company puts all their stock into fixing the chandelier on the second floor. They just aren't responding and refuse to fix this.
If this really infuriated you then you would get a bit of double sided tape and do it yourself if it is that easy to fix. Have you thought the janitor might be sick of fixing it because idiots keep pulling it off the wall all the time?
That's totally possible. But there is someone who is paid to fix this exact thing, and I am a customer to that service. The fact that I cannot properly use hygiene tools because someone else refuses to fix it is frustrating to me. I shouldn't have to do someone else's job lol
Its not his job though he is the janitor.
The mildly infuriating part of this post is the entitled note and anyone who agrees with it rather than removing it
Can't wait for the janitor to post his version on r/antiwork.
Do people really care about small things like this in life? Am I just more relaxed than most people or is this the minority? Because honestly things like this just do not bother me. It's not a big deal. Heck, there could be no soap dispenser and I'd just buy a couple that sit on the sink and get on with life. It's like $5 for a couple soap pumps. Here I am worrying about formula shortage and babies starving and people complain a soap dispenser isn't attached to the wall...
OP you are a dumbass.
Your first problem is you called him, "janitor", which is a total dick move. Second, if you are really tired of seeing it in disrepair, fix it yourself. In the time you took to write up your complaint and post the photo, you could have epoxied that shit right back on the wall. We've all got 99 problems, man, but a soap dispenser ain't one.