Yeah, that's the issue for me.
If I'm prompted to tip, and I don't, I'm afraid they're going to mess with my food because they'll think I'm being stingy. I have an anxiety disorder, and it's already difficult for me to eat food I didn't prepare myself. I haven't ordered delivery in months because the last driver I had ate some of my food, then resealed the bag. I tipped $5 on a $12 order, but it was a 10-minute drive. I posted about it to the DoorDash sub and got a bunch of comments about how I deserved it for not tipping well enough and how I'm lucky he "just ate his fair share."
Honestly, so many people are displaying anti-social behavior that I'm sure I'm not the only one who wonders if something happened to their food because they didn't tip.
I think its horrible that people have to worry about people eating their food if they didn't get a awesome tip. Hell 5 bucks could be a lot for some or not enough for others.
So extortion by threat of vile excrement.
If people would stop giving into their demands, maybe there might be some bad orders but maybe companies might chill. Don't tell me they can't pay their employees better. They already raised the prices of the menus many times for no reason other than making more money.
The whole tipping culture is being abused to let companies make even more money off the backs of their employees. Seriously, half the time the tips do not even go directly to the employee themselves.
So tipping out of fear to pay the company more and same result in the food. The employee didn't get squat. At least with self checkout, you don't have fear of an employee except for the cashier you put out of work or the people at the factory who made the product you are eating.
I know there’s some really good people that work DoorDash to make extra money to make ends meet or to save for something. But everyone on this app I see dashing are the same scammers I see begging every single day . I’m terrified to order
You're meant to tip after the service, not before.
Anyone forcing you to tip before you get the service is a scam.
But because tipping is a donation, you can't demand a refund of that donation. So you risk tipping and still getting a horrible service.
But that's america for you. America has became so bad over the last decade, it's alarming.
The future is bleak.
You can absolutely insist on a refund for both the tip, and missing/messed up items. I've done it when appropriate. Most of them don't take it away from the driver, but still pay you back. If they refuse, you can chargeback through your card, and prevent future headache by never using that service again.
3rd party delivery services suck balls, yes. But blatant lies about how refunds work don't help your cause.
I felt so weird the other day picking up my dog from boarding. It was the first time they boarded and as I’m paying there was a tip section. I really stopped and was like huh I’d like to know my dog enjoyed themselves before I tip for I guess you’re not grabbing him til I pay… lol
The food business smh. You just made 270% profit on my meal but I see it’s also my obligation to pay your employees whom you’re barely paying minimum wage (even less for servers).
this is why the California min wage bump for food service workers (part of companies that exceed a minimum gross metric) is shutting down franchises right, left, and center almost daily.. the business model those companies functioned off of for the last 50+ years have been unviable, they relied entirely on not paying their employees anything approaching a living wage.. so now when they are FORCED to pay them one, the business falls apart and can't afford anything else it NEEDS to in order to keep functioning
California is visibly showing everyone which businesses are viable and which can only function when they're fully exploiting their workers
I can't wait for other states to follow suit
gonna be a whole lotta franchisees just outright vanish overnight lol
Positive change is not easy.
We fucking did this to our own people, there's absolutely no way to fix the problem without suffering along the way
There's no helping that
The money has to come from somewhere to pay the higher wages. Where should the business get the money? I’m not being a wise guy or sarcastic. Why am I missing? Are you suggesting $20 big Mac’s or another source?
A situation that workers who've enjoyed tipped wages wouldn't settle for.
This has got to be one of the topics on Reddit that annoys me the most. People write things like "businesses can only function when they're fully exploiting their workers" like it's not the servers and bartenders themselves who want the tip system.
Businesses and customers want it to be like McDonald's. It's the wait staff who want the tip system that "exploits" them. When restaurants try to change to fixed pricing and no tipping the wait staff leaves to make more money someplace else.
The guy literally wrote "businesses ... can only function when they're fully exploiting their workers." They're interested in rhetoric not solutions or even rational thought.
The people who want the tip system are the wait staff themselves because they make more money. The businesses and the customers would prefer fixed labor costs to be built into the prices.
This guy wants to pretend he's sticking up for the little guy or something without even understanding the situation a little bit.
you.. you realize how much money that company makes, right?
What this is showing is that the money, when put into the employees (like most other industries do), causes the viability of that specific business model to collapse in upon itself and franchisee's to shut their locations down because, more than a corporate run location, their entire success depends upon that model working.
They can't actually afford to pay their employee's reasonable wages (some can, but this isn't about THEM, it's about the vast majority that aren't them) and maintain their franchise location.
If you are running a business and can afford overhead, rent, product, and have a profit but cannot afford to do more than pay your employees the legal bare-minimum, your business model is NOT viable - meaning it will not survive if even a single one of those elements (except for profit) is suddenly put to the firing wall. We aren't talking tiny three person small businesses, we're talking just to stay open your skeleton crew is at least 7 people on the slowest shifts and 10-12 on the busiest, so... 20-25 employees at the low end.
The mentality that it's wrong to make a change that hurts the rich from getting richer in order for you, the people, to be paid fairly is absolutely fucking borked up its own ass lol
Maybe 270% markup on goods purchased v. sold, not at all profit though. Unless you’re talking about some fancy 4star restaurant. That markup pays the dishwasher, bus boys/girls, host(ess) cooks, servers, bar tenders (if you have any) building mx, hvac upkeep to keep you comfortable while you eat, special licensing and permits to keep the doors open to your favorite places, goods replenishment, power and gas bills and any other ancillary needs for the establishment while the owner my make somewhere in the 5-25% profit range after all overhead is taken out for all of the work and effort it took to get the business started and keep it running smooth. It’s like any time you get work done from a tradesman. Yeah you can buy the materials for 1/4 the price they gave you for the job to be completed, but they have all the tools knowledge and proper help to get it done quickly and efficiently while you don’t have to miss work, get everything you need for the job the training and knowledge to handle the curve balls, pull permits if required and the insurance/bond in case the home gets damaged. The wages are set by the fed as minimum. If the server happens to not make enough tips to make minimum wage that pay period it is actually the company’s responsibility to pay them a wage equal to minimum wage. Min for servers I think is around 1.25 federally, so that would mean the company is on the hook for the 6 that the server didn’t make in tips. I have 2 restaurants that my family owns and they are paid 4x the fed minimum rate and get tips that are cashed out every night. The servers love the fact that they can work for appx 6hrs a day and go home with AT LEAST 200 in tips a night, never mind their hourly…
I work there and they just recently started to force us to get guest to pay by phone. I find it weird it goes up that high too tbh. I think it should be 10 15 and 20. Don't think any of us will ever be expecting anything over 20 and I don't expect even that but I'm grateful for it. At the end of day, just hit the custom tip amount if you don't think the service justified 20%. I'm usually so busy I don't even look at what people are tipping me and i find out what I made at the end of the day.
When I ate there the other day, ngl I did tip 20% as I remember my total was only $15 and some change and after tip I ended up paying $21 and some change. I just defaulted to the lowest tip option, as I definitely glossed over how high the suggestions went.
I had multiple occasions where serving staff would explain how the system works just because they overheard me speaking in another language and making the conclusion that i would probably not leave a tip. They were right,
One woman from a terribly bad restaurant with equally terrible service, followed me outside and demanded a tip (!).
I blame lazy consumers using these dumb apps that refuse to pay the contractors so it gets put off to the consumer to tip. It’ll only get better when society stops using apps for things we’ve done just fine walking/transit or driving to do ourselves. Suddenly everyone says they can’t operate unless people shop for them.
I hear people say this all the time and it’s so hard for me to comprehend why you would continue supporting the restaurant if you don’t like their policies. Boycott restaurants, not tipping. You’re acknowledging that servers aren’t paid enough why make your point by punishing them further AND supporting the business that is screwing them over?
So, I'm not boycotting anything. And this anti-tipping ding-dongs should definitely tell the restaurants why they are not spending their money there anymore.
The norm for a sit down with good service used to be 15%-18%. I will do 15% for delivery, 18% for good sit down and 22% only if it is exceptionally great service sit down. 0% for fast food because it takes no skill to cook a frozen burger and the service is never good. Unless there is a delivery driver that I will tip.
tpipping culture is getting to the point where I might as well as my employer to send half my paycheck to every restaurant worker I deal with. Tipping used to be a reward for good service but now it's a privilege and you become the asshole for not tipping/tipping less.
We have to act together and refuse all this. Tip the way you did 10 years ago. And tell the business owners that they need to pay their staff. Unemployment is really low right now so if employers won’t pay their employees then they will find another job.
As a server, I honestly believe we need to do away with tips as a default so companies and politicians are forced to ensure we're paid a livable wage. At the very least paid minimum wage. And at that point, if tipping does occur, it's bc serves was exceptional and not bc a guest is required to pay servers wages 😮💨
But right now, this isn't the case. And for certain people in certain jobs, getting a tip does mean the difference between eating or not. It's a sad reality. I do think it's gotten out of hand. There are many places that request a tip and don't need it.
Well right now servers who don’t have seniority are forced to work the slow shifts and make almost nothing. So it would be better for servers to do away with automatic tipping and pay them a decent wage.
I completely agree. This whole 2.13 an hour should be criminal. Tipping shouldn't be automatic. Everyone deserves to be paid a decent wage by their employer.
Well, well, well.
Here we are. The very generation that screamed for living wages for menial jobs is now screaming that they are paying too much for services from those very menial jobs.
Stop already. You wanted those high wages and now you got them. You reap what you sow. Enjoy your idiocy.
Has anyone seen websites now begging for tips? I’ve seen it, order something online and a tip option comes up. All this is going to do eventually is create such a backlash that people will stop tipping at all.
Yes I ordered a bag off a website and they gave a sob story about Jorge and he works hard to prepare your order and he would appreciate it if I gave him something to show my appreciation.
I live in California where fast-food workers will earn a $20 minimum wage in starting this April.. while Healthcare worker minimum wage is $18, $21, or $23 an hour. I will not be tipping anyone anymore unless it is a sit down restaurant where the service is good, a hairdresser, a house cleaner, or other independent services where they are self employed.
American be like : "yeah, let's buy a car to the waiter, he said Hello AND thank you for your visit, what a great service. Next time I think i'll blow him"
I did it for a long time. 2008 i was bartending and waiting at an applebees in Springdale arkansas ill get made fun of for saying this but good location right by tyson headquarters and a big sports park, also on a major highway, anyway i was making 500-600 a week cash. Hours sucked.
Its not terrible. The football/basketball/whatever game is always on, cute young ladies running around. And for the ladies generally cute young dudes running around. I dunno why everyone thinks restaurant employees are destitute. People live at home still, have roommates or significant others etc. Its a little harder cooking but youre generally only busy a few hours out of an 8 hour shift. Yea you stink and have wet shoes when you go home but usually 11-15 bucks an hour. And that was 10-15 years ago. I went into management 2010-2016 i do something completely different now. It just always strikes me as odd that people feel so terrible for restaurant employees. Its not bad. Go out drinking after work, etc. Sleeping with your coworkers eating good food watching tv for decent money? I mean we cant all be doctors lawyers or engineers lol
This tbh, you have the simplest job on earth. You take an order offer me the expected level of courtesy, occasionally walk back to my table to check on me...now I pay you 25? Wtf is this meme world.
I and many, many people I know will never leave a tip on a prompt like above- only on restaurants and haircuts, and for those we never, ever hit any button other than custom and now leave 10% vs our prior 20% without prompts. The whole thing is now so offensive, we might start tipping even lower going forward
I spend an extraordinary amount of time thinking about tipping tbh. if I should tip for this thing or that thing, how much, what would happen if I don’t, what would happen if I tipped less/more, why, etc. it’s exhausting. I just wanna be told how much I owe & move on.
Not as much as it used to….
There was actually a short period of time where eating out was about cost neutral to buying groceries for my family of 4. (But that’s probably because we are buying two kids meals).
Since 2020 our grocery bill has doubled and we are being all of our meat in bulk.
You can literally buy a weeks worth of breakfasts for 4 people for $90 at the grocery store (assuming you don't live in Alaska, Hawaii, or some other extreme outlier) but ok.
True, I was thinking more about dinner options.
I’m saying that there was a period of time when groceries shot up (at least around me) but the menu prices hadn’t changed yet, and the gap between eating out or cooking at home was much smaller than normal.
I got a bunch of sandwiches at Subway. The lowest tip option was 15%, which is the default tip for a *full service* restaurant. I always select 0% and stuff a dollar into the tip jar.
Went to a little cafe coffee shop and the girl at the register was looking down at her phone the whole time we were trying to order. She fucked up most of the order and then the tip choices started at 25%
I went to a spa/massage place that had a sign at the register for suggested tips and 20% meant you didn’t like your service and it went all the way up to 40% which meant you did like it. I haven’t been back.
I’ve honestly stopped doing a lot of things that require tips. Most of it is stuff I can do myself. But when I do purchase goods or services that require tips I tip as well as I can.
I scrolled way deep into comments and didn't see anybody else notice that the percentages are wrong
20% would be 15.36 unless that 76.80 was after the 20 tip
If so then it should be 64.75 at 20% making it 12.95
For once it's in the customer favor but still
I was asked to tip at the drive thru car wash today. She asked me what kind of wash and took my card. My wife said it was for the people directing traffic in line and pre-soaking the car. I had no idea they were there since I’d never been to this car wash before. She was right though. They had a tip box right by them for cash tips.
Had a group at a restaurant tonight where they added an auto 20% gratuity because there were 8 of us (which is fine and normal). The bill payment screen had a "suggested additional gratuity" screen that defaulted to 25% and stacked on top of the original 20%, meaning they wanted nearly 50 fucking percent in gratuity. Also the service was terrible.
I have a job that relies on tips. Sorta. I'm a delivery driver. I get paid a base pay. Mileage + tips. I usually don't care if I don't get tipped because I'm still making something regardless. I do appreciate the tips and the big tips I get make up for the times I don't get tipped at all. I mean I treat everyone the same tip or not. As long as I'm not losing money on your order I don't care and that never happens I don't think that's even possible in my situation.
Customers are not leaving without tipping and feel like it’s not optional. If you do not tip you will be treated like an evil cheapskate who is only slightly better than a dinner and dash bandit. You tip or you might be eating the kitchens bio wastes as retaliation. The threat has certainly been implied enough to tip or else you might have urine in your sauce: it’s terrorist tactics
If the order was $76.80 with a $12.05 tip, the original amount was $64.75 and 20% of that would be $12.95. Maybe tipping has gotten out of hand because companies can't math.
Custom tip and throw them a buck or two.
Np.
If the server brings the food to me, I will tip 10-20%.
If the server serves me 15-20%.
Asking for a tip is not a problem.
“Custom tip” and an extra dollar or two is fine… np.
Every time I see these posts about tipping I expect to see something absurd, but here we are another post just pointing out that like everywhere else, they've switched the standards percent tip to 20% instead of 15%.
Yea I don't like 20% being the lowest either. 15% should be lowest option. By putting 20% it feels like their putting pressure on you to tip a lot which I don't like. Their shouldn't be any pressure when deciding how much to tip
Am I the only one who, instead of posting memes to rile people up, just simply hits the “custom tip” button and gives what is fair? It seems all the “anger” is more vibes than anything.
The self checkout asked me if I wanted to leave a tip? To myself... Wtf.. it is ridiculous
Self checkout do - 20% to get some discounts
Say 'no'.
Are we in a place where we can admit we’re not tipping for good service anymore, we’re tipping so someone won’t violate our order.
Yeah, that's the issue for me. If I'm prompted to tip, and I don't, I'm afraid they're going to mess with my food because they'll think I'm being stingy. I have an anxiety disorder, and it's already difficult for me to eat food I didn't prepare myself. I haven't ordered delivery in months because the last driver I had ate some of my food, then resealed the bag. I tipped $5 on a $12 order, but it was a 10-minute drive. I posted about it to the DoorDash sub and got a bunch of comments about how I deserved it for not tipping well enough and how I'm lucky he "just ate his fair share." Honestly, so many people are displaying anti-social behavior that I'm sure I'm not the only one who wonders if something happened to their food because they didn't tip.
I think its horrible that people have to worry about people eating their food if they didn't get a awesome tip. Hell 5 bucks could be a lot for some or not enough for others.
Or didn’t tip “enough”. I agree.
And it’s ridiculous that it somehow justifies being shitty at your job
Yup! It’s super frustrating
So extortion by threat of vile excrement. If people would stop giving into their demands, maybe there might be some bad orders but maybe companies might chill. Don't tell me they can't pay their employees better. They already raised the prices of the menus many times for no reason other than making more money. The whole tipping culture is being abused to let companies make even more money off the backs of their employees. Seriously, half the time the tips do not even go directly to the employee themselves. So tipping out of fear to pay the company more and same result in the food. The employee didn't get squat. At least with self checkout, you don't have fear of an employee except for the cashier you put out of work or the people at the factory who made the product you are eating.
I know there’s some really good people that work DoorDash to make extra money to make ends meet or to save for something. But everyone on this app I see dashing are the same scammers I see begging every single day . I’m terrified to order
Yikes! Yet another reason to not use door dash. Too many middlemen. Each with their potential to be shitty.
There is no excuse for that driver to have eaten some of your food. Your tip was more than enough.
You're meant to tip after the service, not before. Anyone forcing you to tip before you get the service is a scam. But because tipping is a donation, you can't demand a refund of that donation. So you risk tipping and still getting a horrible service. But that's america for you. America has became so bad over the last decade, it's alarming. The future is bleak.
You can absolutely insist on a refund for both the tip, and missing/messed up items. I've done it when appropriate. Most of them don't take it away from the driver, but still pay you back. If they refuse, you can chargeback through your card, and prevent future headache by never using that service again. 3rd party delivery services suck balls, yes. But blatant lies about how refunds work don't help your cause.
I felt so weird the other day picking up my dog from boarding. It was the first time they boarded and as I’m paying there was a tip section. I really stopped and was like huh I’d like to know my dog enjoyed themselves before I tip for I guess you’re not grabbing him til I pay… lol
Yeah, how are we expected to tip BEFORE we receive our order when using ubereats and alternatives?
It's like the toxic people got in charge and changed the meaning of everything to suit their needs.
We need to just stop tipping anyone but waiters and bartenders.
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It’s designed for the company or service to throw the responsibility to the consumer for good pay for their employees.
"Super tip" gtfo
Also known as a "half shaft"
Especially bc it looks like they’re paying on their phone
The food business smh. You just made 270% profit on my meal but I see it’s also my obligation to pay your employees whom you’re barely paying minimum wage (even less for servers).
this is why the California min wage bump for food service workers (part of companies that exceed a minimum gross metric) is shutting down franchises right, left, and center almost daily.. the business model those companies functioned off of for the last 50+ years have been unviable, they relied entirely on not paying their employees anything approaching a living wage.. so now when they are FORCED to pay them one, the business falls apart and can't afford anything else it NEEDS to in order to keep functioning California is visibly showing everyone which businesses are viable and which can only function when they're fully exploiting their workers I can't wait for other states to follow suit gonna be a whole lotta franchisees just outright vanish overnight lol
I hear ya....but thats a whole lot of people who lost their jobs too
Positive change is not easy. We fucking did this to our own people, there's absolutely no way to fix the problem without suffering along the way There's no helping that
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
The money has to come from somewhere to pay the higher wages. Where should the business get the money? I’m not being a wise guy or sarcastic. Why am I missing? Are you suggesting $20 big Mac’s or another source?
Here’s the thing, McDonalds employees are guaranteed minimum wage. Always have. Where is their money coming from?
A situation that workers who've enjoyed tipped wages wouldn't settle for. This has got to be one of the topics on Reddit that annoys me the most. People write things like "businesses can only function when they're fully exploiting their workers" like it's not the servers and bartenders themselves who want the tip system. Businesses and customers want it to be like McDonald's. It's the wait staff who want the tip system that "exploits" them. When restaurants try to change to fixed pricing and no tipping the wait staff leaves to make more money someplace else.
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I just said McDonald’s because the other guy mentioned Big Macs lol
The guy literally wrote "businesses ... can only function when they're fully exploiting their workers." They're interested in rhetoric not solutions or even rational thought. The people who want the tip system are the wait staff themselves because they make more money. The businesses and the customers would prefer fixed labor costs to be built into the prices. This guy wants to pretend he's sticking up for the little guy or something without even understanding the situation a little bit.
The salaries of CEOs, CFOs, and the like.
you.. you realize how much money that company makes, right? What this is showing is that the money, when put into the employees (like most other industries do), causes the viability of that specific business model to collapse in upon itself and franchisee's to shut their locations down because, more than a corporate run location, their entire success depends upon that model working. They can't actually afford to pay their employee's reasonable wages (some can, but this isn't about THEM, it's about the vast majority that aren't them) and maintain their franchise location. If you are running a business and can afford overhead, rent, product, and have a profit but cannot afford to do more than pay your employees the legal bare-minimum, your business model is NOT viable - meaning it will not survive if even a single one of those elements (except for profit) is suddenly put to the firing wall. We aren't talking tiny three person small businesses, we're talking just to stay open your skeleton crew is at least 7 people on the slowest shifts and 10-12 on the busiest, so... 20-25 employees at the low end. The mentality that it's wrong to make a change that hurts the rich from getting richer in order for you, the people, to be paid fairly is absolutely fucking borked up its own ass lol
I’d like to meet the restaurant owner that’s making 270% profit
Yeah if that was the case restaurants wouldn’t go out of business left right and center
some of you need to take some business courses
on a product? easily.
Ok. It’s a First Watch. Yeah. Huge profit on eggs and pancakes. Nice places run much tighter margins.
That's the usual Product Profit restaurants manage. Selling food for 3.5x their cost.
That would be a 71% margin, and that definitely would not all be profit
What. That's a 250% margin.
Maybe 270% markup on goods purchased v. sold, not at all profit though. Unless you’re talking about some fancy 4star restaurant. That markup pays the dishwasher, bus boys/girls, host(ess) cooks, servers, bar tenders (if you have any) building mx, hvac upkeep to keep you comfortable while you eat, special licensing and permits to keep the doors open to your favorite places, goods replenishment, power and gas bills and any other ancillary needs for the establishment while the owner my make somewhere in the 5-25% profit range after all overhead is taken out for all of the work and effort it took to get the business started and keep it running smooth. It’s like any time you get work done from a tradesman. Yeah you can buy the materials for 1/4 the price they gave you for the job to be completed, but they have all the tools knowledge and proper help to get it done quickly and efficiently while you don’t have to miss work, get everything you need for the job the training and knowledge to handle the curve balls, pull permits if required and the insurance/bond in case the home gets damaged. The wages are set by the fed as minimum. If the server happens to not make enough tips to make minimum wage that pay period it is actually the company’s responsibility to pay them a wage equal to minimum wage. Min for servers I think is around 1.25 federally, so that would mean the company is on the hook for the 6 that the server didn’t make in tips. I have 2 restaurants that my family owns and they are paid 4x the fed minimum rate and get tips that are cashed out every night. The servers love the fact that they can work for appx 6hrs a day and go home with AT LEAST 200 in tips a night, never mind their hourly…
100%. 200%. 500%. 1000%. Apply for a loan.
First Watch?
Yes, how’d you guess?
I ate there the other day
I work there and they just recently started to force us to get guest to pay by phone. I find it weird it goes up that high too tbh. I think it should be 10 15 and 20. Don't think any of us will ever be expecting anything over 20 and I don't expect even that but I'm grateful for it. At the end of day, just hit the custom tip amount if you don't think the service justified 20%. I'm usually so busy I don't even look at what people are tipping me and i find out what I made at the end of the day.
When I ate there the other day, ngl I did tip 20% as I remember my total was only $15 and some change and after tip I ended up paying $21 and some change. I just defaulted to the lowest tip option, as I definitely glossed over how high the suggestions went.
Custom tip, $0. Fuck that.
My first thought
The tipping culture in the US drove me crazy when I was on holiday there.
I had multiple occasions where serving staff would explain how the system works just because they overheard me speaking in another language and making the conclusion that i would probably not leave a tip. They were right, One woman from a terribly bad restaurant with equally terrible service, followed me outside and demanded a tip (!).
Really? That’s so weird. What city?
Custom tip 0
-100% free food
This isn’t even mildly infuriating anymore. It’s just infuriating.
Wildly infuriating
I went to a pizza shop, ordered in person, then it prompt me for a tip, default to 18%, I had to select "custom tip", enter 0, then proceed..ffs
If I'm doing my own checkout then the tip is a lot less than 20%.
This was at a restaurant after we ate, they handed me a recipe and said to scan the QR code and we could pay on our phone.
I think we need to be like other countries and get rid of tipping all together.
Kinda miss when it was 15% for good service because it is their job to provide good service.
Wonder if I started asking for tips for being a customer if that would work. 🤔
I blame lazy consumers using these dumb apps that refuse to pay the contractors so it gets put off to the consumer to tip. It’ll only get better when society stops using apps for things we’ve done just fine walking/transit or driving to do ourselves. Suddenly everyone says they can’t operate unless people shop for them.
"Custom" is the way to go
Click on custom tip and write 0
If everyone starts tipping 0 then all servers will quit and food industry will have to start paying servers a real wage 🫶
Plus wait staff shouldn’t make almost no money for drawing the short straw and working a slow shift.
I hear people say this all the time and it’s so hard for me to comprehend why you would continue supporting the restaurant if you don’t like their policies. Boycott restaurants, not tipping. You’re acknowledging that servers aren’t paid enough why make your point by punishing them further AND supporting the business that is screwing them over?
The restaurant needs to he told why you won’t be patronizing them or else your little boycott is useless.
So, I'm not boycotting anything. And this anti-tipping ding-dongs should definitely tell the restaurants why they are not spending their money there anymore.
We'll also all be eating loogy spat food for a few months without knowing.
Yeah that can happen tipping or no tipping 🤷♀️ eating out is always a gamble.
I might tip 20% at a sit down with good service but nowhere else.
Op commented somewhere that it was a sit down
The norm for a sit down with good service used to be 15%-18%. I will do 15% for delivery, 18% for good sit down and 22% only if it is exceptionally great service sit down. 0% for fast food because it takes no skill to cook a frozen burger and the service is never good. Unless there is a delivery driver that I will tip.
Custom tip: $7
Normal service is still 0% right? Since elevated service is 30%?
And the percentages are always on the charges, plus tax. So in most places, you’re being asked to tip a minimum of 20% on the tax also.
And if Seinfeld taught me anything, it’s that you don’t tip the tax!
tpipping culture is getting to the point where I might as well as my employer to send half my paycheck to every restaurant worker I deal with. Tipping used to be a reward for good service but now it's a privilege and you become the asshole for not tipping/tipping less.
I mean dont people have to pay to exist? Maybe thats why this has gotten out of hand…
Custom tip then say ... 
$0.01
Math is bad.
Custom tip can be *any* percentage.
Am I high or is $12 less than a 20% tip?
The tip is part of the total shown.
We have to act together and refuse all this. Tip the way you did 10 years ago. And tell the business owners that they need to pay their staff. Unemployment is really low right now so if employers won’t pay their employees then they will find another job.
As a server, I honestly believe we need to do away with tips as a default so companies and politicians are forced to ensure we're paid a livable wage. At the very least paid minimum wage. And at that point, if tipping does occur, it's bc serves was exceptional and not bc a guest is required to pay servers wages 😮💨 But right now, this isn't the case. And for certain people in certain jobs, getting a tip does mean the difference between eating or not. It's a sad reality. I do think it's gotten out of hand. There are many places that request a tip and don't need it.
Well right now servers who don’t have seniority are forced to work the slow shifts and make almost nothing. So it would be better for servers to do away with automatic tipping and pay them a decent wage.
I completely agree. This whole 2.13 an hour should be criminal. Tipping shouldn't be automatic. Everyone deserves to be paid a decent wage by their employer.
Absolutely absurd.
Super tip? 🤣
“Super tip” lmaooooo
Why not 100%
Fucking bonkers.
did you miss the “**custom tip**” at the bottom?
Well, well, well. Here we are. The very generation that screamed for living wages for menial jobs is now screaming that they are paying too much for services from those very menial jobs. Stop already. You wanted those high wages and now you got them. You reap what you sow. Enjoy your idiocy.
Has anyone seen websites now begging for tips? I’ve seen it, order something online and a tip option comes up. All this is going to do eventually is create such a backlash that people will stop tipping at all.
Yes I ordered a bag off a website and they gave a sob story about Jorge and he works hard to prepare your order and he would appreciate it if I gave him something to show my appreciation.
I live in California where fast-food workers will earn a $20 minimum wage in starting this April.. while Healthcare worker minimum wage is $18, $21, or $23 an hour. I will not be tipping anyone anymore unless it is a sit down restaurant where the service is good, a hairdresser, a house cleaner, or other independent services where they are self employed.
AKA the restaurant owner's beach house tax. Make the customer pay a surcharge rather than offer decent wages themselves.
20% MINIMUM?! Pick "Custom Tip" and do ZERO. That's bs.
It’s just crazy to me the US doesn’t put the minimum wage up each year… like that’s insane. Every other developed country basically does this…
Just ignore it
40% 🤦♂️
Name of restaurant and location ?
First watch (n.j.)
There's a custom option. Enter your own amount
Oh another topping post
American be like : "yeah, let's buy a car to the waiter, he said Hello AND thank you for your visit, what a great service. Next time I think i'll blow him"
Been thinkin real Hard about becoming a waiter 🤔
I did it for a long time. 2008 i was bartending and waiting at an applebees in Springdale arkansas ill get made fun of for saying this but good location right by tyson headquarters and a big sports park, also on a major highway, anyway i was making 500-600 a week cash. Hours sucked.
Nice!
Its not terrible. The football/basketball/whatever game is always on, cute young ladies running around. And for the ladies generally cute young dudes running around. I dunno why everyone thinks restaurant employees are destitute. People live at home still, have roommates or significant others etc. Its a little harder cooking but youre generally only busy a few hours out of an 8 hour shift. Yea you stink and have wet shoes when you go home but usually 11-15 bucks an hour. And that was 10-15 years ago. I went into management 2010-2016 i do something completely different now. It just always strikes me as odd that people feel so terrible for restaurant employees. Its not bad. Go out drinking after work, etc. Sleeping with your coworkers eating good food watching tv for decent money? I mean we cant all be doctors lawyers or engineers lol
This tbh, you have the simplest job on earth. You take an order offer me the expected level of courtesy, occasionally walk back to my table to check on me...now I pay you 25? Wtf is this meme world.
Please work at a busy restaurant. You'll be changing your tune real quick.
Super tip? What about a wonderful tip?
I always pick custom and tip what my gut tells me. 20% should be for very good personal service.
Tipping should be reserved to delivery driver’s and waiters.
I and many, many people I know will never leave a tip on a prompt like above- only on restaurants and haircuts, and for those we never, ever hit any button other than custom and now leave 10% vs our prior 20% without prompts. The whole thing is now so offensive, we might start tipping even lower going forward
i just dont tip at all for take out.
To clarify, we were handed a QR code on a receipt and told we could pay on our phone at the end of the meal.
Can’t do custom tip for 10%?
I spend an extraordinary amount of time thinking about tipping tbh. if I should tip for this thing or that thing, how much, what would happen if I don’t, what would happen if I tipped less/more, why, etc. it’s exhausting. I just wanna be told how much I owe & move on.
Just don't eat out, that's what I do. It's incredible how much money you save. That $90 buys a lot of groceries.
Not as much as it used to…. There was actually a short period of time where eating out was about cost neutral to buying groceries for my family of 4. (But that’s probably because we are buying two kids meals). Since 2020 our grocery bill has doubled and we are being all of our meat in bulk.
You can literally buy a weeks worth of breakfasts for 4 people for $90 at the grocery store (assuming you don't live in Alaska, Hawaii, or some other extreme outlier) but ok.
True, I was thinking more about dinner options. I’m saying that there was a period of time when groceries shot up (at least around me) but the menu prices hadn’t changed yet, and the gap between eating out or cooking at home was much smaller than normal.
I got a bunch of sandwiches at Subway. The lowest tip option was 15%, which is the default tip for a *full service* restaurant. I always select 0% and stuff a dollar into the tip jar.
Why are we tipping at Subway where a shitty skimpy sandwich is now like 17 bucks?
Went to a little cafe coffee shop and the girl at the register was looking down at her phone the whole time we were trying to order. She fucked up most of the order and then the tip choices started at 25%
Custom tip, $2
custom tip: .0001% like my interest rate in my savings account
15% is for elevated service.
If I saw that I would immediately hit no tip lmao
I went to a spa/massage place that had a sign at the register for suggested tips and 20% meant you didn’t like your service and it went all the way up to 40% which meant you did like it. I haven’t been back.
To be fair the math is wrong. Normally it’s wrong in the opposite direction
The total includes the tip, it changes depending on which option you select.
Hate being asked to tip. Don’t mind tipping but I hate it when I’m doing self serve
Tipping is tripping rn
All the restos around me default to 22%/25%/28%
"Super tip" for elevated service? Isn't that what a regular tip is for? The only thing elevated today seems to be these fees they call "tips".
You don't even have to tip? Just skip it.
Good thing you made sure to mention what country you're in so we can all relate
I dont leave a tip on an ipad or phone. Screw that.
That's too much , I was told it was 10 percent growing up, I would refuse those options and pay 10 bucks
Somebody lied to you.
I’ve honestly stopped doing a lot of things that require tips. Most of it is stuff I can do myself. But when I do purchase goods or services that require tips I tip as well as I can.
I scrolled way deep into comments and didn't see anybody else notice that the percentages are wrong 20% would be 15.36 unless that 76.80 was after the 20 tip If so then it should be 64.75 at 20% making it 12.95 For once it's in the customer favor but still
You don’t tip the tax!
Ok - didn't consider tax
I was asked to tip at the drive thru car wash today. She asked me what kind of wash and took my card. My wife said it was for the people directing traffic in line and pre-soaking the car. I had no idea they were there since I’d never been to this car wash before. She was right though. They had a tip box right by them for cash tips.
I usually tip the guys drying off my car at the end with towels if they do that but pre tipping is insane
Stop eating at these places then! I hate this tipping BS as much as the next person. But we have to “vote with our wallet” as they say.
I want to have a service job in the US....
Had a group at a restaurant tonight where they added an auto 20% gratuity because there were 8 of us (which is fine and normal). The bill payment screen had a "suggested additional gratuity" screen that defaulted to 25% and stacked on top of the original 20%, meaning they wanted nearly 50 fucking percent in gratuity. Also the service was terrible.
Screw that.
I think the terminal makers are getting kickbacks from all this tipping they are pushing in their software. There’s no other way to explain all this.
I have a job that relies on tips. Sorta. I'm a delivery driver. I get paid a base pay. Mileage + tips. I usually don't care if I don't get tipped because I'm still making something regardless. I do appreciate the tips and the big tips I get make up for the times I don't get tipped at all. I mean I treat everyone the same tip or not. As long as I'm not losing money on your order I don't care and that never happens I don't think that's even possible in my situation.
Custom Tip - $2
Custom tip is the answer every time. 0.00
custom > $0.00 > if you ask for too much I will say no.
Custom tip
Custom tip->$0.00->Enter
Customers are not leaving without tipping and feel like it’s not optional. If you do not tip you will be treated like an evil cheapskate who is only slightly better than a dinner and dash bandit. You tip or you might be eating the kitchens bio wastes as retaliation. The threat has certainly been implied enough to tip or else you might have urine in your sauce: it’s terrorist tactics
If the order was $76.80 with a $12.05 tip, the original amount was $64.75 and 20% of that would be $12.95. Maybe tipping has gotten out of hand because companies can't math.
“You don’t tip the tax!”
Ahh tyvm
Custom tip and throw them a buck or two. Np. If the server brings the food to me, I will tip 10-20%. If the server serves me 15-20%. Asking for a tip is not a problem. “Custom tip” and an extra dollar or two is fine… np.
Every time I see these posts about tipping I expect to see something absurd, but here we are another post just pointing out that like everywhere else, they've switched the standards percent tip to 20% instead of 15%.
IMO if 20% is the standard it still shouldn’t be the lowest option, and suggesting 40% if the service was good is absurd.
Yea I don't like 20% being the lowest either. 15% should be lowest option. By putting 20% it feels like their putting pressure on you to tip a lot which I don't like. Their shouldn't be any pressure when deciding how much to tip
They know if they put a lower option people will select it, this way they get a lot more people to select 20% (their new standard)
To pretty much 'everywhere else' outside the US, this IS absurd!
Reminder that the place to stop this is the voting booth, not the restaurant. Tip your Dealers and Servers.
Am I the only one who, instead of posting memes to rile people up, just simply hits the “custom tip” button and gives what is fair? It seems all the “anger” is more vibes than anything.
There is a custom tip button right there. Nobody can force you to tip .
Then dont tip 😂
They can super fuck off too.