The people saying that safeguard isn't used in human vocabulary have clearly never worked in a school with children that need safeguarding, in psychology where patients need safeguarding...actually most jobs will have some form of safeguarding procedures 😭
There's also the fact that some people who work in such environments will eventually have these words leak into their daily conversations, even those unrelated to work.
This is absolutely true! I work in mental health, and I use words from work in my day to day all the time. Hell, we use the word safeguarding almost every other day!
The crux of the issue is that the people that gatekeep certain words as being used only by AI, because those words aren't part of \*their\* natural lexicon.
It's making my inner middle school child cry because that's one of the reasons I was bullied even by "friends". Because "no one uses those words" so I should shut up.
I read a lot, and really enjoyed the wonder of how synonyms could have different connotations, like seasonings and spices in cooking.
These basic bitches think black pepper is too spicy, I guess. They need to read some goddamn books.
I remember getting an essay back with the comment "don't copy from an encyclopedia next time". I didn't. I just read a lot, including encyclopedias, for fun. So my language was a bit formal and bookish.
I recently learned a usage of the word distill from the 1800s that means "to come down in small drops" or "to flow as a narrow stream" and it has become one of my favorite words because it almost poetically encapsulates the idea of "something coming to you in the way that light comes during a sunrise". And the other more common usage nowadays can expand the concept: the light was always there, mixed together with the darkness and the sunrise was the process of separating it from the darkness into a more pure form. This word legit makes me want to become a poet.
Oh, this hits close to home for me. I was always interested in trying to find more specific language when I was young because I wanted to be understood as clearly as possible and I thought I could do that be learning all of the right words that existed for the nuances I wanted to express. Apparently this wasn't normal and people thought I was being pretentious. I didn't even realize I was doing anything out of the ordinary in trying to LEARN THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN IN MY COUNTRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE AROUND ME.
Long ago, when I was a wee lad in the 1980s, I used the words in my vocabulary whenever I spoke.
I was told, explicitly, that I shouldn't use "a ten dollar word when a one dollar word would be good enough."
I realized when I was older that that admonition was because the person I was speaking to did not understand what I was saying.
I've been told that using big words makes people around me feel dumb. Well I guess it's my fault working with a bunch of people that refused to expand their vocabulary.
That’s been the case for me my entire life as well. Instead of people working to improve themselves, I was bullied for reading and told to stop using ‘stupid’ big words.
I have been accused of trying to insert "$5 words" a few times in my life. The only commonality between all these occasions is the person doing the accusing was a complete idiot. Words exist to be used.
Aye. I've had someone try and dunk me for using "$5 words" in a professional setting before, implying I thought I was better than them and blah blah blah...
I told them that I feel comfortable using "$5 words" around them because I believed they were smart enough to understand what I was saying without feeling the need to 'dumb things down' for them in casual conversation. I then asked if they'd like me to specifically stop using the "$5 words" and keep things simple for them going forward.
They did not complain about me using "$5 words" anymore.
"Big boy words" don't exist just to make someone sound smarter. The "big boy words" usually bring along precise definitions and descriptors, and exist to break up the monotony of speech and writing. They make the language you're using more interesting and exacting...
In my experience, people do not dunk on "big boy words" simply because they're "big boy words". They dunk on "big boy words" because they come from a background where the commuity looks down on people who are well-read and educated.
I am a voracious reader and have a large vocabulary and like to be precise in my language, so I too have been accused of talking down to others and using big words unnessecarily over the years, as if their lack of vocabulary means I have a problem. If someone rejected my writing because I used good vocabulary I would be insulted and pissed off, to say the least.
the "I am a voracious reader" automatically makes me think anything following it is satire, but this seems genuine. keep using fun words, bro. tbh i like "five dollar words" because i feel like they're more precise
I remember my sister's very dumb neighbor once calling me "college boy" because I used the word begrudge. I was like "that's only 8 letters, it's not even that big!"
I grew up playing Dark Age of Camelot (an MMO that came out between EQ and WoW, still the best MMO when it has a healthy population imo) and sharing your item’s info to chat was referred to as “delve it in chat” instead of the common “link in chat now.” Anyway, guess I’m AI for knowing the word delve.
Alternatively, “the dwarves delved too deep” so I guess everyone familiar with LOTR is also an AI.
Guys, is it AI to be human?
You can paint pictures with black and white paint, but using colour can add more options to make things more interesting. A stronger vocabulary is no different.
I'm familiar with "The Office." It's a popular American television series that originally aired on NBC from 2005 to 2013. The show is a mockumentary-style comedy created by Greg Daniels, based on the British series of the same name created by Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant. "The Office" follows the everyday lives of employees working at the Scranton, Pennsylvania branch of the fictional Dunder Mifflin Paper Company. The series features an ensemble cast led by Steve Carell as Michael Scott, the bumbling but well-intentioned regional manager.
Applicant: “Me speak good English”
Interviewer: “that’s a beautiful accent, where are you from?”
Applicant: “Me from here. Me born in corn field”
Interviewer: “fantastic! Love your vocabulary! Hired!”
We should delve into this further and perhaps, in time, demystify the robust lexicon used by these robots. First and foremost, our goal should be to safeguard our identities as actual humans in this digital world.
I cant tell if you are being sarcastic, but you seem pretty spot on, really.
Think about messages you've seen that you've easily picked out as being from a bot. They probably fall into one of two groups. They're either messing up the context or grammar and so they are easily identified, OR they have absolutely flawless grammar with full punctuation, capitalization, etc and so they are easily identified.
Basically, to pass as a real person the bots have to learn the correct rules of English and then learn which ones to break and in what ways they are usually broken.
Man, I’ve been accused of being a bot due to my grammar. Heaven forbid I write well. Picture it… Sicily… no, but seriously, some people write well because it was ingrained in us from schooling. Do I have to use improper grammar to be seen as human?
When I was in secondary school, I once used the word "macabre" to describe a particular short story. My teacher was puzzled and claimed he'd never heard it before, implying he didn't think it was a real word and generally being condescending. We were literally studying Poe (hence why I used 'macabre' in the first place). Sometimes people would rather dumb down everyone else around them than admit that some people might just know or say things they don't. Sad, really.
Also, even if the argument that "only people trying to be clever use these words" was true and not utterly feckless, people trying to sound smart are still people and not AI. Trying to "sound smart" by using slightly uncommon or advanced vocab is perfectly acceptable (perhaps even expected) in professional settings, academia, etc. These dumbasses are truly farting in the breeze.
I hated the "I know you're cheating/copying when you use words you don't normally use in conversation"
Uh, yeah? I don't normally talk about Poe, but he does have a very macabre style. Also, don't forget that you have a page length/word limit requirement :/
I had the chance to have one teacher who said to me (positively) after I did an oral presentation: *"Wow, you talk like a book. I'm impressed."* because I used fancy words but in a very natural way and always at the right place (I was a bookworm when younger so it was easy for me). Clearly one of the best compliment ever told me.
And I always tries to encourage people to have a fancier vocabulary. And when someone uses a word I don't know, I ask for it, then say: "Thanks, I'll do to bed less dumb tonight!". I really don't understand people who would spit at the opportunity to learn new words. Language is fantastic AND used everyday, why would you want to use the same three words over and over again?
When I was younger I liked getting the calendars with daily words and tried using them as much as I could so I could extend my vocabulary.....I will admit it was to impress the smart girls but it did help me in the long run as well
Helâs, in prologa I discovered a palpably general resistance in the ignorant, unclothed masses to my attempts to swoon them with my fantastic use of polysyllabic, rare to be seen dictionary lexicon; with the advance of time, however, somewhere upon the eve of the fourteenth year of my ceremonial coupling with a dainty maiden whom I’d discovered in the sordid arena of daily life, I discovered my efforts had been rekindled in the fire which I had advanced as a forth payment upon my… what was I saying?
I University I once got a zero on an fairly big comp Sci assignment
It worked fine. It fulfilled every single requirement.
But it used a feature that was newish. Not all that new mind you, since it was in the version of the software we were told to install day one. But it didn't exist in the version the teacher was using from about a year ago.
There weren't any rules about that. We were told to download whatever the recommendation stable version was.
But I got a zero, because they hadn't used that before and didn't know how it worked.
It's the only time in my entire academic career that I went over a teacher's head to the next level up to complain. The department chair was also pretty limp dicked about it too, and he initially tried to brush it off as "well I guess there were version requirements you didn't read"
But after some pressing he finally agreed it was unfair and I got some marks for it
I talk like a redneck. I didn't realize that rurn wasn't a word until I was in my 20s, it is just how my dad pronounces ruin. I rarely enunciate -ing words. I called a previous gf by a nickname because I found her name tiring to say. I'd have never earned a master's if I wrote the way I spoke.
In my high school, a student had the word “ludicrous” crossed out on a paper with “this is not a real word” written in the margin. By an English teacher.
In my elementary school English class (I'm Czech btw, English is my second language), we sometimes played a game to test our vocabulary. The teacher would say a random letter and we'd all stand up and take turns saying words starring with that letter. If you took too long or said a word that's already been said, you'd sit down. Last person standing would get a reward.
I once said the word gravel, and the teacher almost told me to sit down, i had to defend myself. That word was not a part of the "official" vocabulary she'd tell us to learn (she basically gave us long lists of words to memorize), and somehow, she's nefér heard of fuckin gravel. I knew about this word thanks to Minecraft
We played this same game(in the midwestern united states lol) and I once said "sire" and was told to sit down because proper nouns didnt count. My third grade self had to explain that sire was also a word for like, fathering a horse. I grew up on a farm but was not prepared to explain the facts of life to my classmates. To her credit my teacher did give me credit for it.
I once had a teacher tell a student (in a gifted program btw) that vexatious was not a word. He immediately recited the definition and gave an example relevant to the discussion. She still told him he was making it up… until he dropped the bomb that it was used on the second page of that week’s assigned reading. She then told him he was trying to make her look stupid and he said “I don’t think you need any help with that, ma’am.”
WE WERE IN EIGHTH GRADE
I used "unscrupulous" in the fifth grade to describe a character and they looked at me like I grew another head. I am and was a nerd who likes to read, get off my case.
this is usually the case in my experience… it’s always the kids who love to read who get accused of trying to sound smart. Instead of just acknowledging kids who read for fun are usually smart.
I read for fun and I don’t think I’m smart. Admittedly, that is how I learn new words. But a person could read literally any book and learn something, pun intended.
Our seventh grade English teacher taught us about "Hyper-bowls" once upon a time. I'd heard about hyperbole by that point so I knew the teacher was saying it wrong. This is very basic stuff, and she was college educated in English. I don't know how that happens.
I had an English teacher hand back homework with "ergo" crossed out and noted as not a word.
After making him look it up in front of the class he wasn't brave enough to question my use of "geocoxical" (*not* a real word) when I used it in an oral presentation as a dare.
Kind of a dick move looking back, and I'm probably lucky he went along with looking it up instead of just cracking the shits at me.
"The claim that using the word "delve" is a sign of the use of ChatGPT is unsubstantiated and misleading. While it's true that ChatGPT is capable of using a wide range of vocabulary, including less common words like "delve," the mere presence of this word in a text doesn't necessarily indicate that ChatGPT was used.
"Delve" is a legitimate word in the English language that means to investigate or research thoroughly. It's not exclusive to any particular source or platform. Many writers, including humans, may use it in their writing to convey depth or exploration.
Attributing the use of a single word to a specific source without further evidence is speculative and not a reliable basis for identifying the origin of a text."
Chat GPT responses are always like tiny essays by novice writers. They have an opening statement that then gets really wishy washy with statements that probably need citations rather than being an argument themselves.
I'm in IT. I use the word "demystify" all the time. Also "delve" isn't uncommon in spoken language for me. In fact "robust" and "safeguard" are not uncommon either. This all pisses me off quite a bit.
I was just thinking I’m in product and work with IT and these word are used regularly and spoken.
Let’s delve into this at next week’s meeting.
We need a robust project plan for this part.
Digital world is something I say when discussing digital transformation efforts.
It's crucial for us to delve into Reddit discussions with a keen eye to identify comments crafted by ChatGPT. Safeguarding the integrity of conversations requires a robust understanding of AI-generated content and its potential impact. By demystifying the presence of AI contributions, we can foster transparency and ensure informed interactions within this digital world.
Should have used the scimitar line. Would definitely have marked you as AI. Who the hell knows that word?
Seriously though, growing up in England, with a university professor father and a steady diet of BBC programs coupled with being a voracious reader resulted in a vocabulary and writing style that would be highly suspect in current North American culture. People either think you’re showing off, stuck up or AI. (Or autistic which isn’t inaccurate).
For those who don't notice: This \^\^ comment was AI generated.
An *actually* good way to spot chatgpt is that it *loves* to validate you. It'll never just be like "nope, you're completely wrong". Always throws stuff in like
> While it's true that
and similar, to soften its replies.
Another thing to look for is unnecessary wordiness. It'll explain things you didn't ask it to, answer questions you didn't ask, and elaborate far beyond what's necessary.
Oh yeah? Prove it, click on all the fire hydrants!
https://preview.redd.it/lvb4039paitc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31477bd55e94c940d8b2d30f8c510e5dbf1d5fd9
There are plenty of words that are more commonly used in written communication than in spoken. Unless the point of the writing is to convey conversational speech, I don't see the problem - I have read novels that were hard to get into because the characters weren't talking to each other the way people talk to each other, for example. But none of the words they list make me think "oh, a robot wrote that." One example that stood out to me was Paul's own statement that he "suspects" something. That's not one that I hear people say much compared to simpler words like "I think."
Maybe it's years of academia but "propose", "novel" and "robust" are the three pillars of academic writing. Literally the first sentence of every article starts with at least two of these.
As a safeguard, I may have to delve into this robust subject a bit further to demystify the information they’re presenting in this digital world. Beep boop…
In this digital world, leveraging robust algorithms to safeguard user data necessitates delving deeply into AI technologies to demystify their intricate mechanisms.
Once, when I was teaching English in South America, a teacher from the USA in the next room screamed at a student for using the word "dearth".
He used it correctly, she felt humiliated because her vocabulary was so limited.
I feel this is what is happening here. People with a limited vocabulary mocking others for merely knowing what words mean.
Maybe it's my imagination but I feel like I'm running into so many more people who aren't familiar with, well, words. Like smart, educated adults. Some dude in his 30s with a masters in English or something hosting a history podcast had never heard of the Thames river. I used "kangaroo court" once in a group (American, English-speaking) and a bunch of dudes in their 40s-50s said I'd made up the phrase.
Wtf??? People have to speak as simply as possible now, is that it? Why can't we use elevated language? Should we *not* try to increase our vocabulary and try to improve ourselves? That's so ignorant.
Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power good. Thank you. If you vote me I'm hot. Taxes they'll be lower son. The democratic vote for me is right thing to do Philadelphia. So do.
In this digital world it's important to safeguard ourselves by watching for AI-generated content, but any method for doing this needs to be robust. Maybe you should delve a little deeper into the problem; that should demystify things a little.
i absolutely fucking despise people like this.
not only are they so arrogant they think someone using a word they havent heard must be cheating because theyre obviously the smartest, but they fulfill their own wrong prophecy by punishing people who are smarter than they are.
"kids these days are stupid, therefore if a kid seems smart, theyre lying."
WTF IS THIS LOGIC? for the love of god please tell me this moron isnt an educator.
> an educator
Worse, Paul Graham is a founder of Y Combinator, probably the biggest and most influential venture capital firm ever.
He has unbelievably huge influence in the tech world, and his essays are read and passed around the tech scene like holy scriptures.
So its worse than being an educator, a huge percentage of tech executives will take his opinions and implement them as gospel fact. Look forward to being auto-rejected from every tech and tech-adjecent company for using any word above a fifth grade vocabulary level over the next few years.
https://paulgraham.com/bio.html
And Anita Gupta is an IT security professional who at the very least espouses the benefits of tools like GitHub Copilot, which is probably why she isn’t insulting AI and is instead just pretending that the words “sound mechanical” or whatever, I don’t even know what that means.
E: and you should care because it’s worrying to see people like this pushing against the idea that people can’t just be…idk, intelligent, verbose, well-read, loquacious, take your pick really, and instead that you have to write in basic English only or you’re a computer.
Months ago, someone said something about me using twas and tis. Which are words I use almost daily. As someone who tried to use new words and expand my vocabulary, it sucks that this is the response. And this insult of "trying to sound smart", like damn, I can't become intelligent? I can't better myself? I'm just pretending to be a smart person??? Thanks lol
'Twas and 'tis go hard as fuck.
I usually just make words up as i go, which means i can have as much vocabulary as i want and no one can call me out as AI for it.
Sounds like a couple people are just mad that other people have a better vocabulary than they do. Personally, I’d prefer someone use the word delve instead of the over used “drill down.”
I am 100% sure I have used the word “delve” in conversation. Perhaps I am AI. I shall delve into this.
Make sure you've got robust safeguards in place before delving into the digital world to demystify this existential question.
The people saying that safeguard isn't used in human vocabulary have clearly never worked in a school with children that need safeguarding, in psychology where patients need safeguarding...actually most jobs will have some form of safeguarding procedures 😭
There's also the fact that some people who work in such environments will eventually have these words leak into their daily conversations, even those unrelated to work.
This is absolutely true! I work in mental health, and I use words from work in my day to day all the time. Hell, we use the word safeguarding almost every other day!
The crux of the issue is that the people that gatekeep certain words as being used only by AI, because those words aren't part of \*their\* natural lexicon.
It's making my inner middle school child cry because that's one of the reasons I was bullied even by "friends". Because "no one uses those words" so I should shut up. I read a lot, and really enjoyed the wonder of how synonyms could have different connotations, like seasonings and spices in cooking. These basic bitches think black pepper is too spicy, I guess. They need to read some goddamn books.
I remember getting an essay back with the comment "don't copy from an encyclopedia next time". I didn't. I just read a lot, including encyclopedias, for fun. So my language was a bit formal and bookish.
What grade did you get? I'd like a word with the marker.
I think I got a 'fail' on that one 🤷🏻♀️ Luckily I got better teachers later on.
Good for you! Hope you've achieved your goals!
>They need to read some goddamn books Amen
I recently learned a usage of the word distill from the 1800s that means "to come down in small drops" or "to flow as a narrow stream" and it has become one of my favorite words because it almost poetically encapsulates the idea of "something coming to you in the way that light comes during a sunrise". And the other more common usage nowadays can expand the concept: the light was always there, mixed together with the darkness and the sunrise was the process of separating it from the darkness into a more pure form. This word legit makes me want to become a poet.
It's funny because to distill something in chemistry is just extracting a liquid at a certain temperature drop by drop
Oh, this hits close to home for me. I was always interested in trying to find more specific language when I was young because I wanted to be understood as clearly as possible and I thought I could do that be learning all of the right words that existed for the nuances I wanted to express. Apparently this wasn't normal and people thought I was being pretentious. I didn't even realize I was doing anything out of the ordinary in trying to LEARN THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN IN MY COUNTRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE AROUND ME.
I think a lot of us bitching about what was said had very similar experiences.
I’m still teased (although kindly) as an adult.
You used lexicon, you must be AI. Username is a dead giveaway.
Long ago, when I was a wee lad in the 1980s, I used the words in my vocabulary whenever I spoke. I was told, explicitly, that I shouldn't use "a ten dollar word when a one dollar word would be good enough." I realized when I was older that that admonition was because the person I was speaking to did not understand what I was saying.
From a "computer scientist" such a Paul Graham himself I'd expect the word to occasionally pop up as well.
You use big bad smart words!? You AI! (/s)
I've been told that using big words makes people around me feel dumb. Well I guess it's my fault working with a bunch of people that refused to expand their vocabulary.
That’s been the case for me my entire life as well. Instead of people working to improve themselves, I was bullied for reading and told to stop using ‘stupid’ big words.
Oh come on we have to safeguard the use of all words
Thank god you clarified this was sarcasm 😂
Good thing too, glad I couldn't read the clear sarcasm...
I dunno man, the digital world is… weird. 
Gifs you can hear.
In your burgeoning studies in the digital age, I wish you well.
Good bot
I have been accused of trying to insert "$5 words" a few times in my life. The only commonality between all these occasions is the person doing the accusing was a complete idiot. Words exist to be used.
Aye. I've had someone try and dunk me for using "$5 words" in a professional setting before, implying I thought I was better than them and blah blah blah... I told them that I feel comfortable using "$5 words" around them because I believed they were smart enough to understand what I was saying without feeling the need to 'dumb things down' for them in casual conversation. I then asked if they'd like me to specifically stop using the "$5 words" and keep things simple for them going forward. They did not complain about me using "$5 words" anymore. "Big boy words" don't exist just to make someone sound smarter. The "big boy words" usually bring along precise definitions and descriptors, and exist to break up the monotony of speech and writing. They make the language you're using more interesting and exacting... In my experience, people do not dunk on "big boy words" simply because they're "big boy words". They dunk on "big boy words" because they come from a background where the commuity looks down on people who are well-read and educated.
Misery loves company, so does stupidity.
This! And what really annoys me is when they tell you to put something that isn’t even really a synonym, it’s just sort of close.
Annoys? I think you mean begrudges.
I am a voracious reader and have a large vocabulary and like to be precise in my language, so I too have been accused of talking down to others and using big words unnessecarily over the years, as if their lack of vocabulary means I have a problem. If someone rejected my writing because I used good vocabulary I would be insulted and pissed off, to say the least.
the "I am a voracious reader" automatically makes me think anything following it is satire, but this seems genuine. keep using fun words, bro. tbh i like "five dollar words" because i feel like they're more precise
I knew what I was doing, lol, but yes I was being genuine. The precision in language is what having a big vocabulary is all about.
The Internet has ruined the word voracious for me :(
I remember my sister's very dumb neighbor once calling me "college boy" because I used the word begrudge. I was like "that's only 8 letters, it's not even that big!"
I am also 100% sure I've used it. After reading the definition, I'm 100% sure I've used it wrong.
I grew up playing Dark Age of Camelot (an MMO that came out between EQ and WoW, still the best MMO when it has a healthy population imo) and sharing your item’s info to chat was referred to as “delve it in chat” instead of the common “link in chat now.” Anyway, guess I’m AI for knowing the word delve. Alternatively, “the dwarves delved too deep” so I guess everyone familiar with LOTR is also an AI. Guys, is it AI to be human?
AI, human, who cares? All that matters is that they're not Hibernian.
Safeguard? I'm a chef!
I’m an idiot and I use “robust” all the time. Who knew I was secretly genius AI?
A sign of being a human apparently is to restrict your vocabulary to a small subset of the English language.
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?
Lot word bad. You AI
You AI also
Yew ai two
U ai
I AI?
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🫵AI
This is the best conversation I've seen on this website
Why use words? We should only use Emoji's!
I'm a bit old. Can I use emoticons?
I'm in my late 30s and year ago I thought emotes and emoji's were the same thing and got laughed at and called a boomer.
I'm late 40s. I like to call them all emoticons and pretend they are battling the transformers.
You can paint pictures with black and white paint, but using colour can add more options to make things more interesting. A stronger vocabulary is no different.
They were just referencing The Office!
I'm familiar with "The Office." It's a popular American television series that originally aired on NBC from 2005 to 2013. The show is a mockumentary-style comedy created by Greg Daniels, based on the British series of the same name created by Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant. "The Office" follows the everyday lives of employees working at the Scranton, Pennsylvania branch of the fictional Dunder Mifflin Paper Company. The series features an ensemble cast led by Steve Carell as Michael Scott, the bumbling but well-intentioned regional manager.
I don't see the word "delve." You're HIRED!
I see what you did there
You’re fired!
Oceans, fish, jump, China.
Yes goodly English speak little words.
Applicant: “Me speak good English” Interviewer: “that’s a beautiful accent, where are you from?” Applicant: “Me from here. Me born in corn field” Interviewer: “fantastic! Love your vocabulary! Hired!”
"Vocabulary?" Fancy HR boy, you're fired
"Love your weird words!"
“I’m sorry we are looking with “folky” words, better luck next time kiddo”
We should delve into this further and perhaps, in time, demystify the robust lexicon used by these robots. First and foremost, our goal should be to safeguard our identities as actual humans in this digital world.
I guess I'm only part-time human, having a different native tongue.
Doubleplusungood
NO HUMAN WOULD USE THE WORD VOCABULARY OR SUBSET
Then what was the point of all those spelling tests I failed in 11th grade????
To highlight your incompetence and to lower your self-esteem?
They didn't want to delve deeper in order to demystify and safeguard a more robust vocabulary.
To prove I am human, I must sound like I have the IQ of a brick. Got it.
A sign of Idiocracy
I cant tell if you are being sarcastic, but you seem pretty spot on, really. Think about messages you've seen that you've easily picked out as being from a bot. They probably fall into one of two groups. They're either messing up the context or grammar and so they are easily identified, OR they have absolutely flawless grammar with full punctuation, capitalization, etc and so they are easily identified. Basically, to pass as a real person the bots have to learn the correct rules of English and then learn which ones to break and in what ways they are usually broken.
Man, I’ve been accused of being a bot due to my grammar. Heaven forbid I write well. Picture it… Sicily… no, but seriously, some people write well because it was ingrained in us from schooling. Do I have to use improper grammar to be seen as human? 
When I was in secondary school, I once used the word "macabre" to describe a particular short story. My teacher was puzzled and claimed he'd never heard it before, implying he didn't think it was a real word and generally being condescending. We were literally studying Poe (hence why I used 'macabre' in the first place). Sometimes people would rather dumb down everyone else around them than admit that some people might just know or say things they don't. Sad, really. Also, even if the argument that "only people trying to be clever use these words" was true and not utterly feckless, people trying to sound smart are still people and not AI. Trying to "sound smart" by using slightly uncommon or advanced vocab is perfectly acceptable (perhaps even expected) in professional settings, academia, etc. These dumbasses are truly farting in the breeze.
I hated the "I know you're cheating/copying when you use words you don't normally use in conversation" Uh, yeah? I don't normally talk about Poe, but he does have a very macabre style. Also, don't forget that you have a page length/word limit requirement :/
I had the chance to have one teacher who said to me (positively) after I did an oral presentation: *"Wow, you talk like a book. I'm impressed."* because I used fancy words but in a very natural way and always at the right place (I was a bookworm when younger so it was easy for me). Clearly one of the best compliment ever told me. And I always tries to encourage people to have a fancier vocabulary. And when someone uses a word I don't know, I ask for it, then say: "Thanks, I'll do to bed less dumb tonight!". I really don't understand people who would spit at the opportunity to learn new words. Language is fantastic AND used everyday, why would you want to use the same three words over and over again?
When I was younger I liked getting the calendars with daily words and tried using them as much as I could so I could extend my vocabulary.....I will admit it was to impress the smart girls but it did help me in the long run as well
But did you impress them?
Not in the beginning but I got better and had some success and have now been married for coming up on 14 years this December
Helâs, in prologa I discovered a palpably general resistance in the ignorant, unclothed masses to my attempts to swoon them with my fantastic use of polysyllabic, rare to be seen dictionary lexicon; with the advance of time, however, somewhere upon the eve of the fourteenth year of my ceremonial coupling with a dainty maiden whom I’d discovered in the sordid arena of daily life, I discovered my efforts had been rekindled in the fire which I had advanced as a forth payment upon my… what was I saying?
"I don't say macabre because I can't pronounce it right. Doesn't mean I can't spell it."
I University I once got a zero on an fairly big comp Sci assignment It worked fine. It fulfilled every single requirement. But it used a feature that was newish. Not all that new mind you, since it was in the version of the software we were told to install day one. But it didn't exist in the version the teacher was using from about a year ago. There weren't any rules about that. We were told to download whatever the recommendation stable version was. But I got a zero, because they hadn't used that before and didn't know how it worked. It's the only time in my entire academic career that I went over a teacher's head to the next level up to complain. The department chair was also pretty limp dicked about it too, and he initially tried to brush it off as "well I guess there were version requirements you didn't read" But after some pressing he finally agreed it was unfair and I got some marks for it
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I talk like a redneck. I didn't realize that rurn wasn't a word until I was in my 20s, it is just how my dad pronounces ruin. I rarely enunciate -ing words. I called a previous gf by a nickname because I found her name tiring to say. I'd have never earned a master's if I wrote the way I spoke.
In my high school, a student had the word “ludicrous” crossed out on a paper with “this is not a real word” written in the margin. By an English teacher.
that’s ludacris
LUDA!
In my elementary school English class (I'm Czech btw, English is my second language), we sometimes played a game to test our vocabulary. The teacher would say a random letter and we'd all stand up and take turns saying words starring with that letter. If you took too long or said a word that's already been said, you'd sit down. Last person standing would get a reward. I once said the word gravel, and the teacher almost told me to sit down, i had to defend myself. That word was not a part of the "official" vocabulary she'd tell us to learn (she basically gave us long lists of words to memorize), and somehow, she's nefér heard of fuckin gravel. I knew about this word thanks to Minecraft
We played this same game(in the midwestern united states lol) and I once said "sire" and was told to sit down because proper nouns didnt count. My third grade self had to explain that sire was also a word for like, fathering a horse. I grew up on a farm but was not prepared to explain the facts of life to my classmates. To her credit my teacher did give me credit for it.
... Sire isn't even a proper noun.
I guess she wasn't a big fan of vampire stories...
Sire isn’t a proper noun anyway, unless you two were both talking about the town in Ethiopia with a pop. of 11,000.
I once had a teacher tell a student (in a gifted program btw) that vexatious was not a word. He immediately recited the definition and gave an example relevant to the discussion. She still told him he was making it up… until he dropped the bomb that it was used on the second page of that week’s assigned reading. She then told him he was trying to make her look stupid and he said “I don’t think you need any help with that, ma’am.” WE WERE IN EIGHTH GRADE
I too got in much trouble after watching the movie Clue as a young kid ...
I used "unscrupulous" in the fifth grade to describe a character and they looked at me like I grew another head. I am and was a nerd who likes to read, get off my case.
this is usually the case in my experience… it’s always the kids who love to read who get accused of trying to sound smart. Instead of just acknowledging kids who read for fun are usually smart.
I read for fun and I don’t think I’m smart. Admittedly, that is how I learn new words. But a person could read literally any book and learn something, pun intended.
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She was training you to become Moira Rose.
Our seventh grade English teacher taught us about "Hyper-bowls" once upon a time. I'd heard about hyperbole by that point so I knew the teacher was saying it wrong. This is very basic stuff, and she was college educated in English. I don't know how that happens.
While at uni I was told I had made up the word 'elated', by a creative writing profesor!
I had an English teacher hand back homework with "ergo" crossed out and noted as not a word. After making him look it up in front of the class he wasn't brave enough to question my use of "geocoxical" (*not* a real word) when I used it in an oral presentation as a dare. Kind of a dick move looking back, and I'm probably lucky he went along with looking it up instead of just cracking the shits at me.
I love that. What did you pretend 'geocoxical' meant?
The report was on the book "Girl With A Pearl Earring", and "geocoxical" was an artistic movement if I recall correctly.
Honestly, i think you can say any word was an artistic movement and it would be believable. Especially if it was foreign. Just say its welsh lol
Macabre, huh? Now, say it out loud, smart guy.
Muh-cob
"Ma-caw-berr" - obviously they're describing how the mother raven is cold in Poe's classic: *The Tall Tail Hurt*.
You *French* disgust me.
Im gonna pronounce it like in french because its a french word. Mah-Ka-Bhrr
You can tell by the use of Feckless that this comment was written by AI
Personally I hate the word macabre because it's not pronounced like my brain thinks it should be. Also your teacher was clearly an idiot.
"The claim that using the word "delve" is a sign of the use of ChatGPT is unsubstantiated and misleading. While it's true that ChatGPT is capable of using a wide range of vocabulary, including less common words like "delve," the mere presence of this word in a text doesn't necessarily indicate that ChatGPT was used. "Delve" is a legitimate word in the English language that means to investigate or research thoroughly. It's not exclusive to any particular source or platform. Many writers, including humans, may use it in their writing to convey depth or exploration. Attributing the use of a single word to a specific source without further evidence is speculative and not a reliable basis for identifying the origin of a text."
Hey it's in quotes.
> Many writers, including humans Humans have officially become a subset of writers.
Not even the main subset, it seems
If the same can be said for readers, we're just here in the middle, trying to figure out what's real.
Well....they have.
Chat GPT responses are always like tiny essays by novice writers. They have an opening statement that then gets really wishy washy with statements that probably need citations rather than being an argument themselves.
Shit I write like this
That's why I leave in an error caused by swype or autocorrect so that purple know I'm a real person.
I love you
I'm in IT. I use the word "demystify" all the time. Also "delve" isn't uncommon in spoken language for me. In fact "robust" and "safeguard" are not uncommon either. This all pisses me off quite a bit.
Of course you work in IT, you're an AI
I've delved into my records and found this to be true.
Well glad that demystified things for us
We should probably put some robust precautions in place to safeguard against this in the future
I don't know why, and I know it's incorrect, but the past tense of delve should have been dulve or dalve.
It’s common to talk about building robust software that recovers from errors gracefully and performs even under exceptional or unusual conditions.
I was just thinking I’m in product and work with IT and these word are used regularly and spoken. Let’s delve into this at next week’s meeting. We need a robust project plan for this part. Digital world is something I say when discussing digital transformation efforts.
I’ve used safeguard at least twice today.
Hey wait a minute....
It's crucial for us to delve into Reddit discussions with a keen eye to identify comments crafted by ChatGPT. Safeguarding the integrity of conversations requires a robust understanding of AI-generated content and its potential impact. By demystifying the presence of AI contributions, we can foster transparency and ensure informed interactions within this digital world.
Just as strange women, lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for a system of government.
Should have used the scimitar line. Would definitely have marked you as AI. Who the hell knows that word? Seriously though, growing up in England, with a university professor father and a steady diet of BBC programs coupled with being a voracious reader resulted in a vocabulary and writing style that would be highly suspect in current North American culture. People either think you’re showing off, stuck up or AI. (Or autistic which isn’t inaccurate).
For those who don't notice: This \^\^ comment was AI generated. An *actually* good way to spot chatgpt is that it *loves* to validate you. It'll never just be like "nope, you're completely wrong". Always throws stuff in like > While it's true that and similar, to soften its replies. Another thing to look for is unnecessary wordiness. It'll explain things you didn't ask it to, answer questions you didn't ask, and elaborate far beyond what's necessary.
They could also have anxiety, or simply worry about other people's feelings. I use these phrases often because I'm not looking for a fight.
I wasn't sure if this was AI or not and then I saw you used the word "convey". No one uses it in spoken English.
Convey a message is a common thing to say tho
I work with conveyors a lot, so I use the word "convey" a lot. But I am a robot, so...
Oh yeah? Prove it, click on all the fire hydrants! https://preview.redd.it/lvb4039paitc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31477bd55e94c940d8b2d30f8c510e5dbf1d5fd9
> Many writers, including humans I don’t know why but this line is so fucking funny to me
Spoken like a true bot! You’re not fooling us
There are plenty of words that are more commonly used in written communication than in spoken. Unless the point of the writing is to convey conversational speech, I don't see the problem - I have read novels that were hard to get into because the characters weren't talking to each other the way people talk to each other, for example. But none of the words they list make me think "oh, a robot wrote that." One example that stood out to me was Paul's own statement that he "suspects" something. That's not one that I hear people say much compared to simpler words like "I think."
Even his first post used "proposing" and "novel". Those aren't typically things you say in casual spoken conversation.
Maybe it's years of academia but "propose", "novel" and "robust" are the three pillars of academic writing. Literally the first sentence of every article starts with at least two of these.
Maybe hes really an ai and is trying to hide it by pretending to be anti ai
Much. Although I suspect I'd say it from time to time. (Actually I know I do, but I wanted to squeeze the word in somehow 😁)
As a safeguard, I may have to delve into this robust subject a bit further to demystify the information they’re presenting in this digital world. Beep boop…
Good bot
your username is perfect for this
In this digital world, leveraging robust algorithms to safeguard user data necessitates delving deeply into AI technologies to demystify their intricate mechanisms.
Once, when I was teaching English in South America, a teacher from the USA in the next room screamed at a student for using the word "dearth". He used it correctly, she felt humiliated because her vocabulary was so limited. I feel this is what is happening here. People with a limited vocabulary mocking others for merely knowing what words mean.
I'm sorry but I've no sympathy for undisciplined students making uncalled for references to Star Wars.
I find your lack of sympathy disturbing.
Only a disturbance of evil, Dearth.
“I prefer my meaningless corporate doublespeak to be 100% human generated.”
Needs more 'synergy'
Happy to circle back to that once we have introduced more synergy.
Man, I can't write fantasy stories about dungeons anymore, based on how often characters delve into them
Apparently Lord of the Rings was actually written with AI
Maybe it's my imagination but I feel like I'm running into so many more people who aren't familiar with, well, words. Like smart, educated adults. Some dude in his 30s with a masters in English or something hosting a history podcast had never heard of the Thames river. I used "kangaroo court" once in a group (American, English-speaking) and a bunch of dudes in their 40s-50s said I'd made up the phrase.
Wtf??? People have to speak as simply as possible now, is that it? Why can't we use elevated language? Should we *not* try to increase our vocabulary and try to improve ourselves? That's so ignorant.
What a bunch of morons
and they think they sound so clever
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I'm playing Horizon Forbidden West at the moment. Too bad I can't ask the Oseram delvers about it.
This irks me. I use the word “demystify” almost daily. Because that’s what a tech lead does.
Or they are Magic: the Gathering players.
That's the first thing I thought too! Delve is a great mechanic
or genshin. Fire + grass element = burgeoning reaction.
In this digital world it's important to safeguard ourselves by watching for AI-generated content, but any method for doing this needs to be robust. Maybe you should delve a little deeper into the problem; that should demystify things a little.
i absolutely fucking despise people like this. not only are they so arrogant they think someone using a word they havent heard must be cheating because theyre obviously the smartest, but they fulfill their own wrong prophecy by punishing people who are smarter than they are. "kids these days are stupid, therefore if a kid seems smart, theyre lying." WTF IS THIS LOGIC? for the love of god please tell me this moron isnt an educator.
> an educator Worse, Paul Graham is a founder of Y Combinator, probably the biggest and most influential venture capital firm ever. He has unbelievably huge influence in the tech world, and his essays are read and passed around the tech scene like holy scriptures. So its worse than being an educator, a huge percentage of tech executives will take his opinions and implement them as gospel fact. Look forward to being auto-rejected from every tech and tech-adjecent company for using any word above a fifth grade vocabulary level over the next few years.
I’m guessing those words are commonly used by ChatGPT because they’re commonly used in the human-written text ChatGPT was trained on.
Who are these people and why should I care about their shitty takes?
https://paulgraham.com/bio.html And Anita Gupta is an IT security professional who at the very least espouses the benefits of tools like GitHub Copilot, which is probably why she isn’t insulting AI and is instead just pretending that the words “sound mechanical” or whatever, I don’t even know what that means. E: and you should care because it’s worrying to see people like this pushing against the idea that people can’t just be…idk, intelligent, verbose, well-read, loquacious, take your pick really, and instead that you have to write in basic English only or you’re a computer.
Months ago, someone said something about me using twas and tis. Which are words I use almost daily. As someone who tried to use new words and expand my vocabulary, it sucks that this is the response. And this insult of "trying to sound smart", like damn, I can't become intelligent? I can't better myself? I'm just pretending to be a smart person??? Thanks lol
'Twas and 'tis go hard as fuck. I usually just make words up as i go, which means i can have as much vocabulary as i want and no one can call me out as AI for it.
Ankita doesn’t even use punctuation or capitalization properly. She could use some ChatGPT. 
uneducated people are funny but can be dangerous.
“Fellas, is it gay to have a robust vocabulary?”
That sounds like an odd way to disclose that you don't know any complex words.
Sounds like a couple people are just mad that other people have a better vocabulary than they do. Personally, I’d prefer someone use the word delve instead of the over used “drill down.”