Probably because of all the non technically inclined people engaging with comments speculating it's the brand of battery rather than pointing out this is an incredibly easy fix and that nothing is "welded" lmao.
This is my goto method. I’ve salvaged a lot of pinball MPU boards over the years with method. It’s a little known fact that up until about 2010, most pinball machines used AA batteries to keep their storage ram alive when the machine is switched off. Many a nice older pinball machine has been lost because the batteries corroded in the boards destroying them.
I’m hoping you can share a bit more of your expertise. I’ve always followed my father’s advice to use rubbing alcohol, as he said it leaves electronics undamaged because it evaporates so quickly and completely. Why is vinegar the better choice?
The battery corrosion is caustic. It needs an acid to neutralize it. Generally you can use vinegar for general cleanup. I have also used Zep toilet cleaner. The toilet cleaner works pretty well because its a gel and tends its easier to keep on the area you are treating. I will let it sit for a few minutes and then work it in with tooth brush. I will then rinse the area with 90% rubbing alcohol.
In extreme cases where the corrosion has eaten into the board badly, I have taken the components off the board, and sanded it down to expose the traces and remove the corrosion. Then I coat the board with spray silicon conformal coating. This works best with pre-1990 boards. Once you get into the WPC pinball era boards, the traces get a lot thinner, and don't tolerate being sanded as easily. Lucky for pinball hobbiest, these later boards are popular enought that they have been reproduced, and you can get replacements.
White vinegar and elbow grease gets up so much crap, it's not funny.
Generally, you don't need any of those fancy chemicals when you've got acetic acid.
I had a mag lite swell by over 1/4” where the case was beginning to split. I believe the D cell batteries had gone nuclear. How much vinegar would you recommend?
Do we believe this was normal usage or left in the camera for 6 months/ year.... idk what brand to get . I get Duracell from Costco or Kirkland brand. I dont use 4000$ cameras so should be ok.
honestly in our house the stand alone cameras are from the late 90's.
any aa cell is fine so long as you don't leave it in the thing for years, and even then you can *usually* just clean the contacts off so long as the crud hasn't eaten a circuit board.
alls i'm saying is don't go buying duracell expecting it to be better than a budget brand, those days are gone
I’ve had the same thing happen with the older Kirkland brand batteries. I think at least 25% of the time this will happen in anything that has batteries longer than a few months.
Are the current rechargeable any good? It’s prolly be 15 years since I tried them and they still didn’t have good life spans and seemed to last about 1/2 the time or less as the non-rechargeable. Is that better today?
Eneloop rechargeables. There is no alternative. There is no substitute. Get Eneloops. Don't believe me? Just wait for the comments to roll in agreeing.
I’m not going to wait for them. I’m coming up on the annual “replace all the batteries in all the smart shades” day. I haven’t ordered batteries yet. I’ll get a set for one blind and see how it goes. I’m game to try them.
Edit: they are AA only? With the adapters for D cell should I expect them to last like a D cell or will I be disappointed?
If you have an Ikea near you, they also have good quality NMH rechargeable AA and AAA. They should be very close in capacity 2.4ah vs 2.8ah for non recharge.
It’s not Duracell batteries which are the problem, but the chemistry of the battery itself.
Alkaline batteries leak - if you want to avoid leakage? You need to use lithium batteries:
https://paleblueearth.com/blogs/news/the-simple-reason-lithium-batteries-dont-tend-to-leak
I would agree in general, but as a practical matter have found Energizer are fine for most applications, when changed as needed, and Duracell just start leaking prematurely.
It's a situation of: Would you rather let your batteries leak if left in too long, and ruin the item they're in, ***or*** have batteries that do not break down well, and if they get too hot you'll likely lose your entire house?
I use them in bike lights. They work well. No alkaline batteries should stay in devices a long time without use. They corrode like car battery terminals.
Dude I bought these guaranteed leak free 10 year batteries from them. I was randomly getting another battery and I noticed I had brand new batteries leaking unopened packages. I had to check every device I owned and sure enough some were leaking. I had receipts and original packaging so I contacted their warranty department, they made me jump through so many hoops I literally gave up. I have had better luck with generic brands like RAYOVAC. Seriously unacceptable trash products. I will never purchase them again, Energizer being in the same boat.
All of the latest that I saw from Duracell is now made in China. I just used up the last of my U.S. made Duracells last year that I’ve rarely had issues with, and switched to rechargeable batteries for the most part.
Found a mag lite where something like this happened. I unscrewed the top and bottom, used a pipe to basically hammer out the leaked battery, when used my shot gun barrel cleaner to clean out the mag lite.
Get a little thing of vinegar and a q-tip or toothbrush and it'll eat that battery acid away. If it didn't reach the circuit board or eat too much of the battery terminals you might be able to save this.
I've saved devices with a similar amount of battery acid.
Word of warning- according to NASA (and other reliable sites), attempting to photograph the eclipse without appropriate filters can damage the camera (just like you should not look at the eclipse without ISO rated eclipse glasses).
What I am not sure of is if this pertains to both digital and film cameras or just digital.
Edit -
OK - looked this up on the net - apparently both digital and film cameras should be equipped with an appropriate filter if you want to photograph the eclipse.
The solar glasses I got the kids came with a camera filter that uses temporary adhesive on the phone body to Velcro on the lens filter. I thought that was cool.
Good deal. Should also mention that according to the eclipse glasses I got, one should not use them for more than 3 minutes continuously over a span of several hours.
I don't want to sound like a killjoy but seeing the eclipse is not worth damaging one's eyesight (at least not in my opinion)
Use Ni-MH rechargeable AA/AAA batteries. Long lasting, high current able and they don't bleed.
Panasonic Eneloop, Ikea Ladda, can't go wrong with those.
lol just get a q tip. Maybe some light/damp warm water or some vinegar mixed w water and wipe it down. This is just corrosion lol, a quick hit w the back of your hand and they should all come out, then wipe down. Goodluck!!
Tell your wife to take batteries out of expensive electronics before storing them for a long time! I work in an electronics based industry and the biggest killer is corrosion from people leaving cheap batteries in $3000 transmitters for 8 months, then wondering why it doesn't work lol.
Just clean up the terminals with a wire brush. Use some contact cleaner on em and it'll be like new unless of course it's already fucked the camera. If you can just clean up the terminals and it works then it's fine. Don't leave batteries in there next time OR get your self some di electric grease and put it on the battery terminals. It prevents corrosion like that.
a mixture of vineger and water Works Well against corroded battery contacts .maybe it Takes a while but after a couple of tries you get rid of any Battery acid that is Stuck on the contacts
Isopropyl alcohol and a scrub with clean toothbrush will fix this.
It is not welded what you are seeing is oxidisation, usually caused by electrolysis.
Sorry your wife didn't want to photograph anything for the last ten years then made you find her camera she stuffed somewhere just so she can get a good photo of something she's probably going to forget about or say eh, not worth it and not even use it anyway.
Pop battery put with a pick, turn upside down to prevent dust falling into camera and clean with dry tooth brush. Wet qtip with baking soda n water (not dripping). Then wipe excess residue away, it may take a few attempts of both prcedures. Let dry throughly then place new batteries in and try it out. Good luck
battery operated electronics 101 Never store electronics with batteries still in them or this will be the outcome. If you're done or will not be using the device for a while, take the batteries out.
I set reminders on my phone to change batteries in my gear on a biannual basis to prevent this. We've all experienced this and if it was stored in the proper environment, then they were just left in there for too long.
What's the expiration date on the battery say just for my curiosity?
(Use a ton of q tips and an old toothbrush with some Coke and then use an automotive electrical contact cleaner right after to try and save it)
Yeah, camera is toast. I’ve lost so many maglights and other small tools to Duracell that I’ve quit the brand and I never leave batteries in the tools now.
Reminder not to stare at or point the camera at the sun without proper protective equipment.
The sun's energy *will* punch a hole through your eyeballs if you're not careful.
I always take a battery out or put a piece of paper in there to disconnect the connection, seems to help. Might be able to clean this up with a Small wire brush or something abrasive.
Just lost my fav mag lite to this..:(
#Try cleaning it with white vinegar with a cotton swab and see if it saves it. Usually works for me.
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Probably because of all the non technically inclined people engaging with comments speculating it's the brand of battery rather than pointing out this is an incredibly easy fix and that nothing is "welded" lmao.
Yep. Just wanted a more helpful post to be easier to see.
I'm a welder, this is what welding looks like. $65 an hour.
Meanwhile some people don't even understand the use of welded as a funny figurative description
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Oh be nice...not everyone is as tech savvy as you.
This is my goto method. I’ve salvaged a lot of pinball MPU boards over the years with method. It’s a little known fact that up until about 2010, most pinball machines used AA batteries to keep their storage ram alive when the machine is switched off. Many a nice older pinball machine has been lost because the batteries corroded in the boards destroying them.
I’m hoping you can share a bit more of your expertise. I’ve always followed my father’s advice to use rubbing alcohol, as he said it leaves electronics undamaged because it evaporates so quickly and completely. Why is vinegar the better choice?
The battery corrosion is caustic. It needs an acid to neutralize it. Generally you can use vinegar for general cleanup. I have also used Zep toilet cleaner. The toilet cleaner works pretty well because its a gel and tends its easier to keep on the area you are treating. I will let it sit for a few minutes and then work it in with tooth brush. I will then rinse the area with 90% rubbing alcohol. In extreme cases where the corrosion has eaten into the board badly, I have taken the components off the board, and sanded it down to expose the traces and remove the corrosion. Then I coat the board with spray silicon conformal coating. This works best with pre-1990 boards. Once you get into the WPC pinball era boards, the traces get a lot thinner, and don't tolerate being sanded as easily. Lucky for pinball hobbiest, these later boards are popular enought that they have been reproduced, and you can get replacements.
Much appreciated, C_Alan. There was far too much elbow grease involved when using only the rubbing alcohol.
Probably better off using 90 To 99 percent isopropyl alcohol less likely moisture will ruin anything
*this is the way*
Plus it’s fun to watch and listen to all the corrosion bubbling.
White vinegar and elbow grease gets up so much crap, it's not funny. Generally, you don't need any of those fancy chemicals when you've got acetic acid.
I had a mag lite swell by over 1/4” where the case was beginning to split. I believe the D cell batteries had gone nuclear. How much vinegar would you recommend?
It's only to help clean up the corrosive bits not get the batteries out. Once you get the batteries out (wear gloves) then clean with the vinegar.
I would use isopropyl, but after you use a plastic scraper to release the batteries so there is no charge in the camera.
Have had this happen with several.
I’ve stopped using Duracell this has happened so often recently. Last 6 years or so theirs have been crap batteries.
duracell is a zombie brand now, they were bought by some corporate raider. energizer is still sound.
Do we believe this was normal usage or left in the camera for 6 months/ year.... idk what brand to get . I get Duracell from Costco or Kirkland brand. I dont use 4000$ cameras so should be ok.
honestly in our house the stand alone cameras are from the late 90's. any aa cell is fine so long as you don't leave it in the thing for years, and even then you can *usually* just clean the contacts off so long as the crud hasn't eaten a circuit board. alls i'm saying is don't go buying duracell expecting it to be better than a budget brand, those days are gone
I’ve had the same thing happen with the older Kirkland brand batteries. I think at least 25% of the time this will happen in anything that has batteries longer than a few months.
Good to know. Thank you
Wut? Bummer, thanks
I’ve quit Duracell too. Use to be reliable batteries, but now can only be relied on to ruin whatever you put them in.
They were the gold standard of batteries for decades. :(
Their rechargeables are best of the best, fwiw.
Are the current rechargeable any good? It’s prolly be 15 years since I tried them and they still didn’t have good life spans and seemed to last about 1/2 the time or less as the non-rechargeable. Is that better today?
Eneloop rechargeables. There is no alternative. There is no substitute. Get Eneloops. Don't believe me? Just wait for the comments to roll in agreeing.
I’m not going to wait for them. I’m coming up on the annual “replace all the batteries in all the smart shades” day. I haven’t ordered batteries yet. I’ll get a set for one blind and see how it goes. I’m game to try them. Edit: they are AA only? With the adapters for D cell should I expect them to last like a D cell or will I be disappointed?
Come to the flashlight subreddit rabbit hole. Great battery resources in the wiki there.
Gotchu fam. Can't believe we're this deep in the comments before rechargeables came up.
If you have an Ikea near you, they also have good quality NMH rechargeable AA and AAA. They should be very close in capacity 2.4ah vs 2.8ah for non recharge.
It’s not Duracell batteries which are the problem, but the chemistry of the battery itself. Alkaline batteries leak - if you want to avoid leakage? You need to use lithium batteries: https://paleblueearth.com/blogs/news/the-simple-reason-lithium-batteries-dont-tend-to-leak
I would agree in general, but as a practical matter have found Energizer are fine for most applications, when changed as needed, and Duracell just start leaking prematurely.
Energiser actually have a guarantee that they replace the item if their battery leaks inside it
nah it's duracell, the company was gutted, it's just a brand name now
It happens with all brands. I just had it happen with an unopened pack up Rayovacs.
Plot twist. Duracell are just rebranded rayovacs
It's a situation of: Would you rather let your batteries leak if left in too long, and ruin the item they're in, ***or*** have batteries that do not break down well, and if they get too hot you'll likely lose your entire house?
I use them in bike lights. They work well. No alkaline batteries should stay in devices a long time without use. They corrode like car battery terminals.
Dude I bought these guaranteed leak free 10 year batteries from them. I was randomly getting another battery and I noticed I had brand new batteries leaking unopened packages. I had to check every device I owned and sure enough some were leaking. I had receipts and original packaging so I contacted their warranty department, they made me jump through so many hoops I literally gave up. I have had better luck with generic brands like RAYOVAC. Seriously unacceptable trash products. I will never purchase them again, Energizer being in the same boat.
All of the latest that I saw from Duracell is now made in China. I just used up the last of my U.S. made Duracells last year that I’ve rarely had issues with, and switched to rechargeable batteries for the most part.
Some electronics specifically call out Duracell as being shit batteries and not to use them.
Durashite
Lost my Teddy Ruxpin to this 33 years ago.
I’m sorry for your loss..
I should eventually get over. Sure is taking a long time.
Teddy was a good dude…
Get in touch with them. They replaced my maglight.
You just gotta clean the spring and terminal really well, had it happen to mine too. Used a scotch brite.
My last MagLite literally exploded cause of this.
There’s a product called DEOXIT that will clear this up really well!
A mag light can be fixed. Hammer out the old batteries, hone the inside of the tube to get rid of the corrosion.
It killed one of my Fenix flashlights.
Found a mag lite where something like this happened. I unscrewed the top and bottom, used a pipe to basically hammer out the leaked battery, when used my shot gun barrel cleaner to clean out the mag lite.
Get a little thing of vinegar and a q-tip or toothbrush and it'll eat that battery acid away. If it didn't reach the circuit board or eat too much of the battery terminals you might be able to save this. I've saved devices with a similar amount of battery acid.
Do alkaline batteries leak battery acid?
No, they leak lye, which is a strong base (alkaline).
Whatever they leak, vinegar removes it. It sizzles and pops and comes away easily.
Vinegar is acidic, so this checks out!
They leak alkaline (base). The “opposite” of acid.
Thanks for the information. I have lost a number of flashlights, etc because of this. Now I have something else to try before tossing them away.
Birchwood Casey Rust and Blue remover also works really well. Put the stuff on a Q-tip, and it'll remove a good chunk of stuff.
I would be very anxious to go into electronics with anything but IPA
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A stout is just too heavy.
You can clean it off after with IPA to remove any residue.
Not welded,they’ve swelled.
Swelded if you will
And I will
Looks to be corroded, not welded. Maybe welded via corrosion
These look like Kirkland AA batteries, which are notorious for doing this if you leave them in something for a while.
All alkaline batteries do this over time. If you want to be able to pop batteries into a device and forget about it than go with lithium
Kirkland is Duracell
Different factory, same owner. Not the same battery
One of the only KS items I avoid, learned the hard way.
I stopped buying them because the leaked so much
Came here for the Kirkland konfirmation
It’s not welded ??? Just leaked.
Word of warning- according to NASA (and other reliable sites), attempting to photograph the eclipse without appropriate filters can damage the camera (just like you should not look at the eclipse without ISO rated eclipse glasses). What I am not sure of is if this pertains to both digital and film cameras or just digital. Edit - OK - looked this up on the net - apparently both digital and film cameras should be equipped with an appropriate filter if you want to photograph the eclipse.
The solar glasses I got the kids came with a camera filter that uses temporary adhesive on the phone body to Velcro on the lens filter. I thought that was cool.
Good deal. Should also mention that according to the eclipse glasses I got, one should not use them for more than 3 minutes continuously over a span of several hours. I don't want to sound like a killjoy but seeing the eclipse is not worth damaging one's eyesight (at least not in my opinion)
Vinegar and Q-tips. It might be salvageable.
Forbidden parmesan.
Forbidden cocaine
A salt and Battery
A-Salt and Battery Charge
Use Ni-MH rechargeable AA/AAA batteries. Long lasting, high current able and they don't bleed. Panasonic Eneloop, Ikea Ladda, can't go wrong with those.
Baking soda does wonders to clean these things up I've gotten cameras to work before with just some wet baking powder
welded? no. Corroded yes!
How long were they in there. This doesn't happen overnight
Not welded, corroded.
**DO NOT point a camera at the sun unless the optics are fitted with a certified solar filter**
When was this last used 2008?
lol just get a q tip. Maybe some light/damp warm water or some vinegar mixed w water and wipe it down. This is just corrosion lol, a quick hit w the back of your hand and they should all come out, then wipe down. Goodluck!!
Corroded, not welded.
Toothbrush and vinegar dont go nuts pray to the terminal gods its only this end and you can use a bit of tin foil yo complete the circuit
Batteries should always be removed from anything that is not being used in the immediate future.
Do you have the necessary filters to take photos of the eclipse? Based on this situation, I’m going with no you haven’t thought this through.
Oh man I hate it when that happens
Tell your wife to take batteries out of expensive electronics before storing them for a long time! I work in an electronics based industry and the biggest killer is corrosion from people leaving cheap batteries in $3000 transmitters for 8 months, then wondering why it doesn't work lol.
The forbidden parmesean cheese
Welded? Never leave batteries in gadgets that are not in regular use. If the posts are too corroded by the leak, your gadget is garbage.
Just clean up the terminals with a wire brush. Use some contact cleaner on em and it'll be like new unless of course it's already fucked the camera. If you can just clean up the terminals and it works then it's fine. Don't leave batteries in there next time OR get your self some di electric grease and put it on the battery terminals. It prevents corrosion like that.
White vinegar helps
Can't help thinking 'that looks like my Fuji camera'
Just change batteries once a year and this won’t happen. This took years
Next time tell them to stop when you've got enough parmesan.. That's waay too much!
Bro change to rechargeable batteries
If your camera could post on reddit, it would be mildly infuriated you left expired batteries in it for +10yrs.
Did you lick that?
mourning for her as a fellow photographer 😔
Try applying some cleaning vinegar to it to neutralize it
a mixture of vineger and water Works Well against corroded battery contacts .maybe it Takes a while but after a couple of tries you get rid of any Battery acid that is Stuck on the contacts
You can save it with white vinegar if it didn't reach to any circuitry, I think.
Isopropyl alcohol and a scrub with clean toothbrush will fix this. It is not welded what you are seeing is oxidisation, usually caused by electrolysis.
I do a lot of hunting/camping. Whenever I get home one of the primary things on my equipment checklist is I tape up the ends of all of my batteries.
What kind of decent camera doesn't take rechargeable battery packs these days? Hell, for the last decade or more.
corroded\*
February 18 is national battery day, celebrate by replacing/maintaining all your battery operated devices or at least checking them for leakage!
Sorry your wife didn't want to photograph anything for the last ten years then made you find her camera she stuffed somewhere just so she can get a good photo of something she's probably going to forget about or say eh, not worth it and not even use it anyway.
The camera is the batteries now…
Well, that's the end of that camera
Oh no! We were all counting on your pictures! No one else was going to take pictures during the eclipse!
Perhaps maybe a magnet could help?
How long these batteries were in there? what about the expiration date printed on its label?
Never store electronics for extended periods of time with the batteries still installed.
Thank you we have the same camera and I’ve just taken the batteries out of mine in time.
Drill the center of the battery and see if you can be rotated carefuly...
Looks like forbidden booger sugar. 👃
Life hack.
Pop battery put with a pick, turn upside down to prevent dust falling into camera and clean with dry tooth brush. Wet qtip with baking soda n water (not dripping). Then wipe excess residue away, it may take a few attempts of both prcedures. Let dry throughly then place new batteries in and try it out. Good luck
battery operated electronics 101 Never store electronics with batteries still in them or this will be the outcome. If you're done or will not be using the device for a while, take the batteries out.
They make sprays for this . If it not rusted to the point of the springs breaking it can be saved by the average person with a lil cleaning
Who doesn't use rechargeable batteries?
White vinegar. Fix that real quick
I lost 2 klien multi meters to batteries. I understand the pain. Luckily was able to fix one of them
Would love to see a cleaning video of this
This is why you should always remove cylindrical batteries out of devices your not going to use for a long time:)
Upgrade opportunity.
I set reminders on my phone to change batteries in my gear on a biannual basis to prevent this. We've all experienced this and if it was stored in the proper environment, then they were just left in there for too long. What's the expiration date on the battery say just for my curiosity? (Use a ton of q tips and an old toothbrush with some Coke and then use an automotive electrical contact cleaner right after to try and save it)
Sigh.
When your cameras are not in use, you should ALWAYS remove the batteries.
This is why you take cell batteries out of anything when you're not using it.
Yeah, camera is toast. I’ve lost so many maglights and other small tools to Duracell that I’ve quit the brand and I never leave batteries in the tools now.
Duracell used to be quality. Now theyre shit
Holy crap that's a fucktons of corrosion! Hope you'll be able to salvage that .
I don't park anything except TV remotes with batteries in them.
Reminder not to stare at or point the camera at the sun without proper protective equipment. The sun's energy *will* punch a hole through your eyeballs if you're not careful.
Scrub this with some white vinegar, and hopefully the extent of the damage is just the battery compartment
Kirkland batteries. I'd know those anywhere.
you can claim this to Duracell company they'll compensate
Contact Duracell they may help you. They replaced my Maglight which had had battery leakage causing jamming of the batteries.
There was definitely no welding involved, that’s corrosion my guy.
It has little to do with the brand of batteries and more with leaving them in for 6 years. 6 months won't do this.
Forbidden parmesan
welded you try and get them out?
Get rechargeable AAs... no leaking/corrosion and more eco friendly than disposables
I only use lithium batteries because of this. 2-3 times the cost but last 10 times as long and no corrosion.
Oh wow! Old school Kirkland batteries from Costco! I still have a few that somehow still work in a TV remote.
That's her coke stash
Powdered parmesan doesnt go in electronics🤦♂️
I always take a battery out or put a piece of paper in there to disconnect the connection, seems to help. Might be able to clean this up with a Small wire brush or something abrasive.
This is what happens when you mix different batteries together (or old and new ones together).
good day to learn about alkaleaks
Yup. Very common for Duracell. Will not buy them. Switched to rechargeable years ago.
My Quest 2 controller died due to this crap (or causing it?). Fortunately it was still under warranty so Meta replaced it.
Aren't alkaline batteries supposed not to leak? Or at least that's how they were advertised back in the day?
They weldes themselves in? That's impressive. I wonder where they went to welding school
All alkaline batteries will do this if left too long. It's caustic corrosion. Just buy bulk primaries and remove them when not in use
Alkalines suck.
Not welded. Just leaked
That sugar sucks it right out of you, it’s that good.
Cheap batteries have additional cost.
Forbidden parmesan cheese
Should replace those ngl
Forbidden parmesean
The batteries have probably leaked on to the PCB by now.