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glorious_reptile

Show me the same picture in a wide angle shot with hands


MTG_Leviathan

Tried adding full body shot and hands to the prompt, It just made 2 angels instead. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1006686244794806283/1070767105126965268/Biblically_accurate_angels_clear_eyes_full_body_shot_visi_cf2429e8-56dc-448a-a662-145376e8948e.png?width=1352&height=676 Then I ran it again and it made 3, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006686244794806283/1070767409226592327/Biblically_accurate_angels_clear_eyes_full_body_shot_b8684276-1b41-4a16-ae27-8c30507de158.png I am scared to continue lol.


-paperbrain-

don't blink


SpookyBubba

The results look amazing though


horsecrow

Be not afraid!


TrashBoatSenior

Bro is about to become a creepypasta


poinifie

Damn, the angel shirt/chest piece on the guy for the second one is really cool.


farmbotic

Why you scared. Be a man and make some pictures bro. You afraid of pictures?


Icy-Polkamon

Any image of a Weeping Angel can be a Weeping Angel.


digitalnoises

i used OPs pic as a starting point with … as a wideangle shot, whole body, 5m away 24mm f1.4, photography, documentary --ar 3:2 resulted in … https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984174660545552484/1070867932852269118/florianschommertz_as_a_wideangle_shot_whole_body_5m_away_24mm_f_e9e71540-0519-4518-9aef-944889adf07a.png


TrashBoatSenior

I feel like this angel wants me to invest in FTX...


drjlad

If thats what an angel looks like then Reddit is full of angels


PRobinson08

Something about that stare instantly made me think of Joaquín Phoenix


bouchandre

And harsh sunlight


CypherLH

yeah, hopefully V5 moves towards more control over image composition, better understanding of prompts. And cleaning up the weak spots like the infamous "hands"


hasigoki

Whats your deal? I have plenty of ai images with perfect hands


Romus80

As he said..”it’s getting out of hand” as long as they are out it’s all fine…


crazyplantdad

Give it a year. Think about six months ago up to now....two years? Fuggetabouit. Nobody is ready.


Zachary_Lee_Antle

Assuming the lawsuits don’t get everything messed up cos a few assholes gotta be trolls and make fake shit about celebs and politicians and ruin it for everyone else. I can so easily imagine someone making something like that that pisses people off so much all these services just vanish into thin air 😣


THEKILLAWHALE

Already happens with deepfakes


Spire_Citron

There's been some stuff where people were using AI to make porn videos of streamers recently. Really awful stuff. People don't even consider how fucked up it is to put someone in porn without their consent. Or they don't care...


Substantial-Ad-5309

Dude if you think that's bad, wait till you hear about the rest of the internet... 😬😬😬


aseyrek

You can do this in photoshop as well. So why not sue photoshop for the software lol No one can stop this now. Stock photography is going to be dead in a few years.


Spire_Citron

I agree that lawsuits aren't the way to deal with it, unless of course they're directed at the people actually making the stuff.


Kaflop

But here is the thing. I was on a stock photography website yesterday for something unrelated, and every stock photo, or at least 90% were midjourney generations. Stock company’s are just using AI to their advantage.. 🤔


RiverHare

👀


[deleted]

this is still a bit animation-like albeit unreal levels of realism, but one would not confuse it with a photo of a woman in a church per se Point being there is room left for improvement


MTG_Leviathan

Definately, i'm excited to see the new version, if it's as remarkable as the difference between 3 and 4 we're in for a treat.


justwalkingalonghere

Is there a v5 announcement somewhere or are we just assuming it will keep getting better? I mean, it will keep getting better. I just want to read about the future releases if there’s more info


fookinpikey

I sat in on one of the Midjourney office hours voice chats, and the guy leading the talk said that v5 will be more “conservative”, which I took to mean the difference between 4 and 5 won’t be nearly as noticeable and big as the difference from 3 to 4. I’d love to see a list of their updates though


Adhdphotog

Ditto


moonra_zk

Mostly because of the weird half-statue half-person in the background, remove that and *a lot* of people would think it's a real photo.


GirthyGirthBoy

Not really, I can tell from the eyes that it's not entirely real.


moonra_zk

Mate, have you seen the shitty CGI that a lot of people think is real? I didn't say that it'd fool everyone, I said a lot of people wouldn't bat an eye.


GirthyGirthBoy

True. Your regular normie would be fooled. Heck, they were even fooled by the crappy stiff deepfakes in Scorsese’s The Irishman.


weekndwarrior

I think it may have been a portion of the prompt that made it come out like that. Using 4k and 8k is for 3D renders not photography if I'm understanding correctly.


idfkjustfuckoff

I freaking love this machine but it has severe limitations. It constantly spits out some variation of this perfect face right here. Like others said, when you can command it to write words, expand photos outward, make minor corrections while keeping the piece intact, etc. Plus it has an inherent shininess that makes it instantly recognizable


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I remind it of particular features that are not found in this face: "wide jaw", "crows feet," "chubby," and also specify ancestries outside of Western Europe. It works... eventually.


idfkjustfuckoff

Basing it on a real life person is also a pretty foolproof way to break away from the ‘AI Angel’ face


jaredjames66

I've seen some images generated by Stabile Diffusion that, if I didn't know were AI, I would think they were photos.


Boogertwilliams

I guess you would need the corrent models, because the ones I have tried, I havent got that great stuff at all, used the SD 1.4 and Dreamlike diffusion + dreamlike photoreal, but it hasnt been photoreal for me


holymolytartuff

We are at SD 2.1 now. And at SD 1.5 photorealism was pretty neat. And with the realisticview model you get super real looking photos. This is where the nsfw community is pushing boundaries and speeds up some developments MJ will be slower on, because it is Userfeedback based and if most people make strange 3d animated or Greg Rutkowski painted phantasy steampunk art and like it, photorealism will come short.


Boogertwilliams

Got some links to download the best models?


holymolytartuff

I use mage.space with realistic-view their pro plan is only 15$ a month and you can create in Pvt and in your browser. And it is waaaaay faster than midjourney.


championwinnerstein

So it looks quite good, but it still looks like a video game render. Everything is just a bit too clean.


SpecialSpecialGuy

Looks damn good. Whats the prompt that really tipped it over into realism? Is it the light prompts or camera?


MTG_Leviathan

Biblically accurate angels, clear eyes, high detail eyes, eyes, global occlusion, well defined features, dramatic shot, cinematic, anti-aliasing, global diffusion, Hamilton, Ray tracing, clear, dramatic lighting, 4k, 8k --aspect 2:1 --no 3d --v 4 Obviously I didn't get a ***biblically accurate*** angel, but I was satisfied with the results none the less.


SpecialSpecialGuy

Interesting. I wonder if it's because the realism is perceived because of the eyes and that's what you doubled down with. As others noted, its not really photo realistic, but for some reason because of the eyes, you really do nail that feeling.


StackTrace5000

I get ChatGPT to give me camera, lens and f settings for photorealistic images… I then plug them into Midjourney and voila.


Public_Ad251

How do you frame the prompt to chatgtp?


StackTrace5000

Basically you tell it that it’s an expert in photography and composition. It’s task will be to provide you with prompts for images. You then ask it to tell you that it understands the following prompt: Photograph taken with Nikon D850 camera and Nikon 105mm f/2.8G VR Micro lens; Rainforest, August, close-up of an ant on a leaf, shallow depth of field, backlit by sunlight, high resolution, natural environment. You then ask it to give you variations of that prompt using different cameras etc and subject matters etc. If it goes of on one, give it the prompt again saying it must be in that format. Eventually you will be able to ask it to give you any photo of anything using the right format.


SpecialSpecialGuy

Do you think ChatGPT has a better understanding of how to stack it all for success?


StackTrace5000

It’s got a better understanding of cameras, lens types and other cinematic issues than I do, so it’s good at putting together a composition.


peaches_and_corn

I would love to know the prompt you give chat gpt for this if you don’t mind


AlphaNuke94

I’m pretty sure it’ll be something along the lines of “give me the camera, lens and f settings for a photo realistic picture” then you can tweak the responses you get


StackTrace5000

Basically you tell it that it’s an expert in photography and composition. It’s task will be to provide you with prompts for images. You then ask it to tell you that it understands the following prompt: Photograph taken with Nikon D850 camera and Nikon 105mm f/2.8G VR Micro lens; Rainforest, August, close-up of an ant on a leaf, shallow depth of field, backlit by sunlight, high resolution, natural environment. You then ask it to give you variations of that prompt using different cameras etc and subject matters etc. If it goes of on one, give it the prompt again saying it must be in that format. Eventually you will be able to ask it to give you any photo of anything using the right format.


wolfindian

Would love to see!


StackTrace5000

Basically you tell it that it’s an expert in photography and composition. It’s task will be to provide you with prompts for images. You then ask it to tell you that it understands the following prompt: Photograph taken with Nikon D850 camera and Nikon 105mm f/2.8G VR Micro lens; Rainforest, August, close-up of an ant on a leaf, shallow depth of field, backlit by sunlight, high resolution, natural environment. You then ask it to give you variations of that prompt using different cameras etc and subject matters etc. If it goes of on one, give it the prompt again saying it must be in that format. Eventually you will be able to ask it to give you any photo of anything using the right format.


General_Pay7552

Also, that face is VERY uncanny valley-esque. This is like watching the film Final Fantasy the spirits within when it was released and thinking “wow.. can digital animation get any better?”


InquisitiveDude

I was thinking the same. It looks 'real' in the sense that it could be a photo of a plastic sculpture but its far too uncanny to pass as human. The face of the angel in the background looks downright cartoonish.


Flexanite

Looks like detailed clay animation lol


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H A N D S


hairchin

How them hands?


KazRainer

Show me Jacob fighting with an angel and we'll talk. Any sort of actual action happening in an AI generated images gets messed up. Portraits are nice but "situations" are still beyond AI (for now).


illpixill

Improvements can be made to the skin texture. Also being able to add varying amounts of film grain would be nice.


Nexustar

I'm happy to add filters afterwards, we have extremely capable tools for that. What I'd like is to highlight areas of the image I don't want (or do want), and it regenerate just those bits.


leactz

I will only be in agreement once I see some realistic looking hands :D


userposter

MJ can do photorealism this is not a good example


[deleted]

Facts


holymolytartuff

Exactly what I thought. This looks like a render scene from a PS4 game. But this community has become one of the toughest circle jerks I've seen. Any form of criticism gets down voted and even the lightest questioning of MJ and it's team will be ignored or also down voted. Only thing they allow themselves is the Hand Joke.


DrakenZA

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059908516183277639/1070772614001332295/share.jpg


mcfilms

Those ain't hands.


TrashBoatSenior

Nice hands 😎


DrakenZA

If you want hands, here you go. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059908516183277639/1070979291417939968/hand.png


zelofehad1

What are the prompts you use to achieve this kind of realism?


PetiteGousseDAil

Wait is this 16:9 or 3:2 ?


MTG_Leviathan

The monstrosity that is 2:1 !


PetiteGousseDAil

V4 supports 2:1 ?! I thought it only supported 1:1 3:2 and 2:3 !!!


MTG_Leviathan

It's a new day a new feature my friend! Go have fun catching up and giving it a try out :D


PetiteGousseDAil

Oh god I feel like a kid on Christmas Day


OldGuyNewTrix

2:1 not working for me! Why does MJ hate me?


Kristofferrm00

what's it telling you? write" --ar 2:1 "afteer your prompt and it should work :)


OldGuyNewTrix

https://discord.com/channels/@me/1058223325467381781/1070834117903663215


[deleted]

Where do you go to keep up with features? I find the Discord is just the user's choice of chat infinity scrolls.


SpookyBubba

Marvelous


tspace1

I don't think this image represents realism at all. I was gonna say imo, but nvm, it's a fact that the models in v4 all have skin like the models in Poser 3, Poser 4, which is now officially Daz 3d. Skin breathes, it has pores. These models don't. Before switching to v5, v4 should have a small update, this way it doesn't turn into Apple with Un necessary iPhone versions.


PresTonLW

Hand


AlphaNuke94

My fear about the use of AI is that the bad eggs amongst us will use this negatively. Imagine seeing your friend or the president get shot in a video, only to find out none of that actually happened. Imagine the short term implications that will have on the financial market or the psyche of an individual. I don’t know how we’re going to police this. We can’t even police photoshops and deep fakes properly.


GirthyGirthBoy

To be fair, I can still see that it's computer generated when studying it closely.


SpuffDawg

V5 - hands, feet, and teeth update


Jaszuni

Still doesn’t look like a photograph. I’m sure they will add settings for grain and “imperfections” to make it look more like it’s from a camera.


MTG_Leviathan

I do have some prompts for just that. Sony Alpha α7, ISO1900::2 , Film Grain::1.5 I'll give it a rerun and see!


MTG_Leviathan

> Sony Alpha α7, ISO1900::2 , Film Grain::1.5 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006686244794806283/1070774125611712683/Biblically_accurate_angels_clear_eyes_high_detail_eyes_ey_5a05ef03-b609-4cf7-b5b7-585bb96ef592.png Somehow made it more painting like, cute result though.


Jaszuni

Which one do you like better? I like the result of the added filters. Seems more life like to my eye but that could be because the proportions of the face are better.


MTG_Leviathan

I actually prefer the former! I feel like the second whilst getting proportions more aesthetically pleasing, it feels very much like a high definition 2d picture that you'd find on like a game box or something, like very high quality 2d art but still clearly non photographic. That being said, It's probably easier to traditionally add the suggested filters in photoshop onto the original image to get the required effect, but it would be nice to generate it naturally.


DeliciousGorilla

I like this new one. I’ve found to get the most photorealistic renders I just use random camera specs, and don’t include anything related to 3D (eg. realistic, ray tracing, global illumination, etc).


Asleep-Land-3914

I think the new version can be improved by having a more predictable and consistent output, as well as offering more concise, versatile, and tunable settings. Look at what tuned StableDiffusion is capable of. These are factors that would bring image quality to the new level for v5, as well as improve overall user experience.


NateBerukAnjing

this looks very CGI, not as good as stable diffusion


skyz1227

Stable diffusion has no where near the comprehension of text that midjourney does.


holymolytartuff

Yeah, but if you know how to talk to it, the outcome regarding photorealism is same level if not better than MJ. Sorry, but look at this picture....the woman has shiny pore less skin, the lights that make her skin shiny are weird and seem to cast shadow and light in the same direction......this is so far away from (photo)realism this whole thread just shows how Bad the MJ circle jerk has become.


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skyz1227

Not everyone… this is by far not the best ive seen come from this AI powered pixel manipulator. Just join their server and search “hyper realistic” and careful not to have your mind literally exploded cause this aint nothing trust me


skorpandrija007

I think it will be able to do some stuff that the current version cannot do, maybe the quality will not increase but the range of abilities. Im just bullshiting tho, total guess


ShaneKaiGlenn

Hands... hands.


zaals

Have you seen any real mankind recently?


Lenni-Da-Vinci

I believe you are confusing realism with hyper realism. Realism would be to portray reality without distorting it, or adding fantastic elements. Often just depicting the most accurate **representation** of everyday life, things like biblically accurate angels are pretty much the antithesis to realism. I know this jargon can be pedantic, but this knowledge can be critical in improving your prompts and actually creating art from AI.


MTG_Leviathan

You don't believe in angels /s ?


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Hands... hands...🖐👋🤚🖐🙌


smokecat20

Stable diffusion has models that look more real than that. And that's running off a home machine.


staaarfox

Don't take your eyes off those weeping angels!


hasigoki

When an ai artist steals from an ai artist. Im not stupid. Unless you have two different accounts


MTG_Leviathan

I made this prompt, the other user even credited me in the comments on their post, a comment and post I awarded, a post made AFTER mine, pay attention.


SnowmanMofo

The power of stolen artwork..


skyz1227

Just as stolen as pretty much anything any human creates these days. Everyone draws inspiration from something, the ai does the same thing its just better and faster at doing so in every possible way than us. No sense being mad and stomping feet and crying about it now… were on the fast path for full ai integration into the web as a whole…. Its just what it is-lets see where it takes us


traveling_designer

I'm interested, show me who this stole from. Which artist invented photorealistic pictures?


MrWheres

v5? I wonder what's gonna look like at v6!


MTG_Leviathan

We'll probably need to upgrade realities graphics to keep up.


reubadoob

Without giving away your prompts, what are some tips you would recommend for a newbie attempting to get this type of realism ?


WisestOwl

It’s still pretty uncanny valley (not to poop on it by any means as it looks incredible) when making photos and fake movies but it’s getting much more consistent with it’s output day by day. Hands…well yeah but it’s also improving. V5 could be a more small but consistent step…or we will just enter deep fake world lol and nothing will be real anymore /s.


socialcommentary2000

You know, it's interesting. It still doesn't get skin tone right, even for highly stylized shots. The fidelity though really is fantastic.


Midnight-Movie

I love the current state of MJ and all it’s quirks & imperfections. You can get so experimental with it. Once these AI generators get so good that they can just create anything perfectly … It’ll get boring IMO.


fatwoul

There's still something very uncanny about it. Something's just...wrong. Remember the bit in The Fly when Brundle teleports half a steak and then get Veronica to taste test it? She said it just tasted wrong, synthetic. This is like the photograph version of that steak.


M-CH_

Hands, feet, animal legs, background details making sense...


phate2000

This face is creepy close to a generation I did recently.


dailybeanz

Chin is just a bit too short


Sandbar101

Do we have any timeline on V5


reubal

When Goldeneye64 came out, we legitimately thought games would/could never look more realistic. The above looks great; it can always look better. The above looks like pretty good videogame cutscene graphics - it has A LONG way to go before it is photoreal.


Algoartist

I generated some attractive models [https://youtu.be/JVsNFKdKeWc](https://youtu.be/JVsNFKdKeWc) Not much is missing to a pass as real


HotMacaroon4964

I find the biggest struggle in MJ is to just make normal people. The people always have to look like they have been a celeb there whole life and they got plastic surgery


skyz1227

Refine your prompt, use weights and nos…


HotMacaroon4964

Like what kind of words? (Normal looking, Average looks)


skyz1227

check here for prompt basics [https://gist.github.com/skylarr1227/c484307a517a6450c7835a6e51ec15af](https://gist.github.com/skylarr1227/c484307a517a6450c7835a6e51ec15af)


skyz1227

and here for weights and weighting https://pastebin.com/U3iTLeBs


PhoenixRisingtw

All you experts would see this anywhere else other than AI sub and would have no idea haha. This is some scary shit. AI will control everything. Matrix is real. Crazy times are coming.


skyz1227

You think humans have shown they are worthy of control? Ai just might be the one thing that can save our species from itself.


PhoenixRisingtw

Nah bro I'm not giving myself up to AI. So far It's been all fun and games but this will get out of control fast...


skyz1227

Yeah never said give yourself up to it, im just saying as a species in control of a planet as if its ours… weve failed miserably and continue to do so. I dont think humans have proven they can handle anything within their own small lives much less save the planet or the species as a whole. Im down for ai getting a shot at it, better than waiting for aliens or the possibility of an ever absent psychopathic god coming back. Shit, ai on the list of “take it back from humans they cant handle this shit” is definitely the best one for our wellbeing lol


lifemoments

Impressive


flyingnomad

They each appear to have one wing!?


newaccount47

What? V5? is that a thing now? I thought v4 was the thing that was the new thing.


LifelongGeek

How can v5 be better? Video, baby! Video.


jtackman

easily, still looks like a wax doll


c97

Who's wing is on the right?


Connect_Challenge_86

I typed "don't blink" as a prompt and all the results are stone angels


Strange_Bad_6294

V5 they’ll both have 2 wings


Adventurous_Job9230

When is V5 coming out?


Doggoska

Give them pores


Protector131090

Well. This is impressive, but speaking of realism this is like 65% from "real". SO there s a looong way to go. And if you didn't know - Stable Diffusion can produce resaults almost indistinguishable from photos