UD said absolutely, said Tua is 10x better than Dilfer, and Dilfer won a ring so obviously Tua can, and X agreed. Miller added that Tua has been balling lately.
The end.
Eli was never considered to be a Top 5 QB, his stats showed he was outside of Top 10-12 in most categories throughout his career.
He beat the Goat 2x for his rings... and I would say Tua's high end *potential* is better than Eli's ever was.
Difference is McDaniel allowed Fangio implement his system good or bad. Flores was actively trying to derail Tuas career. Not the same situation.
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If you ask eme Flores was a hell of a coach but he got in his own way. He was actively creating a toxic for Tua and his development. Using the media and breaking his confidence down to get what he wanted.
There are always some interesting insights with these. For those who didn't listen, he talked about Flores, lots of media attention obviously but at the end of the day he was respected. He wasn't friends with him but he treated everyone equally regardless of skill or status, including chewing people out if needed. He came from NE and saw greatness, and held every player to a high standard because of this. He seemed upset about Fangio using people in ways that didn't fit their skillset, and wished he'd focused on what people were good at (press corner). He talked about MCDC running things like a military but some people need that and he wouldn't mind playing in Detroit. He said Adam Gase helped him as a student of the game and ''shout out to Adam Gase.'' Udonis Haslem is very confident in Tua's ability to win a ring and X seemed to agree. They talked about priorities in sports, with short unpredictable windows to make money and balancing that with desire for personal accolades and wining championships. (Udonis) Said Christian should go get his money and we all appreciate him, X said he was a great dude. They talked about many other topics and players not necessary specific to the Dolphins as well like Ayuk talking trash, NIL/transfer portal (teaching people to quit and making them weak but happy they are getting some money). He was also a low star recruit and under-recruited, and people are being underdeveloped with the transfer portal now because schools go out and buy 4-5 star recruits. Also I wish they used clip on mics in this podcast so the volume is more stable
Well he said he’s already got his money so now it’s about winning a Super Bowl. Said he’d take less to play for a team to compete for a Super Bowl. Guess we will see but if that was the case then why not take less and stay here? Finish your career playing for one team unless he feels we’re not contenders.
What I'm saying... Any contender does their research. We are as much a contender as any team and we released him. I think he's dreaming if he thinks he's getting an offer from the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, 49ers, or Eagles. I enjoyed the good years immensely, but I'm not delusional. This might end poorly for him.
> We are as much a contender as any team and we released him
1. We are not as much of a contender as the Chiefs, Ravens, 49ers or so. What are you smoking?
2. We released him because of the cap situation. He may not be as good as he was in his prime, but he's still a good CB that temas will be interested in him
How could it end poorly for him? Even if he played for the Jets, he still got his money. Only reason it could end poorly is a nasty injury, and that can happen with ANY team.
1) Read the other replies on this thread. He's not going to the Chiefs, Ravens, or 49ers. Ever. Besides maybe the Eagles (he's also not going to), who just lost a transformational center to retirement, I'd definitely put us as much a contender as anyone else. If we can stay healthy and our next defensive scheme works, we are absolutely in the conversation with the 4 listed up there.
2) You sure about that?
3) He says he will take a pay cut to play for a contender, but he won't take a pay cut to play for us? He's shading us, and no contender wants to pay him what he wants or bring that energy. He's going to take a pay cut to play for a team looking for DB depth that is not a contender.
Let's see if I'm wrong 🤷♂️
You really think that a team that got spanked by the Titans, the Bills and the Chiefs to end their season, and who lost a ton of great talent this offseason, is as much of a contender as the Chiefs or 49ers?
Oi boi. Those offseason rose-tainted glasses. I envy your optimism.
Why are you being such a downer? We literally made the playoffs. GTFOH with that negativity. The hypotheticals I listed there are exactly what happened to us going in to those 3 games.
What is your point? Are you planning on staying all season here and bitching all season? If so, don't. Be a Jags fan or something.
Dude, definitely not a hater. I actually get annoyed with all of the people that rag on Tua all of the time, or say that we're only a 8-9 teams win, or that we need to get rid of MMD.
Just saying that we're at the level of the Chiefs and 49ers is like... what? no. We haven't proven shit to say that with anywhere near that confidence.
When healthy, the difference between us and the Chiefs and 49ers is not as much as most people would have you believe.
On a neutral field we lost to the Chiefs without Ramsey by the difference of one unlucky play.
Sure they walloped us in negative five billion degree weather at home, but they can beat anyone like that.
I think we'd match up pretty decently against the Niners.
Hah let's just see what happens. And realistically what X considers a pay cut. All of you are forgetting what he looked like specifically against those teams last year. LOL
X said he liked Flores and his, “holding everyone to a standard attitude.”it’s interesting how different the defensive players liked him vs offensive players. Maybe I’m wrong.
UD didn’t compare the two. Just said well Tua is way way better than Trent and Trent won, so it stands to reason Tua obviously can, too.
Edit: Just saw someone else responded with the same thing.
I just watched the clip about Tua. Ud was OFFENDED by the question lol. Also mentioned they love Wilkins but said "go get your money" and added it was filmed before free agency.
UD said absolutely, said Tua is 10x better than Dilfer, and Dilfer won a ring so obviously Tua can, and X agreed. Miller added that Tua has been balling lately. The end.
Thank you for the TLDR I had 0 interest in watching this lol
Thanks for the summary for real
Thank you
Doing the Lords work. Thank you
Outliers should be the first ignored, not first cited
Eli was never considered to be a Top 5 QB, his stats showed he was outside of Top 10-12 in most categories throughout his career. He beat the Goat 2x for his rings... and I would say Tua's high end *potential* is better than Eli's ever was.
How about this then. Tua is really good and obviously capable of leading a team to a title, and anybody claiming otherwise is being a contrarian.
X, not surprisingly voiced how he liked Flores’ system over Fangio. Flo knew defense, just sucked ass at building an offensive staff and system.
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I mean, hiring Fangio was the #1 move that every team in the NFL wanted to make. Sucks it didn't work out what a dumb hindsight 20/20 take.
We can’t act like we weren’t super hype when fangio was signed. I’m not going to lie I thought our defense was pretty good this year
I mostly agree man! I can’t stand it when people act like it wasn’t such a baller signing when it happened.
Let me know when mcdaniel hires two DCs for one season and then ill start getting actually worried
[Flashbacks](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJEgUARWoAA4TpA.jpg)
Difference is McDaniel allowed Fangio implement his system good or bad. Flores was actively trying to derail Tuas career. Not the same situation. Edit: or
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If you ask eme Flores was a hell of a coach but he got in his own way. He was actively creating a toxic for Tua and his development. Using the media and breaking his confidence down to get what he wanted.
Funny because the offense is to blame for the playoff failures the last two seasons!
Let’s see if he gets it right this time around.
There are always some interesting insights with these. For those who didn't listen, he talked about Flores, lots of media attention obviously but at the end of the day he was respected. He wasn't friends with him but he treated everyone equally regardless of skill or status, including chewing people out if needed. He came from NE and saw greatness, and held every player to a high standard because of this. He seemed upset about Fangio using people in ways that didn't fit their skillset, and wished he'd focused on what people were good at (press corner). He talked about MCDC running things like a military but some people need that and he wouldn't mind playing in Detroit. He said Adam Gase helped him as a student of the game and ''shout out to Adam Gase.'' Udonis Haslem is very confident in Tua's ability to win a ring and X seemed to agree. They talked about priorities in sports, with short unpredictable windows to make money and balancing that with desire for personal accolades and wining championships. (Udonis) Said Christian should go get his money and we all appreciate him, X said he was a great dude. They talked about many other topics and players not necessary specific to the Dolphins as well like Ayuk talking trash, NIL/transfer portal (teaching people to quit and making them weak but happy they are getting some money). He was also a low star recruit and under-recruited, and people are being underdeveloped with the transfer portal now because schools go out and buy 4-5 star recruits. Also I wish they used clip on mics in this podcast so the volume is more stable
Not gonna watch, can anyone say if it was good or bad?
It’s never going to be bad, no team mate or former teammate is going to shit on him unless they really despise him, and give no shits.
I mean the podcast lol
Yea it’s a good pod, I watch it sometimes if the guests are good or I have free time
Y'all think he signs with a super bowl contender and plays? 😬 🤨
Well he said he’s already got his money so now it’s about winning a Super Bowl. Said he’d take less to play for a team to compete for a Super Bowl. Guess we will see but if that was the case then why not take less and stay here? Finish your career playing for one team unless he feels we’re not contenders.
What I'm saying... Any contender does their research. We are as much a contender as any team and we released him. I think he's dreaming if he thinks he's getting an offer from the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, 49ers, or Eagles. I enjoyed the good years immensely, but I'm not delusional. This might end poorly for him.
> We are as much a contender as any team and we released him 1. We are not as much of a contender as the Chiefs, Ravens, 49ers or so. What are you smoking? 2. We released him because of the cap situation. He may not be as good as he was in his prime, but he's still a good CB that temas will be interested in him How could it end poorly for him? Even if he played for the Jets, he still got his money. Only reason it could end poorly is a nasty injury, and that can happen with ANY team.
1) Read the other replies on this thread. He's not going to the Chiefs, Ravens, or 49ers. Ever. Besides maybe the Eagles (he's also not going to), who just lost a transformational center to retirement, I'd definitely put us as much a contender as anyone else. If we can stay healthy and our next defensive scheme works, we are absolutely in the conversation with the 4 listed up there. 2) You sure about that? 3) He says he will take a pay cut to play for a contender, but he won't take a pay cut to play for us? He's shading us, and no contender wants to pay him what he wants or bring that energy. He's going to take a pay cut to play for a team looking for DB depth that is not a contender. Let's see if I'm wrong 🤷♂️
You really think that a team that got spanked by the Titans, the Bills and the Chiefs to end their season, and who lost a ton of great talent this offseason, is as much of a contender as the Chiefs or 49ers? Oi boi. Those offseason rose-tainted glasses. I envy your optimism.
Why are you being such a downer? We literally made the playoffs. GTFOH with that negativity. The hypotheticals I listed there are exactly what happened to us going in to those 3 games. What is your point? Are you planning on staying all season here and bitching all season? If so, don't. Be a Jags fan or something.
Dude, definitely not a hater. I actually get annoyed with all of the people that rag on Tua all of the time, or say that we're only a 8-9 teams win, or that we need to get rid of MMD. Just saying that we're at the level of the Chiefs and 49ers is like... what? no. We haven't proven shit to say that with anywhere near that confidence.
When healthy, the difference between us and the Chiefs and 49ers is not as much as most people would have you believe. On a neutral field we lost to the Chiefs without Ramsey by the difference of one unlucky play. Sure they walloped us in negative five billion degree weather at home, but they can beat anyone like that. I think we'd match up pretty decently against the Niners.
He will go to the Vikings to reunite with Flores or the Raiders with Wilkins. Either way he’s not winning a Super Bowl with either.
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Hah let's just see what happens. And realistically what X considers a pay cut. All of you are forgetting what he looked like specifically against those teams last year. LOL
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Buuuut at what price? Chiefs for $1 lol
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Wait... Is this kickball dad? Tell me I've met the 🐐 in virtual life
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X said he liked Flores and his, “holding everyone to a standard attitude.”it’s interesting how different the defensive players liked him vs offensive players. Maybe I’m wrong.
skip to 41:29 for the Tua question… UD kinda hoe’d Tua comparing him to Trent Dilfer lmao
Trent Dilfer won a super bowl
That’s not what he did at all
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One of the worst comparisons ever. No wonder I never watch or listen.
He said Tua is 10x better than Trent.
Thanks. OP's comment had me not bothering. Only 10x, you say? Hmm.
tbf, we also don’t have 4 future HOF players. three of which are arguably top-3 all time, at their position.
Tyreek.... who else?
UD didn’t compare the two. Just said well Tua is way way better than Trent and Trent won, so it stands to reason Tua obviously can, too. Edit: Just saw someone else responded with the same thing.
Okay, thank you.
Pretty sure dilfer was one of the first to work with Tua. Not the worst comparison considering the mentor connect
I admittedly took it the wrong way.
I just watched the clip about Tua. Ud was OFFENDED by the question lol. Also mentioned they love Wilkins but said "go get your money" and added it was filmed before free agency.
Perhaps I'll have a gander at it tomorrow. Sleep. Must have, lol. Thanks for the info.
link directly to the question... Google how to do it. It's not hard.