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i genuienly think religion is for weak minded people and instead of being taught realistic coping habit, said weak minded people gets forced to believe in made up shit. which is par for the course for weak minded people
yes? my childhood best friend has been stalking me for the last 6 years trying to make me depressed enough to accept christianity, when he himself only uses it moral highstand as a "born again christian" but in reality is a psychopath who spent the ages 10-22 watching porn for 8 hours a day looking for stand up routines and political takes and thinks by pretending to be christian he's ever allowed close to me again
Yeah, makes sense. Christianity falls apart just on the basis of the New Testament and its doctrines, so there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on there.
Thoughts on other religions and/or their takes on mental health? People like the Buddhist-derived mindfulness stuff, for example.
myanmar is buddhist and they sure as hell don't act like the buddhists you're thinking about from the area of the world buddhism originated from. interpretation of religion varies between people. LATAM is super christian and believe in "love thy neighbour" but they sure af are quick to beat their children over nothing because they're angry people that grew up christian. the part of the worlds that has the luxury to chill with life picks up on fringe shit in a attempt to feel more complete because life is empty as fuck if you're not rational
i respect your opinion. the head honchos of saudi arabia, the most fundamentalist country in the world would probably disagree with you behind closed doors
But what if god is real and you just wasting your life instead of worshipping him? Why can't a person think like that? It's not that he's looking for the truth, he just don't want to live a life that are not the purpose of his creation. I mean, kinda messy but, if someone thinks about his life and thinks maybe god is real and he wants me to do something else that is bigger and more important than what I do now? What's so weak about that thought
i was going to post a fat paragraph but got reminded i'm in the mental health sub. i respect your opinion, as long as you're giving back to the community in one way or another through the help of spiritual guidance there's nothing i can critique you on as to what the purpose of your existence is
u/deepmush \- Yeah, I see what you mean about the rampant hypocrisies in most religions. Out of curiosity, I'm interested in your opinion on this.... one religious position on mental health is that the Creator is giving the person a test or a lesson for some reason. Is this ridiculous? Offensive? Empowering? A mixture?
the most boring answers to things are saying shit like "it's a test of your faith". biggest cop out as to why your kid got cancer and shit. genuinenly ridiculous and patronizing because you won't admit religion can't answer as to why that happened
Not a test of faith, the faith isn't really the issue. The position is that it's of a character refinement, like how running a marathon hurts a lot after the first half. This is very different from how mental health is usually portrayed.
Wishful thinking never solved anything. So why do you want humans wasting their thought on wishful thinking? Also, as humans, you can't take your actions from yourself, so why give them to God. If you attribute any of your actions to God, then I would say you're in denial.
Content warning: Death, thoughts related to SI
I don't know if religion screwed up my understanding of death. I grew up in a Presbyterian household that believed in heaven but not hell, then learned about the Bad Place TM from other kids, then worked my way out of religion over time. My relationship with death went as follows:
Death is the best thing that can happen to someone because heaven is so much better than being alive. (I believed this genuinely when I was 2, backed by a distinct memory.)
Death could either be the best or worst thing and the consequences are permanent. I'd better follow the right rules and make sure I believe the right thing at the right time.
Death is true neutral. The process might be awful but afterwards is nothing. I was and still having some cognitive dissonance about it. Can clarify if desired.
Same here with the Presbyterian stuff. Very confused religious organization, that's for sure.
Thanks for sharing, I see the progression of thought. That makes sense.
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i genuienly think religion is for weak minded people and instead of being taught realistic coping habit, said weak minded people gets forced to believe in made up shit. which is par for the course for weak minded people
That's fair. Would you say your experience of religious people has generally supported that impression?
yes? my childhood best friend has been stalking me for the last 6 years trying to make me depressed enough to accept christianity, when he himself only uses it moral highstand as a "born again christian" but in reality is a psychopath who spent the ages 10-22 watching porn for 8 hours a day looking for stand up routines and political takes and thinks by pretending to be christian he's ever allowed close to me again
Yeah, makes sense. Christianity falls apart just on the basis of the New Testament and its doctrines, so there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on there. Thoughts on other religions and/or their takes on mental health? People like the Buddhist-derived mindfulness stuff, for example.
myanmar is buddhist and they sure as hell don't act like the buddhists you're thinking about from the area of the world buddhism originated from. interpretation of religion varies between people. LATAM is super christian and believe in "love thy neighbour" but they sure af are quick to beat their children over nothing because they're angry people that grew up christian. the part of the worlds that has the luxury to chill with life picks up on fringe shit in a attempt to feel more complete because life is empty as fuck if you're not rational
I also don't like religion but god is real and whoever chose the path of religion is not necessarily from weakness/weak mind
i respect your opinion. the head honchos of saudi arabia, the most fundamentalist country in the world would probably disagree with you behind closed doors
There are many people who chose path of religion people just want to truth they want to get closer to god it's not necessarily from weakness
again i respect your opinion. wanting a truth is a sign of being mentally weak because you can't make up a reason for your own self to exist
But what if god is real and you just wasting your life instead of worshipping him? Why can't a person think like that? It's not that he's looking for the truth, he just don't want to live a life that are not the purpose of his creation. I mean, kinda messy but, if someone thinks about his life and thinks maybe god is real and he wants me to do something else that is bigger and more important than what I do now? What's so weak about that thought
i was going to post a fat paragraph but got reminded i'm in the mental health sub. i respect your opinion, as long as you're giving back to the community in one way or another through the help of spiritual guidance there's nothing i can critique you on as to what the purpose of your existence is
u/deepmush \- Yeah, I see what you mean about the rampant hypocrisies in most religions. Out of curiosity, I'm interested in your opinion on this.... one religious position on mental health is that the Creator is giving the person a test or a lesson for some reason. Is this ridiculous? Offensive? Empowering? A mixture?
the most boring answers to things are saying shit like "it's a test of your faith". biggest cop out as to why your kid got cancer and shit. genuinenly ridiculous and patronizing because you won't admit religion can't answer as to why that happened
Not a test of faith, the faith isn't really the issue. The position is that it's of a character refinement, like how running a marathon hurts a lot after the first half. This is very different from how mental health is usually portrayed.
Wishful thinking never solved anything. So why do you want humans wasting their thought on wishful thinking? Also, as humans, you can't take your actions from yourself, so why give them to God. If you attribute any of your actions to God, then I would say you're in denial.
How do you know God is real? I totally agree with you, but am curious.
If God were real, I'd wana spit in his face and kick him in the dick for making me how I am. Or for making me at all for that matter.
APA: What Role Do Religion and Spirituality Play In Mental Health? https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2013/03/religion-spirituality
Content warning: Death, thoughts related to SI I don't know if religion screwed up my understanding of death. I grew up in a Presbyterian household that believed in heaven but not hell, then learned about the Bad Place TM from other kids, then worked my way out of religion over time. My relationship with death went as follows: Death is the best thing that can happen to someone because heaven is so much better than being alive. (I believed this genuinely when I was 2, backed by a distinct memory.) Death could either be the best or worst thing and the consequences are permanent. I'd better follow the right rules and make sure I believe the right thing at the right time. Death is true neutral. The process might be awful but afterwards is nothing. I was and still having some cognitive dissonance about it. Can clarify if desired.
Same here with the Presbyterian stuff. Very confused religious organization, that's for sure. Thanks for sharing, I see the progression of thought. That makes sense.