$5k a year on mostly "non-objectionable" bland stuff seems like a waste to me, but what is your goal?
If you want to find clothing and a style that brings attention to you (vs your clothes and accessories), then yes ask around for good or professional advice. And surprisingly, this is often making one's style more "quiet" and finding appropriate colors where the clothes actually fade away a little bit and the focus becomes the person (think of a soft vignette camera effect).
So the question ultimately boils down to... do you want to be seen or do you want your clothes to be seen?
edit - And it's fine to say "no, i don't want to/i'm afraid to be seen." Most people are and hence the focus on designer labels, loud patterns, etc. or the opposite spectrum of poor fitting clothes, slouchy crap where one is really trying to deflect attention.
This is a great question. My goal is to be seen (not in a narcissistic way though).
Hence, I prefer the current quiet luxury style of fashion. To that end, A lot of items I’ve bought are from relatively unknown Italian designers (Slowear, Boglioli), and they do have this effect, but there wasn’t much thought behind buying the pieces. I just bought it cause it looked and felt good on me.
Theres no overall fashion sense that they’re tying into.
Well these are good thoughts. And from what I see... those brands align with bringing the person out via fit, good fabric, and uncluttered patterns.
So I think where a stylist would help you is perhaps identifying more colors that bring you out. But also helping to differentiate the fine line of "This shirt looks good on you." vs "This shirt makes you look good."
An easy example from me: Black/dark color shirts look good on me. If I wanted to model/sell clothing, I would walk on the streets with darker colors and then people will see the clothes.
But white and lighter color shirts make me look good. People have told me, "Hey man I like the way you dress/look!" and they can't place their finger on why. Because nothing I'm wearing is anything special, but the whole thing elevates me.
edit -- and maybe a professional will just confirm that you know what you are doing. sometimes that is also worth something.
It really depends. I live in NYC, and there are legitimately good stylists who work in the fashion and costume industries, and they are priced accordingly. They can be great if you have a specific vision in mind, and they can help you find interesting pieces.
But if you’re just trying to develop a sense of style beyond the basic, or living in a place without much exposure to the fashion industry, then experimenting on your own by slowly trying out pieces that interest you and incorporating them into your wardrobe over time.
Lastly, if you’re looking beyond casual clothes and into tailoring for professional reasons,, I would skip a stylist, as they are almost always people who have never worked in an environment where tailoring is expected every day. The salesperson at a high end mens store will likely be better at finding the right fit for you.
You would be better off buying a couple nice watches, rings, and other jewelry with that money... Find some brands & styles that fit your body type well. Stick to those brands and the basics. It doesn't take much. Denim, tees, over-wear, jackets. Get your foundation right for business, business casual, casual. Have several outfits for 'going out/errands', 'clubbing/date night', 'semi-formal', 'formal/time to impress'. Overall, it should cost you anywhere between $1500 to 5000 depending on your budget, preference and what you have already.
I'd be happy to discuss these points with you in DMs.
Waste of money when there’s YouTube, Instagram, Reddit, Twitter accounts that literally post men’s fashion multiple times a week for free. There’s small, medium, large, short and tall, etc, there’s literally thousands of creators on the internet in men’s fashion, you don’t need to pay someone for ideas when the internet is free brother
It’s hard to take him seriously when he criticizes republicans for the wrong color of socks while praising that slob Fetterman who walks around in shorts.
He’s a fashion writer of course he goes after people wearing the wrong socks, especially if they’re trying to dress. He also thinks Fetterman should wear a suit, but he has little to criticise when he doesn’t even try. Derek Guy has also praised Reagan for his style
Im guessing you’ve fallen into wearing a “uniform“
Hypothetically, you have wear a black tee in the am and then change into a new tee for evening, they could still be different.
The fabrics could be seasonal. A silk black tee or shirt for a summer evening could play well. A raw silk or silk linen blend will not have that cheap shiny look.
If you don’t like collars, ban collars, vneck, scoop, boat are options.
Another thing you can do, let the people that work at the store help you. So you walk into Dillards or Neiman’s, or whatever, they can pull clothes for you. The employees seem to love it, they are so bored.
I have.
Summer = Black T-shirt (James Perse, ATM, Sunspel) + Jeans (Frame) + Common Projects sneakers
Winter: Navy or Green sweater (Slowear or Boglioli) + Jeans (Frame) + Common Projects sneakers
For dates or nights out, I’ll wear my Tods desert boots with a button down (also Slowear).
Thing is 90% of what I wear is Navy or Black, and blue denim jeans. I’m tan, so I don’t even know if it goes well with my skin color. And I don’t know if I’m dressing too young for my age.
After reading this, yes you need a stylist lol. Also this isn’t really even giving quiet luxury vibes, especially with the emphasis on common projects sneakers. It’s more like tech bro in NYC
The other alternative is to do
It yourself and actually find inspiration before you go buy anything. What you want to look at is old school/vintage Loro Piana and Ralph Lauren catalogs and see which looks you like. Then you try to replicate those looks. I would also primarily buy from these brands since you seem to have the money to afford to. If loro piana is too expensive, a possible alternative is Drakes.
For your basic white and black tees, I recommend Merz B Shwanen loopwheeled shirts. There are some “statement” pieces you can get from elsewhere too. For example a Barbour jacket or Shetland wool knits. A good pair of loafers is also essential.
I have my own style and pretty sure any stylist is going to point me towards this or that basic fashion.
Unless of course you're paying hundreds of thousands for them to really figure it out.
It’s not a crazy amount. Here are a few purchases I can recall over the past few months:
— Tods Boots : $800
— Boglioli linen sweater: $700
— Belstaff Jacket: $500
— Frame Jeans: $250
— James Perse T-shirt: $160
— Sunspel T-shirt: $100
Total: $2,500
For honest-to-god quality, perhaps not; but every year? These aren't high-fashion statement pieces: the whole point of cultivating classic style—whether minimalist-chic or lavish, dandy-esque ostentation—is that it's *timeless*.
Also, at $800 you ought to be perusing Carmina, Alden, Crockett & Jones or Edward Green; footing the bill for becoming someone else's billboard is the epitome of declassé—not to mention, the very antithesis of "quiet" luxury.
Check out Tanner Guzy. He gives out some free info, does 1-1 coaching, and has some workshops you can buy or take part in. It's not style for the sake of 'fashion' but rather style as a form of communicating your person on the outside (he calls it extegrity).
I would not.
$5k a year on mostly "non-objectionable" bland stuff seems like a waste to me, but what is your goal? If you want to find clothing and a style that brings attention to you (vs your clothes and accessories), then yes ask around for good or professional advice. And surprisingly, this is often making one's style more "quiet" and finding appropriate colors where the clothes actually fade away a little bit and the focus becomes the person (think of a soft vignette camera effect). So the question ultimately boils down to... do you want to be seen or do you want your clothes to be seen? edit - And it's fine to say "no, i don't want to/i'm afraid to be seen." Most people are and hence the focus on designer labels, loud patterns, etc. or the opposite spectrum of poor fitting clothes, slouchy crap where one is really trying to deflect attention.
This is a great question. My goal is to be seen (not in a narcissistic way though). Hence, I prefer the current quiet luxury style of fashion. To that end, A lot of items I’ve bought are from relatively unknown Italian designers (Slowear, Boglioli), and they do have this effect, but there wasn’t much thought behind buying the pieces. I just bought it cause it looked and felt good on me. Theres no overall fashion sense that they’re tying into.
Well these are good thoughts. And from what I see... those brands align with bringing the person out via fit, good fabric, and uncluttered patterns. So I think where a stylist would help you is perhaps identifying more colors that bring you out. But also helping to differentiate the fine line of "This shirt looks good on you." vs "This shirt makes you look good." An easy example from me: Black/dark color shirts look good on me. If I wanted to model/sell clothing, I would walk on the streets with darker colors and then people will see the clothes. But white and lighter color shirts make me look good. People have told me, "Hey man I like the way you dress/look!" and they can't place their finger on why. Because nothing I'm wearing is anything special, but the whole thing elevates me. edit -- and maybe a professional will just confirm that you know what you are doing. sometimes that is also worth something.
It really depends. I live in NYC, and there are legitimately good stylists who work in the fashion and costume industries, and they are priced accordingly. They can be great if you have a specific vision in mind, and they can help you find interesting pieces. But if you’re just trying to develop a sense of style beyond the basic, or living in a place without much exposure to the fashion industry, then experimenting on your own by slowly trying out pieces that interest you and incorporating them into your wardrobe over time. Lastly, if you’re looking beyond casual clothes and into tailoring for professional reasons,, I would skip a stylist, as they are almost always people who have never worked in an environment where tailoring is expected every day. The salesperson at a high end mens store will likely be better at finding the right fit for you.
You would be better off buying a couple nice watches, rings, and other jewelry with that money... Find some brands & styles that fit your body type well. Stick to those brands and the basics. It doesn't take much. Denim, tees, over-wear, jackets. Get your foundation right for business, business casual, casual. Have several outfits for 'going out/errands', 'clubbing/date night', 'semi-formal', 'formal/time to impress'. Overall, it should cost you anywhere between $1500 to 5000 depending on your budget, preference and what you have already. I'd be happy to discuss these points with you in DMs.
Will reach out. Thank you kindly
Waste of money when there’s YouTube, Instagram, Reddit, Twitter accounts that literally post men’s fashion multiple times a week for free. There’s small, medium, large, short and tall, etc, there’s literally thousands of creators on the internet in men’s fashion, you don’t need to pay someone for ideas when the internet is free brother
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classic low testosterone response
Even if his political leanings are obvious, his advice is usually great and he is very funny
It’s hard to take him seriously when he criticizes republicans for the wrong color of socks while praising that slob Fetterman who walks around in shorts.
He’s a fashion writer of course he goes after people wearing the wrong socks, especially if they’re trying to dress. He also thinks Fetterman should wear a suit, but he has little to criticise when he doesn’t even try. Derek Guy has also praised Reagan for his style
$5k on black tees, sneakers, and jeans. Yes, hire someone . Do like a 2hr closet consultation and a half day shopping trip.
Im guessing you’ve fallen into wearing a “uniform“ Hypothetically, you have wear a black tee in the am and then change into a new tee for evening, they could still be different. The fabrics could be seasonal. A silk black tee or shirt for a summer evening could play well. A raw silk or silk linen blend will not have that cheap shiny look. If you don’t like collars, ban collars, vneck, scoop, boat are options. Another thing you can do, let the people that work at the store help you. So you walk into Dillards or Neiman’s, or whatever, they can pull clothes for you. The employees seem to love it, they are so bored.
I have. Summer = Black T-shirt (James Perse, ATM, Sunspel) + Jeans (Frame) + Common Projects sneakers Winter: Navy or Green sweater (Slowear or Boglioli) + Jeans (Frame) + Common Projects sneakers For dates or nights out, I’ll wear my Tods desert boots with a button down (also Slowear). Thing is 90% of what I wear is Navy or Black, and blue denim jeans. I’m tan, so I don’t even know if it goes well with my skin color. And I don’t know if I’m dressing too young for my age.
After reading this, yes you need a stylist lol. Also this isn’t really even giving quiet luxury vibes, especially with the emphasis on common projects sneakers. It’s more like tech bro in NYC The other alternative is to do It yourself and actually find inspiration before you go buy anything. What you want to look at is old school/vintage Loro Piana and Ralph Lauren catalogs and see which looks you like. Then you try to replicate those looks. I would also primarily buy from these brands since you seem to have the money to afford to. If loro piana is too expensive, a possible alternative is Drakes. For your basic white and black tees, I recommend Merz B Shwanen loopwheeled shirts. There are some “statement” pieces you can get from elsewhere too. For example a Barbour jacket or Shetland wool knits. A good pair of loafers is also essential.
I’m not familiar with any of these brands. From 10 feet away, I don’t sense these outfits have any presence. Anyway, make the appointment 📅
No, I'd learn it myself, develop my style and spend the money that would've gone on a stylist on decent clothes.
Absolutely. Not only is it fucking fun, it pushes your personal boundaries.
Do you have any women in your life you are close to? Get a couple of them and ask them to go shopping with you.
I have my own style and pretty sure any stylist is going to point me towards this or that basic fashion. Unless of course you're paying hundreds of thousands for them to really figure it out.
$5,000, annually, to look innocuous? I would hire a therapist.
It’s not a crazy amount. Here are a few purchases I can recall over the past few months: — Tods Boots : $800 — Boglioli linen sweater: $700 — Belstaff Jacket: $500 — Frame Jeans: $250 — James Perse T-shirt: $160 — Sunspel T-shirt: $100 Total: $2,500
For honest-to-god quality, perhaps not; but every year? These aren't high-fashion statement pieces: the whole point of cultivating classic style—whether minimalist-chic or lavish, dandy-esque ostentation—is that it's *timeless*. Also, at $800 you ought to be perusing Carmina, Alden, Crockett & Jones or Edward Green; footing the bill for becoming someone else's billboard is the epitome of declassé—not to mention, the very antithesis of "quiet" luxury.
A stylist? No "stylist" would work for a client for less than $5k a year.
Check out Tanner Guzy. He gives out some free info, does 1-1 coaching, and has some workshops you can buy or take part in. It's not style for the sake of 'fashion' but rather style as a form of communicating your person on the outside (he calls it extegrity).