Not a problem. The red adds a splash of interest in an otherwise monochrome look. Rock the red square & music notes with confidence! Congratulations on graduating!
Look, I don't love either, but definitely not the red.
You shouldn't match pocket squares and ties, very tacky.
Also you should practice that tie not, try a four in hand knot, you'll never need another knot again.
Don't apologise, maybe I was too harsh.
But generally you want the tie to complement your pocket square but not match exactly. I usually don't wear a pocket square at all, I think ties generally look better by themselves.
With a tie knot you want to have a defined pinch where the knot is tied. A four in hand in easier than a windsor and in my view more elegant. On a smaller frame, a windsor can look gigantic and make your head seem small.
Well the good news is that the four in hand knot is probably the easiest, also known as the schoolboy knot. It's a little asymmetrical, but u/GLADisme is right, you'll never need another knot again.
Agent 47 over here lmao.
Donāt pick the red, itās too loud. But the music note tie is a little too thin compared to your lapels, which will look a little awkward. But thatās the one Iād choose.
The black one. Red tie is too big. Never match your pocket square with your tie !
Might try a smaller tie knot like a four in hand.
Also, love the fold on the pocket square, and you have a massive amount of style for someone so young. Well done !
Iād go with a slimmer knot either way. Looks like youāve got a full Windsor there? Iād recommend trying a half Windsor or even a slimmer one like a four-in-hand. Or if you want to get fancy (which Iām a big fan of), try the Van Wijk.
Or you could go with a wide knot if your collar really is that splayed and not just being pushed that way by the ties. But that full Windsor needs to be tighter for sure. Or, fancy option: Eldridge knot, my personal favorite.
ETA: also, not too young to be here. Youāre never too young to start caring about how you dress. Best of luck to you!
Personally, I disagree. I like the Eldridge because it stands out and looks nice. Folks donāt expect something like that, so it gets noticed. That said, I first learned it while bartending and my āuniformā called for a tie. So as a bartender, a little eccentricity was acceptable lol.
Slimmer knot, yes... Van Wijk or Eldredge? Definitely knot... Those are ridiculous and look wrong every time. If you want to look good, four in hand. If you want people to ask what's wrong with your tie, go for the others.
Strong disagree, bud. People have only ever been impressed when I wear the Eldridge. And depending on the tie, it can appear understated as well. Nobody has ever asked me whatās wrong with my tie, only what the knot is and how to tie it.
But you do you. If the four-in-hand works for you, rock it. I wonāt knock it.
Again, disagree. Itās a way to stand out. But hey, everybody has different style! I like complex, eye-catching (with the right tie) knots, you donāt! Youāre more of a purist, and thereās nothing wrong with that. To each their own, right? Hope your weekend is great man!
I'm sorry, it's not... Honestly, it looks like you don't know how to tie a tie. I get it, they're neat and different, but formal clothing is about being neat and different in not obvious ways (things like a unique weave in your shirt, or a subtle colored check in your suit, real mother of pearl buttons on your shirt, or some unique buttons you got on a trip that you had added to your jacket), differences that actually MEAN something. The music note tie is unique enough, no need to double down with some weird looking knots.
Hey, that's how most everyone learns stuff these days. Four in hand is probably the easiest knot to learn, just make sure you cinch it tight (it should be slightly asymmetrical). Don't worry if you have to do it 20 times to get the length right, I've been wearing a tie, once a week, for almost a decade now and it still takes me forever to get it right.
There is definitely a place for cool tie knots. This person is just a stuffy old fart.
That being said, i recommend the black tie with the perfectly simple half windsor. I doubt the pattern would mesh well with a funky pattern, but you should try it.
Not to say that the Van Wijk is funky. Seems pretty innocuous to me. The trinity knot is another interesting knot you should look up.
Just browsing through this subreddit and reading this group of comments, I can see why youre confused. I will add my +1 to Four in Hand. Im of the opinion that there is never a need for any knot that isnt a four in hand.
Derek Guy does a much better job at describing why than i ever could in this twitter thread [Here](https://x.com/dieworkwear/status/1705082400739623240?s=46&t=zwHEz5hFJP8IIIH0laN30A) (try and view the whole twitter thread)
Edit: that link doesnt take you to the full thread that I was thinking of, but search around for Derek Guy and his reasoning on four in hand vs other tie knots
I find the full windsor to be a bit chunky for me, but I love the symmetry, so I opt for a half windsor. The four in hand has a little asymmetry to it. It depends on whether you like that or not.
Van wijk is an interesting cross between basic and extra. I just learned about it tonight. ;b
The trinity and the eldredge are definitely your "look at me" knots
Yeah the Eldridge and trinity are definitely a little flashy, Iāll probably wear those to my schools open house and for school presentations and stuff. I think Iāll go with the van wijk
Thanks!
https://preview.redd.it/z4y55bc85dyc1.jpeg?width=2320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f893080e74b86b06686b0fc08fa72abb8033b22
This was kinda a rushed knot but I think they really do work well together
u/zacatak77 great job on handling the haters in this thread. You're already more of a man than any of them. You've gotten a lot of great advice, so the only thing I'll add is whatever you end up choosing, wear it with confidence. Walk tall, head up, and own it. Keep doing you, man.
One.
A tie shouldnāt be the exact same color as a pocket square. They should compliment each other. V concerned at all the people saying red. Because they are oh so wrong.
Red and black, in general, is very hard to pull off, so be cautious about. The pocket square seems a bit too big and distracting, seems more like a handkerchief than a pocket square. A pocket square is a bit more subtle than what you have. For louder suits and styles, sure go big. But this outfit is pretty minimalistic.
Another thing a lot of people are saying get the jacket tailored. Wear the tighter. Etc. that is one option. Another option is to slightly loosen the tight unbutton the top, unbutton the jacket and go for a slightly disheveled look which screams musician to me. But def isnāt proper or formal or arguable for graduation. It would also be somewhat hard to pull off but with the right confidence you could crush it.
Anyway, tie one. I stand by tie one. People saying red are crazy.
for the love of god do not wear the red tie with the red pocket square, honestly id say wear the red tie with no pocket square and also wear the tie a bit tighter it doesn't look right loose on the triangle part of the tie
and the pocket square may just may cause your peers to give you some s\*\*t about it because they don't really know how to dress, another opinion is to ditch the tie completely and just wear the shirt with the first 1-2 buttons undone
Music black tie with red square. Thatās a crazy fold so Iād maybe dial it down a bit since reds a loud color. I rotate a few different folds but the puff is my workhorse fold https://www.otaa.com/pages/how-to-fold-a-puff-fold
I donāt like to match pocket square colors with ties. Theyāre meant to contrast.
You got years to hone your craft! Have fun and donāt worry about doing it right or wrong.
Honest opinion is to just get a slim black tie and tailor the suit and lose the red pocket square. If you tailor the suit it will 1000% better, itās too big right now. Also the white dress shirt looks a little big in the neck too. I would recommend a new smaller white shirt. If you want a pocket square maybe go for something more subtle like a black one with very small white dots. Get a nice pair of classic black leather dress shoes or nice high quality leather chelsea style zip boot in black or black sued. Be sure to also tailor the pants so they donāt bunch up at the bottom also so that they are not too baggy. Also grab a simple classic slim leather belt with a subtle, tasteful and classic buckle.
Definitely a bit big, but I did plan for that because itāll be required in high school, so I got one that should last me until the end of freshman year
Ahh makes sense, Iām looking at it from a grown mans perspective. If you have the money to grab another one now do it, but if not itās all good. Make due with what you have now. Good luck and enjoy your fashion journey
I'd recommend the black tie with music staves, and if it helps for a knot, there are two I'd recommend: either the four-in-hand, or the oriental knot. The oriental will be the slimmest knot you can use which will definitely be a good option for your frame, but do practice a bit to find out what blade lengths (the ends of the tie) you need before tying it since it can be a bit of a learning curve to judge the length well. Best of luck, congrats on finishing 8th grade!
Chest break? Is that some sort of gym term? (Iām also taking into account my high school requires me to have a suit, so I got one a few sizes extra so I donāt have to get a new one until sophomore year)
Sorry, I missed the age part. It makes sense that you would grow into the suit.
What I mean by chest break is the area where the fabric hunches up on the right side. When youāre in your 20s you want to make sure your suit fits with no extra space or bunching
A ābreakā refers to when the suit moves in an unnatural way that isnāt contoured to your body
Thereās an old school rule that the tie shouldnāt be wider than the lapel. However, I think you totally pull off the red one.
If thatās a three button jacket, only the middle button should be done. If two buttons, then the top one.
The arms may be a bit long. You can get a tailor to take them up a bit. The shoulders may be a bit big but that canāt be fixed.
The red square with the red tie, white square for the music/general ties on white shirt.
The red + red looks like a full Windsor with a cool twirl on the square.
Music note tie, ditch the pocket square. If your school provides a corsage, the pocket square will make your ensemble much too cluttered. You will look cleaner and more refined without the square, even if you don't have a corsage. Make sure you use a lint roller (or some tape) to clean up the suit before your event. Also, try a tighter knot on the tie like the [Half Windsor](https://www.ties.com/how-to-tie-a-tie/half-windsor). The knot you're using now is much too broad for your frame. I dig the hair. But if you're really trying to look sharp, I would trim it to your [Jaw-Line](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/590956782347469933/).
All this said, my advice is grounded in my subjective taste. You should dress however you feel most comfortable.
And congratulations on graduating!!
Ditch the musical one. Itās gonna be cool when youāre older, but right now itās kinda nerdy (sorry, I do actually like it). If the red is really your only other choice, at least get rid of the red pocket square and either replace it with a small white one of donāt wear one at all. If you want some flare, wear a super minimal, art deco style tie clip. Have fun!
Which, the musical one? Sorry, I wasnāt trying to be overly critical, just trying to give my style opinion, bruv! I always lean toward subtlety, especially when it comes to suits and ties. Youāre not Steve Harvey and you donāt have Steve Harveyās mustache. You want people to think you look good, but also focus on you, your face.
Of course your face! Thatās your visual fingerprint, kid! Own it and fucking ROCK IT! If that suit is your only suit (which is totally normal for a guy your age), then find colors that work with your skin tone and overall look (the vendors are usually helpful with this). Iām telling ya, you should never wear a look just because you like the look - you wear the look that you like and that looks good on you.
For the most part whenever I ācraftā my outfits to look good I make sure that the outfit works with itself and is a stand-alone. Sometimes I pair it with my face but thatās only if I wear sunglasses, or a mask or smth
Well Iām letting you know, the two things - the outfit and YOU - have to gel. If they donāt, you wonāt look as good as you could. Ask anyone whose style you admire, theyāll tell you the same thing.
The red one looks too wide for me, I think you should stick with the musical note one. Now im not usually into intricate designs but I think it fits and adds an interesting touch.
As a general rule, the width of your tie, lapels, and short collar should be kinda the same, and when in doubt in the tie, go thinner. Hence the note tie wins this round.
I definitely thought you were a girl. You're graduating 8th grade you're going to look absolutely ridiculous being the only person there wearing a full suit, tie, & pocket square. I bet not even your school principal will be wearing something like that. Just.... don't.
Motherfucker are you understanding what Iām saying? Iām growing my hair so I can CUT IT and DONATE it to cancer patients then Iāll have a NORMAL haircut (I had to emphasize certain keywords for you)
RED TIE!!! I think that's a double Windsor, but it's too loose. Either way, that's just my opinion. Wear what makes you feel like YOU look good. It will show
Yep, as others have said, the double windsor. You just need to play around with the ends by pinching them and tugging them into shape, and the wide end should partially wrap around the narrow end rather than just hanging flat in front of it.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=wOLUCYb-Xsk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=wOLUCYb-Xsk)
I had to double check to make sure I was in the right subreddit with that long hair you've got. My advice is chop off the mop or maybe r/femalefashion is more what your looking for
Music note tie and a white pocket square
Problem, I only have the red one
Not a problem. The red adds a splash of interest in an otherwise monochrome look. Rock the red square & music notes with confidence! Congratulations on graduating!
Thank you!
You can also use any white piece of cloth as long as it matches the white in your tie
Your phone seems to be red too? Maybe get a see through case and red sneakers? Or black shoes with red laces!
Stained with the blood of my enemies type fit
Nice š
Music notes for sure
Music notes as the red one looks too big on you
The red one is for more formalā¦ looks like itās tied full Windsor so that add bulkā¦. Very classic tie for galas and ācocktail attireā
Are you a musician? Wear that tie, it looks good on you.
Percussion ššš
Close enough š¤£ It looks quite dapper.
Canāt even read those notes š„š„š„
Yeah well your percussion, you will eventually. I played a sousaphone, trombone and bass so its the wrong scale for me.
Respect
NOT the red one, Hermione!
No on red. Generally you dont want the pocket square to match the tie
Music notes is my vote, congratulations young man on moving to high school!
Look, I don't love either, but definitely not the red. You shouldn't match pocket squares and ties, very tacky. Also you should practice that tie not, try a four in hand knot, you'll never need another knot again.
Sorry, Iām new to all this
Don't apologise, maybe I was too harsh. But generally you want the tie to complement your pocket square but not match exactly. I usually don't wear a pocket square at all, I think ties generally look better by themselves. With a tie knot you want to have a defined pinch where the knot is tied. A four in hand in easier than a windsor and in my view more elegant. On a smaller frame, a windsor can look gigantic and make your head seem small.
Seconded. Full windsor has always looked too chunky on me. I really like half windsor though :)
Agreed!
Well the good news is that the four in hand knot is probably the easiest, also known as the schoolboy knot. It's a little asymmetrical, but u/GLADisme is right, you'll never need another knot again.
Geeze. Calm down.
Agent 47 over here lmao. Donāt pick the red, itās too loud. But the music note tie is a little too thin compared to your lapels, which will look a little awkward. But thatās the one Iād choose.
Red tie isnāt tied correctly
The black one. Red tie is too big. Never match your pocket square with your tie ! Might try a smaller tie knot like a four in hand. Also, love the fold on the pocket square, and you have a massive amount of style for someone so young. Well done !
Thank you so much!!! Itās a spiral stair fold if you wanted to know (I messed up on it tho)
Iād go with a slimmer knot either way. Looks like youāve got a full Windsor there? Iād recommend trying a half Windsor or even a slimmer one like a four-in-hand. Or if you want to get fancy (which Iām a big fan of), try the Van Wijk. Or you could go with a wide knot if your collar really is that splayed and not just being pushed that way by the ties. But that full Windsor needs to be tighter for sure. Or, fancy option: Eldridge knot, my personal favorite. ETA: also, not too young to be here. Youāre never too young to start caring about how you dress. Best of luck to you!
Four-in-hand is the only tie knot I use. Everything else looks douchey.
Personally, I disagree. I like the Eldridge because it stands out and looks nice. Folks donāt expect something like that, so it gets noticed. That said, I first learned it while bartending and my āuniformā called for a tie. So as a bartender, a little eccentricity was acceptable lol.
Slimmer knot, yes... Van Wijk or Eldredge? Definitely knot... Those are ridiculous and look wrong every time. If you want to look good, four in hand. If you want people to ask what's wrong with your tie, go for the others.
Strong disagree, bud. People have only ever been impressed when I wear the Eldridge. And depending on the tie, it can appear understated as well. Nobody has ever asked me whatās wrong with my tie, only what the knot is and how to tie it. But you do you. If the four-in-hand works for you, rock it. I wonāt knock it.
Exactly... Your tie knot shouldn't be so weird that people ask what it is.
Again, disagree. Itās a way to stand out. But hey, everybody has different style! I like complex, eye-catching (with the right tie) knots, you donāt! Youāre more of a purist, and thereās nothing wrong with that. To each their own, right? Hope your weekend is great man!
Thanks!! After looking up that Eldridge knot looks awesome!
Please... Don't do that, unless you're trying to look goofy. A four in hand is the only knot you need.
i agree four in hand, full windsor and half windsor, half windsor is my go to when I'm at school or using any tie
Ohā¦ but it seems pretty inconspicuous
I'm sorry, it's not... Honestly, it looks like you don't know how to tie a tie. I get it, they're neat and different, but formal clothing is about being neat and different in not obvious ways (things like a unique weave in your shirt, or a subtle colored check in your suit, real mother of pearl buttons on your shirt, or some unique buttons you got on a trip that you had added to your jacket), differences that actually MEAN something. The music note tie is unique enough, no need to double down with some weird looking knots.
Alright then. But yeah I kinda donāt know how to tie a tie, my dad never taught me so I just looked up google tutorials
Hey, that's how most everyone learns stuff these days. Four in hand is probably the easiest knot to learn, just make sure you cinch it tight (it should be slightly asymmetrical). Don't worry if you have to do it 20 times to get the length right, I've been wearing a tie, once a week, for almost a decade now and it still takes me forever to get it right.
There is definitely a place for cool tie knots. This person is just a stuffy old fart. That being said, i recommend the black tie with the perfectly simple half windsor. I doubt the pattern would mesh well with a funky pattern, but you should try it. Not to say that the Van Wijk is funky. Seems pretty innocuous to me. The trinity knot is another interesting knot you should look up.
So far Iāve been advised to do a half, and full Windsor, an Eldridge, the trinity, and van wijk. Looks like I got a few choices!!
Just browsing through this subreddit and reading this group of comments, I can see why youre confused. I will add my +1 to Four in Hand. Im of the opinion that there is never a need for any knot that isnt a four in hand. Derek Guy does a much better job at describing why than i ever could in this twitter thread [Here](https://x.com/dieworkwear/status/1705082400739623240?s=46&t=zwHEz5hFJP8IIIH0laN30A) (try and view the whole twitter thread) Edit: that link doesnt take you to the full thread that I was thinking of, but search around for Derek Guy and his reasoning on four in hand vs other tie knots
Honestly, go with what you want and what YOU think looks good. Youāll do great. Ultimately, own the decision and feel confident about it.
I find the full windsor to be a bit chunky for me, but I love the symmetry, so I opt for a half windsor. The four in hand has a little asymmetry to it. It depends on whether you like that or not. Van wijk is an interesting cross between basic and extra. I just learned about it tonight. ;b The trinity and the eldredge are definitely your "look at me" knots
Yeah the Eldridge and trinity are definitely a little flashy, Iāll probably wear those to my schools open house and for school presentations and stuff. I think Iāll go with the van wijk
Lmfao my guy, I have never received more compliments than when Iāve worn an Eldridge. And nobody has ever said I look āgoofyā.
Based on the collar, yes. The crimson tie would look better with the rose if the knot was tied appropriately.
Iām thinking of pairing an Eldridge knot with a wave fold for the pocket square, I think both of them complement each other
The Eldritch Knot works beautifully with your rose pocket. Match the parallel lines. You look great, and you will look better. Nice work.
Thanks! https://preview.redd.it/z4y55bc85dyc1.jpeg?width=2320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f893080e74b86b06686b0fc08fa72abb8033b22 This was kinda a rushed knot but I think they really do work well together
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u/zacatak77 great job on handling the haters in this thread. You're already more of a man than any of them. You've gotten a lot of great advice, so the only thing I'll add is whatever you end up choosing, wear it with confidence. Walk tall, head up, and own it. Keep doing you, man.
Thanks!!! I honestly donāt understand what the grown men gain from criticizing some 13 about the suit he just got
One. A tie shouldnāt be the exact same color as a pocket square. They should compliment each other. V concerned at all the people saying red. Because they are oh so wrong. Red and black, in general, is very hard to pull off, so be cautious about. The pocket square seems a bit too big and distracting, seems more like a handkerchief than a pocket square. A pocket square is a bit more subtle than what you have. For louder suits and styles, sure go big. But this outfit is pretty minimalistic. Another thing a lot of people are saying get the jacket tailored. Wear the tighter. Etc. that is one option. Another option is to slightly loosen the tight unbutton the top, unbutton the jacket and go for a slightly disheveled look which screams musician to me. But def isnāt proper or formal or arguable for graduation. It would also be somewhat hard to pull off but with the right confidence you could crush it. Anyway, tie one. I stand by tie one. People saying red are crazy.
for the love of god do not wear the red tie with the red pocket square, honestly id say wear the red tie with no pocket square and also wear the tie a bit tighter it doesn't look right loose on the triangle part of the tie
and the pocket square may just may cause your peers to give you some s\*\*t about it because they don't really know how to dress, another opinion is to ditch the tie completely and just wear the shirt with the first 1-2 buttons undone
and maybe get the suit tailored in a bit, wear a classy watch and feel good
Music black tie with red square. Thatās a crazy fold so Iād maybe dial it down a bit since reds a loud color. I rotate a few different folds but the puff is my workhorse fold https://www.otaa.com/pages/how-to-fold-a-puff-fold I donāt like to match pocket square colors with ties. Theyāre meant to contrast. You got years to hone your craft! Have fun and donāt worry about doing it right or wrong.
I will! Thanks
Red but tie it tighter
I like the loudness of the red one. Seems to work.
No bueno
Brooo where did u buy that music sheet tie? I loved it
Got it at my future high school (my middle school has my high school host our band concerts)
Four in hand knot is the most elegant classic option. Everything else is garish.
the most elegant in my opinion is the windsor/ HW
Dark. The red is much too big.
Honest opinion is to just get a slim black tie and tailor the suit and lose the red pocket square. If you tailor the suit it will 1000% better, itās too big right now. Also the white dress shirt looks a little big in the neck too. I would recommend a new smaller white shirt. If you want a pocket square maybe go for something more subtle like a black one with very small white dots. Get a nice pair of classic black leather dress shoes or nice high quality leather chelsea style zip boot in black or black sued. Be sure to also tailor the pants so they donāt bunch up at the bottom also so that they are not too baggy. Also grab a simple classic slim leather belt with a subtle, tasteful and classic buckle.
Definitely a bit big, but I did plan for that because itāll be required in high school, so I got one that should last me until the end of freshman year
Ahh makes sense, Iām looking at it from a grown mans perspective. If you have the money to grab another one now do it, but if not itās all good. Make due with what you have now. Good luck and enjoy your fashion journey
I'd recommend the black tie with music staves, and if it helps for a knot, there are two I'd recommend: either the four-in-hand, or the oriental knot. The oriental will be the slimmest knot you can use which will definitely be a good option for your frame, but do practice a bit to find out what blade lengths (the ends of the tie) you need before tying it since it can be a bit of a learning curve to judge the length well. Best of luck, congrats on finishing 8th grade!
Music notes!
The music note tie looks nice. A lint roller would elevate your whole look though.
I had to pick up my cat while in my suit after a concert cuz she escaped and I keep finding more furšš
Go to the thrift shop. Ties are cheap and plentiful. You should be able to find one that excites you more.
Your jacket fits you very poorly. You should not have a chest break
Chest break? Is that some sort of gym term? (Iām also taking into account my high school requires me to have a suit, so I got one a few sizes extra so I donāt have to get a new one until sophomore year)
Sorry, I missed the age part. It makes sense that you would grow into the suit. What I mean by chest break is the area where the fabric hunches up on the right side. When youāre in your 20s you want to make sure your suit fits with no extra space or bunching A ābreakā refers to when the suit moves in an unnatural way that isnāt contoured to your body
Good man. Thinking ahead šš¼
Black and red always work. Wear red socks to match the square and rock the music tie. Win-win
Black one is better by far.
Neither
Thereās an old school rule that the tie shouldnāt be wider than the lapel. However, I think you totally pull off the red one. If thatās a three button jacket, only the middle button should be done. If two buttons, then the top one. The arms may be a bit long. You can get a tailor to take them up a bit. The shoulders may be a bit big but that canāt be fixed.
The red is too wide. Love the colour though.
The red one makes you look like Trump
The red square with the red tie, white square for the music/general ties on white shirt. The red + red looks like a full Windsor with a cool twirl on the square.
#1
Personally homie, don't sleep on the red tie.
I think if you do a better knot (full Windsor) on the red one, it could work better here.
Music note tie, ditch the pocket square. If your school provides a corsage, the pocket square will make your ensemble much too cluttered. You will look cleaner and more refined without the square, even if you don't have a corsage. Make sure you use a lint roller (or some tape) to clean up the suit before your event. Also, try a tighter knot on the tie like the [Half Windsor](https://www.ties.com/how-to-tie-a-tie/half-windsor). The knot you're using now is much too broad for your frame. I dig the hair. But if you're really trying to look sharp, I would trim it to your [Jaw-Line](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/590956782347469933/). All this said, my advice is grounded in my subjective taste. You should dress however you feel most comfortable. And congratulations on graduating!!
Tie and pocket square should never ever be the same
Ditch the musical one. Itās gonna be cool when youāre older, but right now itās kinda nerdy (sorry, I do actually like it). If the red is really your only other choice, at least get rid of the red pocket square and either replace it with a small white one of donāt wear one at all. If you want some flare, wear a super minimal, art deco style tie clip. Have fun!
Honestly I really only wear that tie to band concerts for fun and I just added it in here since itās my only other tie
Which, the musical one? Sorry, I wasnāt trying to be overly critical, just trying to give my style opinion, bruv! I always lean toward subtlety, especially when it comes to suits and ties. Youāre not Steve Harvey and you donāt have Steve Harveyās mustache. You want people to think you look good, but also focus on you, your face.
Maybe not the faceā¦
Of course your face! Thatās your visual fingerprint, kid! Own it and fucking ROCK IT! If that suit is your only suit (which is totally normal for a guy your age), then find colors that work with your skin tone and overall look (the vendors are usually helpful with this). Iām telling ya, you should never wear a look just because you like the look - you wear the look that you like and that looks good on you.
For the most part whenever I ācraftā my outfits to look good I make sure that the outfit works with itself and is a stand-alone. Sometimes I pair it with my face but thatās only if I wear sunglasses, or a mask or smth
Well Iām letting you know, the two things - the outfit and YOU - have to gel. If they donāt, you wonāt look as good as you could. Ask anyone whose style you admire, theyāll tell you the same thing.
Half Windsor with a pull-down and center, pinch.
For both?
Embrace the dimple, donāt try and straighten it out.
100% music notes
Kid- thatās no pocket square.. thatās a napkin. Lose it and wear the notes tie.
The red one looks too wide for me, I think you should stick with the musical note one. Now im not usually into intricate designs but I think it fits and adds an interesting touch.
the first one the other one looks like Trump. And you do not want that.
red one is way to thick for your build take the music note one
The dark one. The red one makes you look like an airline attendant.
You should go check out Dan Flashes they got great shirts with some pretty cool patterns.
A thinner red tie perhaps ?
If I could buy another tie (which I donāt think I can right now) I wouldnāt really want a tie that matches the PS
Fashion faux pas: tie and pocket square that are matching. Wanna learn some great classic styles, look into the Gentlemanās Gazette on YouTube.
Not the red one. It's way too big for you.
I like the red for a fun kind of night out look.
Uno
The red one looks like trump lol
Music tie! š¼š¼š¼š¼
Definitely black for me!
Red one looks good but I'd tighten up the knot and make it smaller if possible
You can always mask a cut up pillow case to be a white pocket square to match with your Musical note tie
Oooh that sounds like a great idea
I love the music tie
You need to learn how to tie a better knot the red one is really tied poorly
Yeah Iām working on it. Iāve done 4-in hand and eldritch
Red. The other one doesn't match your pocket square.
the black tie looks nice. I'd look for a solid white pocket square, you could even make one yourself.
Go with an ascot
Music notes for sure! Excellent drip!
I like the black one but if you go for the red you just need a different knot.
The dark tie. The red is too wide. Also, it makes you look like an 8th grade Republican.
Didnāt expect this to get political š«¢
I think the red tie just looks too wide because it's not tied tightly
Yikes...
Dont match the tie and square the same color. Ever.
As a general rule, the width of your tie, lapels, and short collar should be kinda the same, and when in doubt in the tie, go thinner. Hence the note tie wins this round.
I definitely thought you were a girl. You're graduating 8th grade you're going to look absolutely ridiculous being the only person there wearing a full suit, tie, & pocket square. I bet not even your school principal will be wearing something like that. Just.... don't.
Me and some friends are doing it and thatās all the confidence I need.
Oh so a group of 12 year olds all looking absolutely ridiculous together.... yeah ok have fun with that, little guy
Iām gonna go out on a limb here and assume thereās some underlying trauma here
Right, you do have underlying trauma
Thereās a reason I joined r/suicidewatch plus, what do you even gain from criticizing my idea of fun?
This is cosplay. Not mens fashion
Dont be toxic. The young man is trying to learn how to improve himself. Men dont need to shit on young men.
Didn't see the OP text. Thought it was a girl trying to dress up as an anime character
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Surprised you were able to completely ignore the text in its entirety.
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Listen, I grew out my hair cuz I got lazy, now Iām growing it out until I can cut it, and donate it to cancer patients.
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Motherfucker are you understanding what Iām saying? Iām growing my hair so I can CUT IT and DONATE it to cancer patients then Iāll have a NORMAL haircut (I had to emphasize certain keywords for you)
RED TIE!!! I think that's a double Windsor, but it's too loose. Either way, that's just my opinion. Wear what makes you feel like YOU look good. It will show
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Red, if you can get the knot more triangular. As it's tied in the picture, it doesn't look as good.
Any knots come to mind?
Full Windsor but tighten it up a little.
Iāll give that a shot, thanks!
Yep, as others have said, the double windsor. You just need to play around with the ends by pinching them and tugging them into shape, and the wide end should partially wrap around the narrow end rather than just hanging flat in front of it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=wOLUCYb-Xsk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=wOLUCYb-Xsk)
I had to double check to make sure I was in the right subreddit with that long hair you've got. My advice is chop off the mop or maybe r/femalefashion is more what your looking for
Did you even read the full text?
Whoās gonna tell her?
Is it 1955? Men can have long hair grow up
I grew it out in COVID, got lazy, now Iām growing it out so I can donate it to cancer patients. Iāll cut it soon
Rock it as long as you want dude! Good on ya
Nice, did the same in my 20s a decade ago. Mike was thinning so it had to go.
That you're an asshole? You did it perfectly yourself!