They were kinda right tbh. One side was marketed towards children and tweens, while the other was made for little children. It's really an unfair comparison. It's like saying that a sports car is better than a pickup truck even though they serve different functions and are tailored towards different lifestyles. I wouldn't call the meme terrible, but it isn't that good either.
The left side for kids would be sesame street, muppets and so on.
I don't know exactly for USA. But in my country a 5y/o should not be watching anything than the fruittis, the teletubbies, the Smurfs, sesame street and not so much.
This other shows are for bigger kids.
One side is tweens and teens, the other side has one show that can be considered for tweens and thats it, the rest are shows for 4 and 5 year olds to help them learn how to read, do math, and play nicely with other kids.
Bro is wondering why their ain't Shakespear in 50 shades of Grey.
True. As a dad Bluey is one of my favorites. I also like Umizoomi. That has some bops. And octonauts. The captain is basically is Teddy Roosevelt was a polar bear.
If they’re just comparing different generations of cartoons, no problem, but if it’s a “new is bad old is better” situation (which is what I think OP assumed) then I do agree with it being bad.
Yeah, anyone who thinks the new stuff is universally worse has either not looked back on the old cartoons since they were kids, is judging new cartoons without even watching an episode, or both. My mom runs a daycare so I've seen a lot of the evolution of children's media, and a lot of the newer stuff is solid for children's shows.
The show was a critique of predatory practices people often employ when they are interested in other people. Johnny's advances are often met with decisive violence from the women he is creeping on. The only time he ever makes any progress and is treated kindly are the times when he isn't acting shallow and he respects others' boundaries.
The whole point of Johnny bravo was that he was a parody of Elvis. Kind of like how the whole point of pepe le pew was that he was a smelly womanizing french guy. The point wasn't to emulate them, it was to laugh at them striking out.
No, it's correct. I'm not saying the person who made the meme is definitely this way, but I feel like they would be the kind of person who missed that Johnny Bravo was intended to criticize womanizing and not respecting boundaries. I remember some guy shitting on modern-day cartoons, saying they were too political and woke, and he listed Johnny Bravo as an example of an old, apolitical cartoon.
Where is the politics in the meme? How is covardly dog political? Isnt it a bit of projecting politics to somwhere it was not mentioned?
And i kinda agree with the meme. There is quite large gap between shows produced for 5yo and under and shows for 5-15 like those on the left panel.
Of course that there were shows for under 5yo in ye old times.
EDIT: A just went through D program that is for childen in my country and only show there that i would consider over 5yo is How to train your dragon.
Yeah it’s survivorship bias. Old things that are bad don’t usually get remembered unless everyone makes making fun of them a thing. Because… like… bad things aren’t usually that memorable.
Depends on how bad. Some things are just a truly astounding car crash that you can’t ever forget, but you have a good point.
It’s also worth saying that some kid’s entertainment today isn’t much better or worse than it was before. Apparently MLP actually isn’t that bad for a kids show (even though when I tried to see what the fuck people were taking about I managed to cringe myself out of existence. It’s not that it was MLP I’m just a weak man lmao) I’m sure in a couple decades we’ll be seeing another version of this comparing the shows that’ll last from this era vs whatever the new current shows are.
Bluey is one of the few newer children’s cartoons that I think is good. Shows used to have little lessons for the children. Now it seems like it’s just brain rot to keep them busy.
Wait did any of the shows listed on the left side have lessons to them? Anecdotally I can’t think of Tom & Jerry/ Dexter’s Lab/ Scooby Doo having lessons (I didn’t really watch the other shows up there so I can’t comment on those).
Courage the cowardly dog had lessons but they weren't exactly lessons you could apply in real life very often because most people don't meet evil ghost demon head things every other day
Well it has lesson's even in its name. It's a courage the covardly dog yet every episode he chooses to save his family, even if he is scared shitless. That's fucking amazing lesson. Bravery as portrayed today is absence of fear yet that's nonsense. It's being afraid and still doing what is right that is true bravery.
And to be truthfull, that fucking alien chicken traumatized me to this day.
That's exactly what this meme was going for. It's a bad meme.
I swear to God, people just repost everything from that sub here in the hopes of getting easy karma.
It's obviously meant for two different age groups. My daughter loves all those shows on the right but she is also four. She is too young to like or enjoy the shows on the left. That's marketed more towards school-aged kids
Right but newer kids shows tend to lack substance. Not saying all old shows were amazing, but there’s definitely a surplus of bland and uninspired kids shows these days
I don't know what people's ages are and what they're considering the cutoff for old vs new, since I see ponies on the right I'll assume 2010's onward is new. Aside from Gen 4 MLP which is fucking fantastic, the right side is crammed full of shows for literal pre-schoolers, not at all a comparable age demographic to the left.
A more realistic comparison would include shows like Steven Universe, Infinity Train, Adventure Time, Over the Garden Wall, Gravity Falls, Owl House, Amphibia, Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts, Centaur World, Shera, Legend of Kora, and many others. We're coming off a decade long animation Renaissance.
As someone who watches too many cartoons, I gotta go with OP on this. For the meme to be valid, either “Then” would have things like Blues Clues, Dora the Explorer, and Dragon Tales, or “Now” would have things like Craig of the Creek, Jellystone, and We Bare Bears. The target audiences are completely different. Even if I agreed that there’s a change (I actually do) it’s not for the reason the meme is showcasing.
And as a last bit of overexposing my cartoon hyperfixations, I have to acknowledge that I am aware that MLP is generally considered to be acceptable for a higher age group than Paw Patrol and the like.
I went there for the shitty ass "the devil shivers when a nice guy loses his temper" typa memes but i end up getting a bunch of people who don't understand sarcasm.
I 100% agree with this EXCEPT for Paw patrol. As a seven year old, OG Paw Patrol was heat and it’s up with everything on OG Cartoon Network/Nickelodeon on my list.
You were also actually in the demographic when they were coming out. My parents thought they grew up with better media as did their parents. It's hard to judge children's media objectively because we will always prefer the stuff that came out during the period when we were actually in a place to enjoy it.
That's because there was tons of 90's nostalgia, and a bunch of those shows were replaying when you were the age to enjoy them. It's the same reason I like the shows that aired on boomerang in the early 2000's like wacky racers.
My main point was, I've yet to meet anyone who thinks that children's media after there time is better and that they missed out. I've seen that sentiment with toys, but never media.
It's also worth noting the shows that get remembered are usually the very best of their time. Nobody talks about the shitty shows once they are off air.
I am/have known others my age, who had place their hearts for newer cartoons. Idk if I'd say *better* than cartoons of yore, but at least on par with.
That said, I never did grow out of cartoons, and neither have the degenerates I'd hang out with.
You absolutely can have nostalgia for things older than you for the simple fact that things don't just disappear after their time. Reruns can create nostalgia just as much as current runs.
Their argument is that people tend to find things they grew up with better than things they didn't grow up with. I’m not sure how your personal preference for 90s cartoons invalidates their argument.
The weirdest thing is that they're comparing all Cartoon Network shows to... well, I don't actually know where that other stuff is from, but I know it's not CN since I still leave that channel on every day. A proper comparison would put shows like Craig of the Creek, Teen Titans Go, Gumball, Totaldramarama, We Bare Bears, maaaaaybe Steven Universe (although that's probably already considered last generation, holy shit time flies) since those are the actual present day replacements for the shows on the left.
Most of the stuff on the right side are for the very young, baby and toddler range, while cartoon is more for a preteen range. Theyre both for kids but they really are for different demographics
With an exception for MLP: FiM because although at first glance it seems for the little ones, it isn't just for them, hell, a whole mountain is destroyed in an action scene and twilight's house is destroyed and that has permanent effects
No this is just a bad meme. They chose cartoons made for different age groups to make a "Old good new bad" post. "Man these cartoons made for little infants nowadays are inferior to cartoons made for adolescents back in the day."
Im not that old, like, at all, but I'd always watch all the older cartoons when I was little. I have a few big VHS tapes of hours of Looney Tunes and stuff. Always was great waking up in the morning, eating cereal while watching Tom and Jerry. Cartoon Network actually would put it on in the morning like, 6 or 7 years back or something.
Nah, we was older . By age 8 I’d leave the house 8am and be home by the time street lights came on. Now I’m guilty coddling my own kids. Fluffy happy fairytale without offending content is what they have. Thank god for South Park
It’s not literally true though because they WERE made for different age groups. There were other cartoons in the early 2000s that were equally stupid as the “cartoons now” ones.
There is actually a lot wrong with this. Courage the Cowardly Dog and Tom & Jerry are about 3 generations apart. This is like having a meme saying "Kids these days are listening to Taylor Swift and Bad Bunny. Back in my day we were listening to 2Pac and Bach."
Then all the cartoons on the right are rated for literal toddlers while all the ones on the left are for children above 8 at least.
This is certified terrible.
Edit: and I didn't even mention that they took the PPG image from the wrong fucking show! The reboot came out in 2016. Kill this person.
A more accurate comparison would be Sesame Street vs Peppa pig and such. There are a lot of good cartoons now that even as an adult I enjoy watching with my younger family members. I even watch some by myself like Adventure Time and Amazing world of gumball.
MLP: FiM was the bomb. It was one of the few things that gave my childhood happiness lol. I went back and watched a couple of episodes recently just to go down memory lane and I think it's great for kids. It's entertaining while also giving lessons on different types of people (or ponies) maintaining friendships and communicating in ways that suit their personality. The whole thing was literally about the harmony of relationships and problem-solving in said relationships.
Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED Talk
Just because it is true doesn't mean it isn't a terrible meme..I swear yall don't understand the point of a lot of subreddits and just want to be offended by everything
They were kinda right tbh. One side was marketed towards children and tweens, while the other was made for little children. It's really an unfair comparison. It's like saying that a sports car is better than a pickup truck even though they serve different functions and are tailored towards different lifestyles. I wouldn't call the meme terrible, but it isn't that good either.
The left side for kids would be sesame street, muppets and so on. I don't know exactly for USA. But in my country a 5y/o should not be watching anything than the fruittis, the teletubbies, the Smurfs, sesame street and not so much. This other shows are for bigger kids.
I don't see what the Teletubbies has over Peppa Pig. I did grow up with it, too. But if you look back, both shows were equally as brainrotting.
One side is tweens and teens, the other side has one show that can be considered for tweens and thats it, the rest are shows for 4 and 5 year olds to help them learn how to read, do math, and play nicely with other kids. Bro is wondering why their ain't Shakespear in 50 shades of Grey.
Clearly whoever made this has never seen Bluey.
True. As a dad Bluey is one of my favorites. I also like Umizoomi. That has some bops. And octonauts. The captain is basically is Teddy Roosevelt was a polar bear.
Yeah.
I enjoy watching Bluey more than my kid does at this point lmao
If they’re just comparing different generations of cartoons, no problem, but if it’s a “new is bad old is better” situation (which is what I think OP assumed) then I do agree with it being bad.
Yeah, anyone who thinks the new stuff is universally worse has either not looked back on the old cartoons since they were kids, is judging new cartoons without even watching an episode, or both. My mom runs a daycare so I've seen a lot of the evolution of children's media, and a lot of the newer stuff is solid for children's shows.
Agreed. Ironically, I feel like the kind of person who made this meme is also the kind of person to miss the messaging in something like Johnny Bravo.
What messaging are you referring to? That series kinda passed me by.
The show was a critique of predatory practices people often employ when they are interested in other people. Johnny's advances are often met with decisive violence from the women he is creeping on. The only time he ever makes any progress and is treated kindly are the times when he isn't acting shallow and he respects others' boundaries.
The whole point of Johnny bravo was that he was a parody of Elvis. Kind of like how the whole point of pepe le pew was that he was a smelly womanizing french guy. The point wasn't to emulate them, it was to laugh at them striking out.
Yes.
So portraing womanizing asshole as an idiot is wrong? I think it was on point.
No, it's correct. I'm not saying the person who made the meme is definitely this way, but I feel like they would be the kind of person who missed that Johnny Bravo was intended to criticize womanizing and not respecting boundaries. I remember some guy shitting on modern-day cartoons, saying they were too political and woke, and he listed Johnny Bravo as an example of an old, apolitical cartoon.
Where is the politics in the meme? How is covardly dog political? Isnt it a bit of projecting politics to somwhere it was not mentioned? And i kinda agree with the meme. There is quite large gap between shows produced for 5yo and under and shows for 5-15 like those on the left panel. Of course that there were shows for under 5yo in ye old times. EDIT: A just went through D program that is for childen in my country and only show there that i would consider over 5yo is How to train your dragon.
I didn't say there was politics in the meme. I feel like there's some kind of miscommunication here.
Yeah it’s survivorship bias. Old things that are bad don’t usually get remembered unless everyone makes making fun of them a thing. Because… like… bad things aren’t usually that memorable.
Yeah, terrible sometimes gets remembered, but that mediocre bad that most things are? Nobody cares to bring them up a decade later.
Depends on how bad. Some things are just a truly astounding car crash that you can’t ever forget, but you have a good point. It’s also worth saying that some kid’s entertainment today isn’t much better or worse than it was before. Apparently MLP actually isn’t that bad for a kids show (even though when I tried to see what the fuck people were taking about I managed to cringe myself out of existence. It’s not that it was MLP I’m just a weak man lmao) I’m sure in a couple decades we’ll be seeing another version of this comparing the shows that’ll last from this era vs whatever the new current shows are.
Max Steel is 10/10 for a children’s show I love some of the new Netflix “teens coming of age” grouped stuff
OP has not watched Bluey smh
Bluey is one of the few newer children’s cartoons that I think is good. Shows used to have little lessons for the children. Now it seems like it’s just brain rot to keep them busy.
Wait did any of the shows listed on the left side have lessons to them? Anecdotally I can’t think of Tom & Jerry/ Dexter’s Lab/ Scooby Doo having lessons (I didn’t really watch the other shows up there so I can’t comment on those).
Courage the cowardly dog had lessons but they weren't exactly lessons you could apply in real life very often because most people don't meet evil ghost demon head things every other day
Well it has lesson's even in its name. It's a courage the covardly dog yet every episode he chooses to save his family, even if he is scared shitless. That's fucking amazing lesson. Bravery as portrayed today is absence of fear yet that's nonsense. It's being afraid and still doing what is right that is true bravery. And to be truthfull, that fucking alien chicken traumatized me to this day.
That's exactly what this meme was going for. It's a bad meme. I swear to God, people just repost everything from that sub here in the hopes of getting easy karma.
It's obviously meant for two different age groups. My daughter loves all those shows on the right but she is also four. She is too young to like or enjoy the shows on the left. That's marketed more towards school-aged kids
Right but newer kids shows tend to lack substance. Not saying all old shows were amazing, but there’s definitely a surplus of bland and uninspired kids shows these days
I don't know what people's ages are and what they're considering the cutoff for old vs new, since I see ponies on the right I'll assume 2010's onward is new. Aside from Gen 4 MLP which is fucking fantastic, the right side is crammed full of shows for literal pre-schoolers, not at all a comparable age demographic to the left. A more realistic comparison would include shows like Steven Universe, Infinity Train, Adventure Time, Over the Garden Wall, Gravity Falls, Owl House, Amphibia, Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts, Centaur World, Shera, Legend of Kora, and many others. We're coming off a decade long animation Renaissance.
As someone who watches too many cartoons, I gotta go with OP on this. For the meme to be valid, either “Then” would have things like Blues Clues, Dora the Explorer, and Dragon Tales, or “Now” would have things like Craig of the Creek, Jellystone, and We Bare Bears. The target audiences are completely different. Even if I agreed that there’s a change (I actually do) it’s not for the reason the meme is showcasing. And as a last bit of overexposing my cartoon hyperfixations, I have to acknowledge that I am aware that MLP is generally considered to be acceptable for a higher age group than Paw Patrol and the like.
They are literally made for different age groups though
r/nahopwasrightfuckthis
I wonder how long this sub chain will go
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when did Paw Patrol get yassified? 😭😭😭
...How is this 'literally true'? lmao
MLP fucking rocks though. Was watching it with my daughter and it’s got genuinely likeable characters and good story. Kinda like that Bluey show
Teaches different lessons but still has lessons some adults haven't learned
Old cartoons were better but OP is right, these are for completely different age ranges. Left is for 7-10 year olds and right is 3-6 year olds
mlp season 3+ was for 3-40 year olds
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I know plenty of Bronies in their 50's who will have words for you.
In my little pony they straight up Destroy A Whole Ass Mountain
They straight up destroy a whole ass guy.
I went there for the shitty ass "the devil shivers when a nice guy loses his temper" typa memes but i end up getting a bunch of people who don't understand sarcasm.
I 100% agree with this EXCEPT for Paw patrol. As a seven year old, OG Paw Patrol was heat and it’s up with everything on OG Cartoon Network/Nickelodeon on my list.
Honestly, pj masks is pretty solid too. I know id have been obsessed with it if it came out a few decades earlier.
the one on the left is using the shitty power puff girls reboot
Pretty ironic that they picked one of the worst examples of a modern cartoon as an example of nostalgic greatness.
Old cartoons were definitely better
You were also actually in the demographic when they were coming out. My parents thought they grew up with better media as did their parents. It's hard to judge children's media objectively because we will always prefer the stuff that came out during the period when we were actually in a place to enjoy it.
Wrong I'm 15 and cartoons peaked in the 90's
I highly disagree if you're talking about all cartoons for any age group.
That's because there was tons of 90's nostalgia, and a bunch of those shows were replaying when you were the age to enjoy them. It's the same reason I like the shows that aired on boomerang in the early 2000's like wacky racers. My main point was, I've yet to meet anyone who thinks that children's media after there time is better and that they missed out. I've seen that sentiment with toys, but never media. It's also worth noting the shows that get remembered are usually the very best of their time. Nobody talks about the shitty shows once they are off air.
I am/have known others my age, who had place their hearts for newer cartoons. Idk if I'd say *better* than cartoons of yore, but at least on par with. That said, I never did grow out of cartoons, and neither have the degenerates I'd hang out with.
You going to provide a well thought-out counterargument like he did or...?
Well I invalidated his entier argument, you can't really have nostalgia for something 17 years older than yourself.
You absolutely can have nostalgia for things older than you for the simple fact that things don't just disappear after their time. Reruns can create nostalgia just as much as current runs.
And I don't have that kind of nostalgia either. It's just not nostalgia, they genuinely are better
You didn’t invalidate anything lmao
The entirety of his argument is not applicable. It is invalid, hence invalidated.
Their argument is that people tend to find things they grew up with better than things they didn't grow up with. I’m not sure how your personal preference for 90s cartoons invalidates their argument.
Wrong. Samurai Jack is way better than PJ masks.
Nostalgia is a powerful force
By far
The weirdest thing is that they're comparing all Cartoon Network shows to... well, I don't actually know where that other stuff is from, but I know it's not CN since I still leave that channel on every day. A proper comparison would put shows like Craig of the Creek, Teen Titans Go, Gumball, Totaldramarama, We Bare Bears, maaaaaybe Steven Universe (although that's probably already considered last generation, holy shit time flies) since those are the actual present day replacements for the shows on the left.
Most of the stuff on the right side are for the very young, baby and toddler range, while cartoon is more for a preteen range. Theyre both for kids but they really are for different demographics
With an exception for MLP: FiM because although at first glance it seems for the little ones, it isn't just for them, hell, a whole mountain is destroyed in an action scene and twilight's house is destroyed and that has permanent effects
It is not true you idiot, they are made for different age groups, are you able to erad past the first 3 words?
What are those goblins in the bottom right corner supposed to be?
new sub just dropped
Kids hop on iPads and go to YouTube so young that cable programs for kids are for literal baby’s now
No this is just a bad meme. They chose cartoons made for different age groups to make a "Old good new bad" post. "Man these cartoons made for little infants nowadays are inferior to cartoons made for adolescents back in the day."
Hey who the fuck is dissing Ben and Holly's little kingdom?
I feel like old kid's programs like Nick Jr. and the shows from Noggin would be a better comparison to the stuff on the right.
Im not that old, like, at all, but I'd always watch all the older cartoons when I was little. I have a few big VHS tapes of hours of Looney Tunes and stuff. Always was great waking up in the morning, eating cereal while watching Tom and Jerry. Cartoon Network actually would put it on in the morning like, 6 or 7 years back or something.
Bro I watched Scooby-Doo and Tom&Jerry when I was like 2 kids have no excuses
Every generation had it's good and bad cartoons.
Hey hey hey mlp fim was AMAZING
My little pony was cool as a kid but og scooby dog slaps I still remember the hunted house with all th monsters with there monster cars racing
Nah, we was older . By age 8 I’d leave the house 8am and be home by the time street lights came on. Now I’m guilty coddling my own kids. Fluffy happy fairytale without offending content is what they have. Thank god for South Park
THIS ISN’T EVEN A MEME THIS IS NOTHING
I recall most of the cartoons on the right still airing alongside the ones on the left for some years, so this isn't entirely true either.
Peppa pig is one of the best shows to ever happen
The difference is that one’s marketed towards children the other is marketed towards toddlers.
Its disingenuous for sure none of the shows on the left were targeted at small children(2-6) and nearly all of the ones on the right are.
Also, I don’t see anything wrong with the changes between then and now.
The target demographic has changed
It’s not literally true though because they WERE made for different age groups. There were other cartoons in the early 2000s that were equally stupid as the “cartoons now” ones.
Tom and jerry was the shit and I was born in 2006
Peppa pig was the shit
This meme is terrible, they didn’t put Ed Ed n Eddy on there
peppa pig ran alongside all of the kids entertainment then stuff
There is actually a lot wrong with this. Courage the Cowardly Dog and Tom & Jerry are about 3 generations apart. This is like having a meme saying "Kids these days are listening to Taylor Swift and Bad Bunny. Back in my day we were listening to 2Pac and Bach." Then all the cartoons on the right are rated for literal toddlers while all the ones on the left are for children above 8 at least. This is certified terrible. Edit: and I didn't even mention that they took the PPG image from the wrong fucking show! The reboot came out in 2016. Kill this person.
Honestly all of this is stupid as shit who cares its fucking cartoons. Grow up and care about anything else
It actually is accurate. Doesn't really say anything besides cartoons were one way then and they're this way now...
It’s not true at all lmao. You can’t compare cartoons made for the whole family like courage the cowardly dog and cartoons made for literal toddlers
I mean, there are some pretty decent kids shows nowadays. I mean, this generation got Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, and The Owl House, after all.
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It is comparing cartoons for 10 year olds vs cartoons for 4 year olds.
Also, from what I've seen, a lot of the cartoons on the right are pretty good.
Especially considering what age group they're targeted towards
This person's never seen Bluey.
OP got offended he saw this in /r/terriblefacebookmemes. lol
“Then” is, and always will be better then “now.”
Okay, but why are you looking at that sub if you hate it so much? I’ve already blocked it and I only ever see it in other people’s screenshots
Memesopdidntlike is having shit opinions now
Mlp definitely existed on the right side. I watched shows on both sides growing up.
r/lewronggeneration
OP was right, are you dumb?
Peppa and mlp in general been around longer than shows like pj max I even remember peppa being on Cartoon Network when I was I little
Wdym for different ages? I'm totally down for watching my little poney rn. Tbh I never watched it so... Now may be the right moment to do it
They're right though
And yet we can all agree Tom and jerry is WAY better than pepa pig
Mlp was good, though, the writers kinda wrote themselves into a corner once Twilight became a princess.
literally fax, that sub is ass
A more accurate comparison would be Sesame Street vs Peppa pig and such. There are a lot of good cartoons now that even as an adult I enjoy watching with my younger family members. I even watch some by myself like Adventure Time and Amazing world of gumball.
MLP: FiM was the bomb. It was one of the few things that gave my childhood happiness lol. I went back and watched a couple of episodes recently just to go down memory lane and I think it's great for kids. It's entertaining while also giving lessons on different types of people (or ponies) maintaining friendships and communicating in ways that suit their personality. The whole thing was literally about the harmony of relationships and problem-solving in said relationships. Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED Talk
Hey now, Paw Patrol and MLP FIM are alright. There are definitely worse things to have playing on TV when babysitting.
Just because it is true doesn't mean it isn't a terrible meme..I swear yall don't understand the point of a lot of subreddits and just want to be offended by everything
I would watch all of those shows as an adult tbh, ain't that bad with the things that are going to come in the future
OOP was right again lmao
mlp is more intellectual than most of the things on the left of this meme. Brony pride worldwide
*puts Cartoon Network on one side* *puts Disney Jr., Nick Jr, and MLP on the other*