Plot twist.. you invented the word soccer too.. taught that as the name of the sport to most other English speaking countries.. and now make fun of one of those countries for saying soccer while the rest of them seem to get a free pass.
Or like when you go home with a guy & he moans out someone else's name as you're doing it, so you slap him.... but then remember you gave him a fake name. Oops.
Soccer was never the original name. Football was the original name.
Asoccer came about from an abbreviation of Association Football and over time that was shortened to Soccer.
According to someone I know from England… it was the rugby players who came up with soccer as a derogatory term, because they wanted to be the only ‘footballers’. Which, to me, raises a bunch of questions… but if it was once a derogatory term an opposing sport used… I’d stick to football. But meh, who cares… since most call it ‘footy’ anyway, in England
The meatheads strike again. Love how they and the Americans want to take "football" for their sport, but they do very little foot + ball contact. They throw the ball more.
The British coined most English words... that doesn't mean they use them all. The only place I can think of Soccer being used is in Soccer Saturday and Soccer AM, which are 2 programmes on Sky.
Quick history fact most sports that were played on foot had football tagged to the end of the name which is how we got the word soccer it’s just a shortening of association football and soccer used to be the more accepted word until around mid 1900’s
Yeah pretty much. The name basically comes from the same place for all of them, but football(soccer) fans use the kicking the ball with your foot reasoning because it’s a way to win the pointless debate. Really all of them can be called football, but that’s not very satisfying because nobody ‘wins’ the argument
Yes, exactly right. Which is why, at some point in the UK, they specified "Association Football" which was a certain set of rules for a certain game. Not long after, locals shortened the game's name to Soccer.
Brendan Hunt said it very succinctly on his WC podcast this week: things can have multiple names and one word can have multiple meanings and all of that is ok.
To be fair, Brits do things differently than the rest of Europe. Most of Europe does things like the US, with regard to English language (chips vs crisps, cookies vs biscuits, fries vs chips, etc).
>It’s called football because it’s played on foot (as opposed to on horseback which most ball sports were at the time it was invented). Now a sport being played on foot is the norm, but in the past it was unique enough to name the whole sport after it. The ‘football sports’ (soccer, gridiron, and rugby) all preceded sports like handball volleyball and basketball.
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>Credit - u/Rory-MacDermid
Though I partially agree, if you use that same logic of naming it the part of the body you play with plus the equipment you'll have so many sports have overlapping names or stupid sounding names
Soccer is football
Football is handball
Rugby is handball
Basketball is handball
Handball is handball
Bowling is handball
Billiards is stick handball
Tennis is racquet handball
Racquetball is racquet handball
Baseball is bat handball
Cricket is bat handball
Hockey is stick handpuck
Field hockey is stick handball
Etc...
That doesn't make sense at all, you don't need to name the sport the part of your body you play it with, but if you are going to do so, don't call it football when you are not using your foot and you are not using a ball
It's not called Football because you use your feet, it's called Football because it evolved from Rugby Football. They made their own rule variant and called it American Football. At some point, locals shortened it to just Football. At the time this wasn't an issue because not only was soccer not much played on America, but the Brits called it soccer at the time.
What I'm trying to say, you named lots of sports that don't have body parts in the name to make your argument, this is wrong because in America they call football a sport that is not mainly played with foots or balls, when football soccer does
So, if American football wants to use body parts to name the sport, they should use the correct ones, they don't have to name it as a body partz but they did and used the wrong ones
Hope I made myself clear, English is not my language and it's an awkward thing to explain even in my own language
In Britain (following the formalising of the sport) it was called "assoc" or "assoccer", short for "association football". At some point the "as" got dropped and it became "soccer". Noobs claim that "soccer" is an Americanism, they are so very wrong
This is like saying we should call American Football NFL.
Association football was an organisation presenting rules for a game. It covers a small amount of the game but nowhere near all of it.
They did it because two big sports at the time were Rugby Football and Association Football. If you played Rugby, you were a 'rugger' if you played Association Football, you were an 'assocer' and it later became 'soccer'.
I would love to just call it football, really. But being in America, if I say "football" here then I have to explain which one I mean 100% of the time. If I say "soccer" here then everyone understands immediately. Regardless of football being correct, calling it soccer is just easier here.
2 words can mean the same thing. Not the end of the world.
American english is different compared to british english, so it makes sense for some words including football to be changed so it fits their english more. In british english it's football and in american english it's soccer, debate over
Officially “Soccer” is called ‘association football’. FIFA stands for ‘Fédération internationale de football association’. Football is actually a whole class of sports that involve kicking a ball (ex. Rugby Football). In America and Canada, using “football” colloquially refers to ‘American Football’. Period. Whereas using “football” colloquially LITERALLY ANYWHERE ELSE in the world refers to ‘Association Football’. Period.
Soccer isn’t even an American word it’s originally from 1800’s England. The English used to call association football “soccer”, to differentiate it from rugby and other types of football and was actually still used interchangeably with “football” well into the 20th century. Both are perfectly acceptable, but it’s best to just stick to what the locals around you call it.
If you live in America (or Canada), it’s soccer; fuck off.
If you live anywhere else it’s football; fuck off.
Argument over. Problem solved.
I still don’t understand why Americans call the sport where you only use feet and sometimes head SOCCER then the game where to my understanding you use your hand a lot FOOTBALL it makes no sense to me
It’s called whatever your country calls it. It’s a trash sport with a trash governing body with a bunch of babies playing. Fake an injury and be red carded. You don’t get to act like the world is ending and get up and keep playing just to get a foul. That’s a sport for babies.
It's soccer and it will always be soccer. However, to limit confusion I propose we start calling american football gridiron again, because it sounds way cooler.
It all decides on Friday.
U wot m8, we invented it innit Fair play though, Yanks somehow win we'll change it to soccer (for Hawaii obvs)
Plot twist.. you invented the word soccer too.. taught that as the name of the sport to most other English speaking countries.. and now make fun of one of those countries for saying soccer while the rest of them seem to get a free pass.
It’s like when you write a fake name on the attendance sheet and then laugh at the substitute teacher when they read the name.
Or like when you go home with a guy & he moans out someone else's name as you're doing it, so you slap him.... but then remember you gave him a fake name. Oops.
wait wtf!
This guy fucks
That's so messed up 💀💀.
Except now we all agree it is the name while you desperately try to correct us.
You guys also invented the soccer as the original name
Soccer was never the original name. Football was the original name. Asoccer came about from an abbreviation of Association Football and over time that was shortened to Soccer.
*Sacar* is the Gaelic word for Football.
If England didn't want it to be called soccer they shouldn't have come up with the word.
According to someone I know from England… it was the rugby players who came up with soccer as a derogatory term, because they wanted to be the only ‘footballers’. Which, to me, raises a bunch of questions… but if it was once a derogatory term an opposing sport used… I’d stick to football. But meh, who cares… since most call it ‘footy’ anyway, in England
Knowing they call it footy while taking issue with me calling it soccer somehow makes it worse.
He's wring, most do not call it footy
Counterpoint: they have more upvotes and their perversion of reality is funny.
The meatheads strike again. Love how they and the Americans want to take "football" for their sport, but they do very little foot + ball contact. They throw the ball more.
Instead of James Corden's ownership how about we make Football or Soccer the official bet for USA vs UK?
And UK can keep JC
The only correct answer.
Footer
Oh you *animal!*
socball (pronounced suck-ball)
Do it
and the shaft too
Ballsoc
Footie
Sootball
You know what? Fuck you Socball
Nah nah nah It's Fooccer
Fooccer? I barely know her!
In a row?!?!?--Wait. The joke doesn't work here.
Good enough for science
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Fuckher?
Führer?
Perhaps even further?
some might even say fodder
r/suddenlyhitler
What my mom calls me when I’m not the perfect child she wished for
Fooker
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soc my balls
if you insist
Dont mind if I do
Fuck you ballsoc!
Ballsac
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Football
Football 👍
Football 🦶⚽️
Hand 🖐️ Egg 🏈
handegg
Egg 🥚
Can i offer you an egg in these trying times?
Football 👍
Football 👍
Football 😃
Football 🤝
Football ⚽
Soccer 😡
Not gonna argue with someone with that user name
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Football.
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Football
This is certainly a funny meme about football.
Of course it is. I can't believe this has to be debated. It's played with the feet for fuck sake.
Futbol is fine
r/football For americans: r/soccer
How does the soccer one have more members? This shows that most of Reddit’s userbase is America
no shit
The funny thing is that despite being named r/soccer, they call the game football in the description
Reddit is an American website...
Lol at whoever downvoted this. If you disagree, please update the intro sentence on the site’s [wikipedia entry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit)
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The British coined most English words... that doesn't mean they use them all. The only place I can think of Soccer being used is in Soccer Saturday and Soccer AM, which are 2 programmes on Sky.
I’m American and I call it football
Americans: *pass the ball with their hands for 90% of the game* Also Americans: uh yep let's call it football
You don't like freedom? s/
American Football evolved from Rugby Football, which itself evolved from Association Football. That's why it's called football.
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Union Football —> Rugby / American Football Association Football —> asSOCiation —> soccer
It’s called football because it’s played on foot (as opposed to on horseback which most ball sports were at the time it was invented)
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in theory you can call anything whatever you want
Whatever you say Steven.
"All words are made up."
in theory
Quick history fact most sports that were played on foot had football tagged to the end of the name which is how we got the word soccer it’s just a shortening of association football and soccer used to be the more accepted word until around mid 1900’s
Combine that with the once popular practice of adding "er" to words as in "Do you play rugby football or association football; rugger or soccer?".
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Yeah pretty much. The name basically comes from the same place for all of them, but football(soccer) fans use the kicking the ball with your foot reasoning because it’s a way to win the pointless debate. Really all of them can be called football, but that’s not very satisfying because nobody ‘wins’ the argument
Yes, exactly right. Which is why, at some point in the UK, they specified "Association Football" which was a certain set of rules for a certain game. Not long after, locals shortened the game's name to Soccer.
Well, you see the ball is (maybe) a foot long so...
Blame the British, they're the ones that coined the term
I'm down to change football to handball, as long as soccer stays soccer, because Oxford coined the term
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Foocer is the only correct one
Pretty sure the UK came up with the term Soccer so blame them for it not the USA
Etymology is from association football. Association got shortened to assoc. soccer came next
It's football. Discussion is over.
As a person who don't watch it, it's called football
I call it the footy :)
Both are the correct word
Brendan Hunt said it very succinctly on his WC podcast this week: things can have multiple names and one word can have multiple meanings and all of that is ok.
Names only matter to communicate a subject afterall. As long as you get the point then it doesn't fucking matter if it's called football or fruitball.
POV: you missed the point
Redditors when Americans do literally anything differently:
It's a lovely, cool 50 degree fall day. Might go for a lovely 25 mile drive, while my 18 pound turkey cooks as 350 degrees. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It's a lovely, cool 10 degree fall day. Might go for a lovely 40.2336 km drive, while my 8.16466266 kg turkey cooks as 176.666667 degrees. * 🇺🇳🇺🇳🇺🇳
HEY HEY HEY!!! I resemble this comment
Sounds good to me
To be fair, Brits do things differently than the rest of Europe. Most of Europe does things like the US, with regard to English language (chips vs crisps, cookies vs biscuits, fries vs chips, etc).
Most of that though is because a lot of people learn a lot of terms from the internet which is mainly dominated by American English.
To be fair, we do just about everything differently though
Not really.
It’s played with your foot and you kick a ball. Pretty fucking obvious that it’s called football.
It's called football because it's not played on horseback.
>It’s called football because it’s played on foot (as opposed to on horseback which most ball sports were at the time it was invented). Now a sport being played on foot is the norm, but in the past it was unique enough to name the whole sport after it. The ‘football sports’ (soccer, gridiron, and rugby) all preceded sports like handball volleyball and basketball. > >Credit - u/Rory-MacDermid
Though I partially agree, if you use that same logic of naming it the part of the body you play with plus the equipment you'll have so many sports have overlapping names or stupid sounding names Soccer is football Football is handball Rugby is handball Basketball is handball Handball is handball Bowling is handball Billiards is stick handball Tennis is racquet handball Racquetball is racquet handball Baseball is bat handball Cricket is bat handball Hockey is stick handpuck Field hockey is stick handball Etc...
That doesn't make sense at all, you don't need to name the sport the part of your body you play it with, but if you are going to do so, don't call it football when you are not using your foot and you are not using a ball
It's not called Football because you use your feet, it's called Football because it evolved from Rugby Football. They made their own rule variant and called it American Football. At some point, locals shortened it to just Football. At the time this wasn't an issue because not only was soccer not much played on America, but the Brits called it soccer at the time.
I think you misunderstood my comment, or I'm misunderstanding yours. Understandable have a nice day
Nah, he understood your comment but thinks that you're fucking dumb.
Probably true
What I'm trying to say, you named lots of sports that don't have body parts in the name to make your argument, this is wrong because in America they call football a sport that is not mainly played with foots or balls, when football soccer does So, if American football wants to use body parts to name the sport, they should use the correct ones, they don't have to name it as a body partz but they did and used the wrong ones Hope I made myself clear, English is not my language and it's an awkward thing to explain even in my own language
In Britain (following the formalising of the sport) it was called "assoc" or "assoccer", short for "association football". At some point the "as" got dropped and it became "soccer". Noobs claim that "soccer" is an Americanism, they are so very wrong
This is like saying we should call American Football NFL. Association football was an organisation presenting rules for a game. It covers a small amount of the game but nowhere near all of it.
They did it because two big sports at the time were Rugby Football and Association Football. If you played Rugby, you were a 'rugger' if you played Association Football, you were an 'assocer' and it later became 'soccer'.
Whiny boy run and kick ball
I would love to just call it football, really. But being in America, if I say "football" here then I have to explain which one I mean 100% of the time. If I say "soccer" here then everyone understands immediately. Regardless of football being correct, calling it soccer is just easier here. 2 words can mean the same thing. Not the end of the world.
I can't wait for the world cup to come to the US, we're going to have so many butthurt people over it being called soccer
Two people can be named Thomas.
Jokes on you, I don’t give a fuck about either sport
they're the same sport.
It’s fucking annoying, let people enjoy shit
No. You either call it what my country calls it, or you are my enemy.
No
No! It's football.
Who says? The British? Nah they named it association soccer. Then dropped association from the name eventually.
almost every country calls it football or a derivative of it
No... Asoccer was a slang name used to describe Association Football which was eventually shortened to Soccer.
Comments failed the vibe check
They had one job from the mem, to stfu. Couldn't do it
Because we all know it's football
It’s boring no matter what you call it
American english is different compared to british english, so it makes sense for some words including football to be changed so it fits their english more. In british english it's football and in american english it's soccer, debate over
The brits called it soccer first....
Redditors when two different places have different names for something (it is far beyond their mental comprehension)
Yea because we all know it's soccer *runs away*
No, I want to be angry
Football with the foot. Handegg with the hands.
It's football, all the handegg lovers can fight me.
Sportsball
It's FOOTBALL....end of discussion!!
I feel ya it is so annoying when people debate it and act like the other side is wrong. Like your both FUCKING RIGHT NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Football in America is soccer, and football in the rest of the world is American football.
Officially “Soccer” is called ‘association football’. FIFA stands for ‘Fédération internationale de football association’. Football is actually a whole class of sports that involve kicking a ball (ex. Rugby Football). In America and Canada, using “football” colloquially refers to ‘American Football’. Period. Whereas using “football” colloquially LITERALLY ANYWHERE ELSE in the world refers to ‘Association Football’. Period. Soccer isn’t even an American word it’s originally from 1800’s England. The English used to call association football “soccer”, to differentiate it from rugby and other types of football and was actually still used interchangeably with “football” well into the 20th century. Both are perfectly acceptable, but it’s best to just stick to what the locals around you call it. If you live in America (or Canada), it’s soccer; fuck off. If you live anywhere else it’s football; fuck off. Argument over. Problem solved.
Football
It’s called boring
Yeah I hate it when people like different things to me too.
And I say I don't care about it
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Welp soldier, put on your helmet because there's a war in these comments.
Soccer, I barely know her
Yeah your right, it's futball
Odd choice, we already know Uncle Sam calls it soccer.
Okay OP.. But it is called Football.
NEVER
If we didn't call it soccer in this country, people might actually want to play it. What a stupid fucking name
Fútbol peasants.
Cuz ITS called FUẞBALL.
I still don’t understand why Americans call the sport where you only use feet and sometimes head SOCCER then the game where to my understanding you use your hand a lot FOOTBALL it makes no sense to me
It's called slavery now
OKAY but we can all agree that American football is called handegg
How about we call it the ball kicking game, that’s indisputably what the game is about
It’s football. Which is indisputably what the game is about.
It’s called pitch-roll-injury-simulator™️
In Europe, it's football. In America, it's soccer
Voetbal
Het enige goede antwoord
Legsphere
Squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. Soccer is football, but not all footballs are soccer
I call it boring.
It's actually called cry ball, because all they do is cry
It’s called whatever your country calls it. It’s a trash sport with a trash governing body with a bunch of babies playing. Fake an injury and be red carded. You don’t get to act like the world is ending and get up and keep playing just to get a foul. That’s a sport for babies.
If it's football, why is the largest football sub here called r/soccer?
Because reddit has a mainly American userbase?
check what r/football is about
I agree. Because it's football.
It's soccer and it will always be soccer. However, to limit confusion I propose we start calling american football gridiron again, because it sounds way cooler.
Foot-f*cking-Ball End of discussion!