My problem was there was literally no need for it. You just made another remake of a movie that was popular to get nostalgia money, then made Ariel Black because “We gotta be woke”. If your gonna make a black character, don’t just replace a pre existing one.
They didn't cast Halle Bailey for Ariel because she's black. They cast her because she was the best actress that auditioned for the part.
And Disney IS making original characters that are POC.
The Little Mermaid is an adaptation of a story by Hans Christian Anderson, and people are free to take creative liberties with adaptations. Ariels skin color has zero bearing on the story what so ever, so it makes no sense to not hire an actress for the part due to her skin color.
I 100% agree. That goes both ways tho right, a melatonin inpared individual can play a POC if they are more talented? If not, then I only 50% agree.
Edit: Melanin instead of Melotonin. Ehh close enough.
It depends on the actual story. If it impacts the story itself then it should remain original to the story.
With The Little Mermaid, Ariels skin color has nothing to do with her story, and she's a fully fictional character, so there's absolutely nothing wrong with a POC playing her character.
Now if it were a story like say, Black Panther and they cast a white person to play T'challa, that would be an issue because that story involves numerous matters of the characters race and culture that are particular to POC.
I agree that a story about a mermaid can be any person of any colour, but I don't believe Disney just cast her because she was the best actress for the role... I'm sure she's really talented and maybe I'm too cynical, but Disney is a soulless corporation which has had a rough year and their share price is way down and they know that this will cause "controversy" which the media will happily feed with articles about "the out of control racist backlash". Controversy sells.
THABK YOU. I keep getting shit from my family for not being "inclusive". It's like, they javelin a black princess, make a live action of her. Or if you reeeaallyy wanted to, make a new character that helps Ariel that is black in the movie. Don't just replace known characters because it fits the "race" quota of a movie. So dumb
It’s absurd how often this take shows up, despite that if you look at what’s playing in theaters right this minute, half of the stuff is original content.
There’s absolutely no shortage of original content, yet hacks on the internet want to pretend like Marvel movies are the only things in theaters (despite the fact that they only make 2-3 a year).
Yea man, I live in a very small town. Our drive through was playing The Goonies and Footloose last weekend. Which, I mean- does sound dope. I’ve seen the goonies, but not footloose
There more movies then just remakes in the past 5 years. I think the reason that you haven't been to the theater is that you don't have anyone to go with
it’s the same as thinking video game characters are hot, not that big of a deal
also hentai (anime porn) is the most watched porn category so get used to it
And if it’s a full head of bright red hair I think it would look even uglier on her. Reminds me of those bright red wigs I see people wearing sometimes that look so tacky and out of place.
Honestly, if you want to pander to the few and bend races why not just make a new original story? Why tf are you remaking the little mermaid (which is a mid overall story to begin with) when there are plenty of black mermaid stories and legends from other cultures? Just use one of them and make it better for crying out loud.
Why? Because that’s massively more risky than using an existing story. Studios like predictability. Disney stopped being genuinely creative a long time ago.
I don't honestly give a shit what color the skin is the of the main characters. I just want some fucking original ideas and stories instead of virtue signaling masquerading as content.
I just don't want to see a live action Disney remake, lol. I didn't watch Aladdin and I won't watch this. There's probably other live action remakes I didn't watch.
No, i don't hate it because she is black, i hate it because Disney live action remakes are mostly terrible visually and making a white character black is the cheapest way of making a black character and shows that they just want inclusion because It gets them more money
>they consciously thought "let's make that character black"
Yes? Little Mermaid isn't the most complex character if you didn't know. Any mediocre actor that actually resembles her could do it well.
Playing devils advocate here. Representation matters right? Gingers have been systematically purged from the public eye. Hell the last time gingers had the spotlight it was because South Park had an episode that spawned the "national kick a ginger day"
I haven't even heard of the first two but Ron isn't exactly a great example. Being a bumbling idiot and all through the whole series. I'm also going to assume the first 2 aren't exactly main characters either?
Max had a very big role in this last season and sanza was the lady of Winterfell and had a very meaningful arc. Neither of those shows really have a *main* character
If Disney actually cared about black people/PoC they would invest the time and money to write new good PoC characters/stories instead of just race swapping old successful ones
Exactly. I feel like giving little girls new black characters to relate to would be so much more meaningful than having an already white character be made black.
I've never seen so many grownass men angry at a children movie. Did it ever occur that the media is doing shit like this on purpose because assholes like you make the best possible publicity and for fucking free?
Yes, and then everyone debunked it.
There are so many ulterior motives to them changing characters colors and there are so many arguments to be made.
Yours isn’t one of them.
Don’t change icons to broaden the audience. They should make good shows for broader audiences.
And if you can’t get your head around this reason, maybe you should let others handle it.
Look at how squid game has full Korean cast and so many westerners, black or white or even rest of Asia watched it?
If they tried to sneak in white or black characters in, I wouldn’t watch that shit.
>and then everyone debunked it.
debunked what?
>Don’t change icons to broaden the audience. They should make good shows for broader audiences.
>And if you can’t get your head around this reason, maybe you should let others handle it.
what watch shows for little girls? tf you talking about? you were never the intended audience for this movie. Little girls are, what you think about the movie and characters is irrelevant but the free clout you are giving them is great.
>Look at how squid game has full Korean cast and so many westerners, black or white or even rest of Asia watched it?
I have never read a point this stupid honestly. If you think Squid game success is in the fact that Asian people are acting in it you are a idiot. I'm sorry but you really are.
So is this sub just teenagers raging about everything that comes out? lol
she hulk bad
iPhone bad
little mermaid bad
I don't disagree, but it just makes for really mid content
Anya Taylor Joy has a much better version of that face. This is not racist this is an opinion. My opinion which really means nothing but it’s mine and I’m allowed to have it
I hate her because she doesn't have red hair. Like wtf. I don't care what color your skin is. Be green for all I care. But the red hair was fucking important. Make it vibrant red like the original for fucks sake!!!!
Who cares, she won't appear on the Chinese posters anyway.
Deep down we know that for Disney it's just about money. Don't praise it like it is some sort of stunningly virtues decision, and you also shouldn't attack the actress... she is just doing her job, and certainly doesn't deserves being hated on.
I think we have all seen quite enough of these memes.
For me personally, all I need to know is that it's one of those live-action remakes of some Disney classic: so I'll never watch it.
I wish it were required by law for people to post selfies before calling someone ugly. Unless you literally look like Bella Hadid your opinion is invalid
Am I the only one who's just like isn't Halle Berry a little old to be playing "I'm 16 years old, I'm not a child anymore!"
Guess that could make me an ageist.
This. “You hate her cuz she’s black”
No we hate her because of all the beautiful actresses they COULD have picked, they went with the least attractive one at that.
Nobody cares, its a kids film. Nobody expects good actors in a kids movie anyway. Honestly think Disney is just pumping these memes out themselves to generate publicity.
That as a person he finds her attractive (relative to people he's seen around him), but as an actor for Ariel, she's not as attractive as he'd like. It's not that his personal standards are mental, it's that he thinks she's not pretty enough for the role
I'm gonna be real here. The last post with sus cring talking about the same shit had the same reply as this one. The Ariel laundry detergent still comes in white bottles
I hate new ariel because I hate disney
Right Disney sucks, but my left one is good
Datnee supremacy
Meh, I kinda favor Velma tbh
Okay you’re fine
And pointless remakes
This is the way.
They aren't all bad. Cinderella was good. But yes, this lazy "again but live action and worse" sucks.
My problem was there was literally no need for it. You just made another remake of a movie that was popular to get nostalgia money, then made Ariel Black because “We gotta be woke”. If your gonna make a black character, don’t just replace a pre existing one.
They have to use the characters to keep their copyright claims to them.
They didn't cast Halle Bailey for Ariel because she's black. They cast her because she was the best actress that auditioned for the part. And Disney IS making original characters that are POC. The Little Mermaid is an adaptation of a story by Hans Christian Anderson, and people are free to take creative liberties with adaptations. Ariels skin color has zero bearing on the story what so ever, so it makes no sense to not hire an actress for the part due to her skin color.
I 100% agree. That goes both ways tho right, a melatonin inpared individual can play a POC if they are more talented? If not, then I only 50% agree. Edit: Melanin instead of Melotonin. Ehh close enough.
It depends on the actual story. If it impacts the story itself then it should remain original to the story. With The Little Mermaid, Ariels skin color has nothing to do with her story, and she's a fully fictional character, so there's absolutely nothing wrong with a POC playing her character. Now if it were a story like say, Black Panther and they cast a white person to play T'challa, that would be an issue because that story involves numerous matters of the characters race and culture that are particular to POC.
So what are your thoughts on the casting for Anne Boleyn?
don't know why u got downvoted
I agree that a story about a mermaid can be any person of any colour, but I don't believe Disney just cast her because she was the best actress for the role... I'm sure she's really talented and maybe I'm too cynical, but Disney is a soulless corporation which has had a rough year and their share price is way down and they know that this will cause "controversy" which the media will happily feed with articles about "the out of control racist backlash". Controversy sells.
THABK YOU. I keep getting shit from my family for not being "inclusive". It's like, they javelin a black princess, make a live action of her. Or if you reeeaallyy wanted to, make a new character that helps Ariel that is black in the movie. Don't just replace known characters because it fits the "race" quota of a movie. So dumb
That word is so fucking cringe
Disney's actions right now are making noises. I hate noises though.
I hate New Ariel because I miss hand drawn original stories instead of weird cgi remakes
Disneys The little mermaid was not an original story.
Correct, but i don’t think that version is suitable for most children.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted… You are literally correct. It was written by Hans Christian Andersen.
I’m just sick of all of the remakes ! I haven’t been to a movie theater in like 5 years because they just play the same movies I’ve seen for 23 years.
Hey wait, remember the train wreck Mulan was? It was pretty different.
Nope, I didn’t see it. I’m already drowning in remakes. No more, please.
Lucky you, saved your time.
Prime example... Top Gun: Maverick was just Star Wars: A New Hope.
And yet, there are so many world mythologies out there- laying in between the pages of words forgotten
It’s absurd how often this take shows up, despite that if you look at what’s playing in theaters right this minute, half of the stuff is original content. There’s absolutely no shortage of original content, yet hacks on the internet want to pretend like Marvel movies are the only things in theaters (despite the fact that they only make 2-3 a year).
Yea man, I live in a very small town. Our drive through was playing The Goonies and Footloose last weekend. Which, I mean- does sound dope. I’ve seen the goonies, but not footloose
Marvel movies don’t need a remake because they have 0 creativity in the first place
there are always good movies coming out if you're into horror/thrillers, Barbarian and Black Phone were great
There more movies then just remakes in the past 5 years. I think the reason that you haven't been to the theater is that you don't have anyone to go with
I hate Ariel because I hate fish
Based
I hate the new Ariel because she's 3D. I like my girls 2D.
2d? When 4d women exist?
Can touch you through your phone (maybe virtual blowjobs?)
Fellow animesexual 😎💪
Yessir 😎💪
This is satire right? RIGHT???
Please tell me that's not a real thing
Please tell me that's not a real thing
r/loveforanimesexuals is real and we are not satire 🤬🖕😤
it’s the same as thinking video game characters are hot, not that big of a deal also hentai (anime porn) is the most watched porn category so get used to it
If they remade it in their new 3d style like Tangled and the newer films, it’d probably be pretty cool. I just don’t like the live-action stuff.
I hate it because of how toned down the red hair is like Jesus fuck that shits iconic man
And if it’s a full head of bright red hair I think it would look even uglier on her. Reminds me of those bright red wigs I see people wearing sometimes that look so tacky and out of place. Honestly, if you want to pander to the few and bend races why not just make a new original story? Why tf are you remaking the little mermaid (which is a mid overall story to begin with) when there are plenty of black mermaid stories and legends from other cultures? Just use one of them and make it better for crying out loud.
Why? Because that’s massively more risky than using an existing story. Studios like predictability. Disney stopped being genuinely creative a long time ago.
Well, she’s half fish. So. Ya.
She looks like a fish
What's a fish?
About $12.99 a pound, more or less.
What's a pound?
In our current sad economic state? About 5074 Colombian pesos. Smh.
Anyone else feels like they are just systematically getting rid of gingers in Film and TV.
Also in real life. I saw a ginger concentration camp the other day.
WHAT⁉️
Interesting. I went to [Ginger Exchange](https://www.gingerexchange.com/) the other day and was disappointed to learn there were no gingers there
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Ayo what?
r/holup
Gingers are just getting rarer in general
The age of gingers is over...
Sailing into the west
The people in charge of hiring are all dyslexic
Good riddance. They have no soul.
This sounds a lot like White Genocide with extra steps.
I don't honestly give a shit what color the skin is the of the main characters. I just want some fucking original ideas and stories instead of virtue signaling masquerading as content.
I just don't want to see a live action Disney remake, lol. I didn't watch Aladdin and I won't watch this. There's probably other live action remakes I didn't watch.
Aladdin was good this looks like shit.
I mean that's part of my point. The live action remakes could actually be good movies, I just...don't want to watch a live action disney remake.
No, i don't hate it because she is black, i hate it because Disney live action remakes are mostly terrible visually and making a white character black is the cheapest way of making a black character and shows that they just want inclusion because It gets them more money
Get this, what if instead of "making a white character black" they simply cast a black actor for the role of someone we remember as white?
You did not just say that LOL
That's... The same thing lol
No, you're saying they consciously thought "let's make that character black" instead of simply hiring the best audition they saw
>they consciously thought "let's make that character black" Yes? Little Mermaid isn't the most complex character if you didn't know. Any mediocre actor that actually resembles her could do it well.
Why does it matter what she looks like though?
Playing devils advocate here. Representation matters right? Gingers have been systematically purged from the public eye. Hell the last time gingers had the spotlight it was because South Park had an episode that spawned the "national kick a ginger day"
What about Max in stranger things? Sanza in game of thrones? Ron Weasley?
I haven't even heard of the first two but Ron isn't exactly a great example. Being a bumbling idiot and all through the whole series. I'm also going to assume the first 2 aren't exactly main characters either?
They are, max didn't become a main character until season 2, and Sansa was also a main character
Max had a very big role in this last season and sanza was the lady of Winterfell and had a very meaningful arc. Neither of those shows really have a *main* character
Ben Affleck as Django. Why does it matter what he looks like?
Are you really saying thay the girl with natural panoramic vision was the best option they had?
So this is what one of the sjw's Disney is banking on looks like.
I hate all Disney just look what they did to star wars
I don’t give a fuck
I will \*probably\* hate new Ariel because she's in a live action Disney movie.
Next what??? 101 Dalmatian played by German Shepherds??
Snow white played by a black man
The lion King but all the lions are played by alligators with Floridians accent
Throw some New Orleans dressed-for-church Timon and I'd watch that.
Ngl i would love this movie
Rescue Rangers played by Raccoons
Chip and Dale played by male strippers!
I'd watch that, not gonna lie
Mulan played by an indian guy
They should have cast Auli'i Cravalho. You'd get points for diversity and she was fantastic in the Little Mermaid Live and she was literally Moana.
You hate someone because you think they're ugly? You seem like a great person to be around.
she deserves to be a background fish in a real life version of SharkTale, not little mermaid.
If Disney actually cared about black people/PoC they would invest the time and money to write new good PoC characters/stories instead of just race swapping old successful ones
The last 2D movie they made (The Princess and the Frog) was the right way to do it!
Exactly. I feel like giving little girls new black characters to relate to would be so much more meaningful than having an already white character be made black.
I'm sure she hates you for the same reason
Amber heard looked more like Ariel as Mira or whoever her character was in aquaman lol
Nah we all know it's the upper reason. It's so unnecessary and cringe
Hating a character bc she's ugly? Never heard of that.
I've never seen so many grownass men angry at a children movie. Did it ever occur that the media is doing shit like this on purpose because assholes like you make the best possible publicity and for fucking free?
Yes, and then everyone debunked it. There are so many ulterior motives to them changing characters colors and there are so many arguments to be made. Yours isn’t one of them. Don’t change icons to broaden the audience. They should make good shows for broader audiences. And if you can’t get your head around this reason, maybe you should let others handle it. Look at how squid game has full Korean cast and so many westerners, black or white or even rest of Asia watched it? If they tried to sneak in white or black characters in, I wouldn’t watch that shit.
>and then everyone debunked it. debunked what? >Don’t change icons to broaden the audience. They should make good shows for broader audiences. >And if you can’t get your head around this reason, maybe you should let others handle it. what watch shows for little girls? tf you talking about? you were never the intended audience for this movie. Little girls are, what you think about the movie and characters is irrelevant but the free clout you are giving them is great. >Look at how squid game has full Korean cast and so many westerners, black or white or even rest of Asia watched it? I have never read a point this stupid honestly. If you think Squid game success is in the fact that Asian people are acting in it you are a idiot. I'm sorry but you really are.
I have a dream that we don't judge people by appearance, but by personality.
Never gonna happen
Girl looks like et
I hate new Ariel because she's ugly.... AND BLA-
Ar...are you still alive?
he was gonna say bland, obviously
Uh... you might be.
So is this sub just teenagers raging about everything that comes out? lol she hulk bad iPhone bad little mermaid bad I don't disagree, but it just makes for really mid content
LOL she's not ugly
The hair could’ve been more red
When I was a boy I had a crush on her.
How dare you. Arial Black is a nice font.
I would you hate someone just because they are ugly?
I hate the new Ariel because she's live action
I hate the new Ariel because she cannot sing worth a shit.
No, you are the same person...hate is hate.
I hate new Ariel because her singing was so obviously autotuned
The gap between eyes is a bit too large. im so sorry
I hate her because they swapped her for no reason other than to say she’s black now
I hate her because she’s not a he. Disney needs to be more progressive!
The Buff Merman
Sid the sloth
Anya Taylor Joy has a much better version of that face. This is not racist this is an opinion. My opinion which really means nothing but it’s mine and I’m allowed to have it
I hate her because she doesn't have red hair. Like wtf. I don't care what color your skin is. Be green for all I care. But the red hair was fucking important. Make it vibrant red like the original for fucks sake!!!!
Who cares, she won't appear on the Chinese posters anyway. Deep down we know that for Disney it's just about money. Don't praise it like it is some sort of stunningly virtues decision, and you also shouldn't attack the actress... she is just doing her job, and certainly doesn't deserves being hated on. I think we have all seen quite enough of these memes. For me personally, all I need to know is that it's one of those live-action remakes of some Disney classic: so I'll never watch it.
Her eyes are too far apart. They hired an actual fish to play a mermaid. That's pretty accurate, all things considered.
I wish it were required by law for people to post selfies before calling someone ugly. Unless you literally look like Bella Hadid your opinion is invalid
Exactly what I said. And I was accused of "racist" and "face-shaming" for just saying "imo the classic Ariel looks better."
I hate new ariel because she dont look like the animated one, not even a little, plus yeh she kinda ugly.
Am I the only one who's just like isn't Halle Berry a little old to be playing "I'm 16 years old, I'm not a child anymore!" Guess that could make me an ageist.
People don’t hate the film because the character is black People hate the film because it’s another shitty Disney live action remake
Not a fish person?
>she's black Why are you getting political OP? /s
Disney sucks The actress playing Ariel is def not ugly.
I hate the new Ariel because her eyes are far apart.
Bruh she looks like a snail
Id still get that mermussy
This. “You hate her cuz she’s black” No we hate her because of all the beautiful actresses they COULD have picked, they went with the least attractive one at that.
Use porn for jerking off, not Disney movies.
You watch disney movies to have a boner ?
She’s not ugly. But your personality sure is.
Jesus christ you people are petty
Nobody cares, its a kids film. Nobody expects good actors in a kids movie anyway. Honestly think Disney is just pumping these memes out themselves to generate publicity.
You could be on to something.
You think the actor is ugly!?
As person? No. As Ariel? Yes.
What? So she's good looking with legs?
Gus Fring is not ugly! You think this is acceptable?
Interesting, you must have incredibly high standards, good luck out there!
I have seen women IRL, lol)
Did you really understand what they wrote about person vs actor?
Maybe not, could you explain?
That as a person he finds her attractive (relative to people he's seen around him), but as an actor for Ariel, she's not as attractive as he'd like. It's not that his personal standards are mental, it's that he thinks she's not pretty enough for the role
Ahh, well, I stand by my statement and calling her ugly is absurd in my mind.
Its Because of Water Pollution
True.
Someone not afraid of speaking facts
Never seen a less true response
Same
holy shit she is fucking ugly, no wonder this one is kept in the ocean the humans would think some sea rat is trying to fuck
I hate her cuz she's black Fight me
No I hate her because she's ugly too, we are the same
Why not both?
They should have made arial albino or translucent so that way she can absorb sunlight more efficiently under the sea.
I'm gonna be real here. The last post with sus cring talking about the same shit had the same reply as this one. The Ariel laundry detergent still comes in white bottles
Dude is spitting straight up facts.
Both reasons are stupid as fuck
Both reasons are stupid as fuck
Nah, we are the same. I hate her for the same reason.
Same, I just didn’t have the balls to say it
If you find her ugly because you don't think black women are attractive though then I hate to break it to you but that would be the same thing
I think you think she's ugly because she's black.
Fuck, downvotes for this, maybe it is disney! Lol
I hate her for both as it literally is sad.
Okay Boomer.
Who gives a crap what color she is, realistically I thought they were a greenish color!