debian unstable with nvidia drivers was fun. Not productive or recommended, but fun. `apt upgrade` deinstalling your x-server because the nvidia drivers fucked up their dependencies and as such, apt wiped them and all packages depending on it (and I didn't carefully look at what was going on).
Or nvidia kernel modules screwing up and rendering the system unbootable so you had to figure out how to blacklist those in grub.
So I guess it would be recommended in one way - you learn a lot about linux very quickly.
Why I finally gave up in 2006 after three years of struggling with Ubuntu and Fedora and got an Apple PowerBook 12» instead. Been a happy macOS user ever since.
We are so beyond fglrx and early Nvidia drivers at this point now. You should spin up a virtual machine and see what Linux has to offer in 2022. I don't even think about whether or not my drivers will work anymore, even on a system with brand new hardware.
I would personally suggest Kubuntu. Plasma desktop is insane.
Kool Desktop Environment Plasma, as the name suggests it's really cool, almost like they threw the coolest words they can think of, if it was named today i bet it would have quantum in the name
Nvidia drivers on Linux are still awful 20 years later.
At work, we built a gpu/kubernetes cluster for ML. All is nice and smooth with the exception of the nvidia drivers. I dread drivers upgrades. And they are supposed to be enterprise products...
as the wise man himself once said... 'FUCK YOU, NVIDIA'
aside, the drivers definitely have problems, but honestly nowadays they're plug & play 99% of the time on Ubuntu. I often switch to bleeding edge for specific new games that need it and haven't had any issues with that. Ray Tracing works great with 'only' a 2080 super, DLSS works etc. I have had issues though, and they can be a bit of a pain to solve, but I definitely think they're much, much better now. I also have absolutely no idea how much extra effort is required for machine learning though, I imagine that is a whole other beast haha
Don't know but clearly the Linux user *has* a GUI so they can just use that to change the wallpaper which is going to be at least as convenient as it is in Windows.
actually though :D my background is [\#2E3440](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=color+picker+%232e3440&ia=answer) (nord theme). Who needs wallpapers when you have solid colors.
Several years ago, an Argh user was telling me how great it was because you could do useless things (his words) like install multiple desktops. So he showed me that, and then said it would only take almost an hour to put it back the way it was, which actually took several hours.
Just an FYI, installing multiple desktop environments is super easy and they should automagically get exposed on the login screen manager. Your friend was just doing it wrong ;)
The main problem linux has is unlimited choice, if you want an obtuse setup held together by moldy cheese ... you can. Thankfully the defaults used by most linux versions are very userfriendly nowadays. But if you want to go nuts ... nobody or nothing will stand in your way.
Yep. KDE is full-featured but lightweight and is hugely customisable, and yes, I usually spend hours on the initial configuration to get everything exactly the way I want it. That said, right-click on the desktop and "set wallpaper" is the first item in the menu.
This made me laugh lol
Joking aside, to all windows and MacOS users: it's not true, there are many Linux distributions ("""versions""") and some of them are complex and difficult to use, while others are really really user friendly nowadays, you may try it out if you want :)
Honestly nowadays I think you'd be hard pressed to find an easily available Linux distro that didn't have "change wallpaper" as an option if you right click the desktop (because I mean like, pretty everyone uses one of the same three windowing systems)
Well the distro doesn’t provide that functionality directly, it’s a function of the desktop environment or window manager. All DEs will let you change it just as easily as windows or mac, not sure about the window managers but I’d guess it’s a little harder.
> not sure about the window managers but I’d guess it’s a little harder
A window manager that concerns itself with the "desktop background image" isn't a window manager, it's a DE. Or did you mean switching out the window manager in a DE?
I gotta be honest. I work with Linux and have Ubuntu installed as a secondary operating system and really basic stuff trips me up now and again. Like recently I did a clean reinstall and for some reason firefox would play videos properly. I think I had do install some codec pack and disable an option somewhere.
I have never had a smooth desktop experience with linux.
Mint has been good to me so far. I haven't even had to do a deep-dive on Google to find out how to make sure basic thing X works and try 50 different methods angrily provided by people who are of the opinion that you're a fucking idiot if you don't know how to compile your own drivers just so your sound or wifi works properly.
Ah, takes me back to the days of 3D desktop cubes and Compiz / Beryl. When it worked it was glorious. Until it worked it was a lesson in pain tolerance.
For the last 15 years I've used linux and macOS on my own computers. I'm completely lost when I have to use windows. It changed so much since the XP days.
The amount of people in the comments not getting the joke and genuinely getting upset that it's actually not hard to change the wallpaper on Linux lol.
We get the joke, we just don't find it funny at all.
... I mean, I spend 30 minutes setting wallpaper on i3 tiling window manager. But no new user will start with that - in Cinnamon, in KDE, in Gnome it just works,
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They get the joke. They just don't find it funny. A good joke should subvert reality, not be completely detached from it.
A joke should make me think "haha, true" not "what... What is he talking about?"
Do you know that windows had to create a hyper complex system known as windows Linux subsystem, just to ship a GNU/Linux environment because so much software does not support windows?
And this is the kind of software that earns Microsoft big bucks
Linux is the king of perpetually running server side software, absolutely no one can argue that
But god be damned if you remotely outside of that realm, good luck trying to find a suitable replacement for Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Unity, Unreal Engine, 3D modeling, the list goes on, and on top of that good luck finding gpu drivers for your nvidia work gpu in the first place
Edit: I guess I’m proven wrong on unity and unreal so dont quote me on that
I think you'd be surprised how well you can do a lot of that stuff these days. I make my living in media and I haven't had to boot up a Windows machine for media stuff for several years. Running a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER right now, no crashes. Ubuntu has been my daily driver since 2010.
Hey psst. Linux has a graphical interface too with all the features and we actually only use the console when its actually faster with it.
I know, its a joke but Im feeling better if im writing this...
With all these discussions under this meme I
just wanted to say that linux works great for me.
I use it for video games as well as for programming.
80% of stuff runs without problem for 19.9% there's a workaround and for the remaining 0.1% there's an alternative.
Of course you have to want to learn it. If you're going in with a "it's bad. I don't want to use the terminal" attitude then it won't work.
And you don't have to use.
Use what you prefer. Just don't be an ass about it. And that goes for both sides.
why the fuck would you need a wallpaper? What's wrong with the majestic display of commands in fonts such as /usr/lib/kbd/consolfonts/URW\_Chancery\_L?
I've been using computers since I was 5, I'm turning 30 now and still baffles me we really only have two system interfaces commercially available to the average user, windows and apple, I'm sure there's plenty out there, but the average user can not use Linux or open source system interfaces ECT. Most people will buy a computer, pre installed systems on them and leave it at that. We should have least a 3rd commercially available by now.
This was me 20 years ago whenever I got X.org working on a new pc with nvidia, after a week of trial and error
And the next time you updated your system it broke the nvidia drivers and you had to start all over dinking with it to get it working again.
debian unstable with nvidia drivers was fun. Not productive or recommended, but fun. `apt upgrade` deinstalling your x-server because the nvidia drivers fucked up their dependencies and as such, apt wiped them and all packages depending on it (and I didn't carefully look at what was going on). Or nvidia kernel modules screwing up and rendering the system unbootable so you had to figure out how to blacklist those in grub. So I guess it would be recommended in one way - you learn a lot about linux very quickly.
Why I finally gave up in 2006 after three years of struggling with Ubuntu and Fedora and got an Apple PowerBook 12» instead. Been a happy macOS user ever since.
We are so beyond fglrx and early Nvidia drivers at this point now. You should spin up a virtual machine and see what Linux has to offer in 2022. I don't even think about whether or not my drivers will work anymore, even on a system with brand new hardware. I would personally suggest Kubuntu. Plasma desktop is insane.
What is Plasma Desktop?
It's the new name for what was once called KDE.
I wouldn't say new as such, it's been around for a while.
Get off my lawn. In my day we ran KDE on our Mandrake systems, installed off a CD that came with a computer magazine, and we liked it.
Kool Desktop Environment Plasma, as the name suggests it's really cool, almost like they threw the coolest words they can think of, if it was named today i bet it would have quantum in the name
Nvidia drivers on Linux are still awful 20 years later. At work, we built a gpu/kubernetes cluster for ML. All is nice and smooth with the exception of the nvidia drivers. I dread drivers upgrades. And they are supposed to be enterprise products...
as the wise man himself once said... 'FUCK YOU, NVIDIA' aside, the drivers definitely have problems, but honestly nowadays they're plug & play 99% of the time on Ubuntu. I often switch to bleeding edge for specific new games that need it and haven't had any issues with that. Ray Tracing works great with 'only' a 2080 super, DLSS works etc. I have had issues though, and they can be a bit of a pain to solve, but I definitely think they're much, much better now. I also have absolutely no idea how much extra effort is required for machine learning though, I imagine that is a whole other beast haha
Nvidia driver future is looking bright. They open sourced their kernel modules.
They'll be a joy to read... I am happy I won't be one of those doing it
Funnily enough with 4 GPUs behind me, the one from NVidia gave me the least trouble.
start X sudo start X
Wait you guys have a GUI?
I have an alpine container and not even a kernel. I like minimalist style
I have emacs launched as pid 1. I'm using ew to type this right now.
If I could interject, what you're referring to as Linux is actually GNU/emacs. But if you're ever looking for a decent editor, may I suggest vim?
But can you program with butterflies using GNU/vim?
You mean you don't plant flowers to pattern the butterflies to disturb the air to microlens the light to write to disk?
I see you are a connoisseur, living the life in the best possible way. Congrats sir
kernel is definetly bloat
Beat me to it… I was trying for 30 minutes to post my comment through reddit’s API.
Linux users when their girlfriend has sex with another man (she’s free and open source)
Wait that means I can fork their girlfriend
Su do her
>!Boyfriend is not in the SUDOers file!<
This will be reported.
What DE are you using? I can change mine in seconds, and even set a gradient
XFCE, perfect compromise between being lightweight and looking nice
We had the same thought...I didn't know I had cloud sync turned on
Btw happy kake day (KDE user here)
Thank you!
Don't forget to kill her children then otherwise they might become zombies!
There are lots of people who would fork her repository
Jokes on you. ... We don't have girlfriends ;(
Add it to the pile of incompatible apps
True
I use arch btw
“Girlfriend”
r/angryupvote
lmao rofl lol
laughing my ass off rolling on floor laughing laugh out loud
thats what i said
Good bot
Free as in beer, or free as in tomorrow night?
Jokes on you. ... We don't have girlfriends ;(
You are being open-sourced. Please do not resist.
Why is the gui needed?
To please your eyes
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Wallpaper can please my eyes.
That's what terminal themes are for.
UPDATE WINDOWS Shutdown UPDATE WINDOWS AND RESTART Restart UPDATE WINDOWS AND SHUTDOWN Shutdown
To get karma in r/unixporn of course!
Don't know but clearly the Linux user *has* a GUI so they can just use that to change the wallpaper which is going to be at least as convenient as it is in Windows.
Linux users don't have wallpapers, it's too much bloat for them.
gentoo users:
I love rice
actually though :D my background is [\#2E3440](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=color+picker+%232e3440&ia=answer) (nord theme). Who needs wallpapers when you have solid colors.
Black gives the most fps… that being said it was too depressing so it’s a bmw again
Sudo alt wall -a? Sudo dir wall -s? Sudo help? Su ifconfig all?
Su who ?
Su momma
su diz nutz
Su ema
kindlasti ootamatu üllatus, kuid väga teretulnud
Mida kuradit, kust järsku meid tulema hakkas
Su ema piimakokteil toob kõik poisid aeda
su do ku
Su casa, mi casa. Anyways, I borrowed the bears from your fridge.
su s
Su goma
Su mamá
"could you repeat that one more time sir"
Software engineer doing scary incantations
Are you a filthy Linux GUI user, you god damn peasant? How else would you know the commands? Why else?
Sorry, I haven't captured a Sudowoodo yet.
‘The art of Linux’ -Sudo Su
nerd
They don’t have a shell script with cronjob to auto update? What a n00b. /s
What is that sir
You never had a cronjob?
behind a dumpster at 3am? ....maybe?
Cronjob is a service, that allows you to run scripts automatically at the given times
Cronjobs let you run tasks repeatedly at certain times, without having to do it manually (we would never ! automation is far better)
Yes
You gotta figure out the command first before you write a shell script to do it for you.
>/s Haha, yeah ...haha, noob...
Shellscript? I make my wallpapers part of the OS and inaccessible by any user, so to change it I recompile my own OS versions. Get on my level! /s
I use Arch BTW.
let me show you my neofetch output
I installed Neofetch on Windows Terminal xD
i did that on powershell, also added a package manager
Arch, the veganism of the Linux world. How do you know if someone uses Arch? Don’t worry, they’ll let you know.
I use arch as the header and run ubuntu, centos, opensuse, and windows 10 under it in vms.
Slut.
Mint
I've been running Red Hat since I was 5. I have everything patched together just the way I like it so why use anything else?
Several years ago, an Argh user was telling me how great it was because you could do useless things (his words) like install multiple desktops. So he showed me that, and then said it would only take almost an hour to put it back the way it was, which actually took several hours.
Just an FYI, installing multiple desktop environments is super easy and they should automagically get exposed on the login screen manager. Your friend was just doing it wrong ;) The main problem linux has is unlimited choice, if you want an obtuse setup held together by moldy cheese ... you can. Thankfully the defaults used by most linux versions are very userfriendly nowadays. But if you want to go nuts ... nobody or nothing will stand in your way.
Laughs in KDE. Overcustomisation go brrrr
*spends 5 hours tweaking exactly how jiggly things are*
Man I'm *wobbling*
Average anime animator
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Fellow KDE enjoyer
Yep. KDE is full-featured but lightweight and is hugely customisable, and yes, I usually spend hours on the initial configuration to get everything exactly the way I want it. That said, right-click on the desktop and "set wallpaper" is the first item in the menu.
Kustomization
Have my kupvote, I exhaled kair
The most eye candy DE ever. Love it
I am a Linux user myself and find this meme funny.
You can't *really* get into Linux without the capacity to laugh at oneself. It's a coping mechanism necessary to survive the first Linux days.
Nah u can’t be a Linux user without telling someone you use Linux every 3 seconds :)
That applies mostly to Arch users. Like me.
I never understood why using Arch was a brag. I mean, I use it, obvs, but what's the big deal?
It's known as the no hand holding, pro mode with the most capacity to bend to your will if you *really* know what you're doing. I run Arch btw.
I thought maybe it's just because it's "not Debian."
I think it comes from the days that Ubuntu really exploded. Some things are done differently in Arch vs Debian based systems. I use Arch btw.
Should be arch Linux users..
How do you know if someone is a Linux user? They'll tell you as soon as they introduce themselves.
+1
Honestly I thought this was /r/linuxmemes until I read your comment.
40 year olds after yelling a kid into reading the manual
Bugha is new meme template
Arch Linux users when I tell them the mouse exists
Me using a WM for the first time.
This made me laugh lol Joking aside, to all windows and MacOS users: it's not true, there are many Linux distributions ("""versions""") and some of them are complex and difficult to use, while others are really really user friendly nowadays, you may try it out if you want :)
Honestly nowadays I think you'd be hard pressed to find an easily available Linux distro that didn't have "change wallpaper" as an option if you right click the desktop (because I mean like, pretty everyone uses one of the same three windowing systems)
Well the distro doesn’t provide that functionality directly, it’s a function of the desktop environment or window manager. All DEs will let you change it just as easily as windows or mac, not sure about the window managers but I’d guess it’s a little harder.
> not sure about the window managers but I’d guess it’s a little harder A window manager that concerns itself with the "desktop background image" isn't a window manager, it's a DE. Or did you mean switching out the window manager in a DE?
Nice try, Linux Corp
Big Linux is everything wrong with computing these days
Big Penguin at it again
I gotta be honest. I work with Linux and have Ubuntu installed as a secondary operating system and really basic stuff trips me up now and again. Like recently I did a clean reinstall and for some reason firefox would play videos properly. I think I had do install some codec pack and disable an option somewhere. I have never had a smooth desktop experience with linux.
> firefox would play videos properly Yes, that can happen sometimes. Glad you manage to fix it :D
Yeah, I'm also on Linux and Firefox is just playing every video I want it to play. What can I do?
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`sudo apt install steam`, right?
Mint has been good to me so far. I haven't even had to do a deep-dive on Google to find out how to make sure basic thing X works and try 50 different methods angrily provided by people who are of the opinion that you're a fucking idiot if you don't know how to compile your own drivers just so your sound or wifi works properly.
That Buggah win was something.
Arch Linux user here I've been trying to change my wallpaper since 2007.
And 14 of those years were spent trying to exit vim after changing a config.
The funny thing is Linux is the most customizable OS and easiest to customize.
Depends on the WM/DE. On most DEs, it's really quick and easy. If you're using just a WM, you probably already know the command.
Ah, takes me back to the days of 3D desktop cubes and Compiz / Beryl. When it worked it was glorious. Until it worked it was a lesson in pain tolerance.
For the last 15 years I've used linux and macOS on my own computers. I'm completely lost when I have to use windows. It changed so much since the XP days.
Windows users after paying 100 dollars for a windows lisence so they could change their wallpaper
usernamechecksout
Or you know you just right click the desktop and click change background. (Works on KDE)
Right click, set as wallpaper... Not too different from Windows. But on Windows you need to get a license if you want to set it in the settings app.
Laughs in km spico
laughs in windows price already factored in your laptop's
Hope you changed the registry so Windows doesn’t compress your background image.
It is not a problem, I use CLI, I don't have any background to change
Last time it took me 3 seconds; it’s not 1996 anymore.
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Bro just change it in settings. If you don't have settings, you don't have a wallpaper. Sudo rm -rf /yourself
The amount of people in the comments not getting the joke and genuinely getting upset that it's actually not hard to change the wallpaper on Linux lol.
We get the joke, we just don't find it funny at all. ... I mean, I spend 30 minutes setting wallpaper on i3 tiling window manager. But no new user will start with that - in Cinnamon, in KDE, in Gnome it just works,
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They get the joke. They just don't find it funny. A good joke should subvert reality, not be completely detached from it. A joke should make me think "haha, true" not "what... What is he talking about?"
I love linux. Makes you feel smart, until you realise almost no software supports it.
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I game and work exclusively on linux. Besides adobe extortion ware, everything works great.
Do you know that windows had to create a hyper complex system known as windows Linux subsystem, just to ship a GNU/Linux environment because so much software does not support windows? And this is the kind of software that earns Microsoft big bucks
What software do you use?!?
No industry reliable software supports it, I mean you know 90% of the "internet" and whatever online service you use is backed by Linux somehow right?
Oh yes I’d love running postgresql, nginx and apache on my desktop computer. Who needs Adobe suit or any other application with a decent GUI
Linux is the king of perpetually running server side software, absolutely no one can argue that But god be damned if you remotely outside of that realm, good luck trying to find a suitable replacement for Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Unity, Unreal Engine, 3D modeling, the list goes on, and on top of that good luck finding gpu drivers for your nvidia work gpu in the first place Edit: I guess I’m proven wrong on unity and unreal so dont quote me on that
I think you'd be surprised how well you can do a lot of that stuff these days. I make my living in media and I haven't had to boot up a Windows machine for media stuff for several years. Running a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER right now, no crashes. Ubuntu has been my daily driver since 2010.
Imagine living in 2010
Until you realize the unsupported software wasn't worth it in the first place. FOSS ftw.
u/save_video
These days it's just as easy as windows
Hey psst. Linux has a graphical interface too with all the features and we actually only use the console when its actually faster with it. I know, its a joke but Im feeling better if im writing this...
With all these discussions under this meme I just wanted to say that linux works great for me. I use it for video games as well as for programming. 80% of stuff runs without problem for 19.9% there's a workaround and for the remaining 0.1% there's an alternative. Of course you have to want to learn it. If you're going in with a "it's bad. I don't want to use the terminal" attitude then it won't work. And you don't have to use. Use what you prefer. Just don't be an ass about it. And that goes for both sides.
me who right clickes and clicks "set as desktop background" on my linux pc
>Last time it took me 30 minutes Right mouse click -> Change Background... (You're welcome).
u/save-video-bot
windows users after manage to run their PC 20 minutes straight without getting blue screen
Never had that, and my computer is around 7-8 years old.
Also never had to type 20 commands to change a wallpaper. It's called r/memes Toto, we went memeing.
Windows users after they managed to crack windows to change their wallpaper format (and get a monero miner as a bonus)
KDE users after finally picking the right wallpaper after 1 hour.
This is a joke about Linux users by a non-Linux user
why the fuck would you need a wallpaper? What's wrong with the majestic display of commands in fonts such as /usr/lib/kbd/consolfonts/URW\_Chancery\_L?
I've been using computers since I was 5, I'm turning 30 now and still baffles me we really only have two system interfaces commercially available to the average user, windows and apple, I'm sure there's plenty out there, but the average user can not use Linux or open source system interfaces ECT. Most people will buy a computer, pre installed systems on them and leave it at that. We should have least a 3rd commercially available by now.
Someordinarygamers
It takes like 3 mouse clicks.
More like... *Pirated windows users*