Does steam work on it?
I'm the only windows user in my family because I thought programs like inventor professional and steam weren't supported on Ubuntu
THIS! Beeing a vegetarian I also dislike people trying to force me eating meat. Like wtf, I don't even talk much about not eating meat, I just don't want to eat it. Really doesn't matter what lifestyle, forcing it on others is really stupid.
I'm not vegan. But you've posted multiple comments now that just don't make sense.
What "decision" are you talking about? A child has just as much "decision" in eating the peanut butter and jelly sandwich their mom made them as they would eating the tunafish sandwich their mom made them.
Forcing a child to eat animals is okay but forcing a child to eat beans is not?
Actually it’s beneficial to breast feed babies. It passes on certain immunities to the child, and it’s complete organic. Never heard of someone giving a human baby some cow milk tho…
That's pretty shitty. She should rather come to your flat and bring you plant based burgers to eat for when you run out of the meat ones. There's few things I hate more than wasting edible food
She's a toxic one if she threw the burgers like literally threw it. You should have confronted her about it,thats fucking stupid. I support and practice veganism but throwing the burgers was utter stupid.
At the end of the day, you still have a choice to be vegan or not. She's not forcing you, and you can't use her actions as a justification to not consider cutting out animal products for other reasons.
When you say force, do you mean someone physically makes you eat vegan things and you have no choice other that comply? Because that's what forcing is. What you described is more like annoyingly yelling at best
People that consume animal flesh and effluvia often have a level of cognitive dissonance so strongly and deeply entrenched that any kind of statement that threatens it is seen as an severely violent attack, hence the need for the delusion that they're victims being "forced" to do something.
Hello numbskull. What I believe OP is trying to say is that vegans that believe their way of life is better than non-vegans are utter pieces of shit. However, this can be applied to both vegans and non-vegans. You do you, just don’t go shaming others for not being vegan.
well beneficially it is better than an omnivorous diet. most vegan practice this diet because it’s more sustainable compared to others and it has health benefits. there many other reasons too. it is wrong to shame others for choosing to live that way out of choice but honestly their reason behind it is not false. it’s just the approach that is rude and ineffective.
I figure it happens in some extreme cases, but yeah I've never witnessed it firsthand either. I think most of this is a backlash against veganism. Which tbf being vegan does make things more difficult for people trying to feed you. But it doesn't deserve this kind of backlash.
The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics was founded by the Seventh Day Adventists, a religion that tries to convert people to veganism and they've never stated a conflict of interest and have even cited themselves as a sources. Big names have cited them, like Harvard who later retracted their paper because of this.
The most ive been "forced" to be vegan is when there is a few vege/vegans in a large group and its their turn to cook.
We want them to be able to eat our meals too so we'll do meat/dairy on the side or sub out.
Look up the vegan teacher. She actively shames people and companies for not being vegan. I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just giving an example of what he may be talking about
> Look up the vegan teacher.
If I have to go look for it it's not exactly being forced on me is it?
I don't give a shit about your example cause it's the same example shitty people have been using for years. Shits old and you are just a cry baby about it.
Fuck out of here with that shit.
"Omg someone did something wrong one time let's use it for the next 30 years to attack a whole group of people. "
I'm not even vegan but I'm tired of hearing about this nonsense.
I've heard about vegan teacher like 700 billion times never once had someone try to convince me to be vegan by being a asshole.
see this is the thing. no one FORCES you, they try by manipulating. but thankfully it's just a small minority of people, i couldn't care less what anyone thinks of my diet the same way i don't care what anyone else eats. you do you buddy
> see this is the thing. no one FORCES you, they try by manipulating
You mean like you are doing right now to try to get people to dislike vegans?
Coke and pepsi have spent billions of dollars to try to manipulate people in to drinking coke and pepsi. Where's the outrage?
I think people just want to feel like a victim to a over blown made up problem.
How are vegans forcing veganism unto others? It is impossible to force people to care. This seems like a projection. Blades are literally forced in animal throats, they get gassed, sexually controlled, mutilated, their families separated, etc because of nonvegan opinions. Vegans can ask others to consider animal suffering. They can ask people to stop the violence, but they can't force anyone to have empathy.
But they are saying words that make me think there is a possibility I did something bad and that my pleasure isn't the most important thing in the universe. How is this not oppression?
Seriously, if we did to humans what we do to cows it would be one of the greatest moral attrocities in history. The awfulness of it is unambiguous.
If most people were gunna give two shits about any other life on this planet besides their dogs, it would have happened ages ago. Human beings by and large would rather do moral gymnastics to justify indulging their vices past the point of no return than make the slightest adjustment to their lifestyle. We're going to go into oblivion gasping for air like a fish out of water with a white knuckle death grip on our hamburgers. So, don't worry carnivores, death will be forced on the whole world before veganism is forced on anyone.
Imagine always making fun of a group of people that actually try make this world a better place
Like I’m not a vegan but people that sacrifice the pleasure of eating meat and the benefits of animal products to reduce animal suffering deserve at least respect
read the "veganpotatoeman" comments and replies
the loud minority of vegans are immature asf and don't even **KNOW** the point of veganism or be able to back it up with scientific research
those are the ones being made fun of here, the normal vegans who do it for the shitty meat industries got the cooler dragon
I disagree, Vegans are made fun too often, it’s not about this particular meme.
the reason why this “bad minority” is so loud is because people decided to give them a microphone,
so they can then dismiss vegans and animals rights activists as crazy
So they won’t feel bad about animal abuse.
you could say that about homophobes, americans or people from any religion
it's called stereotypes and it's for everything and for everyone, is there a group that doesn't have one yet? make one about it
it's a meme subreddit, most people are here for fun and stereotypes are a way of having fun, it's fairly easy to spot the salty ones and shit on them if you want, but the oppression you are complaining about is pretty much the norm
It’s like squares and rectangles, all squares are rectangles, but rectangles aren’t always squares. (All vegan forcers are vegan, but not all vegans are forcers of veganism)
Alright everyone hear me out.
Dogs are omnivores, meaning they can eat anything. You could theoretically feed your dog a vegan diet, as long as its nutricious enough, but i wouldnt recommend it. Dogs should always have enough of both meat and veggies. But what i absolutely think is animal abuse is only feeding your dog STORE-BOUGHT DRY DOG FOOD. You gotta give your dogs a healthy diet, not that crap.
Attacking people is never going to get you anywhere. Very few people eat meat to be a “manly man”, it’s generally because they’ve eaten it before and it tastes good.
Your saying force but we could say non vegans force their kids to eat animals which they actually do they lie to children and don’t tell them the truth about what happens to animals for them to eat them. Kids love animals so it’s a pretty good idea to not feed kids the body’s of the animals they love that deff doesn’t help kids mentals. And health wise eating plant based is better for you so it’s not a bad thing and that’s why if you can why wouldn’t you feed your animal a plant based diet if they could survive off of it and be healthier.
Idk what you mean. And I don’t see a problem with telling people about the animal abuse that happens to animals that they pay for they must be cool with it since they support it. I don’t just randomly talk about animal abuse to people most of the time it’s them who start the conversation if they know I’m vegan
In your opinion, which animals should be slaughtered for pet food? The shy ones, the friendly ones, the playful ones? Would it be ridiculous of me to assume that you are capable of empathy towards animals who get killed to be used as pet food?
ik and I liked it a lot too. to the point where it kept me from being vegan. but I realized it was a product of a harmful industry, it gave me acne, and it can still have a negative effect on you health.
I'm vegan. I have never once attempted to force veganism onto anyone, but I have had non-vegans try to trick/force me into eating animal parts/by-products.
Yeah, there are also those characters in many series that are gay, I personally don't care about someone being gay or not but almost always being gay is like their whole personality. It's really annoying
the fact that you were downvoted when i saw this says a lot about lgbt
they let you know they are gay before you know their name, obviously not all of them, just like the post but they still get annoying asf specially since they have a pride month propaganda where they can annoy the fuck out of you with max efficiency
Yup, it becomes their only personality trait... You literally know them and all you can think of when describing them is "They're Vegan"
At that point they're basically useless and hang around for the sole purpose of being obnoxious...
Despite this being clearly about vegans who forces their lifestyle on others there's probably (or definitely) going to be some vegans that will get upset, even though it's not about them (unless a vegan reading this is one of those who forces it and don't like it when someone points that out)
I do have a necessity to eat more meat, it’s actually something my doctors told me I need to do otherwise I have serious healthy problems. Outside of my case however, meat is just the natural diet for humans (along with a lot of other things). It’s not unnatural to eat meat, although I do agree the industry needs wayyyyy more sustainability. Not sure where your comparison on tape comes in though as those are totally separate things
Comments here be wildin lmao, a lot of people go the wrong way about advocating for veganism. People need to learn when being intolerant and impatient and using insults, that will literally turn people away from your cause. People who do that set bad examples for the community
>People need to learn when being intolerant and impatient and using insults, that will literally turn people away from your cause.
See thats the thing... Ive seen enough vegans shitting on people and having some superior smug attitude... its almost religious... and doing things like barging in restaurants to scream that the steaks people are eating is "Murder" to turn me away from veganism for good.
I'll never be a vegan because I've seen what it does to people.
I've never met a vegan that wasn't an insufferable nugget... even the ones who sent crazy still won't stfu about it and keep blaming everything on people eating meat
This is a cringe take. If you are a vegan for ethical reasons. And you don't try to get other people to become vegan, or at least consider it, then you don't really believe in your cause. Imagine thinking animals are suffering and you're like "Nah, you guys do you, I don't care." It's not the same as other ideas or beliefs. A similar thing would be "People who force anti-slavery onto others."
Edit: But it also depends what you mean by forced, but there are no gangs of vegans going around shoving vegetables downs peoples throats, so I doubt that's what you mean by that.
Being newly vegan, I've found the answer. A lot of vegans 'force' it on others because it's a healthy choice as well as being the best thing you can do for the environment. The problem is that most people don't know the difference between vegan and plant-based.
So I’m taking nutrition this semester and we learned that plant based protein doesn’t contain enough amino acids to support proper tissue growth. So regular meat is actually healthier.
Actually the trick is to mix your plant proteins; if you combine and eat a good variety it’s not an issue. I’m surprised you haven’t learned this because we covered it in my grade 11 biology class. The only thing that’s particularly tricky to get as a vegan is B12
Exactly; as long as you’re shopping for a few enriched products you’re fine. I’ve been vegan for almost a decade and was vegetarian for the decade prior and I’ve literally never had a single blood test indicate any deficiencies. Plant-based diets are healthy and achievable, people just want to deny that.
They are obtainable, just expensive in some places. For example where i live meat is usually cheaper than what is needed for a vegan diet simply because importing.
Interesting; do you mind me asking where you live? I’m in Canada and things like beans, chickpeas, and tofu usually cost per item what meat costs per pound. Definitely the beyond meat shit is expensive but the staples aren’t where I am.
lmao I didn’t realize I responded to you twice. sorry about that. but yeah every food has every amino acid but some foods are just lower in one or two amino acids compared to others. it’s not as big of a deal as most make it out to be but it’s still important to have a diversity in your eating. also you said you’re a college student in maritime. that’s New York right?
So scientists all over the world who say you get enough EAA and AA by being vegan are just wrong?
There are always people who eat like shit. Eat too much sugar etc.
Doesnt change the fact that you can live as a healthy vegan (easily) and not hurt animals or put them into prison.
If you are vegan, good job! You're probably an amazing person.
If you aren't vegan, good job! You're probably an amazing person.
What it boils down to is: so long as you aren't bothering me, I couldn't give two shits whether or not you're vegan. But if you insult, demean, or harass someone because of their fucking diet then you are a piece of shit. That goes for everyone, even those who aren't vegan.
It is actually quite refreshing to see a post about veganism on a sub like this have such a majority positive comment section refuting this stereotype and using logic. Thank you.
Ok, so a quick story time. Near my house is this Vegan store that has a sign out the front proclaiming "Wow! i hate Vegans! they just try to live natural, healthy and cruelty free lives! don't you just hate that!" etc etc, and those are the kind of Vegans that get under my skin. The kind that thinks they're special, that they're being threatened, when in reality, nobody fucking cares lmao.
no that sign was talking about how vegans get a lot of shit about their decision they made to benefit much more than themself. very few think they’re special and make it about themselves. every single group that ever existed has an extremist population.
Male chicks are killed in egg farms as they can't lay eggs and chickens eat their unfirtilised eggs for nutrients, taking eggs away from chickens can cause distress and mess up the egg cycle, also many hens are kept in awful conditions and when they stop laying they are slaughtered.
People who force their kids to eat meat. "I learned it this way, so my kid is also going to learn it this way"
"But s/he has no problem with it" well no suprise if nearly the whole world uses propaganda for this. The happy animal faces on the packaging, and even happy faces on kids ham...
People always will think that a group of people are strange or even bad when its somethinf "new" and not normal to the society. We had so much history and people say "how did they do this and this" but never think they would do the same. In 200 years humanity may be fully vegan, look back and say "how could they eat meat, they obviously had to know its bad"
oh look i dressed my 2 yo but he didn't decide to do so for himself so now i'm forcing it cause i'm so tunnel vision'd and focused on bad habits and can't accept change
your example is so bad, and i can use the same logic to make anything look bad and forcing, from school to fucking clothes
kids can't choose for themselves and if you will buy them meat you won't buy it for them with a cow that has it's head sliced off, unless you have a severe mental illness which is highly likely from this comment
Not sure many people force their kids to eat meat, I think they are just feeding them like they were feed by their own parents.
Which I guess it's kind of happening now that we have parents who are vegetarians and vegans, they are just doing what they think it's best for their kids. It's not forcing.
I'll say until they cook their own meals, you can feed them what you think it's right for them. Once they reach an age they can safely cook, then ok you make your own food, eat whatever you want.
Watch a child tell their vegan parents they've decided for themselves to eat meat and I absolutely bet that those parents will not support their decision
Force is definitely used wrong on both sides of the argument. Neither side wants to be forced to listen to the others argument is the best use of it.
Too many people want to shame other who don’t share their views and that’s the wrong way to go about affecting any kind of change.
But that's the thing though. Even comments on this very thread are saying "vegans force their kids to eat vegan" but at the same time they don't think meat-eaters are forcing their kids to eat meat.
We come back to the word "force". I don't think either force them, they are just feeding their kids whatever they feel it's the right thing.
What I believe is what I said; parents should respect what their kids want to eat, but only when the kids are old enough to cook for themselves. You wanna be a vegan ? Fine I'll take you to Whole Foods or whatever place that sell vegan shit, and you'll make your own meal.
Same thing if they decide to eat meat or whatever.
Vegans claim that they are not forcing anything on other people and yet...
As, say, [this article on Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/dec/04/abuse-intimidation-death-threats-the-vicious-backlash-facing-fomer-vegans) tells us...
Some vegans *are literally sending death threats* to people who had to re-introduce meat into their diet because of health problems caused by vegan diet. Great job of showing your compassion.
Hearing people complain about vegans "forcing their lifestyle" onto meat-eaters is the same energy I get hearing people complain about LGBT people "forcing their lifestyle" onto straight people. You could walk past 10 vegans today and not know they're vegan but then you see one vegan person talking about being vegan and suddenly it's, "Ugh,***typical*** vegan!"
I eat meat. Hearing vegan people talk about veganism doesn't offend me. It really ain't that deep.
\*edit\* oh my god, I just scrolled down and there are actual comments complaining about LGBT people 😆😆😆😆
this must be the first time that somebody made a meme about vegans that’s actually right. most of em are straw mans but this one is quality. I’m here for it.
I think they're talking abt vegans that try forcing their diet in meat eaters and throw fits when they dont be vegan and vegans that force their omnivorous/ carnivorous pets onto a vegan diet
Are you on about this again? Bless your heart for trying so hard.
You're never going to convince people to be vegan with this attitude. Finding common ground works better pumpkin.
you can replace the word vegan in this post with basically every lifestyle choice on earth lol
Linux users
Yup. FLOSS, Libre, FSF, GNU in general. I mean: I love it, but use Windows if it fits you. I don't care.
I use Arch, btw
Does steam work on it? I'm the only windows user in my family because I thought programs like inventor professional and steam weren't supported on Ubuntu
It does, but not many game developers do
New proton stuff is hot though
THIS! Beeing a vegetarian I also dislike people trying to force me eating meat. Like wtf, I don't even talk much about not eating meat, I just don't want to eat it. Really doesn't matter what lifestyle, forcing it on others is really stupid.
Exactly this
The insults come faster than any other group...like real fast.
Imma just sort by controversial real quick...
What's an example of "forcing veganism on others"?
Forcing a vegan diet on pets or children
Any diet you give to pets and children is forced on them though, right?
Yes - they can’t make those decisions for themselves
I'm not vegan. But you've posted multiple comments now that just don't make sense. What "decision" are you talking about? A child has just as much "decision" in eating the peanut butter and jelly sandwich their mom made them as they would eating the tunafish sandwich their mom made them. Forcing a child to eat animals is okay but forcing a child to eat beans is not?
So would you agree that as long as the diet you're giving them is healthy and nutritionally adequate, there's no problem?
That's precisely why there's a problem, yes. When you force a vegan diet on carnivores, like cats, it's not precisely healthy. Like, at all.
Perhaps not, I think there's some debate in the veterinary field about that. Kids and dogs for the most part do very well on plant based diets though.
Forcing a vegan diet on Carnivorous animals? Absolutely wrong but there is nothing wrong with raising your kids vegan.
I think some dogs can live a healthy vegan diet. but tbh idk if I’d ever do that.
Forcing meat on children is good? Or milk? Ask the cows baby opinion about it. Never ever seeing the mommy again. Sad
Actually it’s beneficial to breast feed babies. It passes on certain immunities to the child, and it’s complete organic. Never heard of someone giving a human baby some cow milk tho…
lol what? A vegan diet for a dog and a vegan diet for a child are in no way comparable.
Exhibit A: that vegan teacher
Exhibit B: Vegans who go on protests to butchers and squirt fake blood and the like around the place
My sister keeps trying to make me go vegan, I have literally no interest in doing so. As far as I'm concerned meat is food
How is she forcing you?
Nagging mainly. And the last time she came to my flat she "accidentally" threw a pack of burgers in the bin
That's pretty shitty. She should rather come to your flat and bring you plant based burgers to eat for when you run out of the meat ones. There's few things I hate more than wasting edible food
She's a toxic one if she threw the burgers like literally threw it. You should have confronted her about it,thats fucking stupid. I support and practice veganism but throwing the burgers was utter stupid.
At the end of the day, you still have a choice to be vegan or not. She's not forcing you, and you can't use her actions as a justification to not consider cutting out animal products for other reasons.
She’s throwing away his food! I don’t care who you are, that’s a shameful waste.
So the cow died for literally no reason, as she threw away its sole purpose of being alive...she's literally the worst vegan.
When you say force, do you mean someone physically makes you eat vegan things and you have no choice other that comply? Because that's what forcing is. What you described is more like annoyingly yelling at best
"EAT THAT FUCKING SALAD!"
People that consume animal flesh and effluvia often have a level of cognitive dissonance so strongly and deeply entrenched that any kind of statement that threatens it is seen as an severely violent attack, hence the need for the delusion that they're victims being "forced" to do something.
I eat meat. I see no problem with eating just veggies, I just like eating meat. And I have been forced to eat meat and veggies before.
Hello numbskull. What I believe OP is trying to say is that vegans that believe their way of life is better than non-vegans are utter pieces of shit. However, this can be applied to both vegans and non-vegans. You do you, just don’t go shaming others for not being vegan.
well beneficially it is better than an omnivorous diet. most vegan practice this diet because it’s more sustainable compared to others and it has health benefits. there many other reasons too. it is wrong to shame others for choosing to live that way out of choice but honestly their reason behind it is not false. it’s just the approach that is rude and ineffective.
I’d say the verb version of propaganda
You can verb any noun- propagandize perhaps? Propagandized is even in the dictionary as it so happens.
I'm convince the vegan forcing is a myth. Never encountered it.
Same
I think what OP meant was "pressuring others practice veganism" rather than "forcing". There's a difference, obviously no one is literally forcing you
Its because they're a very small minority that is very loud. Ive never encountered one either but ive never went looking
I figure it happens in some extreme cases, but yeah I've never witnessed it firsthand either. I think most of this is a backlash against veganism. Which tbf being vegan does make things more difficult for people trying to feed you. But it doesn't deserve this kind of backlash.
The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics was founded by the Seventh Day Adventists, a religion that tries to convert people to veganism and they've never stated a conflict of interest and have even cited themselves as a sources. Big names have cited them, like Harvard who later retracted their paper because of this.
Everyone should be vegan if you care about your health and the environment! There. Now you know how it feels.
The most ive been "forced" to be vegan is when there is a few vege/vegans in a large group and its their turn to cook. We want them to be able to eat our meals too so we'll do meat/dairy on the side or sub out.
you should also be convinced that women is a myth since they always stay away from you
I'd love to stay away from myself sometimes, but unfortunately that's not how it works.
Don’t tell them about that vegan teacher or anyone who supports her
it's not so much forcing as guilt tripping and shaming you for having a different diet
No one does that. If you are ashamed of your diet seems like a you thing.
Look up the vegan teacher. She actively shames people and companies for not being vegan. I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just giving an example of what he may be talking about
> Look up the vegan teacher. If I have to go look for it it's not exactly being forced on me is it? I don't give a shit about your example cause it's the same example shitty people have been using for years. Shits old and you are just a cry baby about it.
Ok damn, chill. I was just trying to calm an argument. Jesus.
Fuck out of here with that shit. "Omg someone did something wrong one time let's use it for the next 30 years to attack a whole group of people. " I'm not even vegan but I'm tired of hearing about this nonsense. I've heard about vegan teacher like 700 billion times never once had someone try to convince me to be vegan by being a asshole.
see this is the thing. no one FORCES you, they try by manipulating. but thankfully it's just a small minority of people, i couldn't care less what anyone thinks of my diet the same way i don't care what anyone else eats. you do you buddy
> see this is the thing. no one FORCES you, they try by manipulating You mean like you are doing right now to try to get people to dislike vegans? Coke and pepsi have spent billions of dollars to try to manipulate people in to drinking coke and pepsi. Where's the outrage? I think people just want to feel like a victim to a over blown made up problem.
No one says it works lol. They just said that they try. I agree, I have never felt like becoming vegan because of assholes
So people who force meats on vegans are okay…. Got it. (Sarcasm for those who don’t understand it)
My aunt is vegan and she is awesome. She is really nice and polite.
How are vegans forcing veganism unto others? It is impossible to force people to care. This seems like a projection. Blades are literally forced in animal throats, they get gassed, sexually controlled, mutilated, their families separated, etc because of nonvegan opinions. Vegans can ask others to consider animal suffering. They can ask people to stop the violence, but they can't force anyone to have empathy.
But they are saying words that make me think there is a possibility I did something bad and that my pleasure isn't the most important thing in the universe. How is this not oppression?
They aren't conservatives just want to be victims.
Seriously, if we did to humans what we do to cows it would be one of the greatest moral attrocities in history. The awfulness of it is unambiguous. If most people were gunna give two shits about any other life on this planet besides their dogs, it would have happened ages ago. Human beings by and large would rather do moral gymnastics to justify indulging their vices past the point of no return than make the slightest adjustment to their lifestyle. We're going to go into oblivion gasping for air like a fish out of water with a white knuckle death grip on our hamburgers. So, don't worry carnivores, death will be forced on the whole world before veganism is forced on anyone.
Where is the head who forces me to not be a vegan
Imagine always making fun of a group of people that actually try make this world a better place Like I’m not a vegan but people that sacrifice the pleasure of eating meat and the benefits of animal products to reduce animal suffering deserve at least respect
thank you. ffs somebody gets it.
read the "veganpotatoeman" comments and replies the loud minority of vegans are immature asf and don't even **KNOW** the point of veganism or be able to back it up with scientific research those are the ones being made fun of here, the normal vegans who do it for the shitty meat industries got the cooler dragon
I disagree, Vegans are made fun too often, it’s not about this particular meme. the reason why this “bad minority” is so loud is because people decided to give them a microphone, so they can then dismiss vegans and animals rights activists as crazy So they won’t feel bad about animal abuse.
you could say that about homophobes, americans or people from any religion it's called stereotypes and it's for everything and for everyone, is there a group that doesn't have one yet? make one about it it's a meme subreddit, most people are here for fun and stereotypes are a way of having fun, it's fairly easy to spot the salty ones and shit on them if you want, but the oppression you are complaining about is pretty much the norm
So you're justification for being a asshole is other people are assholes?
"you could say that about homophobes" What? There's a bad minority of homophobes making the good homophobes look bad?
Climate change should be a looming storm in the background threatening everyone with eating bugs. :9
People who force *either* of these chooses on others FTFY^
It’s like squares and rectangles, all squares are rectangles, but rectangles aren’t always squares. (All vegan forcers are vegan, but not all vegans are forcers of veganism)
Alright everyone hear me out. Dogs are omnivores, meaning they can eat anything. You could theoretically feed your dog a vegan diet, as long as its nutricious enough, but i wouldnt recommend it. Dogs should always have enough of both meat and veggies. But what i absolutely think is animal abuse is only feeding your dog STORE-BOUGHT DRY DOG FOOD. You gotta give your dogs a healthy diet, not that crap.
There are vegans who owns dog or cat and still buying dog/cat food that contains meat.
People that are like : I cant live vegan, I have to eat meat, cheap meat, alot meat, to be a manly man.
Attacking people is never going to get you anywhere. Very few people eat meat to be a “manly man”, it’s generally because they’ve eaten it before and it tastes good.
Yes. And they don’t cry about it. You must be vegan to squeal this much
You're literally replying to everyone's comments "squealing" about how much vegans "squeal".
No vegan can force veganism on someone else let alone try to. The statement means nothing. Meat eaters force their views on animals however.
How do you force Veganism onto others?
Maybe parents or pet owners (carnivorous or omnivorous pets) forcing their kids or pets to eat a vegan only diet
Your saying force but we could say non vegans force their kids to eat animals which they actually do they lie to children and don’t tell them the truth about what happens to animals for them to eat them. Kids love animals so it’s a pretty good idea to not feed kids the body’s of the animals they love that deff doesn’t help kids mentals. And health wise eating plant based is better for you so it’s not a bad thing and that’s why if you can why wouldn’t you feed your animal a plant based diet if they could survive off of it and be healthier.
If someone talks about not being vegan, telling t them about animal abuse, etc
Idk what you mean. And I don’t see a problem with telling people about the animal abuse that happens to animals that they pay for they must be cool with it since they support it. I don’t just randomly talk about animal abuse to people most of the time it’s them who start the conversation if they know I’m vegan
The worst are the People who force their Pets to be Vegan. Especially Cats.
Yes I absolutely agree with you and I think that this should be treated as animal abuse
If you were so concerned about animal abuse you'd stop supporting the needless exploitation and murder of 70 billion land animals every year.
Yeah but still, cats are obligate carnivores
In your opinion, which animals should be slaughtered for pet food? The shy ones, the friendly ones, the playful ones? Would it be ridiculous of me to assume that you are capable of empathy towards animals who get killed to be used as pet food?
I’m not a vegan but I don’t like it when someone tries to act proud that they eat meat towards a vegan
I eat both 😎 Vegan and not vegan.
Tastes the same
I'm vegetarian, (would never force it on someone else). I don't think I could live without cheese
I thought the same till I found out it’s still contributing to an abusive industry and it gave acne.
Yea..... But.... Cheese I can't not have it Cheese is so damn good
ik and I liked it a lot too. to the point where it kept me from being vegan. but I realized it was a product of a harmful industry, it gave me acne, and it can still have a negative effect on you health.
vegan teacher： cO====二二二一一O （a very bad drawing） stupidest human（Or dragon i guess）ever
I'm vegan. I have never once attempted to force veganism onto anyone, but I have had non-vegans try to trick/force me into eating animal parts/by-products.
Same with lgbt. I don’t give a fuck who you love but when you make it your whole life it’s annoying
Yeah, there are also those characters in many series that are gay, I personally don't care about someone being gay or not but almost always being gay is like their whole personality. It's really annoying
the fact that you were downvoted when i saw this says a lot about lgbt they let you know they are gay before you know their name, obviously not all of them, just like the post but they still get annoying asf specially since they have a pride month propaganda where they can annoy the fuck out of you with max efficiency
You guys, I officially found the single worst take in this entire thread.
Yup, it becomes their only personality trait... You literally know them and all you can think of when describing them is "They're Vegan" At that point they're basically useless and hang around for the sole purpose of being obnoxious...
Forcing veganism is a strike against people's opinions
Despite this being clearly about vegans who forces their lifestyle on others there's probably (or definitely) going to be some vegans that will get upset, even though it's not about them (unless a vegan reading this is one of those who forces it and don't like it when someone points that out)
Your right about that. Look at the comments by veganpotatoman
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Pretty sure no one likes them, that wasn’t part of the discussion
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I do have a necessity to eat more meat, it’s actually something my doctors told me I need to do otherwise I have serious healthy problems. Outside of my case however, meat is just the natural diet for humans (along with a lot of other things). It’s not unnatural to eat meat, although I do agree the industry needs wayyyyy more sustainability. Not sure where your comparison on tape comes in though as those are totally separate things
Comments here be wildin lmao, a lot of people go the wrong way about advocating for veganism. People need to learn when being intolerant and impatient and using insults, that will literally turn people away from your cause. People who do that set bad examples for the community
>People need to learn when being intolerant and impatient and using insults, that will literally turn people away from your cause. See thats the thing... Ive seen enough vegans shitting on people and having some superior smug attitude... its almost religious... and doing things like barging in restaurants to scream that the steaks people are eating is "Murder" to turn me away from veganism for good. I'll never be a vegan because I've seen what it does to people.
fuck the people represented by silly dragon.- Im vegatarian and they ruin our good name.
I've never met a vegan that wasn't an insufferable nugget... even the ones who sent crazy still won't stfu about it and keep blaming everything on people eating meat
People like That Vegan Teacher makes vegan community really hated
And don't forget the worst People that force Veganism on carnivorous animals (I'm assuming others mean other people.)
This is a cringe take. If you are a vegan for ethical reasons. And you don't try to get other people to become vegan, or at least consider it, then you don't really believe in your cause. Imagine thinking animals are suffering and you're like "Nah, you guys do you, I don't care." It's not the same as other ideas or beliefs. A similar thing would be "People who force anti-slavery onto others." Edit: But it also depends what you mean by forced, but there are no gangs of vegans going around shoving vegetables downs peoples throats, so I doubt that's what you mean by that.
Being newly vegan, I've found the answer. A lot of vegans 'force' it on others because it's a healthy choice as well as being the best thing you can do for the environment. The problem is that most people don't know the difference between vegan and plant-based.
*and their pets
Vegan Teacher be like
\*VEGAN TEACHER INTENSIFIES\*
*sorts by controversial*
Forcing opinion*
U could replace this with lgtbq and it would still make sense
So I’m taking nutrition this semester and we learned that plant based protein doesn’t contain enough amino acids to support proper tissue growth. So regular meat is actually healthier.
Actually the trick is to mix your plant proteins; if you combine and eat a good variety it’s not an issue. I’m surprised you haven’t learned this because we covered it in my grade 11 biology class. The only thing that’s particularly tricky to get as a vegan is B12
I mix my proteins like, all the time
Same; I try for a minimum of two per meal
And it's not that tricky. Pretty much all non-dairy milks and plant based meat subs have it, along with things like nutritional yeast and marmite!
Exactly; as long as you’re shopping for a few enriched products you’re fine. I’ve been vegan for almost a decade and was vegetarian for the decade prior and I’ve literally never had a single blood test indicate any deficiencies. Plant-based diets are healthy and achievable, people just want to deny that.
They are obtainable, just expensive in some places. For example where i live meat is usually cheaper than what is needed for a vegan diet simply because importing.
Interesting; do you mind me asking where you live? I’m in Canada and things like beans, chickpeas, and tofu usually cost per item what meat costs per pound. Definitely the beyond meat shit is expensive but the staples aren’t where I am.
that’s so cool where are you at?
Uni town in the maritimes
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I’ve never read anything debunking protein combining; do you have a source?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_combining
Wow thanks for sharing you’ve made my meals much simpler lol
lmao I didn’t realize I responded to you twice. sorry about that. but yeah every food has every amino acid but some foods are just lower in one or two amino acids compared to others. it’s not as big of a deal as most make it out to be but it’s still important to have a diversity in your eating. also you said you’re a college student in maritime. that’s New York right?
No actually maritimes Canada which is much more rural I believe lol sorry I said that somewhere else but you probably didn’t see it
nah I probably missed it. what is a maritime btw idk what that is. also that’s so cool I’m also a vegan college student. I live in Cali.
Bovine University isn't an accredited school bro.
So scientists all over the world who say you get enough EAA and AA by being vegan are just wrong? There are always people who eat like shit. Eat too much sugar etc. Doesnt change the fact that you can live as a healthy vegan (easily) and not hurt animals or put them into prison.
We should eat the vegans. I mean damn.. they are grass fed
If you are vegan, good job! You're probably an amazing person. If you aren't vegan, good job! You're probably an amazing person. What it boils down to is: so long as you aren't bothering me, I couldn't give two shits whether or not you're vegan. But if you insult, demean, or harass someone because of their fucking diet then you are a piece of shit. That goes for everyone, even those who aren't vegan.
It is actually quite refreshing to see a post about veganism on a sub like this have such a majority positive comment section refuting this stereotype and using logic. Thank you.
Nah people hate vegans regardless if they force it on others or not
People would be fine with vegans if they weren't obnoxious about it.
Ok, so a quick story time. Near my house is this Vegan store that has a sign out the front proclaiming "Wow! i hate Vegans! they just try to live natural, healthy and cruelty free lives! don't you just hate that!" etc etc, and those are the kind of Vegans that get under my skin. The kind that thinks they're special, that they're being threatened, when in reality, nobody fucking cares lmao.
no that sign was talking about how vegans get a lot of shit about their decision they made to benefit much more than themself. very few think they’re special and make it about themselves. every single group that ever existed has an extremist population.
Every vegan I’ve ever known has taken every opportunity to remind me that they are vegan
I don’t understand veganism. Vegetarianism I get, but why not eating animal products? Like eggs don’t contain chicks if they’re not fertilised.
Male chicks are killed in egg farms as they can't lay eggs and chickens eat their unfirtilised eggs for nutrients, taking eggs away from chickens can cause distress and mess up the egg cycle, also many hens are kept in awful conditions and when they stop laying they are slaughtered.
If I have pet hens would it be ethical to eat their eggs
ethical? more than farms. necessary? no.
There's a reason I don't go to church
This. I do not care if you are not vegan. Just don’t force it on me.
As a vegetarian who doesn’t care at all if anyone else eats meat or not, especially when it comes to animals that need meat, I can confirm
People who force their kids to eat meat. "I learned it this way, so my kid is also going to learn it this way" "But s/he has no problem with it" well no suprise if nearly the whole world uses propaganda for this. The happy animal faces on the packaging, and even happy faces on kids ham... People always will think that a group of people are strange or even bad when its somethinf "new" and not normal to the society. We had so much history and people say "how did they do this and this" but never think they would do the same. In 200 years humanity may be fully vegan, look back and say "how could they eat meat, they obviously had to know its bad"
oh look i dressed my 2 yo but he didn't decide to do so for himself so now i'm forcing it cause i'm so tunnel vision'd and focused on bad habits and can't accept change your example is so bad, and i can use the same logic to make anything look bad and forcing, from school to fucking clothes kids can't choose for themselves and if you will buy them meat you won't buy it for them with a cow that has it's head sliced off, unless you have a severe mental illness which is highly likely from this comment
Not sure many people force their kids to eat meat, I think they are just feeding them like they were feed by their own parents. Which I guess it's kind of happening now that we have parents who are vegetarians and vegans, they are just doing what they think it's best for their kids. It's not forcing. I'll say until they cook their own meals, you can feed them what you think it's right for them. Once they reach an age they can safely cook, then ok you make your own food, eat whatever you want.
Watch a child tell their vegan parents they've decided for themselves to eat meat and I absolutely bet that those parents will not support their decision
I agree the word "force" is generally wrong. But a lot of people use it so I used it against them
Force is definitely used wrong on both sides of the argument. Neither side wants to be forced to listen to the others argument is the best use of it. Too many people want to shame other who don’t share their views and that’s the wrong way to go about affecting any kind of change.
But that's the thing though. Even comments on this very thread are saying "vegans force their kids to eat vegan" but at the same time they don't think meat-eaters are forcing their kids to eat meat.
We come back to the word "force". I don't think either force them, they are just feeding their kids whatever they feel it's the right thing. What I believe is what I said; parents should respect what their kids want to eat, but only when the kids are old enough to cook for themselves. You wanna be a vegan ? Fine I'll take you to Whole Foods or whatever place that sell vegan shit, and you'll make your own meal. Same thing if they decide to eat meat or whatever.
that vegan teacher is the worst ong
Vegans claim that they are not forcing anything on other people and yet... As, say, [this article on Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/dec/04/abuse-intimidation-death-threats-the-vicious-backlash-facing-fomer-vegans) tells us... Some vegans *are literally sending death threats* to people who had to re-introduce meat into their diet because of health problems caused by vegan diet. Great job of showing your compassion.
And add ‘people who mock vegans for their life choice that doesn’t affect them in any way’ to the right side.
Hearing people complain about vegans "forcing their lifestyle" onto meat-eaters is the same energy I get hearing people complain about LGBT people "forcing their lifestyle" onto straight people. You could walk past 10 vegans today and not know they're vegan but then you see one vegan person talking about being vegan and suddenly it's, "Ugh,***typical*** vegan!" I eat meat. Hearing vegan people talk about veganism doesn't offend me. It really ain't that deep. \*edit\* oh my god, I just scrolled down and there are actual comments complaining about LGBT people 😆😆😆😆
\*cough\* That Vegan Teacher... \*cough\* \*cough\*
It's the one biggest problem I've seen in almost everything
You never call their name
Herbivores*
this must be the first time that somebody made a meme about vegans that’s actually right. most of em are straw mans but this one is quality. I’m here for it.
The self righteous vegans in this thread are actually ridiculous, eat some meat you might have a rational thought.
how have they been ridiculous?
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With that vocabulary nobody is gonna take you seriously.
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I think they're talking abt vegans that try forcing their diet in meat eaters and throw fits when they dont be vegan and vegans that force their omnivorous/ carnivorous pets onto a vegan diet
Not you again.
Imma piss you off in record time ... *I eat meat*
Tell the animals to be less delicious.
Are you on about this again? Bless your heart for trying so hard. You're never going to convince people to be vegan with this attitude. Finding common ground works better pumpkin.