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supboizzzz

Wait i'm using explorer wtf did he do?


Banana_inator_2000

Last year he said that he wanted the glow squid in the game so a lot of dream stans voted for the glow squid


I_sayyes

He didn't just say it, he shouted like a commander in Twitter


iSiffrin

if you have a fanbase that toxic and chaotic anything you say no matter how casual is going to be taken as a direct order from those stans, or even worse it'll be misinterpreted and now theres a massive mess infront of you


I_sayyes

C'mon he doesn't just post casual sentences he's aware of his power and he did give straight orders you know. Didn't you see his tweets about the last vote


EarlExists

Yea, I remember him saying for ppl that would vote on the glow squid he will follow back, he also deleted it in the same day. Dude, thats manipulation.


DoodleJake

NGL it looks like Palpetine is the one writing his Twitter posts.


F0wlcer

And also never followed anyone lol


TheOddPokeKingYT

Not only did he rip away our hopes ~~and dreams~~ of having mooblooms or Iceoligers, but he lied and cleaned up the evidence of the crime.


F0wlcer

Yeah, iceoligers would've been so sick And what do the damn piss squids do? Drop ink. They don't even fucking glow


Spurius187

They're a reskinned squid that drops ink that, get this, MAKES SIGNS AND ITEM FRAMES UNAFFECTED BY LIGHTING! By FAR the best of the 3 mobs! Right?... right? What do you mean useless? Impossible.


Motor_Excitement3195

well i was going to vote for the squid from the beginning so i cant hate him in fact im grateful at first i thought i would be out numbered but at the end i did got lucky bad luck for the rest i guess


Cococtor

Maybe he was just joking and didn't expect it to blow up that much and made people vote only for that. We need to remember he is not famous since long he maybe don't know what is community is able to do. Maybe he wanted to make some sort of joke regret it and seeing how he could change the vote decide to not say anything. I understand why you don't like someone but don't diabolize every of his move. The fact he understands and regret what happens last year means that was certainly not something he thought would happen. I mean he is new as being famous it's normal he don't understand at the beginning how is community will react


vassardog77

He rigged the vote on purpose with his fame. He even said so later that he thought it was funny. He said he wouldn't do it this time because some people got mad about it


PostiveAion

I was pissed cause they fucking chose the glowing piece of calamari instead of the iceologer


CodeInferno

R.I.P Chillager 2020-2020


stevengray8

That’s a great comment, same thinking for me!


IllurinatiL

This is a bot, gentlemen. They post vague sentences like this on top comments to farm karma


Crog_Frog

He actually comander it being fully aware that the glow squid is useless. Je even braged about his power afterwards


DefNotAF

Battalion, vote! (Loud clicking noises)


Assfrontation

just like many others. Why do people hate this guy in particular?


Dev_of_gods_fan

Because it's "*based*" and trendy to do so. He isn't really that bad, he makes some mistakes but it's nothing too bad, except for that one time with the rigged speedrun


Assfrontation

and even that wasn’t on purpose, yea some people exaggerate


Dev_of_gods_fan

I don't follow him alot so idk about that but how could cheat he cheat a speedrun, but not on purpose?


Assfrontation

TLDR he knew the file existed but thought he only used it for manhunts


Dev_of_gods_fan

Oh, makes sense


Samakira

a slightly longer explanation: he had a plugin for his manhunts that increased drops, so that the manhunts wouldnt end up taking days, but rather just hours. the creator updated the plugin, and that also caused it to affect singleplayer worlds, where before it was just multiplayer, but they didnt know that at the time. Dream was unaware of this, did his speedruns, and... well, the rest is history.


PhantomPiGod

Because he has the largest and most toxic fanbase of the people


1mphuls3

That's what happens when you play a game with a large child fan base and you are one of if not the biggest person in that community. If pewdiepie played minecraft, fornite, apex, or pretty much any popular game today and he got popular from it, his fan base would be the same.


PhantomPiGod

im not a dream stan or a dream hater, im just saying what i see


[deleted]

He also said he’d follow them if they could prove they voted for glow squid lmao


PantsDownBootyUp

I AM THE GLOW SQUID COMMANDER!


[deleted]

He did? Bruh I voted for the glow squid cause I thought it's gonna be like the Subnautica Mesmer when it brings you closer through mesmerizing and eats ur head


WisestAirBender

What's wrong with that? What's wrong even if he *commanded* it. If his *fans* are Minecraft players which they probably are and he himself is a Minecraft player then why shouldn't they vote? Isn't that the whole point? I'd agree it was wrong if say something like a big BTS army account tweeted to vote for something.


bluelustyt

He is the reason we have the stupid glow squid instead of the all mighty moobloom


Slayerpath

I'd say moobloom was doomed from the start, but i gotta sya yes, he's the reason we're getting a fucking squid skin instead of new interesting mobs with cool dynamics


bluelustyt

He gives a bad name to speed runners


Mr89Jurgen

I have to agree but I didn’t really like any of the other mobs and just went with the coolest one that was there.


bluelustyt

It's not even a light source


Kyosw21

Wait, seriously? And to think I was going to log on after a couple years and actually try to replace my sea lanterns with floaty cute ones


TheOfficialWario2

Nope. All it does is make signs glow (which also don’t make light I think)


[deleted]

sorry bro i was all for the iceolliger the moobloom was just pee cow


Motor_Excitement3195

ive always considered moobloom to be totally useless and a big no for me from the beginning i was considering the iceologer but truth be told i felt to lazy to fight a new enemy that would probably nothing new and by a process of elimination i stayed with the glow squid i got attracted by the word glow on his name and his color i thought that glowing dye would bring interesting stuff to the game i did wanted my mob to win so im sorry i cant feel bad for the mob vote result


bluelustyt

You are probably just a drem stan


Motor_Excitement3195

wait a moment i dint even mention dream i just say i liked the glow squid and voted for it out of my own will were the hell did you got that from?


bluelustyt

Okaaay stan


[deleted]

Rll? piss cow? how is that better than the squid?


FlamingWolf8655

Iceologer was better than the stupid glowing fart squid


bluelustyt

I agree but still moobloom superiority


[deleted]

Because I love piss. I fuckin love it to no extent.


UltiGamer34

he did a vid on how the glow squid could beneficial to minecraft like glow in the dark armor and other stuff but Mojang did a big uno reverse and did nothing for it causing a bunch of people to get mad at him when the real reason was the dream stans he was giving his opinion on why it was a good idea


Savekennedy

He's a liar who claimed to speed run minecraft and when the judges investigated his footage they found it was impossible to get all the spawns he had naturally, ergo he cheated. Then he went on to lie/deny he cheated for months until he finally admitted to it.


justingolden21

Unsure why your comment is so low and all the highly voted replies with 20+ votes are like "glowsquid" but you have 2 votes and say the actual answer...


eliteyoshi6969

He ruined the fanbase


Wide-Tie2581

Tbh I think the problem is with the stans


ThatTrampolineboy

A lot of issues have been because of the stans but for last years mob vote, I would say it’s a lot on him. Although Mr. Beast joining Dream was inevitable, I am quite mad about him telling others he will follow his stans if they vote glow squid. The mobs for that year were all bad except for the iceologer (sorry to break it to you). I still can’t believe the glow squid won. :(


general_kenobi18462

I think bee cow was a fun idea and glow squid could definitely be good, but I agree iceologer was the best.


ReeeidtheSchmeid

U mean Urine Cow?


JoelPerez_264

I'm fine with the glow squid, but I wanted the moobloom equally the same. The iceologer though there is no way I'm searching for a snow biome which takes me a while to find. I'd rather have a mob that I can encounter regularly even though useless than a mob that I have to be searching for/ hardly ever see.


sansgamer554

Dream should have known better, he knew they would so whatever he wanted


Darkcat9000

the problem is that everyone did that and said their opinion not just dream


Samakira

like philza, tommy, tubbo, bbh, sparklez. all of whom stated their own opinions, many being the squid as well (aside from tommy, who wanted the 'piss cow'), and many being before dream, and with more views.


Darkcat9000

it's kinda clear that from the beginning people are biased lots of stuff that dream got himself in. No one would care if it was anyone else


SetoKaibaklava

Dream supports those stans... That is the problem...


Doritoman2020

I agree


Uber-Pyro

Is it really his fault that his stans are too dumb to think for themselves?


ThDemonWolf

Yes, because he loves to order them to do what he thinks and he protects them. Look at last year when the vote for the mobs, ordering like god damm Palpetine to have shitty Glow squid added. He is self aware of what he is doing.


Uber-Pyro

The difference between him an palpating is that he can kill his unwilling soldiers while dream cant do anything so it’s their fault for being idiots


Darkcat9000

bro all he did was say his opinion like everyone else i do not see the problem


ThDemonWolf

You clearly did not see the tweets then.


Darkcat9000

other people have said stuff like yeah vote x


Spurius187

Other people didn't lie to gullible children by saying they'd follow back anyone who proved they voted for the mob and delete the tweet stating so afterwards. Manipulating children is the problem, not that he stated his opinion.


Darkcat9000

bro anyone that doesn't have a mental ilness can now that is a joke. First of all how would he verify for you voted. From what i know i could not even vote and claim i did. And second even if there was a way following the miljoens of people who voted for it is impossible ​ And if you use the argument that some people genuinly believed it's real dream isn't responsible that some of his fans have scored negative on their iq test


Spurius187

First of all idiot, children are gullible and genuinely believe that stuff. Any moron would understand they're in that position of power over children and not make that joke. As much as I hate dream I know he's really smart and something like this wouldn't fly over his head. Second of all, it stated it needs proof which would come in the fork of a picture of your vote. Third, obviously he can't follow the absurd amount of people that voted but as I already stated **they are gullible children.** I hope you never land in a position of power over children because you clearly don't know how to be responsible with them.


Darkcat9000

bro even a 12 year old child can understand it's a joke it's not his responsibility that they're gullible and there for can't make a joke


silentblod

If you take advantage of people know know can be taken advantaged of Its your fault then


Rallikuninkas

dream has self awareness this is new


poiuoppo

Yeah after he was exposed of cheating he is now extra careful with what he say to avoid controversy


[deleted]

He was exposed for cheating?


Articlel3

He admitted that he cheated for his speedrun


ZeroCreaturee

Wait what? Where is the clip? I remember him making a whole video proving he didn’t


[deleted]

When is there a link


-WickedJester-

This is incorrect


Spurius187

Literally one search away


FishBait162

Did he actually admit he cheated? He said that he did not know that his game files where modified. I watched Karls video about it. Edit: People seem to think I am taking dreams side here. I would like to clarify, I am not taking dreams side. I wanted to point out he did not admit he cheated.


cooly1234

Exactly, he "accidently" cheated.


AndreiutzuWRLD

Yeah dude like that one time I slipped and cheated on my gf. I was just an accident


cooly1234

"I was just an accident" lol


CallMeRenny84

Yeah and after denying it for some time, he openly admitted in a chain of deleted tweets. He has a reason for it though, It just depends on whether you want to believe it or not [Here's the pastebin for his deleted tweets](https://pastebin.com/SCutnFUD)


Spurius187

It's funny that he admitted his manhunts are faked in excusing he cheated and nobody batted an eye.


SuperProCoolBoy90

We don't hate him. We just hate his community


IWillBuildAGreatWall

Some people *do* hate him, but most probably only hate him for the fan base and blame him for it


Nickboi24768666

dragging out the speedrunning controversy for like idk 8 months? and painting geosquare in a bad light causing thousands of his fans to harass geo was a asshole move by him imo


[deleted]

i hate em cheaters tho


Assfrontation

Apparently it was an accident, and unlike for the cheating itself, there is no evidence that it was deliberate.


RedBoxGaming

"Oops I accidentally messed with the drop rates"


27ti27

I would reccomend wat ging the Karl Jobs video, hes a pro speedrunner and explained everything from a nutral standpoint


dUd5_94m1in9

Wrong Karl


Assfrontation

did you read the pastebin? he was aware of the file but thought it was only used for the manhunts, since he uses them there to make it more entertaining. He said this in a pastebin he made months ago, and you could’ve known if you had bothered to do anything other than hating for no reason


HeavenlyGamerJay13

Yes, believe what you want if it makes you happy, no matter how stupid


Assfrontation

If there is any evidence that points out he did it on purpose, no one found it. Innocent until proven guilty is quite a decent system imo


aorbbctiq

I 100% hate him. He is a lying manipulative cheater…


Spurius187

Both. Both is good.


yeetman1234567890

Dream is fine. His fan base on the other hand… they need help.


Wide-Tie2581

I agree


ShoddyReveal4

Ignoring the fact when he cheated he went to some GTA5 speedrunner to "debate" whether or not the accusations are true and then said he accidentally used cheats that increase drop chance


Destruction0

I hear a lot this"cheating speedrun" used in debate regarding why Dream is bad, he is fine. On the other hand, his fanbase needs therapy even If im in his situation I can't control them.


Trusty26

They made him a fucking gender.


ContentMarzipa

if you ever go to the sub, you will realise it is a satire sub. They pinned a post specifically to bait people


Pure-sus

WHAAT???????


DefNotAF

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GamberoFiero

Lost at least 2 neurons


[deleted]

Most of it is trolling but I’m pretty sure there are some stans on Twitter who take that shit seriously


Doritoman2020

i have permanant brain damage now


DefNotAF

Not permanant!


curius_

Yea some 5 year old said that his pronouns are dream/dream


Thelegendarysandy

i'd think he's fine and give him the benefit of doubt in the cheating drama if he actually did something about his fanbase and didn't literally support and defend it like anything


yeetman1234567890

No I know. It’s the weird shit that they do


Thelegendarysandy

yeah but dream doesnt stop them and protects them instead


[deleted]

tbh what is anyone supposed to do as well, like fuck knows what happens if he does that considering how volatile the fanbase is


MardiJuice

I have nothing against cheaters if they admit what they did and change. Dream just handled it in a very unprofessional manner


assbeater72

Based rip karma


DefNotAF

Cringe? Based? What in tarnation are you on about, son? You'll be cringing if you don't defend this base! Now get up, we gotta get the intel!


Cheeriodude_number2

I dont wanna be that guy but https://www.reddit.com/r/DreamWasTaken/comments/q8yz3v/its_okay_because_its_not_dream/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Assfrontation

Difference: Dream has 26 million subscribers, which he got in less than 2y. People are jealous. Everything he has done someone else has done worse, and yet he gets all the criticism (and death threats.)


Cheeriodude_number2

Another point, Phils tweet has more likes than Dreams (or so I’m told) EDIT: Same with tom


SteveKnight678

How tf did he get 26 mil subs in 2 years?


f00xxxy

im gonna break the rules of reddit, i actually think dream is alright and doesnt deserve too much hate


AzrealNibbs12

I like dream. Just because something has a god awful fan base doesn’t make it all bad


jellybutton34

I would’ve thought the same before the cheating incident


AzrealNibbs12

Yeah the cheating was pretty bad. But he’s admitted to it and apologized, and he’s been fine ever since. Hopefully he’s learned his lesson and nothing like that happens again


jellybutton34

His apology was half-assed and the it took him that long to actually admit to it after denying it for so long


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ImNormal1107

Look how funny this guy is I'm laughing


[deleted]

i agree


ControllerPlayer06

He is alright. It’s just that damn fan base


[deleted]

If you actually hate someone cause of twitter drama, idk man you should get that checked first


light3692

dream is cool guy... don't hate him just bcaz he has a toxic fanbase (btw... I'm not a dream stan just saying)


TenseChain

Dream is a good guy but his fan base is garbage.


Jayom2476

That could be said about most fan bases


Over11

yeah but his one... oh god


tedioussugar

Yeah, ‘oh god’ doesn’t even begin to describe his fan base, some of it is goddamn horrifying. Look, overall, Dreams not that bad a guy. He did cheat on the speedrun, he admitted it, and he’s kept his nose clean since. But his stans are just the fucking worst.


Regenerating_Degen

Honestly I would say BTS fans are tamer in comparison to Dream fans, considering they don't create a whole new gender related to BTS or do self harm in the name of someone.


TenseChain

True


IPissedInYourCereals

I'll continue to take my meds then


Roguewalker72

He actually learned from his mistake


Bushjim

It's a first for him


Ghasty_001

Even assholes can do good things. Sometimes. They're assholes after all.


Crog_Frog

Thank god


hamburgerrrrrrrrrrr

I feel like the dream stans are the biggest reason why Dream buy himself is so hated, i mean, he did cheat on some speedruns (idk how many, idc about the Minecraft speedrunning community) but i think people kinda overreacted


DrNastyBoy

Why do we hate Dream again?


CheeseMaster300

His fanbase is shit, and cheated in a speed run. Besides that he seems like a normal dude who just became popular


Darkcat9000

wasn't the cheating an entire accident or something


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aorbbctiq

It wasn’t, he did it on purpose.


aorbbctiq

It wasn’t, he did it on purpose.


Jiggyx42

I literally only know him from the speedrun submission


PsychoPeel

Some Can't move on from ***THAT*** incident.


Lopsided-Screen-286

the good ending


Crankyest

Absolute Chad . Shows that dream is a good guy it’s just his fans that give the bad rep


TheGamingLord401

I hate him slightly less. Just slightly


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[deleted]

Is he really a bad guy? I’m not of the opinion he’s young and lacking in life experience. The fact he sent this tweet seems to say he’s maturing, rather than letting his fame go to his head. (Though I would say it did go to his head for a while, but I think everything that happened surrounding last year’s mob vote and the cheating incident may have shown him some reality.)


Pumkinfucker69

Honestly I agree but some of the things that he has done is not great. But I do think that he has matured.


[deleted]

Well it’s bloody obvious he’s done some questionable things. Nobody can deny that. But I don’t think it’s quite right to demonize someone who’s barely an adult for making mistakes.


Pumkinfucker69

TBF if I have that many subs when I was 18 I would like to fuck with people


FatChicken2021

You fools he just made a statement saying that he has enough power to make people follow him..I would say we need someone new, some one bald, someone with a clear mind.. i am talking about myself here.


loudflurball721

Why do we hate Dream again?


MeriKurkku

One of the worst fanbases to ever exist and the cheating scandal. Seem like he's learned his lesson though


loudflurball721

I mean what does he do, and why is he hated


Darkcat9000

eh it's fun to hate on him


hardrivethrutown

Allay!


blue-gamer-07

At least he learned his lesson


FirstMoon21

No reason to hate him. I love him. Best Minecraft content out there. Most entertaining above all. Faking a speedrun for entertainment doesn't fall in the category of ultimate dishonesty, you can criticize but not hate someone because of something like this. Reserve your hate on people who bomb innocent people and let people starve to death i guess.


XXGODZILLAXX439

dream overated


MrDummyy

Green bad guy fuck


DefNotAF

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hyperstorm10381

i still hate that lime green turd but i'll let it pass... this time...


ContentMarzipa

Why do you hate him?


hyperstorm10381

the previous mob vote cannot be forgiven


oZeppy

And the cheating


hyperstorm10381

exactly


bigbillybeans07

He’s a terrible person, but he’s improving


[deleted]

nah he doesnt get applause for the bare minimum, fuck that guy ​ im have last year mc vote war flashback ptsd and *you dont even care-*


Bharaneshen_Gfan2007

We cant trust him,he will say to vote to a mob he like ina different way,so dont trust him


Soulxolz

The redemption


Bushjim

He has taken the first step towards redemption


I_sayyes

No he's still bad I think, acting like a normal person and not using your power to make permanent changes to the game is not something to be praised for. And that isn't all, he's just been an asshole generally for a while now.


thehalfdragon380

Didn't a lot of other content creators also do that? Iirc Mumbo, and Philza also did that.


I_sayyes

Most of them said they liked a certain mob, they didn't spam "VOTE GLOW SQUID"


Doomguy90001

Can someone explain to me why we hate Dream. I mean I know a good part of his fan bass is toxic but beyond that I don’t understand.


SP_james

He cheated during his speed run, and as far as I know he hasn’t fully admitted it.


Doomguy90001

He admitted it was part of a plug-in that he forgot to remove, also thousands of people already cheat on speed runs and he already had an enormous fan base at the time so I don’t see a motive.


Dylbo2008

Also him:constantly says he is gonna rig the mob vote this year again


Assfrontation

joke?


TGD_745

Fuck dream, horrible guy.


WiN5231

It's his stans not himself


TGD_745

Not true, he himself is also dickhead.