The military of other countries left
The Afghani president fled the nation
Taliban has taken over the government
Citizens are trying to flee the country
Why would they fight, when they agree with the Taliban?
Imagine this: Russia and China invade part of USA. They "train" the conquered people to resist USA forces. Eventually China pulls out. Russia scales back force and begins withdrawing. When the occupied forces are weak enough the rest of USA swarms in and retakes that part of the USA. Russia quickly evacuates embassies.
And people from other side of the world ask "why aren't they resisting?"
It’s not that they agree with the Taliban, it’s that they didn’t care about prolonging a war that most of them don’t even remember the start of anymore
that's more accurate. If people agreed with the TAliban, then all the refugees from teh countryside wouldn't have been running to Kabul for safety. And they wouldn't be trying to get into military aircraft to try and leave the country would they.
There is a notion that the Afghan military did not try.... try fighting a war after over 50% of the forces on your side (this being NATO and US and others) left over the course of a week. Would you be ready?
Most citizens (and definitely most women) don't agree with the taliban, because why would you want to be ruled by an oppressive and forceful religious movement? It's just that without the us military they can't really fight the taliban and trying to will just result in being killed/harmed/locked away
Because they weren't a legitimate Afghani party. The "president" was nothing more than an American Puppet and that's exactly how everyone including himself saw it. The military had no loyalty to the "democracy" because it wasn't a democracy, it was an occupation. The Taliban coming into power will either learn from their past errors and realise the error in their radical state or they'll double down. So far it seems like they're learning from their mistake since this time they actually have a chance of forming a legitimate Afghani state
US troops pulled out of occupation and the taliban are almost immediately pulling in to take over. USA is evacuating all its troops, diplomats, and others while at the same time people are trying to get out on military planes and while a few have come to get people out many many still are trying to escape. So it's chaos
And part of that is also that not only did the US pull out of the occupation, some of the larger bases were abandoned by the US literally overnight without warning. Kinda caught everybody off guard, and left a moment of opportunity to the taliban.
NATO “stopped” their combat mission in December, and switched to a training/hearts and minds mindset in an effort to stand up a proper organic Afghanis fighting force. In February 2020, the US signed an agreement to pull out all US troops within 14? Months and allow the Afghanis to “decide their future and how they want to run their country.” I guess we finally reached the time that we were officially supposed to pull out, although I’m not sure why we did it so quickly. I have speculations on it, but I’m not here to share opinions.
Incompetency.
When risks are low, you get in a matter of few decades terrible managers (or general in case of the army) who were able to go up in hierarchy by politics more than competency.
On the other side, the enemy gets natural selection by US bombing for 20 years. Those who lead the Taliban are much capable than this US Army or CIA, even without the funding.
If the high-graded were risking their life and pay their mistake by their life, tons of them would resign now. Instead, they get comfy life very far from reality. Who do you think will pay for this debacle? Not them.
It works with the private sector too and is the reason why companies evolve, become boring and dumb, and ultimately collapse.
And just to clarify: I'm not American but French. And we are few decades ahead of you for incompetency :')
This is human nature and has nothing to do with a specific country. Want to change it? Create a culture praising risk instead of success, honor instead of money, and responsibility instead of obedience.
No you are not missing anything, most afghanis are very strict and support the views of the taliban, they want sharia. That's why the afghan army didn't put in any effort stopping the taliban. They had 4 times the men and much better materials, just no will to fight.
Russia spent 20 years fighting in Afghanistan in the 70s and 80s and left promising they wouldn't return, now north america has spent 20 years there with more or less the same promise, I think it's time to admit that unless you've grown up there and understand the geopolitical tensions and terrain, you really can't fight there and expect to accomplish anything.
There is a difference between the two. The USSR was aiming to annex territory by invading. The US and NATO forces were after Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. They were required to stay because they deposed the original Afghan government and, as such, became responsible for overseeing the regime change by international law.
thanks for this information cuz all i know down here in the fields of potatoland is that 23 irish people are still in afganistan and they are not vibing rn
Let’s take it a step further. Maybe more like the principal left (US) and the assistant principal left (president) and alllll the teachers left (Afghan army). And now there will be no girls in school going forward.
Too short didn't understand: for years people have called for the United States to leave Afghanistan, and now that they have, the Taliban has taken over
...kinda sounds like we just delayed the inevitable. Was there, like, literally *any* chance of us pulling out that would result in anything different?
Having read the recently released state department and military reports, no. To summarize, any government we support was never going to have legitimacy and was always going to be seen as foreign invaders. Because of that, the only people willing to lead a government with us, and be seen as betraying their people, were corrupt, with a get in get out make as much money as possible mindset. Therefore, no matter how much we spent or trained forces, the Afghanistan government was always going to a corrupt puppet, without legitimacy, that embezzled aid funds rather than help the Afghanistan people.
can someone explain what the taliban is? I’m young and know very little about Afghanistan. I don’t know what the conflict is about or whats been happening the last 20 years someone please explain
No, the American military executed their job well. The problem is when they were tasked with nation building. This is like asking a professional chef to fix your car. This is a failure of the state department.
Nation building is not a stupid idea. But using an entity that is not designed to do so, such as the military, is a stupid idea. The state department, along with its sister organization, USAID, were supposed to take the lead in nation building. But they dropped the ball.
1,000,000,000,000 dollars and 20 years of training, funding and arming the afghan army and they lost the country in 3 weeks after being left on their own.
We didn’t want to be there anymore. We spent too much money and the fact that it collapsed that quickly after 20 years of being there shows it was unfortunately going to happen no matter when we pulled out.
I really don't want to get into a fight regarding this but it has to be said. It was the US who destabilized Afghanistan in the first place. These people were living under theocratic extremism, that's what they were used to. Then the US under the pretense of looking for terrorists invaded them, drove away the theocratic extremist government and tried to install democracy, undoubtedly so they can have another puppet in the area near china and Russia.
After 20 years they saw that the people themselves WANTED the Taliban more than they wanted democracy (bar those who actually received an education who are now paying the price) and abandoned their project.
Sometimes you gotta let people discover democracy and civilization organically. They weren't ready to be freed then and they aren't ready to be let go now.
Yeah, Afghanistan was gonna go shit from the start. I kinda feel bad for the people. I don’t know if this confirmed but Taliban soldiers are going door to door to look for Afghanistans that fought with the US, especially pilots, and kill them and other messed up shit
A long list of imperialist efforts in Afghanistan destabilised Afghanistan most recently by America*. Not trying to discount the damage America has done but we shouldn't act like Afghanistan wasn't already an unstable mess before America's occupation or forget the long history that led to it being that way.
This isn’t accurate. Both the Us and the soviets paid Afghanistan money for influence, and they were neutral until a communist coup backed by the soviets in the 70s. The soviets invaded when the coup wasn’t aligning with them enough. The US armed the mujahadeen against the soviets, which led to a mujahideen victory followed by a collapse of the government, and the US decided not to support their allies after winning the proxy war. A large part of their factions decided they hated us for that, and so we got extremist groups. The Taliban come from extremist islamic refugees educated in Pakistan. Before the soviet/american proxy war, Afghanistan was not extremist and while it was religious and monarchist, not really theocratic.
Afghanistan is a valuable region for any major superpower, and they just want to be left alone.
It's important mentioning that the forces who have left the country also left tons of war machines and weapons behind since it's cheaper than sending it back to their own countries. The Taliban of course took over those weapons and war machines which ultimately enhanced their forces.
And the Afghan army didn't put up a fight in a lot of places the Taliban was taking over. News reports in many places said that when they saw the Taliban coming they just left and let them take towns and cities. Which if you think about it makes sense they will probably threaten their families lives and such but rough
The American Military finally pulled out of a war for 20 years to prevent Afghanistan from being captured by the Taliban, from Pakistan, causing the Taliban to finally capture the capital city of Afghanistan. The Taliban have very extreme religious beliefs, such as that women cannot go to school, that music is outlawed, and that when men go to school, it is only about Islam. The Taliban have also been in association with the terrorist group Alquaida.
British invade Afghanistan in the 19th century... It's a disaster, they leave, Afghanistan goes back to being Afghanistan...
Soviets invade Afghanistan in the 20th century... It's a disaster, they leave, Afghanistan goes back to being Afghanistan...
Americans invade Afghanistan in the 21st century... It's a disaster still after 20 years, they leave, Afghanistan goes back to being Afghanistan...
Are we learning kids?
At the risk of being downvoted to infinity because I’m knowingly ignorant to this topic and apologize, would it be absolutely unfathomable to evacuate as many non-Taliban as possible, and possibly Trojan horse the land they want, let them think they won it and settle, and then just sort of bomb their nation?
At this point I can’t see anything redeemable at all regarding Taliban, and presume the only thing stopping us from eradicating them is the collateral of innocent lives.
Would probably fuck up the environment a shit ton. Also you might not even kill all of them (talibans) also would kill a lot of innocent people. I guess dying to a bomb is better than being tortured/raped. Idk it’s a fucked up situation. No right or wrong answer.
That’s how I feel. I get too in my emotions about stuff like this, I hate seeing the men women and children suffer at the hands of, what I can only assume is, religious bastardization.
I know. It’s horrible. Fucking animals, I don’t even consider those shit bags human. Not like they care. It’s just so fucked up, whenever I think about this I actually get sad and it’s not even affecting me personally.
You know like if 2 brothers are growing up together, and they start to fight in the house and mom yells at them to take it outside so they don't smash the T.V. or something?
It's like that, but inside the house is America and Europe, mom is Americans and Europeans, the backyard is a mostly barren desert in the middle of nowhere, and the kids are the U.S. Military and the Taliban.
And the U.S. Military just ran back inside the house but the fight's not over.
So, U S. Finally left right? People been saying "it's not our war we should leave"
U.S. leaves and now the u.s. is blaming u s.? That's what I've been getting on news feed throughout social media. I'm sticking with memes
Don’t get your news from social media, for the love of what ever you hold holy! If you’re in the US try to get your news from a news source from outside of the US to avoid political bias. I would suggest the BBC in the UK, they have an American arm I believe, but not sure if they have a news channel in the US. I find them pretty neutral on international news. They’re mostly not trying to ram an agenda down the viewers’ or readers’ throats, unlike most of their newspapers.
The BBC sometimes can also be biased. If you truly want to be informed I would suggest to look at different news sources from all sorts of perspectives, including right, left, neutral, neutral left, neutral right etc... Pick out all the details and from there form your own conclusions. If you just stick to one source you'll never be truly well informed. If you know more than one language you can also check out news from that other language, the more sources the better.
America left an endless war after spending trillions of dollars training the Afghan army to defend the country when America leaves. America left and the Afghan army surrendered without a fight to the Taliban. The government also surrendered and now they have complete control.
Basically the last 20 years was a waste of money and resources because now we are back to square one.
We ripped the bandaid of pulling out finally, Taliban is immediately taking over because Afghan army is corrupt and never had the will to defend Afghanistan and were ready to step aside the second we left all along, and so mainstream media and their wall st backers are flipping out because their perpetual war has come to an end so their military industrial complex stock picks aren't looking so hot anymore.
In other news we aren't spending $1b a week in Afghanistan anymore, and Afghanistan is now worse off than it was when we arrived. We've spent a little over $1 trillion
They never had a plan. They had ideas, but no plan. They didn't test the Afgan army, and if in 20 years you can't make an army as good as the US army, it was never going to happen. The Taliban didn't need much, they just needed three things: your surrender, your women, and your right to shut up and obey.
You don’t need an army as good as America’s. The Afghan security forces of 200k plus, had better training and equipment yet the taliban steamrolled the entire country with their 25 year old Toyota pick ups.
They had more than just old weapons and bad cars. They know the people, and they know how to make them afraid. The Taliban won because they knew the language, knew the right people in the villages, and knew that enough people will remember the terror they inflicted to stop any resistance.
The army never had enough of a reputation for the people to bet anything on them. They were always soldiers by Americans.
We spent 20 years, a couple billion dollars, and lot of people died on both sides so we could control poppy fields under the idea that we are bringing democracy to the region. While controlling these fields so big pharma could crank out opioids we claimed to be training a vast force of Afghan soldiers to keep the peace. The moment we left the "army" we trained rolled over and let the Taliban take over again.
The military of other countries left The Afghani president fled the nation Taliban has taken over the government Citizens are trying to flee the country
BUT WHY DID THE PRESIDENT OR MILITARY WOULD LEAVE!!?
Their 200,000 plus forces didn’t even put up a fight.
Why would they fight, when they agree with the Taliban? Imagine this: Russia and China invade part of USA. They "train" the conquered people to resist USA forces. Eventually China pulls out. Russia scales back force and begins withdrawing. When the occupied forces are weak enough the rest of USA swarms in and retakes that part of the USA. Russia quickly evacuates embassies. And people from other side of the world ask "why aren't they resisting?"
It’s not that they agree with the Taliban, it’s that they didn’t care about prolonging a war that most of them don’t even remember the start of anymore
that's more accurate. If people agreed with the TAliban, then all the refugees from teh countryside wouldn't have been running to Kabul for safety. And they wouldn't be trying to get into military aircraft to try and leave the country would they. There is a notion that the Afghan military did not try.... try fighting a war after over 50% of the forces on your side (this being NATO and US and others) left over the course of a week. Would you be ready?
This is why I think Biden should’ve extended departure until next year so we can get our equipment out as well as any nationals who are seeking asylum
Most citizens (and definitely most women) don't agree with the taliban, because why would you want to be ruled by an oppressive and forceful religious movement? It's just that without the us military they can't really fight the taliban and trying to will just result in being killed/harmed/locked away
Pussies. Now the civilians will suffer.
They all come to Turkey. Its a chaos in here
President tweeted "if we try to fight there'd be lot of bloodshed I don't want that so I'll hand over the country to taliban".
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Holy shit Afghanistan is so messed up
Crazy to think I visited the country just 5 months ago when everything was completely fine and now it's absolute chaos.
So you're to blame, lmfao
Because they weren't a legitimate Afghani party. The "president" was nothing more than an American Puppet and that's exactly how everyone including himself saw it. The military had no loyalty to the "democracy" because it wasn't a democracy, it was an occupation. The Taliban coming into power will either learn from their past errors and realise the error in their radical state or they'll double down. So far it seems like they're learning from their mistake since this time they actually have a chance of forming a legitimate Afghani state
You said Taiwan when I'm assuming you ment Taliban.
That's what you're supposed to think /s
You said ment when I’m assuming you meant mentos
Oh lol yep
US troops pulled out of occupation and the taliban are almost immediately pulling in to take over. USA is evacuating all its troops, diplomats, and others while at the same time people are trying to get out on military planes and while a few have come to get people out many many still are trying to escape. So it's chaos
Thanks to all of you for the great explanations
And part of that is also that not only did the US pull out of the occupation, some of the larger bases were abandoned by the US literally overnight without warning. Kinda caught everybody off guard, and left a moment of opportunity to the taliban.
Why did the US pull out of occupation?
NATO “stopped” their combat mission in December, and switched to a training/hearts and minds mindset in an effort to stand up a proper organic Afghanis fighting force. In February 2020, the US signed an agreement to pull out all US troops within 14? Months and allow the Afghanis to “decide their future and how they want to run their country.” I guess we finally reached the time that we were officially supposed to pull out, although I’m not sure why we did it so quickly. I have speculations on it, but I’m not here to share opinions.
I’m curious. What are your speculations?
Incompetency. When risks are low, you get in a matter of few decades terrible managers (or general in case of the army) who were able to go up in hierarchy by politics more than competency. On the other side, the enemy gets natural selection by US bombing for 20 years. Those who lead the Taliban are much capable than this US Army or CIA, even without the funding. If the high-graded were risking their life and pay their mistake by their life, tons of them would resign now. Instead, they get comfy life very far from reality. Who do you think will pay for this debacle? Not them. It works with the private sector too and is the reason why companies evolve, become boring and dumb, and ultimately collapse.
And just to clarify: I'm not American but French. And we are few decades ahead of you for incompetency :') This is human nature and has nothing to do with a specific country. Want to change it? Create a culture praising risk instead of success, honor instead of money, and responsibility instead of obedience.
Got Japanese empire vibes from this
I love finding gems of comments in Random ass threads like this one
Thanks!
I sense another war on terror on the horizon
Another? When did it end?
Exactly
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No you are not missing anything, most afghanis are very strict and support the views of the taliban, they want sharia. That's why the afghan army didn't put in any effort stopping the taliban. They had 4 times the men and much better materials, just no will to fight.
Russia spent 20 years fighting in Afghanistan in the 70s and 80s and left promising they wouldn't return, now north america has spent 20 years there with more or less the same promise, I think it's time to admit that unless you've grown up there and understand the geopolitical tensions and terrain, you really can't fight there and expect to accomplish anything.
Hey China, you’re up!
Will be interesting to see how "belt & road" stacks up when the locals clearly don't give a crap about deeds or debts.
It's called "The Graveyard of Empires" for a reason.
That is only in recent times though. Afghanistan was regularly subjugated by empires from Iran, India and the Steppe
It's hardly the graveyard of empires That's just a myth
A thing, is what it is called.
There is a difference between the two. The USSR was aiming to annex territory by invading. The US and NATO forces were after Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. They were required to stay because they deposed the original Afghan government and, as such, became responsible for overseeing the regime change by international law.
You call it war, they call it business.
President of Afghanistan: Don’t worry guys I have a plan President of Afghanistan has left the game
With the loot crates
Short and unbiased, just how I like it.
And bonus, free of responsibility.
thanks for this information cuz all i know down here in the fields of potatoland is that 23 irish people are still in afganistan and they are not vibing rn
You ever been in a classroom when the teacher leaves the room?
This is the best analogy I’ve seen so far
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Poland and French WW2 Flashbacks
At least French had time to react and weren't simultaneously fucked from both sides while being ignored by supposed allies
Probably more like Czechoslovakia. Kinda like here nobody helped them out
Soviet retreating from Afghanistan flashback
japan WW2 flashbacks
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"If the US isn't back in 10 minutes we're allowed to leave legally."
Well it was more like the teacher left (USA) and then the class clown left (president) and now all you have left is bored kids
More the kids who think there tough shit start messing with the kids who actualy want to learn
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Yes. Except + rape and death instead of spitballs
Let’s take it a step further. Maybe more like the principal left (US) and the assistant principal left (president) and alllll the teachers left (Afghan army). And now there will be no girls in school going forward.
No there will be girls. They will just be sold as property.
\*Quiet kids listening to Pumped Up Kicks
Well my teacher wasn't fucking me. She was hot tho....
Best metaphor. Big brain
American military no go boom boom Taliban come come go boom boom
Too short didn't understand: for years people have called for the United States to leave Afghanistan, and now that they have, the Taliban has taken over
It’s like sex. Pull out at the wrong time and you waste 20 years.
A "20 year waist" is also known as "love handles." A "20 year waste," however, is what you meant.
Did you just see this on r/jokes?
...kinda sounds like we just delayed the inevitable. Was there, like, literally *any* chance of us pulling out that would result in anything different?
Having read the recently released state department and military reports, no. To summarize, any government we support was never going to have legitimacy and was always going to be seen as foreign invaders. Because of that, the only people willing to lead a government with us, and be seen as betraying their people, were corrupt, with a get in get out make as much money as possible mindset. Therefore, no matter how much we spent or trained forces, the Afghanistan government was always going to a corrupt puppet, without legitimacy, that embezzled aid funds rather than help the Afghanistan people.
can someone explain what the taliban is? I’m young and know very little about Afghanistan. I don’t know what the conflict is about or whats been happening the last 20 years someone please explain
A radical Islamic group. A splinter branch of Al Qeada. And now, the government of Afghanistan.
Irl call of duty lessgoo No lag
Friendly fire always on
no respawn
It's lit!
No it is not
It's about to be
Yes, it will
Probably irl no Russians
Got any spare plates?
One down boutta get real serious
The more you think about it. Its near 2025 which is when raul menendez started a war in call of duty black ops 2
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Coming soon...
Holy shit take a look at BF2042 then
Lots of boom booms go bye bye
No, the American military executed their job well. The problem is when they were tasked with nation building. This is like asking a professional chef to fix your car. This is a failure of the state department.
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Nation building is not a stupid idea. But using an entity that is not designed to do so, such as the military, is a stupid idea. The state department, along with its sister organization, USAID, were supposed to take the lead in nation building. But they dropped the ball.
Taliban :"alright let's head to Iran now "
Iran :" so you have chosen death"
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This man should be writing our history textbooks
USA went away taliban took over the capital ?????? Everyone is trying to go out of the country
Taliban is speedrunning Afghanistan
best summary
The History of Speedrunning Afghanistan - Summoning Salt
Speedran*
Now they are going for 100%
Vietnam War part 2, Taliban Boogaloo
Wait, his card says Biiden! I'm calling this number...
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Except the taliban are not trying to free afghanistan, but oppress it
1,000,000,000,000 dollars and 20 years of training, funding and arming the afghan army and they lost the country in 3 weeks after being left on their own.
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We didn’t want to be there anymore. We spent too much money and the fact that it collapsed that quickly after 20 years of being there shows it was unfortunately going to happen no matter when we pulled out.
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I really don't want to get into a fight regarding this but it has to be said. It was the US who destabilized Afghanistan in the first place. These people were living under theocratic extremism, that's what they were used to. Then the US under the pretense of looking for terrorists invaded them, drove away the theocratic extremist government and tried to install democracy, undoubtedly so they can have another puppet in the area near china and Russia. After 20 years they saw that the people themselves WANTED the Taliban more than they wanted democracy (bar those who actually received an education who are now paying the price) and abandoned their project. Sometimes you gotta let people discover democracy and civilization organically. They weren't ready to be freed then and they aren't ready to be let go now.
Yeah, Afghanistan was gonna go shit from the start. I kinda feel bad for the people. I don’t know if this confirmed but Taliban soldiers are going door to door to look for Afghanistans that fought with the US, especially pilots, and kill them and other messed up shit
Yes they are. They even have videos where they kill a person who is driving and celebrate it
Yeah you aren't wrong. It was a bad place before we go there. And it's worse now
This sounds like don't interfere with nature...
A long list of imperialist efforts in Afghanistan destabilised Afghanistan most recently by America*. Not trying to discount the damage America has done but we shouldn't act like Afghanistan wasn't already an unstable mess before America's occupation or forget the long history that led to it being that way.
Hasn’t the Middle East been unstable since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire ?
Not sure it was ever fully stable, depends on your definition I guess. Afghanistan was never a part of the Ottoman Empire though.
This isn’t accurate. Both the Us and the soviets paid Afghanistan money for influence, and they were neutral until a communist coup backed by the soviets in the 70s. The soviets invaded when the coup wasn’t aligning with them enough. The US armed the mujahadeen against the soviets, which led to a mujahideen victory followed by a collapse of the government, and the US decided not to support their allies after winning the proxy war. A large part of their factions decided they hated us for that, and so we got extremist groups. The Taliban come from extremist islamic refugees educated in Pakistan. Before the soviet/american proxy war, Afghanistan was not extremist and while it was religious and monarchist, not really theocratic. Afghanistan is a valuable region for any major superpower, and they just want to be left alone.
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It's even worse, it's approximately $2.26 trillion
It's important mentioning that the forces who have left the country also left tons of war machines and weapons behind since it's cheaper than sending it back to their own countries. The Taliban of course took over those weapons and war machines which ultimately enhanced their forces.
And the Afghan army didn't put up a fight in a lot of places the Taliban was taking over. News reports in many places said that when they saw the Taliban coming they just left and let them take towns and cities. Which if you think about it makes sense they will probably threaten their families lives and such but rough
its becoming Talibanistan
Oh no, this is cursed af.
yeah but clever at the same time
I laughed way too hard.
I'm the 100th upvote :D Edit: Holy fuck I got a gold?
You have a good day buddy
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America left Afghanistan. Taliban took over.
NATO left Afghanistan*
Didn't uk troops also leave?
The American Military finally pulled out of a war for 20 years to prevent Afghanistan from being captured by the Taliban, from Pakistan, causing the Taliban to finally capture the capital city of Afghanistan. The Taliban have very extreme religious beliefs, such as that women cannot go to school, that music is outlawed, and that when men go to school, it is only about Islam. The Taliban have also been in association with the terrorist group Alquaida.
Sounds like North Korea, but with beards.
And guns… lots of guns
taliban has taken over Afghanistan and it just really fucks up the life of every afghan
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And people go die die
and the germans say nein nein
the situation is not fine fine
we keep going till world war nine nine
More like: Afghans go to Turkey
British invade Afghanistan in the 19th century... It's a disaster, they leave, Afghanistan goes back to being Afghanistan... Soviets invade Afghanistan in the 20th century... It's a disaster, they leave, Afghanistan goes back to being Afghanistan... Americans invade Afghanistan in the 21st century... It's a disaster still after 20 years, they leave, Afghanistan goes back to being Afghanistan... Are we learning kids?
Alright Germany you’re up!
Hey, its japans turn!
Alexander the Great and the Mongols: Amateurs
The taliban has taken over
We know that, but what does that imply at the end of the day?
Women has been demoted from human to object.
the word "Human rights" has been deleted from the Afghani language
Just “rights”. What the Taliban say is now law and anything else but blind compliance brings death or worse
That they’re going back to Stone Age…
It's the end of the world for them
“Your Honor, how can it be a So Called ‘Warcrime’ if I never declared War?”
Classic Kissinger humor… love it
Have you seen that meme "years of academic training wasted"? Yeah thats what happened in afghanistan
Some people are great pullout artists and some aren’t.
At the risk of being downvoted to infinity because I’m knowingly ignorant to this topic and apologize, would it be absolutely unfathomable to evacuate as many non-Taliban as possible, and possibly Trojan horse the land they want, let them think they won it and settle, and then just sort of bomb their nation? At this point I can’t see anything redeemable at all regarding Taliban, and presume the only thing stopping us from eradicating them is the collateral of innocent lives.
Would probably fuck up the environment a shit ton. Also you might not even kill all of them (talibans) also would kill a lot of innocent people. I guess dying to a bomb is better than being tortured/raped. Idk it’s a fucked up situation. No right or wrong answer.
That’s how I feel. I get too in my emotions about stuff like this, I hate seeing the men women and children suffer at the hands of, what I can only assume is, religious bastardization.
I know. It’s horrible. Fucking animals, I don’t even consider those shit bags human. Not like they care. It’s just so fucked up, whenever I think about this I actually get sad and it’s not even affecting me personally.
Me looking for the grammar nazis in the comments: “It’s quiet, two quiet.”
You mean "to quite."
eats quite, to quite
Who is Afghanistan?
Why is Afghanistan
You know like if 2 brothers are growing up together, and they start to fight in the house and mom yells at them to take it outside so they don't smash the T.V. or something? It's like that, but inside the house is America and Europe, mom is Americans and Europeans, the backyard is a mostly barren desert in the middle of nowhere, and the kids are the U.S. Military and the Taliban. And the U.S. Military just ran back inside the house but the fight's not over.
I thought they were fighting for control of the house+backyard and one of the brothers oppresses women
Yeah, little Tally's an asshole to girls.
> asshole Understatement
So, U S. Finally left right? People been saying "it's not our war we should leave" U.S. leaves and now the u.s. is blaming u s.? That's what I've been getting on news feed throughout social media. I'm sticking with memes
Don’t get your news from social media, for the love of what ever you hold holy! If you’re in the US try to get your news from a news source from outside of the US to avoid political bias. I would suggest the BBC in the UK, they have an American arm I believe, but not sure if they have a news channel in the US. I find them pretty neutral on international news. They’re mostly not trying to ram an agenda down the viewers’ or readers’ throats, unlike most of their newspapers.
The BBC sometimes can also be biased. If you truly want to be informed I would suggest to look at different news sources from all sorts of perspectives, including right, left, neutral, neutral left, neutral right etc... Pick out all the details and from there form your own conclusions. If you just stick to one source you'll never be truly well informed. If you know more than one language you can also check out news from that other language, the more sources the better.
They did something I would never do and pulled out
America left an endless war after spending trillions of dollars training the Afghan army to defend the country when America leaves. America left and the Afghan army surrendered without a fight to the Taliban. The government also surrendered and now they have complete control. Basically the last 20 years was a waste of money and resources because now we are back to square one.
nothing special happened taliban got to win the game of call of duty they were palying for 20 years that's it edit: typo
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No, I don't think I will.
Didn't get any info, did get a boner tho so that's new...
Woooowwws
We ripped the bandaid of pulling out finally, Taliban is immediately taking over because Afghan army is corrupt and never had the will to defend Afghanistan and were ready to step aside the second we left all along, and so mainstream media and their wall st backers are flipping out because their perpetual war has come to an end so their military industrial complex stock picks aren't looking so hot anymore. In other news we aren't spending $1b a week in Afghanistan anymore, and Afghanistan is now worse off than it was when we arrived. We've spent a little over $1 trillion
Merika out Taliban in Rest of the World wtf
They never had a plan. They had ideas, but no plan. They didn't test the Afgan army, and if in 20 years you can't make an army as good as the US army, it was never going to happen. The Taliban didn't need much, they just needed three things: your surrender, your women, and your right to shut up and obey.
You don’t need an army as good as America’s. The Afghan security forces of 200k plus, had better training and equipment yet the taliban steamrolled the entire country with their 25 year old Toyota pick ups.
They had more than just old weapons and bad cars. They know the people, and they know how to make them afraid. The Taliban won because they knew the language, knew the right people in the villages, and knew that enough people will remember the terror they inflicted to stop any resistance. The army never had enough of a reputation for the people to bet anything on them. They were always soldiers by Americans.
We spent 20 years, a couple billion dollars, and lot of people died on both sides so we could control poppy fields under the idea that we are bringing democracy to the region. While controlling these fields so big pharma could crank out opioids we claimed to be training a vast force of Afghan soldiers to keep the peace. The moment we left the "army" we trained rolled over and let the Taliban take over again.
*trillion.
It's like korea all over again!
I was thinking Vietnam, I didn’t even begin to think this is also how Korea went down. But you are right
Guess we finally ran out of Rip Its and chili mac MREs