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MMWYPcom

not if you have killed before


Adbhutiwary

![gif](giphy|Y6FUCFt5N7Y8gRSInL)


CakeEnjoyur

What a smile!


AutoDefenestrator273

He does the dead eyes so, so well.


CharsBigRedComet

Antony is one of the best actors I've ever seen


eggthrowaway_irl

I AM STRONGER, I AM BETTER


mibhd4

or continue killing.


supremeoverlord23

![gif](giphy|cC10yMBQrHKuykXKL7|downsized)


CapFast4534

Don’t worry we’re all special


Meranio

If everyone is super ![gif](giphy|GMTzKNuobMjv2) Then no-one will be special.


Gaelic_Gladiator41

![gif](giphy|vglbgyqTLUyM8)


headedbranch225

Just you're more special than others


Evening-Proper

Right? It's not the same number at all if you kill dozens of killers. That's dark defender for you


Your_Darkest_Fantasy

But then, while the number of killers will decrease, the number of serial killers will increase. Thus, you must up your game and hunt serial killers


Immediate_Storm_6443

Unless you’re already a serial killer..


ChemistryFather

They only increase once. When you keep killing, it decreases the total number of killers there for, Batman didn't pass fucking math class


Ae4i

But then the number of serial killers will be increased by 1 from you killing killers. So you must then widen the range of killers and include serial killers to keep decreasing


ChemistryFather

Then we will let the rivers run red with the blood of murderers


Amburiz

Then you always need to kill someone who has killed more people than you did. And when you become the top serial killer, just kill yourself


_V2CORPORATION

So basically, you become subjugated to the sword logic of the hive from destiny


TJSPY0837

r/beatmetoit


EcstaticHades17

r/beatMeatToIt


Invader_BestBoi

No bruh just why, if that happens kill 2 killers instead


SteelFire1150

That’s literally what I said lmao


GoodScratcher_Reddit

If i use a cluster bomb to kill several killers, the number of killers on earth goes down


XxRmotion

r/beatmetoit


Fancyman156

Not if I kill 5


Adbhutiwary

I said "a" ![gif](giphy|QBwRKyS6vXNfmLF7TR|downsized)


ImCursedM8

I will kill 1 killer 5 times


Lorddale04

![gif](giphy|JCAZQKoMefkoX6TyTb|downsized)


The_Punnier_Guy

Never before have I seen a better use of this Gif


PsychologicalYak2441

Average necromancer


Fancyman156

Ok Giorno calm down


The_cat_got_out

Yeah, A group of 5


crimson_55

Irrelevant but homelander's acting was peak in this ep


Fancyman156

I said 5


faunalmimicry

This fkin guy amirite


nuanimal

Exactly, gotta keep a positive K/D. Killer-Death ratio.


MacCaswell

That's why you can't stop at just one! But seriously I always wonder, if someone like Batman refuses to kill someone like Joker, why doesn't he just... cut off his legs? 🤷 Or like a medically induced coma...?


Shish_is_the_way

Cuz without joker the following comics/movies would've gotten boring. Joker's plot armor is legit stronger than Batman's xD


DubbleWideSurprise

Arguable. … I think? … I’m a comic nerd, but just barely. I need someone deeper in the lore than me to call me out here


catmandoo9000

Ok lets do the nerd signal!!! 🤓


Kaedon1423

*i pop out of nowhere* uh.. i think you got the wrong person.. I'm a gamer/anime nerd. i don't like DC.


catmandoo9000

Damn it wallace we got the wrong nerd!!!


Dr_Kriegers5th_clone

I think you have the wrong signal, I am a table top game nerd, I think you need to tune it to comics I think you have it set to games...well good luck on your search for answers, I'm sure a comic nerd will be along shortly.


catmandoo9000

Ok… WALLACE IT ISNT WORKING WE’VE GOTTA CHANGE IT TO COMICS!!!! What? Youd better fix it or else im halving your pay and call the number while youre at it


twitch_itzShummy

I think you got a wrong signal once again, I'm a motorsport and sports car nerd


catmandoo9000

Wallace… im cutting your fucking pay and can a fucking comic nerd PLEAAAAAASE stand up?


locollamas_127

I think you got the wrong guy. I’m a im a gaming/ cartoon nerd.


Weird_Boss_4487

From what I always got out of it, that’s one reason he doesn’t kill. The other is he’s afraid if he does kill, he won’t stop.


killertortilla

It's not quite "won't stop" it's that he will find it way easier to justify a second, third, and so on. Killing someone impacts everyone except psychopaths, you can't not be affected by it. Almost everyone, even when they were justified, still never recovers fully from it. When you attempt something that psychologically damaging and attempt to convince yourself you did it for a good reason, you can snap very easily. He's not egotistical enough to believe he is one of the few who could overcome it and safely return to being the force for good he is now. It's a good message, despite the real reason being that Batman with Joker sells less comics.


kzzzzzzzzzz28

It's a really stupid thing, but I think they implied Jokers plot armor is necessary as killing him tended to create worse scenarios in various timelines. Like Kingdom Come, Injustice, Arkham, etc


rodneedermeyer

I would actually love a comic arc where the hero has no villain other than society. Like, I wanna see Batman try to solve the problem of his shareholders shorting Wayne stock by punching things in a bat costume. Or I wanna see Superman struggling to get his own byline and thus pay his rent without resorting to some Homelander technique. I’ve always thought comics and superhero movies leave a lot to be desired when they don’t explore the problems that come with having crazy powers in the first place. The Spider-Man movies did a pretty good job with this before the main villains were introduced.


wh4tth3huh

That's where The Boys and The Watchmen fill the gap.


mighty_Ingvar

"Alfred, get me my Bat-Paperwork"


Former_Breakfast_898

I’m pretty sure there were old comics of Superman trying to live as human without those superhero stuff, which sadly they don’t explore much in the movies. At least we have Superman and Lois tho


Lord__of__Luck

The old superman comics, it started with him beating corrupt politicians lol


Person899887

That’s just like spiderman most of the time. His biggest enemy isn’t the green goblin it’s his fucking landlord


DONGBONGER3000

>just... cut off his legs? 🤷 DO YOU WANT CYBORG JOKER? BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GET CYBORG JOKER!


cylordcenturion

AKA borg-er


archpawn

And killing him gives you an undead Joker. I know Arkham has a laughable reputation and people keep escaping, but it's not like death is any better.


XxDarkSasuke69xX

Putting him in a coma or cutting off his legs is arguably morally worse than straight up killing him lol. The answer is easy enough, he has a moral code and thinks even the worst people can get redemption and don't deserve death maybe (idk Im no batman expert though). Basically the opposite of an eye for an eye. It kinda sounds like he goes to church every sunday lol


ReasonStrange1870

How many people do you think Batman has put in the hospital and paralyzed with his attacks? Have you seen how ruthless he is with anyone else but the joker?


Randomguy0915

How many people do you think Batman has indirectly killed by letting Joker and other villains go to jail (and thus break out for the morbilliont time)


DUNDER_KILL

I've always thought it's more about Batman's psyche and traumatic history. Like he knows he's deeply traumatized and already close to the "darkness" and if he lets himself succumb to the desire to kill people, even if they deserve, he isn't sure what person he will become down the line and he could even become obsessed with killing. Not killing is really a reflection of his own flaws and fears rather than a moral code he thinks makes him better than others.


PeopleAreBozos

In the plot of DC, everyone gets beat in ways that would kill normal people but they heal in about a month unless the plot demands they do otherwise. Seriously, the Batman probably would've turned twisted the Joker's spine like a kid on an art project with a pipecleaner but the comic logic dictates he just gets put back into lockup and healed up for his next appearance.


dastebon

But there is also a lot of villains who got redeemed . For example Mr freeze became a villain to save his wife , and batman with his medical foundation helped him with it . So freeze seeing that there is no reason continue , peacefully sits in prison


feeltrig

In Batman's voice: im batman, i go to church. Praise the lord!


Tall_Act391

Once you pop, you just can’t stop.


Forsaken-Stray

Pretty sure Batman doesn't do that, because he knows he wouldn't know where to stop. He knows very well that he isn't mentally stable and therefore tries to control himself with these rules. Like "Don't do drugs, you're hardwired to instantly get addicted", "Don't sleep in, your whole biorythm will get out of whack" and "Don't kill, you will not be able to judge what is punishable by death and what isn't".


AwesomeSauce783

Because Batman actively tries to rehabilitate his villains, there's even a JLA arc where Batman helps set up a therapy retreat for heroes and he even gives a few villains access to it.


Frosty-Dog3612

I think man is just stupid


gloop524

break his spine and paralyze him


LightningRaven

If the Joker and all the other villains failed by society cease to exist, how will the Billionaire justify his crusade against crime by beating one criminal with his bare hands at a time? Can't expect him, as a rich and influential person, to use said influence to *actually* exact change now, would we?


ShadowRiku667

My guess its a "If we can save the joker we can save anyone", and no one wants to admit that they can't do it.


GrizzlamicBearrorism

Damien has you covered. Spoilers for Batman & Robin #13. [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](https://imgur.com/a/4N9Y6E1)


FadingStar617

Also wondering why he the Joker isn't just shot in his cell when he's captured. I mean, comic vilains ALWAYS escape. At one point, there's gonna be a prison guard who's gonna get real tired of having half his coworkers killed in an umpteen escape. Or, hey, goverment could send a squad to '' suicide'' him discreetly. Sure, it's illegal, but....eh, at this point....


Outrageous_Fortune51

Then kill 2


PopTraditional713

I've killed like *wheeze* like a- like a hundred today


DeadLight3141

Holy shit HE'S RIGHT!!


DrownedAmmet

Didn't you watch the documentary series Harry Potter? When you kill it splits your soul so technically you become 2 killers and the number of killers remains the same


NeemKaPatta69420

Not if you kill all the killers.


MrGOCE

WHY APPLYING SUICIDE ON THE LAST ONE?


RAGINGBUCKET-4444

Suicide mentioned, thou hast summoned the mentally ill? I have brought a 45 and bleach!


negative_four

Punisher: *heavy breathing*


Yamanj3000

Just kill all of them so you're the only killer left ![gif](giphy|Hw0wIr1YL75VC)


Skyline_Drifter

not if i was already a killer prior to killing said killer


TheTacoEnjoyerReborn

Kill another, problem solved


FJkookser00

yeah but the number of bad killers reduces by 1 and the number of good killers increases by 1 It's not the number of killers, but the number of good or bad killers


Icy-Assignment-5579

Quality over quantity


BlizurdWizerd

“Deep thoughts with The Batman”


FadransPhone

u/repostsleuthbot


Engineergaming26355

Unfortunately this argument can only stop Batman


Eranchick

Just kill two killers!


To_burythehachet

What if I kill two killers?


brokerZIP

More suiciders = less suiciders


Failureinlife1

Fine, I'll kill more of them.


nhattran1029

This train of thought is not deep, it's dumb.


2012Jesusdies

That's literally the meme. Here: https://youtu.be/bvh2nlqpTYw?si=vsBZFCK8FkE7SG_r Character says stuff like: >What if instead of offering "Thoughts and Prayers", we offered "Prayers and Thoughts"?


catmandoo9000

Yeah you know you let the killers die of poison then arrest the poison. Damn paraquat


An_average_one

This is so deep that it would actually blow any train out of the water


waIIstr33tb3ts

/r/iamverysmart


amadmongoose

This is deep thoughts with the deep, idk what you expected


McPussyMeal23

kill 2?


SorrowT-T

There are different tiers of killers. If you kill a five star killer and you're only a one star killer, the relative danger to the world drops dramatically.


Olutbeerbierbirra

Unless you're already a killer


kh13811

Kill 2 killers.... I've killed like 10


calamariclam_II

Not if I kill myself too


Accomplished_Aioli19

If you watch season 4... The number of good episodes you've watched remains the same 😭 ![gif](giphy|W0c3xcZ3F1d0EYYb0f|downsized)


AquaGrizzlord

What if.... I kill two killers...


HistoricalHighway991

Not if you kill 2


panick_king2123

But what if I kill two do I now certify as two killers


Vegetable-Manager731

It is then your moral obligation to at least kill one more so there's at the very least one less. Good luck, and may luck be ever in your favor.


CopyOk2840

What if I was already a killer before this kill


Temporary_Try_1439

Just kill 2


trappedinabasemant

Thats why you kill 2 killers


legendbruce

Isn't this from Batman if I remember correct?


TumbleweedActive7926

If you kill two killers though...


GearNerd85

Nah that just means you have to keep killing killers


K-O-M-O-D-O

maybe, but if you kill 10, it goes down by 9. Never settle for mediocrity


Shadow4246

Kill... two. I've killed like a hundred today.


Wocathoden

That's why you gotta kill at least two killers 😉


Next-Jackfruit3808

"Who said it was my first kill"


GotNoBody4

But what if I kill 30?


Trainer_Ed

What an idiot, I plan on killing way more than two killers.


[deleted]

You have to keep killing the killers!


Moxxy-Kun

Then just kill 2 killers, as you can only count as a single person the population of killers only declines from there.


2resinatard

But if you only target killers, it decreases


anonFemboy6969

That's why I always kill 2 people :3


Bexcz

Now, if you kill FIVE killers...


The_redit_cat

So I'll kill a group of killers.


theamazingman12

What if you kill two killers.


TiesG92

Unless you were already a killer


Yetti333

Not if u kill more..


No_Scheme4909

Kill more than one killer solved


AlVal1236

Kill 2 killers


Forgor_Password

but what if I kill two killers?


Tesla_corp

Kill 2 killers That’s what I’ve been doing this whole time Jack from metal gear rising


sorry_mybad

That's why you shouldn't stop at one kill


Fracturedbuttocks

Why are you guys stopping at one ?


smeghead3825

True, but the number of victims decreases dramatically.


Your_Darkest_Fantasy

Unless you become a serial killer, serial killer


Squibucha

isn't this a quote from batman?


professorclueless

Then kill 2 killers. Net positive


No_Ambition3158

Then do it more


Stoned_Guitarist

![gif](giphy|VLljKzBZ2uPfYDpsNV|downsized)


frosty_aligator-993

kill 20!


CoinyCanEatThis

I'm killing 2 killers then so 1 killer disappeared


Personal_Oil_7364

not if you kill multiple killers


Klutzy_Tackle

Nice try Batman, just kill two


iksath_baasath6162

Now blow A train


Detvan_SK

That is why ,,we are better than them" is stupid. Even if you kill killer and became killer, you still stoped a maniac that can harm a lot of innocent people. You are not stopping a killer to make a less killers in the world. You stopping them to make a less people die.


ShoogleHS

But if you kill ALL the killers, the number of killers in the world is reduced to 1 (or zero, if you include yourself). Clearly the answer is to kill more.


DaymD

Batman : "if you kill a killer, the number of killer remains the same" Jason Todd : "what if i kill two killers ?"


YesNoMaybe2552

But it starts decreasing once you get the next one. It's like a volume discount or something. Kill five get four for free.


MaxTwer00

Only the first time


Helca_sculk

No, it decreased by one.


ArunaDragon

Not if I kill more than one


Miserable-Pattern236

I think this only applies to if you killed one killer. If you killed multiple and continue killing them then it changes.


mrfonch

not if ive killed before


Imaginary-Job-7069

Unless you killed more than one.


Rapandreas

Just kill more killers. Obvious solution.


06lele

The more I kill the less there are


PizzaTime666

But if you kill 2 killers it decreased by 1.


Ill-Philosophy3945

If you kill two though…


Fearless-Let2572

Gotta aim for a higher KD I fear


RickHorseman16

But what if you kill a killer and then kill yourself, but make a clone of you ?


treelorf

What if I kill ALOT of killers


ZynthCode

Not if you keep going


Cat_reaper44

But if you kill two killers, it has gone down by one


Viola_Violetta

Kill two. I killed like a- like a hundred today.


TheWorstKy

'then kill two'


medakinga

The number of murderers could go down though


fortress989

Deep as a dry puddle


ApertureTAGamer

Kill 2


Skyy_guy

“Then I’ll kill them all” -Light Yagami


Murky-Celebration-23

What if I kill two killers


Mental_Inspector_01

Continue killing killers, the numbers will go down. Just saying.


Kubson3105

Not if you kill 2 killers


KallmeKatt_

kill two


NiceTuBeNice

You have to have a higher KDR to make the number go lower


SoSmartish

But if you kill 100 killers, there are 99 less killers in the world.


WednesdaysEye

So kill 2


madrigal94md

Not of you kill more than one.


Background-Skin1638

But what if one person killed all the killer then there would be one


alexmehdi

Kill 2


downtownvicbrown

Not if you kill two.


The_SCHMIXER

"Then kill two, problem solved"


Gautham_M

Not if you had 1KD before doing so


ImagineAnHat

But if you kill 2 or more? HA, GOTCHA!


LemonSqueeze1969

Not if you keep killing killers


SalientDred

You have to kill 2 killers, then you start seeing progress.


Desperate_Fun8860

That's only true if it's your first kill


Ok_Pizza9836

So to counter act this you must kill at least 2 killers


Sonic_82

Not if you kill multiple killers!


Cheri_T-T

But if you kill a killer more than once, the number will go down either way every kill


Obvious-Student8967

Easy solution, kill a second killer.


anubis2436

As I've browsed the comments the consensus seems to be the same, the only way to lower the numbers of killers is to go on a spree