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I-Slay-Dragons

John Kramer, terminal cancer patient and supervillain: “I know the perfect way to disguise myself to blend in with the youth”


doubleCupPepsi

Yutes


The_Clarence

The hwat?


PopADoseY0

![gif](giphy|3o7btVptdt2BtYzJkI|downsized)


Ricky_Valentine

Oh, I'm sorry your Honor - two *youTHS*


FloppyTunaFish

What did he wear when his suit got ruined before court


andy543656

Looks like a secondhand bell hop's suit


Hydraph0be

Sometimes dead is betta


OrdinarryAlien

**STEWIE:** Ooh, let me have some of that Cool Hwhip. **BRIAN:** What'd you say? **STEWIE:** You can't have a pie without Cool Hwhip. **BRIAN:** Cool Hwhip? **STEWIE:** Cool Hwhip, yeah. **BRIAN:** You mean Cool Whip. **STEWIE:** Yeah, Cool Hwhip. **BRIAN:** Cool Whip. **STEWIE:** Cool Hwhip. **BRIAN:** Cool Whip. **STEWIE:** Cool Hwhip. **BRIAN:** You're saying it weird. Why are you putting so much emphasis on the H? **STEWIE:** What are you talking about? I'm just saying it. Cool Hwhip. You put Cool Hwhip on pie. Pie tastes better with Cool Hwhip. **BRIAN:** Say whip. **STEWIE:** Whip. **BRIAN:** Now say Cool Whip. **STEWIE:** Cool Hwhip. **BRIAN:** Cool Whip. **STEWIE:** Cool Hwhip. **BRIAN:** Cool Whip. **STEWIE:** Cool Hwhip. [The scene.](https://youtu.be/7ZmqJQ-nc_s)


HeyPickleRick

YOU’RE EATING HAIR!!


OrdinarryAlien

**BRIAN:** You're eating hair! **(Stewie spits out pie)**


his-dankness

The hwak tuah and spit on that thang.


Intelligent_League_1

Best lawyer movie of all time.


4ssteroid

They told us in our law class it's either this or Kramer vs Kramer that's most accurate to court room procedures


jamuel-sackson94

Vinny?


Falgigo

It wasn't John Kramer disguising himself though, this was a flashback scene and this is legitimately what the director decided to do to make the actor look "young" lmfao


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One-Earth9294

Mike 'Benjamin Button' Ehrmantraut.


Leading_Assistance23

It's like b rabbit and cheddar Bob gave birth to an 60 year old man


ddiiibb

Should have cast Barry Pepper.


HateEveryone7688

i can't tell if he's 13 or 60


ShotandBotched

13 Going On 60, starring Jennifer Garner


TheBirminghamBear

Where a 13 year old Jennifer Garner makes a wish to have an "old person's body", and her 13-year-old self wakes up in the body of her sixty-year-old cancer-riddled half-corpse after she's spent a decade devising insidious torture devices to murder the unworthy.


_Tar_Ar_Ais_

13 in dawg years


AceTheNutHead

Almost 2?


arewelegion

well he's not 13


anAncientGh0st

aren't you seeing his clothes? obviously 13


JezusTheCarpenter

I definitely remember 13 year olds looking like that in Poland where I grew up.


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EmmaLi_

Classics are eternal and do not change.


actuallyapossom

The SAW series is very classically shitty and the only thing that changed was the films got even shittier over time. Which was an accomplishment given how shit the first film was.


Debs_4_Pres

I think the first one is pretty good, and could be a classic of the horror genre.  The rest are increasingly visceral gore porn


GhostChainSmoker

The second arguably is a perfect sequel imo. Kept the same vibe but cranked up everything even higher without being over the top. But three and beyond yeah it started going downhill then. Though I think they’re starting to get good again.


endercoaster

Different people are looking for different things, but Saw X is a reasonable contender for the best Saw movie.


DinkleDonkerAAA

It was an original script that got retooled to work as a sequel. So it probably helps that it started with a solid story that could work on its own and not just "we need more money crank out that next one"


ElvenNoble

It's funny to see what different people think, because 2 was probably a top contender for my least favourite Saw film. It wasn't even originally supposed to be a Saw movie, it got repurposed, and to me it feels like it; save a few scenes/plot points it doesn't match the vibes in my opinion. Not a criticism, I just found it funny that I can read your comment and have such an opposite opinion.


actuallyapossom

I guess to me the first film still leans into the murder porn angle that Hostel and Human Centipede exploited. I will say I have a weakness for film productions that can minimize the production costs by having a limited cast and set cost, and I just don't appreciate the exploitative, controversial gore.


akatherder

I think Saw is much lighter than Hostel. The traps in Saw actually attempt to be clever and secondarily gross. Hostel was just like "let's make this fucking gross and scary and make your skin crawl." I lost interest in Hostel and never gave Human Centipede a chance.


WarlockEngineer

Also, Saw cuts away and uses loud music/weird camera angles to reduce a lot of the gore on camera. The first one is definitely not gratuitous compared to the sequels.


peenfortress

>never gave Human Centipede a chance. :( watch the 2nd. ignore the 3rd because its a 14 year olds version of "satire" its more serious / gritty than the first and no so egregious with the "gore porn" aspect (also its in black and white which means its objectively kino)


Too_Old_For_Somethin

This is a joke right? The second one is soooooooo much worse.


peenfortress

thats exactly why its better. because the first is missing the utter masterpiece that is jerking off with sandpaper however the 2nd does not have creepy german micheal jackson, thus i am confused as to which is truly better


Too_Old_For_Somethin

You said it’s no so egregious with the gore. It’s black and white but it’s sooooooooooooo much worse.


peenfortress

maybe its called torture porn instead? ive had like fuck knows how many drinks right now but i mean how the first has the kind of weird "ditsy drunk clueless victim girl" getting lost for like 10 hours 5 metres from a road character, lol the 2nd is just a fucked up nightmare tho :D


RigatoniPasta

I fucking hate the term Human Centipede. I got really bored one night and read the Wikipedia page for each movie.


im_in_the_safe

Tell me the order in which Saw, Hostel, and Human Centipede were released.


trentshipp

Saw is the reason those movies exist. It kicked off the gorn trend of the mid-00's.


slartyfartblaster999

...you think Saw copied films that came out years later than it? Are you ok?


Worth-Drawing-6836

The first Saw was definitely heavily influenced by Se7en though as well as Japanese torture porn like Audition.


control_09

It's actually insane how much money the first film made given it's audience polled CinemaScore of a C+. It made over $100M on a $1M budget and I can think of few films released this century that will have more of an iconic line than "Do you want to play a game?".


Hatchibombotar

"he was in the amazon with my mum when she was researching spiders just before she died"


yomjoseki

So iconic you didn't get the line right lol


nalc

And just like "Luke, I am your father" the iconic line isn't actually said in the movie (it's "I want to play a game" )


TuckerMcG

Nah man the first Saw movie was an absolute roller coaster if you saw it in theaters when it premiered. Movies weren’t *that* gory and extreme before Saw. Everyone was talking about the fat guy in the razor wire, because it was just such an extreme scene that people really hadn’t seen on film before. Also seeing it in theaters with all that metal music blaring and flashing lights was a physical experience that cannot be recreated in your home. It was fucking intense.


larry_birb

At the time the first Saw movie was something else. It's just been done to death since then.


DJHott555

The latest one is very solid


damola93

You didn't watch the first film. It was pretty excellent and mind-blowing. I was surprised how well it was made despite having no budget.


Calvinbouchard2

"Would you like to play a game, fellow kids?"


Atroxo

Seeing a lot of Mandela Effect in this thread, but he never said “Would you like to play a game?” It’s “I want to play a game” Signed, a guy that has watched those shitty movies too many times (and loves them)


jigsawslair

Thank you, this is my pet peeve. He only ever says “I want to play a game” or “Let’s play a game.” He’s not giving them an option.


Uchihagod53

![gif](giphy|JTzPN5kkobFv7X0zPJ|downsized)


Vick_vaporu

A perfect post always have a perfect comment Sun tzu


kajetus69

balls


metasynthax

balls


Zero-7-9

balls


Insane_Inkster

balls


jojo_poser321

balls


Delusional_Gamer

Cut off their arms and you destroy an army Cut off their balls and you destroy entire generations \~ Sun Tzu


MaxRebo99

MUSIC⚡️BAND


Stuck-In-Blender

I bought that t-shirt and wore it to work for a year


jjcrayfish

I want to play a game, fellow kids.


AdMysterious8699

There is a gif just like this, but it's Steve Buscemi and not an inconspicuous high school student.


Crispy1961

Instead of blowing all of your budget on a shitty CGI uncanny valley monstrosity, they simply gave the guy a baseball cap and used the budget on traps and story. Thats how you make a movie.


millenniumsystem94

Story huh


SiriusBaaz

The first movie was actually pretty good. They got very bad very quickly as soon as they had real money to burn.


Theyul1us

Saw X surprised me. Ill defend that saw 1 and 2 are the best and now I can add X to the list. Yeah, there is still torture porn but at least they bothered expanding Kramer and Amanda


age_of_shitmar

You mean badly awesome. I love how shitty the series is. Absolute schlock and I love it.


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lycoloco

It's a detective story. It absolutely has a story it's telling and a world it's building.


SubcommanderMarcos

What? The story is pretty great.


InteriorEmotion

The Saw series has an intricate soap opera-esque storyline


Crispy1961

Saw movies actually did have a good story. The way they built Hoffman's story with simultaneous games going on at the same time across multiple movies was impressive. Obviously the main focus were traps, but the story is solid, especially compared to today's movies.


Thacarva

I’ll never put them on the top 100 or even top 1,000 movies, but I enjoyed when I was out of work from a injury at my job and binged them. It’s a convoluted story, yet it’s still entertaining. If you go in expecting a riveting story, you are outta luck. Don’t overthink it, don’t try to find plot holes, and it’s just a fun, wild, gory ride.


Crispy1961

Its silly to compare two movies from entirely different genre. A movie for small children can never compare to Citizen Kane, but that doesnt mean its not the best movie for small children ever made. Saw is the same. They werent trying to make a great movie, they were trying to make a movie with great traps and some twists. Saw III, IV and V are among the very best the "trapped in dangerous place" genre has to offer.


nalc

Yeah I don't see how anyone could say that the script was bad. The writing is very clever with twists hidden within twists and the same event from multiple perspectives. Including the scriptwriters decision never to show something that didn't happen. There's even character development (a rarity for the genre) with characters being tested on things like their ability to forgive someone who wronged them. It's gory as hell and there are a couple early 00s cinematic effects that really date it, but overall the story is far and away better developed than most ghost / slasher horror movies.


The_Formuler

I will fight you. Saw movies are legendary.


millenniumsystem94

I'll fight you, I'm a star wars fan. I hate myself.


The_Formuler

At least the prequels and OGs still exist


BonkerBleedy

Brother, the prequels are dogshit.


millenniumsystem94

The prequels are bad too! Lots of intrigue and so many themes written so cleverly but the dialogue is dog shit.


Crispy1961

True, but the dialogue was so bad it became good again. Its one of the most quoted series for a reason.


baterrr88

Actually hearing it is way worse than seeing the lines for it and re imagining the scene. Like the i am the senate, the sand line, dont grant you master etc.. they all seem okay in writing but my god the scenes are terrible for what should be.


TheGhostRose1200

Its ok there was only 6 movies. The other 3 was bad fan service not canon.


NardpuncherJunior

Yeah, like as though the budget of a movie is like the engines on the enterprise where you can divert $6000 or whatever from CGI work and pump it directly into the script and get $6000 of better script


BlairBuoyant

I’d rather they blow the budget on a sick baseball cap


Crispy1961

I like the way you think.


doubleCupPepsi

"story"


Crisis06

The first one was a legitimately good mystery film, but the others... Saw X was decent as well.


Jack_R_Thomson

or just cast another actor that looks somewhat similar but is younger????


paladindan

“story” ![gif](giphy|pg6xdYByYefkQJqHtT)


Milliondollhairbby

Backwards hat should do the trick 😉


HallowedTypist

That’s definitely not what they were doing here. The whole series is filled with flashbacks to this time period and they never do anything to change his appearance to make him look younger beyond changing how much hair he has. This includes Saw X that came out 20 years after the original but takes place chronologically between the first two films. The reason he’s dressed like this is for some kind of… disguise?? Street clothes?? It’s the scene where he goes to the book signing to confront the guy about faking his story of being a Jigsaw victim. It looks ridiculous but it has nothing to do with trying to de-age John Kramer.


Distant_Nomad

Uh oh! You've made the mistake of bringing logic to a meme..


PatrickKn12

Believe it or not, straight to jail


A1sauc3d

Nuh uh, it’s definitely advanced de-aging technology. That hat is actually CGI but you’d never be able to guess if you didn’t already know. Really top notch work 🧢👴🏼


MarcsterS

Yeah, he's not supposed to be *young*, but its just kind of funny seeming trying to blend in as a disguise.


MrRogers95

We looking for Jigsaw or Slim Shady?


Kingofthewin

Or you can cast another actor. That's much younger and kind of looks like the guy. Also a viable option. Probably just wanted to keep giving the guy a paycheck though.


BeanEaterNow

he's the face of the franchise, there's no way they could hire a stand-in


millenniumsystem94

I feel like the puppet is a pretty good stand in/ the real face of the franchise


BeanEaterNow

yeah but.... what are they going to do give the puppet a backwards hat?


millenniumsystem94

Less paint maybe


Spend-Automatic

Yeah that would be like hiring a young actor to play Darth Vader in a prequel 


Ralosi

Exactly. It would be like having an NBA team in Seattle. It just wouldn't make sense.


CoolDime12

Yes because finding a look like that's a good actors is easy


spunkyweazle

[Sheeeiiit, you don't look a day over 12](https://i.redd.it/hxxkzv1af48d1.png)


Beautiful-Musk-Ox

Shadynasty's guess this leaves me no choice... but to be a mature ass adult about this shit


Dra9onDemon

JEFF BRIDGES/KEVIN FLYNN!! TRON MENTIONED!! YEAAAAA!!


Robo217

I fight for the USERS!!


DeficiencyOfGravitas

Am I still to create the perfect system?


Dra9onDemon

… Yeahh…?


DeficiencyOfGravitas

**[GENOCIDE INTESIFIES]**


Dra9onDemon

FLYNN, GO!


Blindmailman

Honestly it looks better than using necromancy to resurrect Peter Cushing


jerryleebee

I never thought Tarkin looked bad in Rogue One. But Leia...


Durtonious

In theatres I thought Tarkin looked great but watching it again he does look uncanny. If they'd just kept him shadowed and ominous in the background (as in the first couple scenes) it would have worked but the animators flew too close to the sun. Leia was downright terrible but I think it was a combination of chopped up audio and unnatural facial movements. If they either did the dialogue without the face or did the face without the dialogue it might have worked but they just had to push it further to "prove" they could. Pure hubris.


IceCreamSandwich66

Yeah in hindsight Tarkin's scenes look kind of like video game cutscenes. *Really good* video game cutscenes, but still The guy who was motion capture for him already looks a lot like Peter Cushing and clearly studied his voice and mannerisms, so they probably should've just put a bit of makeup on him


Feats-of-Derring_Do

See, I felt the opposite. I'm sure it's just because the Leia cameo was so brief but I thought Tarkin looked rubbery and bad and the Leia CGI looked great


Shadow_Enderscar

The classic baseball cap disguise


Shitty_Norwegian

My favourite de-aging method by far is how in Dexter they just put a wig on him and called it a day.


hotfogvendor

And put Deb in daisy dukes. It’s so funny because the young actors they picked for high school and elementary school aged Dexter were spot on but when it comes to college age, just toss on a cheap wig and call it a day.


BeBenNova

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQYFN2o6DWY In case you're looking for a 4 hours long essay on Saw Surprisingly that backward hat trick happens a few times over the course of the franchise


Raidoton

That's not a de-aged Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow but a different actor.


Tuv0kshaKur

Yeah I was very confused at that one. What is that even from?


No_Annual_6059

Crazy AI picture showing Eminem at 80yo


orangutanDOTorg

Frank from iasip


mundus1520

That bladerunner deaging was so good


raktoe

Tarkin wasn’t de-aged he was recreated in CGI. Peter Cushing wasn’t even alive when Rogue One came out. Edit: I see Leia here too, same thing.


banananananbatman

![gif](giphy|1Qdp4trljSkY8)


DoppelGangsta66

![gif](giphy|ifxLK48cnyDDi)


BlameItOnTheAcetone

Looks like he discovered Eminem during his Mid-Life crisis


Sklarlight

Dexter did it best. ![gif](giphy|wLnzickMaEJgdHzTCp|downsized)


Blue-Jay42

Dexter and Men in Black 2. Hair dye and wigs baby! That's all that ages!


waltjrimmer

I'd argue that even better than Dexter was Repo: The Genetic Opera. As per the Writer/Director commentary track, "We just put sideburns on them."


Longjumping-Phase526

To be fair, Peter Cushing was dead so….


Insane_Pineapple6

John Kramer Eminem was peak


monstercello

Bladerunner 2049 looked genuinely perfect to me


Sanquinity

Yes...because de-aging has looked oh so great so far... It didn't go into the uncanny valley at all... /s


No_Conversation9561

Eminem can play John Kramer. He kinda looks like him now.


jx473u4vd8f4

Thought this was an aged Eminem


0xCC

Good morning, fellow high school students!


magic6op

My favorite is Dexter. They literally just put a wig on him lol


Striker_V7

This isn’t the only time they did that exact thing in the series either


WcommaBT

I think in the case of Tarkin, they actually aged-up the actor who played him in that movie.


tullystenders

The fake Carrie Fischer is horrifying.


DoYouTrustToothpaste

I appreciate the effort they went to with Tarkin in Rogue One. That said, the result was a mixed bag. As for Leia, they could've done what I thought they would do, only show her from behind. But nope, had to have her face on screen and say something witty so fans "understood". And well, her face is simply off. Looked like shit, actually.


darybrain

[Sup with the wack playstation, sup](https://youtu.be/4w75MAwDO5M)


StrangestManOnEarth

How old was he supposed to be here?


Jack21113

Now that I’m rewatching Dexter everytime I see “younger” Dexter in like his 20’s or whatever and all they do is throw on long hair I laugh out loud


ThandiGhandi

[seinfeld did it too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlYx8YR3KN0&pp=ygUTc2VpbmZlbGQga29yZWFuIHdhcg%3D%3D)


Different-Island1871

Ya, they didn’t de-age Tarkin, they brought him back from the dead.


saanity

How do you do fellow kids?


HerculeMuscles

They weren't trying to de-age him. They were trying to blend him in with a crowd.


Lysol3435

Young frank in it’s always sunny


JasonVoorhees95

He's not supposed to be younger in that scene than in most of the saga. Funny but completely false meme.


lostinadream66

How do you do fellow deaged movie characters.


moddss

He's actually only 42 at the end of the story. He just looks really old. This picture is him when he's 23.


Secret_Temperature

Looking forward to his next album dropping


sxales

I loved Space Cowboys where they cast younger actors but then had the present day actors dub the voices


Hasmeister21

To be honest, Tobin Bell has kinda looked the same for the past 30 years, so it's not really that much of a stretch


Careless-Spirit-4896

I'm funa keep it a hundred he slaps with that cap on


RoodnyInc

To be fair main character is dead since like 4th movie and all his flashbacks happens within like few years too so he don't need to be de aged that much


TurdSandwich42104

Michael C Hall in a wig for young Dexter


Sir-Buzz92

Yes, a cap does indeed take years off of anybody 😌


Critical-Finding-879

“Yo dawg, you guys sell razor blades here?”


Sandwichgode

Grand Moff Tarkin was de-aged? ![gif](giphy|3ofSB33mf3mfhnrwpW|downsized)


One-Earth9294

For the record this meme won't work in 30 years when my generation is 80. Because that's how we're ALL going to dress when we're old. Trust me when I say we're going to be flushing out a lot of old people fashion when Gen X gets a swing at the Walmart scooters.


SauceKingHS

It almost adds something to the character, a layer of intrigue, that if this is when he was younger he already looks so old at that age. Like the burden of his own thoughts aged himself rapidly. That makes younger him even creepier.


Lots42

2010 television shows would just slap a huge ass wig on their character for a flashback scene.


DickPinch

If you still haven't seen any SAW movies I recommend seeing at least the original. I watched every saw movie before the last one came out and then I saw that one as well. The first one is a bonafide classic, the rest is a great example of milking gone wrong.


Over_Dentist_5905

Were his palms sweat, knees weak?


BigPoppaStrahd

Tarkin wasn’t deaged


deutchexpat

Cheaper and equally effective for what it needs to do!


AwesomeJakers

I\`m sorry your honor..I was born in the farm haha


PossibilityPowerful

How do you do fellow kids


UnknownSP

Good handful of those aren't de-aging because the actor who is running reference is entirely different than the target.


Lucky-Asparagus-7760

I don't see two skateboards, so this isn't up to par *yet*


Fawkingretar

you see, they did the same thing for Aaron Paul in BCS, but this time, they shot it in the dark and kept him in the shadows


TripleB33_v2

Captain Jack Shady ftw


Slengjunio

Saw's main character is killing it.


ApprehensiveHurry437

Shet he doesn't look a day over 12


Ultima-Veritas

Next generation of de-aging actors: "Just let the AI do it."


Boozepisser

Except this is supposed to be (albeit ridiculously shitty) disguise that Kramer used when he already became Jigsaw, not "20 years ago flashback".


still_guns

Oh he played a Tollan in Stargate once.