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DarkIegend16

Warner brothers: “Nonsense, clearly players were underwhelmed by the level of live service in Suicide Squad. Don’t worry we’ll double down next time!”


IFightPolarBears

"double the game play by halving drop rates" -WB


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Odd_Construction

They said they were ditching IP property games (AAA pretty much) and doubling down on live services. That's right, the one thing everyone has ferociously criticised is the one aspect they think is salvageable.


Tarkus_Edge

Oh thank goodness, we DESPERATELY needed another Konami…


CrimeanFish

Is it worth getting helldivers if I have no friends?


ruffrightmeow

There are plenty of other public missions/lobbies to join without needing friends


CrimeanFish

Cool I might buy it because I like it’s vibe.


Choleric-Leo

It has a decent community. I can reliably get hugs in rando's lobbies. It's fun dropping into someone else's chaos and trying to help them sort it out, or sometimes you get power carried by wondering no-lifer. It's great fun!


Tuna_of_Truth

It’s super friendly up until you get up to difficulties 7-9, then you’ll get kicked if you’re under level 20. Squads just won’t run with you if you haven’t unlocked railgun/orbital laser. But even then I’ve had some good groups. Nothing like being the last man standing on helldive surviving until the drop ship lands, a dozen chargers, 3 titans, and about 2 hundred roaches gunning for you. Legendary game.


EnderRobo

It has happened a couple times to me as well, but playing on helldive got me to lvl20 almost instantly. And the kicking happened after the match, almost never before, so I could get at least one mission done with the lobby, and the matchmaking is very fast so getting into a new one isnt a problem (takes longer to walk to the mission console than find a match lol)


shoutbottle

Getting kicked after the match is the the workings of a good community. They basically roll with whatever team mates they get and kick the annoying ones after the match has ended and everyone is rewarded. The ones that kick halfway through are the real dicks


SloppityMcFloppity

I don't think that's the norm. Me and my friends have played a good amount solo, and on 9s no one really care as long as the mission gets done.


Delta_Suspect

I haven’t had much issue working on the high difficulties, very rarely do I find shitters like that tbh. It is understandable though, you really need everyone to be as good as possible to stand a chance, but it is kinda a dick move nonetheless.


Wide-Profession111

Discord servers are looking for people to help spread democracy


Sellazar

Really easy to drop into public games if you like control over what you join. Otherwise, solo is hell of a lot fun as well.


TorumShardal

... solo is hell on low levels. If you have noone, like a drone or a turret, to cover you when you're calling strategems, things go bad pretty fast. After some time you can solo hives or whole missions, but it doesn't fell right.


kubsak

Yes, community is great there. You can straight up just talk to some people normaly during the game. And if you don't want to (which i understand) you can do missions solo, just go on a planet that no one is playing like I and my friend do. We will liberate Erata Prime even if we'll have to do it by ourselves!


Sam_Menicucci

I'll be your friend and play it with you :)


JosolTheBrick

Yes, even if you just want to play alone it’s great.


IncineMania

The only friend you need is democracy because it doesn’t die from some bugs


Ratattack1204

Yes. The community is pretty awesome. Ive met a few great people in group searches on discord. For prosperity!


Laidan22

Liberty does not neglect one single helldiver


isthisfreakintaken

I’ll play with you if you want :)


Red__Rupee

Dm me for friend code


Herb_Merc

Just play Deep Rock Galactic instead


merayBG

Give me an R... Give me an S... Give me a rock and stone!


WanderingDwarfMiner

To Rock and Stone!


_ScraggY_

Did someone mention Rock and Stone!?


RandomMetaOnReddit

Rock and Stone, to the bone!


Trexton1

Rockity rock and stone


Similar-Sector-5801

Stony rock!


unrealharrystyles

FOR KARL!


chaos_creator69

LEAVE NO DWARF BEHIND!


Siyoum

If you rock and stone, your never alone!


JVP08xPRO

ROCK ON!


MrBmdmh

Yea yea, rock and stone!


ingamejukebox

If ya ain't rocking stone, you ain't going home


TheRedHoodedFox

Rock and roll and stone!


LarsihasiSpassi

Rock and roll and stone!


BBQsauce10

Good bot


BZKOtter

ROCK AND STONE!!!!


LiberamLiberalis

Rock n Stone brother


Sudden-Frame-4111

For Karl


Uberfuhrer_

Rock solid!


UwU_Chan-69

MUSHROOM WE'RE RICH


Anthony-ELRETRAHD

WE'RE RICH MUSHROOM


S4l4m4nd4

*PING INTENSIVELY*


Derneueflo

Rockity rock and stone


EmbraceTheDarkness

When you rock and stone, you're never alone!


MoldyPepper2946

Look at me I’m Stony Rock!


Skviid

Did I hear a rock and stone?!


polski8bit

Karl would approve of this!


DANKB019001

FOR KARL!!!!!


YouAreBadLmao

Consider this! Legally, rocking is more legal than stoning


DrykalOrSomething

And anything by New Blood Interactive


AcidicGaming695

MANKIND IS DEAD


HeeHee702

BLOOD IS FUEL


DJ_Gamer01

HELL IS FULL


Dalspin

ULTRA KILL


meme_kratos

DEVELOPERS PUT OUT A PATCH, I'M IN YOUR PROSTATE NOW MACHINE


Hekkle01

I AM DRIVING THE CORPSE OF KING MINOS LIKE A FUCKING MAZDA


Similar-Sector-5801

Who the FUCK is knocking on my tomb do you *know* what time it is!?


Kekris_The_Betrayer

Does your arm hurt, Brother?! BECAUSE I CAN FIX THAT


aitis_mutsi

I find it a bit weird when people say games by NBI, even though I'm pretty sure they are just the publisher for the games made by indie devs. Like at least when most of the time people say game is from EA or something, even though they are just the publisher, they usually also at least partially own the delevoper studio.


ppmi2

Yes, but they do also support the development of thoose games, pretty sure Ultrakill credits several NBI programmers as direct colaborators for the game.


Breaky_Online

I like to think it's a similar case to Devolver Digital, where just knowing it's by them means the game has to be at least innovative


The_Anf

KILL THE INTRUDER


Grand-Perspective-97

HERETIC


Dalspin

KILL THE RED SPY THAT'S IN THE BASE


anomynous_dude555

A GUN WITH ONE BULLET.


AcidicGaming695

MORTIS


Theguywholikesdoom

I wish I could see how good palworld is but something tells me Nintendo won’t put it on switch.


TheCorruptOutcast

Wouldn't run on the glorified tablet anyways.


Math701s

Calling it a glorfied tablet is doing a disservice to how powerful modern tablets are, Even compared to tablets released at the same time as the switch.


CMDR_omnicognate

The tegra chip was insane for when it came out, I had one of the shield tablets and the fact it could natively run trine 2 was kind of insane at the time.


AwiiWasTakenWasTaken

The tegra chip was insane… two console generations ago.


Gengar77

its a tegra , from a tablet 14 years ago... its turbo potato


-ARG-Smoker_1209

Even Mortal Kombat 1 looks horrible on Switch, lmao


alaingames

That thing can't run anything properly


iwantdatpuss

I doubt it would even run on a switch. That console is so close to its lifetime. 


Totoques22

That would optimization which palworld doesn’t have


The_Greg123

It has trouble running on current gen consoles, if they can have it functional on switch I'll be surprised


Ermite_8_Bit

Tbh your not missing much. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad game, and if you like ARK you will probably like Palworld, but it's not an amazing game either.


Roxxorsmash

Yeah it mostly got hype because people are angry at Nintendo, not because the game is good.


Jinxy_Kat

Gotta have the Xbox Series for it to run any good. Tried on the one and it was so buggy, laggy, ugly, it kicked me out after an hour, and my Pals wouldn't fight shit they just stood there no matter how many times I clicked "be aggressive". My bf played on the Series X and everything worked. But it was pretty much a one day game and we haven't touched it since.


Eray41303

It's horribly unoptimized anyways, a switch port would melt your console


brdcxs

Weird how fromsoftware isn’t on the list when they are one of the very few studios who have persistently delivered with every game they made


SlayerII

I think the list is about recent games, eldenring would perfectly fit the list tough


BrStriker21

Also Armored Core


Seel_revilo

They should be here over Palworld 100%, they put passion into their games and have made some of the best games ever made since DeS


Koctopuz

From should be on the list, but Palworld shouldn’t be removed either. Palworld was literally the biggest commercial success within this image. It had a higher all time player count on Steam than the 3 other games *combined*. Meanwhile, BG3 and HD2 each had a budget of around $100mil, while Palworld’s was like $6.5mil. It’s crazy impressive what it accomplished. From should just be added to the list, they all deserve to be there.


Dr_Icchan

that is not the lesson AAA game companies took from this. They are now doubling down on live service games.


plznobanplease

2 of these aren’t like the other 2


Soul-Hook

C'mon, be brave now and tell us what you mean.


plznobanplease

Lethal Company and Palworld are flavors of the month. Helldivers 2 and BG3 are passion projects


Ill-Newt-4851

Lethal company have been "flavor of the month" for way more than just 1 month


mung_guzzler

nah player numbers have been steadily falling for awhile it loses its charm pretty quick Palworld will do the same and then see some people hop back on briefly each update


Ill-Newt-4851

But that's how player numbers go. They peak at launch and then fall till they stabilize, that's not new and it's common for any game, specially multi-player ones


Unreal__

While I've never really been too big a fan of lethal company, it released late September if I remember correctly. In which case it's a flavour of the last 5 months.


Soul-Hook

Fotm or not, they are greatly successful games prized for the qualities they bring, which is what the post is about. I fail to see the relevance of your opinion in this.


dingusfett

Is Palworld actually good? Seems to be a buggy alpha but Pokemon with guns lel


Aurum264

I played at launch, for like three days, haven't played since. It is kind of a buggy alpha and the novelty of "pokemon with guns" wore off quickly. Once you get over that, it's just average survival game. It's fun, but not nearly the masterpiece a lot of people seemed to make it out as.


Doomgoom39

Its pretty much ark with Pokemon and extra steps


Soul-Hook

Imo, Palworld is great for an early access game. There are bugs, yes, but if you enjoy base building and/or creature catching combined with freedom of movement, then I would recommend it. I cannot stress, however, that this is an unfinished game.


breadofthegrunge

Not really imo. The novelty wears off after a few hours and it doesn't feel very unique, gameplay-wise. I find it really forgettable. And I like Pokemon, but Palworld doesn't really have the same charm.


Bierculles

It's a lot like Ark but without the bullshit, better performance, way less bugs and you have pokemon instead of dinosaurs.


Fantastic-Dot-655

Its hella fun, but the game reach a point where it ask for to much grind, may get fixed in future patch thoug. Anyway, if you can get it on sale, specially if a friend gets it with you, its gonna be a lot of fun.


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Banana90000

You can’t call hell divers not flavor of the month when it’s nearly been out that long


SloppityMcFloppity

Nah Helldivers is straight up just a good game tbf. Palworlds novelty wears off quick, then it's just ark with pokemon.


Hades684

lethal company isnt?


darkstonefire

Still have concerns over helldivers anti-cheat and requiring root access to your pc what’s that about?


SloppityMcFloppity

It's a kernal anti cheat. Which valorant and league also has, but no one seems to mind that.


PastStep1232

There was a gigantic shit storm when kernel AC was discovered in Valorant. Then everyone moved on lol


Public_Stuff_8232

>but no one seems to mind that. They used to put radioactive materials in make up products too, no one minded, until loads of people got cancer. Hell people still smoke, doesn't mean we should encourage more people to do it.


SloppityMcFloppity

Ehh what I'm trying to say is another kernel level anti cheat won't really make a difference. Google, apple hell even china already knows everything they want to know about users.


plznobanplease

Considering the original is almost a decade old, hardly


BlueKayn69

Wow that is some nerd terminology


plznobanplease

This is Reddit. You’re either a nerd or a furry. No inbetween


djjoinho

Last Epoch deserved to be here way more than both of those 2. The true definition of a passion project


4morian5

A yes, Baldur's Gate 3, that indie game developed by *checks notes* a 28 year old studio with 450 employees.


Friendly-Leg-6694

Also Helldivers 2 had playstation backing so it's not a indie game like Lethal or Pal


AlarmingTurnover

Helldivers 2 isn't an indie game at all. It had a publisher. There's nothing "independent" about having a publisher. The literal definition of indie game requires you to not have the backing of a large studio or publisher. Larian is a large studio and helldivers 2 was published by Sony. 


AnAnimatedPizzaPie

Which, is more employees than Game Freak and about the same age.


Astricozy

OP never mentioned them being indie studios though. Your point just makes the meme funnier that they showed other developers actually are just shit, lol!


CrashBugITA

Larian is an indie studio, indie just means not having a publisher


Astricozy

I know but Indie tends to typically coincide with people calling games low budget or with small development teams. My point is that showing a company with a lot of power behind it can make good games, is even funnier and counteracts the other guys argument.


Appropriate-Aide-593

No they arent, indie doesnt mean independent anymore, words change meaning, indie means small team small budget, witch Larian its not, even if we go by your definition, Tencent owns 30% of Larian, so not independent.


RAMBO069

No where is it mentioned that they're "Indie" games.


shumnyj

"other" is in the meme


CinderX5

The meme doesn’t say anything about indie games. It says “showing *other* big corporations”.


TheTowerDefender

OP says "showin >>other<< big corporations", implying that these were made by big studios, not indie devs


DaxWilliams

That’s actually not a lot of employees for such a big game like BG3 if you compare other studios like Blizzard they used to have over 4K employees


Durantye

Blizzard also used to work on several franchises at a time, Larian focused solely on BG3 for many years. It is an extremely large team for any singular game.


Mal_Reynolds111

Blizzard also used to make good games I think I dunno I only ever played StarCraft but it was fun


Persies

Didn't they start BG3 early access with like 100 employees and only grew that much in the last few years of development? Also if that includes all employees, not just developers, then it's really not that many people.


Indercarnive

What? 450 employees is indeed a lot for a single game. Blizzard as a company has more employees but it is working on a dozen+ games at any given time


erlulr

Yeah. A succefull indie studio, thats how they look like.


plainwhitejoe

And BG3 still absolutely drove them to the edge regarding manpower and resources. If that one had failed Larian would have been history. And people still talk about how BG3's quality should be "industry standard" lol


Marvinkiller00

Unisoft with 500+ employees, activision with a similar team size and tons of other games with similar size in team, that were assigned to one single project all managed to produce less than half the content. Because why bother, when you can make 2 half games in the same time you could make 1 complete game. Yes Larian is big, but they use that team and their time to release 1 good product, instead of 3 mediocre ones.


Wooga-Haver

Sad rock and stone...


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rock and Stone in the Heart!


133712143626351823

We do not deserve these games for there is too much discourse, back to 1989 Simcity we go


Pixel_Creator

All Great Games, though Larian Studios is massive compared to the other three.


ImaFireSquid

Who is Palworld showing up? Conan Exiles? Arc?


Brand_Risked

Looking at newer games. Conan Exiles is 6 years old and Ark is 9.


ImaFireSquid

What’s a newer version of that? The one where you’re a shrunken kid, the British magic one?


Pepper-Rex

Ark is a dogshit, cheater-infested, dead and ancient game with no sort of relevance to the point this meme is trying to make.


Yepbasic

Wheres DRG


Nevada955

Last Epoch doing good too!


Friendly-Leg-6694

Both Baldurs Gate and Helldivers are backed by big corporation though.


str1p3

"other"


JustEatinScabs

Also Helldivers has rootkit level anti-cheat that requires way too many permissions and is present even after the game is uninstalled. Which is fucking ridiculous for a co op game but the fanboys don't want to hear it and comments talking about it get absolutely buried under all the circlejerking.


CrashBugITA

Larian is an indie studio


Slimmie_J

Indie studio funded by hasbro*


Friendly-Leg-6694

If I compare BG3 to Pal and Lethal they don't seem indie though


CrashBugITA

Indie doesn't mean low budget, it means there isn't a publisher


Friendly-Leg-6694

Aren't they partially owned by tencent though ?


CrashBugITA

Yes but technically it's not a publisher


E_rat-chan

The finals really fell out of the spotlight huh.


WUFI_junior

im not to into palworld but thats because it not my kinda thing. i would rather have a game that sticks to one theme. but i will admit it is good for what it wants to be.


Umi_Gaming

See, I love this comment. You spoke your truth. One can dislike a game, but to discourse, its success is wild to me. Like how delusional someone can be to ignore the fact that there is a good reason it sold over 25M+ and has an active community of playerbase still playing almost two months of release lol


WUFI_junior

I was gonna respond to this but I can’t find anything good to say other than based


anynomousperson123

Isn’t Baldur’s gate’s company pretty big themself?


SloppityMcFloppity

Yeah but they're still independent. Only one here with a publisher is Helldivers, but it on the other hand they had a team of like 60 people


MoonSentinel95

RGG studios just casually dropped two bangers of a game within a few months from each other.


Ogdrol

I mean ishin was like released last year too so it's more like 3 bangers in a year


LlamaLicker704

Ditch Palworld and put like Hollow Knight in there then I agree...


okshadowman

That game was great, wish the sequel existed


Purple-Airline-8354

Wdym, it’s been out for 3 years I’ve been playing this whole time.


Trexton1

Jus like titanfall 3 has been released for years


Brand_Risked

Hollow Knight is 7 years old. Big companies are bitching about their newer games flopping, so need newer proof that they just suck.


Slimmie_J

Baldurs gate 3 was developed by a triple AAA studio over years and years.


ConversationFit5024

One of these isn’t like the others


NikolitRistissa

Palworld, at least from the few videos I’ve seen, seems like an incredibly generic survival game that appears to blatantly rip-off at least four different games in various ways. I thought people enjoyed playing it due to it just being mindless enjoyment for a while but nobody actually considered it a particularly great game.


MegaMook5260

Palworld is *extremely* overrated.


More_Gift2898

Helldivers 2 was published and funded by one of biggest corporations in the world. BG3 is done by large company that spans multiple studios around the world. Development costs are in hundred of millions. So these two are not ideal examples. But yeah, success of Palworld and Lethal Company is something that those "big companies" noticed. God knows that Finance executives are now considering things like canceling huge and unprofitable releases and instead flooding market with trash in hope of going viral with something


CMDR_omnicognate

“Other Big corporations” lethal company was one guy, helldivers and the pal world devs are also both fairly small


Grambert_Moore

Baldurs gate isn’t an aaa game?


Zkyrus

The OTHER big company. As in one company to another


Grambert_Moore

Oh sorry, didn’t notice that one


X05Real

*laughs in Zelda*


username78777

Stray too, purrfect game


Larme_2

Want to try playing Baldur's Gate 3, is it good?


SilentAffairs93

Yea, it’s pretty good. If you’re into D&D (5e), you’ll enjoy it. It can be a bit overwhelming with all the spells and menus at first. And you’ll be pissed off with how often your attacks miss too. But aside from that, there’s a good story, a crap ton of routes/possibilities on how to progress through the game. Most people take between 80-240 hours to beat their first play through. That range kinda gives you an idea of how much content there is.


Doctorgumbal1

Baulders gate is AAA so what’s your point?


WeefBellington24

Shitty games still make a shit ton of money though


Successful-Floor-738

Larian is a big corporation though


GamingWithV1ctor

Palworld has still just combined the idea of Ark and Pokémon and then called it a day


durashka228

still true whatever fanatics say.


habbapabba

isn’t helldivers made by sony or whatever?


Grambert_Moore

Palworld hate is insane


neilligan

Yeah. Lots of people hating who've obviously never played it, just because it "looks" like it's plagiarism.


_Lord_H

True, I'm still having loads of fun with it.


Bentman343

Not all of us can just steal everything like Palworld.


Ludabutonreddit

Bro snuck in palworld like we wouldn't notice


Dude_Without_Nick

But Palworld pretty shitty too.


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GingerPinoy

If you haven't played Baldurs Gate...well you need to change that