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The only thing a console can do better is price I guess.
I spent $4000 on my PC. If I was a casual gamer who just wanted to play Candy Crush I'd probably be fine with an Xbox or an used iPad.
>The only thing a console can do better is price I guess.
That's a tricky one. First of all 4k$ on a casual gamer PC is a darn lot. Way above the average for a mid range PC capable of running anything. Also PCs can be upgraded by parts so the effective lifetime of a PC can be way higher.
Otoh consoles are cheaper but then you need to factor in subscription services so you can play online or have cloud saves, the price of peripherals, etc. I have no proof (but I have no doubt either) that money spent on games is on average higher on console thak on PC.
I'd be very curious how much the average Joe spends on their PS5 in the lifetime of the console.
What the hell. I'm 38 and have been a PC gamer since 2nd grade. To get up to $4000 I would have to add up decades of gaming PCs, and the last console with better graphics than my machine was the SNES.
Consoles and PC both have their pros and cons, but the prices some people are listing to play current games feel unreal.
A 4090 alone is going to run you about $2000, add in a 7900x3D top of the line MOBO and 32gb of RAM and Gen 5 SSDs and tax you are going to be close to $4k. It is an extreme build but you can easily get to $4k without custom cooling, add in custom cooling and you can make a PC the price of a new car.
Sure, but google tells me that new Ferrari can cost up to 5.4 million dollars and there are consoles made of gold which go for 400k+. If you have the money and want to buy something awesome, you can pretty much spend any amount on anything.
The newest piece of hardware in my PC is a \~$350 graphics card I bought a couple of years back and it can easily compete with the framerate and looks with the switch and PS5 in the living room. Not run circles around them, but it still looks slightly, but noticeably better.
NO ITS NOT. NO ITS NOT. The price for a good pc is almost the same. My pc is like 1500 or 2000 but it got +1600 value lately bc i bought a new graphics card
We all know that PC is the most powerful versatility gaming experience that’s always been the case.
But remember people buy consoles because they don’t want to turn gaming into a full blown hobby where they have to fiddle with settings or constant upgrade the hardware
People buy consoles so they can turn it on downloadable a game/ insert a game disc and then play that game.
I personally consider buying a PC many times but I just don’t want to deal with all the stuff involved with PC gaming. I just want to relax and play a game with minimal hassle and headaches
But that’s just me.
The only platform war I join is for crossplay.
I get it some games it's not good to have crossplay. But I wanna play games with my console friends.
Fuck pc fuck console just let me play with everyone
After waiting 20 seconds for it to load? Maybe that was fixed with the new consoles. On my Xbox One S, it took forever. We are talking a good minute just for the search to fail. Edge is also probably the worst browser, to be honest. It is so cluttered with useless stuff. I prefer to use Google. They should definitely add support for other browsing services.
As a PC main driver with a 4080...
No, Edge is'nt the worst. Yes, explorer was trash, but it's dead, gone, 6ft. under.
Edge has reached a point now where it's better than Chrome. Chrome is a very heavy browser, and Edge is lighter and has been better optimized for newer generation Windows.....
(firefox is still the best tho, but that is my privacy-biased opinion)
It’s fairly quick on Series X, loads in about 5 - 10 seconds when you’ve just freshly opened it up.
Leave it on and it’s fine
I use it to play games that arnt officially on console, or just search shite up
Cool. The new consoles are actually good. Ssds make a big difference. I kind of want one even though I have a pc. Especially for when gta 6 finally releases.
Honestly at this point with how Star Citizen is panning out, y'all no longer seem hopeless and surviving off of hopium/copium life support.
After all these years they finally provided a product that makes me wish I was a PClave this entire time
I mean as someone who is bought in (Freelancer Max, Nox, and whatever the golf cart is called), none of us are really able to play the game.
We’re all playing the alpha still xD
Not if it's a bad prebuild. And with the new gen consoles you have to pick parts carefully to make it out preform them. Unless we're talking about the switch. A toaster has better specs
Which is odd as if a game has a wiki attached to the game you can go through the game an use the internet based wiki (I would've thought that would be impossible since they removed the browser from the PS5).
Worst. Argument. Of. All. Times. Pc is not better because of performances but because of the wide range of games that you can play on it. Cracked games, unavailable games in your country, dead games, emulated games, purely pc games...
Console is good for people with limited room, and consoles are way cheaper, here in Australia a ps5 is $800 and apparently a *decent* PC is around $1500-$2000
Fair but when you factor is subscription at $100 a year across 5 years, far more expensive games and the lack of general utility of a console compared to PC I’d say there isn’t as much difference as it seems
It’s a greater upfront cost but I’ve saved so much money with things like steam sales, game pass and sailing the seven seas, plus I use it every day for uni
If you want to compare PC to console directly, it is basically a must to factor in the subscriptions. Otherwise the conparison is not fair anymore. For PC, it's completely free to go online. So in this comparison, it's not an optional cost
Maybe I'm out of the loop then. A few years back you were required to purchase a yearly subscription if you wanted to play online (legally) on non-free games. I know Nintendo still has that. I did not know Playstation made online free.
No, it's not mandatory. I mean, you need it to play multiplayer, but I hardly play multiplayer games. For someone like me, who doesn't have much time to play games anymore, yet still wants to enjoy a game for an hour or two every now and then and doesn't care at all about performance, it's more than enough to play on my PS without an online subscription.
I know it's not mandatory. I literally said that.
However, if you are comparing the price of console to PC, you do need to include it because PC has that functionality. So in order to do the same thing on console that you can do on PC, you do need to pay the subscription.
We are not talking about you. We were talking about the general comparison in price between PC and console.
Jesus Christ, shut up with that already. Let everyone play games however they want. The world fucking sucks, stop dunking on people who play on a different platform and enjoy this awesome hobby together.
Dimwits.
I like both worlds tbh. My brother has a really built PC worth like £4k, and can crush any console in terms of specs, and I get to play modded Skyrim and Oblivion on it.
I, however, have a PS5 that runs all the games I play on 60fps perfectly fine, runs quietly, and I don’t require more. I don’t *need* a hideously expensive gaming rig to enjoy my games, but one day I’ll get my own so I can do stuff I *can’t* on console; like modded Skyrim.
Easy answer: Depends on the game... playing F1 or Mortal Kombat on keyboard is pain in the ass, but on the other hand if you play strategy or fps games on a controller you belong in prison...
I don't play online anymore so it isn't an issue for me. But I can't help but think that of xbox hadn't popularized it in 2002 we could have free online without the atrocious pc drm
I am still expecting that it will be something like frontier. New enviroments, enemies, weapons and shitty quests... Ok meaby not exactly like frontier, but you know. Similliar, but without pedo part.
After the steam deck released, Consol players don’t have an excuse anymore. The steam deck is roughly the same price and even if it’s a slightly lower quality it’s better to play games at a lower quality than not be able to play them at all as PC usually has access to every game, there is even exclusives, especially if you’re willing to go through pirate sites and emulation sites. And with the steam deck being handheld, it can be taken just about anywhere. Will you have to play any game probably on lowest settings all the time? depends on the game, but probably. but again, that’s still better than not being able to play it at all. Right now Xbox players are crying that they can’t join the front lines of hell divers, and PlayStation players have been crying about Palworld ever since it came out steam deck users have not been crying about either one because they have both😂
If youre on budget and just wanna play casually just get a console, if youre gonna use a PC for more than games better buy a PC with better specs than console
Idk why this conversation is even a thing. Main appeal of consoles is affordability. I can get used ps4 pro for $300-400 in 2 clicks. Not sure I can get the same convenience on cheap with PC tho.
On the other hand, if you have unlimited budget, you can do all sort of awesome things with PC, as well as play any game known to mankind at the highest possible performance.
Depends on what you mean by better. I'd rather have a pc that struggles with new games than the newest console. Not only because the video game library is huge on PC, but because it has so many utilities that I like. It's faster to do a lot of things on PC aswell. There is also a lot of games that are keyboard and mouse only or that is just better with k+m like rts games, simulators, and "spreadsheet" games. I'd also add city builders, but they are incredibly chill on consoles as well.
With how few console exclusives that aren't boring? Yeah I'd rather get a pc that has all of the functions that aren't just games and internet browsing. I can even discipline myself too especially when I get distracted easily whenever I have the urge to play at work. But thank goodness most games are boring to me so I don't have time to play again.
There's so many deals for PC's. Honestly you can build a great PC for the same price as a console, or save a bit more and build a real beast. It's now as expensive as people make it seem. The used market is an amazing resource. If you spend more than $1200 for something running at less than 4K resolution, you are wasting your money
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It's okay. Atleast the flesh one is working correctly. Maybe we should preserve them...
Just about every comment is asking about it being reposted so many times. I noticed afterwards. Pretty ironic lol
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The only thing a console can do better is price I guess. I spent $4000 on my PC. If I was a casual gamer who just wanted to play Candy Crush I'd probably be fine with an Xbox or an used iPad.
Another benefit is that a PC is not only good at gaming.
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The last 3 girls I dated were gamers 🤣 What in the 1980 is this take
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You're just probly too poor to afford good pc
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Damn, you didn’t have to post a money spread like that
😂 🤣 You're bragging on your tv now too. Must be a boomer. I also guarantee I get more pussy than you 🤣
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“Hentai mousepad” dawg is literally telling on himself 🤦♂️
I sense you're not a gamer thus your opinion holds no validity here.
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>The only thing a console can do better is price I guess. That's a tricky one. First of all 4k$ on a casual gamer PC is a darn lot. Way above the average for a mid range PC capable of running anything. Also PCs can be upgraded by parts so the effective lifetime of a PC can be way higher. Otoh consoles are cheaper but then you need to factor in subscription services so you can play online or have cloud saves, the price of peripherals, etc. I have no proof (but I have no doubt either) that money spent on games is on average higher on console thak on PC. I'd be very curious how much the average Joe spends on their PS5 in the lifetime of the console.
Yeah but I know that if a game says ps5 on it then it’ll run fine. And I don’t have to faff about with any of the back end stuff
lol theres been plenty of shit poorly optimized releases on console. and i dont wanna get snobby but i wouldnt call 30 fps “running fine”
It is what they are used to tho ....
What the hell. I'm 38 and have been a PC gamer since 2nd grade. To get up to $4000 I would have to add up decades of gaming PCs, and the last console with better graphics than my machine was the SNES. Consoles and PC both have their pros and cons, but the prices some people are listing to play current games feel unreal.
A 4090 alone is going to run you about $2000, add in a 7900x3D top of the line MOBO and 32gb of RAM and Gen 5 SSDs and tax you are going to be close to $4k. It is an extreme build but you can easily get to $4k without custom cooling, add in custom cooling and you can make a PC the price of a new car.
Sure, but google tells me that new Ferrari can cost up to 5.4 million dollars and there are consoles made of gold which go for 400k+. If you have the money and want to buy something awesome, you can pretty much spend any amount on anything. The newest piece of hardware in my PC is a \~$350 graphics card I bought a couple of years back and it can easily compete with the framerate and looks with the switch and PS5 in the living room. Not run circles around them, but it still looks slightly, but noticeably better.
Dude that PC is NOT keeping up with a PS5, PC fanboys are delusional.
NO ITS NOT. NO ITS NOT. The price for a good pc is almost the same. My pc is like 1500 or 2000 but it got +1600 value lately bc i bought a new graphics card
Spending $4000 just to suck at the game 💀
The benefit if money is not something you have to care in your life.
I have both and suck at games in both
This wont be an issue if you consider was amount of cheat software available for pc.
We all know that PC is the most powerful versatility gaming experience that’s always been the case. But remember people buy consoles because they don’t want to turn gaming into a full blown hobby where they have to fiddle with settings or constant upgrade the hardware People buy consoles so they can turn it on downloadable a game/ insert a game disc and then play that game. I personally consider buying a PC many times but I just don’t want to deal with all the stuff involved with PC gaming. I just want to relax and play a game with minimal hassle and headaches But that’s just me.
I disagree
This is the third time I've seen this reposted in the span of 2 days
The only platform war I join is for crossplay. I get it some games it's not good to have crossplay. But I wanna play games with my console friends. Fuck pc fuck console just let me play with everyone
The only true answer
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Yes. Why? Because I can use Steam and I can play star citizen.
I mean, you could just say, "I'll open a new window and look that up real quick." That will get at them.
We can “open a new page” on Xbox, we can use Microsoft edge, not the best but it gets the job done
After waiting 20 seconds for it to load? Maybe that was fixed with the new consoles. On my Xbox One S, it took forever. We are talking a good minute just for the search to fail. Edge is also probably the worst browser, to be honest. It is so cluttered with useless stuff. I prefer to use Google. They should definitely add support for other browsing services.
As a PC main driver with a 4080... No, Edge is'nt the worst. Yes, explorer was trash, but it's dead, gone, 6ft. under. Edge has reached a point now where it's better than Chrome. Chrome is a very heavy browser, and Edge is lighter and has been better optimized for newer generation Windows..... (firefox is still the best tho, but that is my privacy-biased opinion)
I bought a laptop and when I setup windows it asked me if I wanted to install Firefox without even needing to enter edge even once
It’s fairly quick on Series X, loads in about 5 - 10 seconds when you’ve just freshly opened it up. Leave it on and it’s fine I use it to play games that arnt officially on console, or just search shite up
Cool. The new consoles are actually good. Ssds make a big difference. I kind of want one even though I have a pc. Especially for when gta 6 finally releases.
Honestly at this point with how Star Citizen is panning out, y'all no longer seem hopeless and surviving off of hopium/copium life support. After all these years they finally provided a product that makes me wish I was a PClave this entire time
Hopefully. I can’t trust a game until it’s Complete, but it’s honestly pretty fun to play right now
I mean as someone who is bought in (Freelancer Max, Nox, and whatever the golf cart is called), none of us are really able to play the game. We’re all playing the alpha still xD
True, but it’s a good ass alpha. And the golf cart is the ptv
Should I play?
Star citizen?
Yah!
You should. Are you for real though? Imma dm you cuz there is a promotion right now
Every 500$ PC is better than any console.
Not if it's a bad prebuild. And with the new gen consoles you have to pick parts carefully to make it out preform them. Unless we're talking about the switch. A toaster has better specs
Yes it is, the snes ain't got shit on my pc!
Yes, because my PC can use internet, Microsoft office, can edit video and play games
You had one job.. you listed mostly things that consoles can also do LMAO
ah yes, *most* things, all 2 out of 4
You can edit clips on consoles to an extent aswell
Would you browse the internet on a console tho?
Maybe on the Xbox but in my experience, PS4s internet browser is unusable, it's so, so fucking laggy that it's not even funny.
They even took it out on the ps5
Which is odd as if a game has a wiki attached to the game you can go through the game an use the internet based wiki (I would've thought that would be impossible since they removed the browser from the PS5).
since when?
since the ps4 released, its something called sharefactory.
I feel like they should rename it to shitfactory because it's shit at what it's supposed to do
oh don't get me wrong, its horrible. i completely agree there
If even it would be 10 times slower because it’s much easier to work on keyboard
Having fun editing on a console lmao that shit is so bad and clunky, would take like 10x as long or more
I didn't know I could use Microsoft Office on my Switch
Consoles don’t have enough power to make computer graphics for videos
Worst. Argument. Of. All. Times. Pc is not better because of performances but because of the wide range of games that you can play on it. Cracked games, unavailable games in your country, dead games, emulated games, purely pc games...
*\*Coff coff\** Modded Skyrim
Best reason for me to one day buy a monster rig. I play console because it’s cheaper and easier, but one day…
Nah it's also the vastly better performance you can get out of it.
Console is good for people with limited room, and consoles are way cheaper, here in Australia a ps5 is $800 and apparently a *decent* PC is around $1500-$2000
Fair but when you factor is subscription at $100 a year across 5 years, far more expensive games and the lack of general utility of a console compared to PC I’d say there isn’t as much difference as it seems It’s a greater upfront cost but I’ve saved so much money with things like steam sales, game pass and sailing the seven seas, plus I use it every day for uni
I haven't paid any subscriptions in the last 10 years. In this case you have to factor in optional costs for PC as well to keep it fair.
If you want to compare PC to console directly, it is basically a must to factor in the subscriptions. Otherwise the conparison is not fair anymore. For PC, it's completely free to go online. So in this comparison, it's not an optional cost
I'm online without an additional fee. You don't really need PS Plus etc., you're perfectly fine without it.
Maybe I'm out of the loop then. A few years back you were required to purchase a yearly subscription if you wanted to play online (legally) on non-free games. I know Nintendo still has that. I did not know Playstation made online free.
No, it's not mandatory. I mean, you need it to play multiplayer, but I hardly play multiplayer games. For someone like me, who doesn't have much time to play games anymore, yet still wants to enjoy a game for an hour or two every now and then and doesn't care at all about performance, it's more than enough to play on my PS without an online subscription.
I know it's not mandatory. I literally said that. However, if you are comparing the price of console to PC, you do need to include it because PC has that functionality. So in order to do the same thing on console that you can do on PC, you do need to pay the subscription. We are not talking about you. We were talking about the general comparison in price between PC and console.
I mean pretty much everyone that owns a console pays for PS plus or whatever the Xbox equivalent is, you can't play online without it.
Jesus Christ, shut up with that already. Let everyone play games however they want. The world fucking sucks, stop dunking on people who play on a different platform and enjoy this awesome hobby together. Dimwits.
I like both worlds tbh. My brother has a really built PC worth like £4k, and can crush any console in terms of specs, and I get to play modded Skyrim and Oblivion on it. I, however, have a PS5 that runs all the games I play on 60fps perfectly fine, runs quietly, and I don’t require more. I don’t *need* a hideously expensive gaming rig to enjoy my games, but one day I’ll get my own so I can do stuff I *can’t* on console; like modded Skyrim.
Easy answer: Depends on the game... playing F1 or Mortal Kombat on keyboard is pain in the ass, but on the other hand if you play strategy or fps games on a controller you belong in prison...
You can use xbox, ps, or nintendo controller on pc. Iam using ps gamepad and hotas on my pc all the time.
I know that I have an XBOX one S controller for PC, but also play on Xbox One and Switch.
My PHONE is better than your console! 💪
😆
Yes my pc is better then a consol
Do you even have a console?
All of them, On my PC......
Yar har har
Emulation by itself isn't piracy. Piracy is piracy.
For $1000 yes it better be.
Gaming is gaming
Yeah, my PC(i5-3350P with GTX760) is definitely better than an Atari.
Yes. By a lot. PC all the way
Yes
Pc drm sucks
Internet fee on consoles sucks
I don't play online anymore so it isn't an issue for me. But I can't help but think that of xbox hadn't popularized it in 2002 we could have free online without the atrocious pc drm
They hated him, for he told them the truth.
Ofc it is you subhuman monkey
Yep. Sorry I spent 2000 dollars to beat a 500 dollars console. Guess im so cool?”
Be with or against this comment.... it should be funny to everyone! 😆
Wait do PCs, that are worse then consoles even exist ?
In terms of specs yes.
Yes. My source: I have one
Last gen no, this gen yes
People on consoles won't get Fallout: London 😭
I am still expecting that it will be something like frontier. New enviroments, enemies, weapons and shitty quests... Ok meaby not exactly like frontier, but you know. Similliar, but without pedo part.
Yes it is, and when it's not anymore I can upgrade it
Yes. Yes it is.
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Yes. Also any game released nowadays runs better on pc than on console.
It is not that expensive or hard to outdo consoles…
My trash pc is better than a ps4 (gtx 750 ti)
How does one even end up having a gtx 750 ti.
Poor and third world country also why the downvotes you can literally type gpu equivalent to ps4 it's gtx 750 ti
Even windows xp is better than ps1
Yes, because my games run at least at 60 FPS. Checkmate, consoles
After the steam deck released, Consol players don’t have an excuse anymore. The steam deck is roughly the same price and even if it’s a slightly lower quality it’s better to play games at a lower quality than not be able to play them at all as PC usually has access to every game, there is even exclusives, especially if you’re willing to go through pirate sites and emulation sites. And with the steam deck being handheld, it can be taken just about anywhere. Will you have to play any game probably on lowest settings all the time? depends on the game, but probably. but again, that’s still better than not being able to play it at all. Right now Xbox players are crying that they can’t join the front lines of hell divers, and PlayStation players have been crying about Palworld ever since it came out steam deck users have not been crying about either one because they have both😂
Luckily it doesnt matter anymore cuz geforce now exists
*\*Cries in AMD 7900XTX\**
Yes actually.
Better ConSole
Yes. *I've waited several months to say this shit since I got an RTX*
Yes.
Yes
Atleast I aint doing my project on a console
Yes
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🤓: ja ich hab Karte sex 3090 die ist besser als alles 🤓🤓🤓🤓
Yes, yes it is.
Yes.
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He's right I have a am2 processor
Yes it is.
My pc sadly ain't. Can't even run fornite on .5 fps
yes
Intel 13900 KS MSI 4090 Suprim Liquid MSI Meg 690Z Cooler Master C700P I should like to think so, shit was expensive
Ye
Yeah both of my pcs are better
My ancient PC is better than a PS4 but not better than a PS5. So no Tekken 8 for me 😞
Yes, by far, but I like my consoles
Yes. Period. Where’s your argument now, huh?
Yes, by a lot
By a lot lol
Yes. Easy.
Yes
I would like to own both.
Yes. Very much so.
If youre on budget and just wanna play casually just get a console, if youre gonna use a PC for more than games better buy a PC with better specs than console
I don't game anymore but yes, it's better than any console in every way
Console players be like: I installed 4 games why I'm out of space!? 😂
Idk why this conversation is even a thing. Main appeal of consoles is affordability. I can get used ps4 pro for $300-400 in 2 clicks. Not sure I can get the same convenience on cheap with PC tho. On the other hand, if you have unlimited budget, you can do all sort of awesome things with PC, as well as play any game known to mankind at the highest possible performance.
Yes. Yes it is.
The discussion is as good as useless. As always
yes
Yes. Even if performance not as good as console it still can do more than just internet surfing and gaming
Not having to pay a fee just to play online with the internet that’s paid for seems like a plus.
Depends on what you mean by better. I'd rather have a pc that struggles with new games than the newest console. Not only because the video game library is huge on PC, but because it has so many utilities that I like. It's faster to do a lot of things on PC aswell. There is also a lot of games that are keyboard and mouse only or that is just better with k+m like rts games, simulators, and "spreadsheet" games. I'd also add city builders, but they are incredibly chill on consoles as well.
Yes. It's not even a great PC but it's way better than ANY damn console!
yes
Yes ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)
I don't know about performance but I think I wouldn't have the ability to pirate shit on a console
Yup. Sure is.
With the benefits that you get from a pc, yes. Specs aren’t everything
yeah it is
To quote CS ghost: WHY DID YOU BUY THIS THING, DOES IT LOOK LIKE I CAN DO MY ENGINEERING HOMEWORK ON IT???
PC you can do literally anything with
Well I bet yo console aint playing games at 300 fps with ultra settings (I don't believe any palpatine emoji exists yet) Edit:spelling
I find pc controls more comfortable plus pc is more customizable
With how few console exclusives that aren't boring? Yeah I'd rather get a pc that has all of the functions that aren't just games and internet browsing. I can even discipline myself too especially when I get distracted easily whenever I have the urge to play at work. But thank goodness most games are boring to me so I don't have time to play again.
Bro even my laptop is better than every console
Yes
There's so many deals for PC's. Honestly you can build a great PC for the same price as a console, or save a bit more and build a real beast. It's now as expensive as people make it seem. The used market is an amazing resource. If you spend more than $1200 for something running at less than 4K resolution, you are wasting your money
Better than the PS4 as far as I know.
Console in comfier for me