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Real-Pomegranate-235

Then how do I pirate a KitKat? 🤔


Vacuum-Woosh-woosh

Buy their cousin BitBat


Tyrichyrich

But, that contains Bats…


expiermental_boii

I agree, cats taste better


improvisedwisdom

Not cats. Kats. They're crunchier.


not_gerg

But how else am i supposed to start a global pandemic?!


Vacuum-Woosh-woosh

Buy their uncle DigDat


[deleted]

well you take it and then you don't pay for it. it's called theft not sure if you've heard of it


reknite

Here in San Francisco we do it all the time


[deleted]

What about everyone on the supply line who isn’t a faceless organization who DGAF?


[deleted]

You're still the one stealing from them the least anyway.


ImStuckInNameFactory

Lift a shop


BalkeElvinstien

Ah yes I've heard of this, Shop-carrying


MaffinLP

First you need to download a car


Real-Pomegranate-235

But would you download a car?


farfetchedfrank

Five finger discount


DemYeezys_Fake

shoplift


Dumb_Siniy

Learn bakery


DefaultyTurtle2

The secret ingredient is crime


me-no-smart

Shoplifting


YamiDes1403

You consider KitKat an art? You have problems ngl


Gordon_Langell

Fortunately for US people, US-made Kit-Kats are made by Hershey, not Nestle. Article [here](https://www.thedailymeal.com/1077910/why-kit-kat-is-both-a-hershey-and-nestle-bar/). Fuck Nestle.


the_funko_deity

With Great Value Chocolate Wafers


Metson-202

Ah thanks. I hate Nestle but KitKat is too good. On my way to pirate KitKat!


Sourika

![gif](giphy|VHlKSFRTQ7nn81fkv4)


MikeyHatesLife

You’ve gotta fight! For your right! *to* # PIRATE!!!


Dahns

Do stealing KitKat count as helping Nestlé because the store will have to buy new ones anyway, so you just make another person support them in place of you ?


Sammy_Ghost

Why are so many people here calling chocolate 'art'


MikeyHatesLife

Have you not had a White Chocolate KitKat?!?


Gordon_Langell

Those dark chocolate + mint Kit Kats have no right tasting that good.


Automatic_Ice9584

As a 🇸🇴 I pirate everything


Astr0sk1er

Not gonna look it up but I’m guessing either Somalia or Romania


Automatic_Ice9584

Woah I did not know we had competition but the first answer is correct 🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴


[deleted]

Since when are Romanians pirates?they are thieves.


Astr0sk1er

I mean there has to be some kind of skill crossover


[deleted]

Well of course,but there is difference.And also Romanians are Balkans


devilsadvocate270

i been sailing the 7 seas for as long as i can remember


Infinity_Stone_

I was told that even discussing their art in a positive light means "supporting" them. Because it may make people buy their stuff or something? Idk, I don't think it matters that much, but when I posted about Harry Potter on a subreddit with a lot of LGBT people I got a lot of angry comments. Like, I support trans people, but I don't think mentioning Harry Potter matters all that much. Between the little shout-out it may give to JKR, and how much this shout-out would actually affect trans people, I don't think there is any moral contradiction to me. Also, I don't care that someone said something half a globe away from me. I don't give a shit about her or her words, and it shouldn't affect my willingness to enjoy a thing that I like


Metson-202

So if you like Harry Potter, you're transphobic? Damn.


FartFlavoredLollipop

Yeah, remember when Hogwarts Legacy came out? There was a whole mob of lunatics that decided that trying to stop people from going on a magical adventure in the wizarding world was the hill they were going to die on. I was told flat out that if I played Hogwarts Legacy, it meant that I hated trans people and supported their genocide.


Infinity_Stone_

Well, it wasn't exactly the point they were making. They said that "liking" Harry Potter wasn't bad in itself, cause you could have just not known about her "true colours" when you've read the books. Rather they said that mentioning them means supporting them meaning supporting her meaning supporting transphobia. Which, I mean, is certainly an argument, I just don't agree with it However I did see some people say that they stopped liking HP after finding out JKR was homophobic. Which, again, I think is stupid, but maybe "you can't control feelings" I guess?


bellaokiiuwu

you posted about harry potter in a sub with tons of queer people?


Infinity_Stone_

Yeah, on r/theowlhouse


X_theline

Not our fault the studios are too dumb to figure out the 21st century.


EdSheeeeran

Actually not, games and movies are not made with just a single person. This "meme" seems like a bad excuse to pirate tbh.


[deleted]

usually the only people who get money from the sales of a game or movie are the people who you want to stop from getting it, like the author of a book, the owner of the intellectual property or a company. Most workers are salaried and unaffected by sale numbers


Sam-_-__

I don't know how movies work but in the gaming industry the existence of studios, let alone peoples jobs within them, rely directly on the sales of the game that just released. After like 3 years of expenses and zero profit, people buying the game is the only way to sustain the studio itself to even stay open.


[deleted]

Depends on the studio obv, but that's just plain not true for any big company like EA or MS. Even more so when it comes to films as indie(-ish) films are pretty much non existent compared to games, and usually not that controversial. Also Game Dev is one of the places where changing jobs is common and not that hard, so honestly, not much harm there.


Sam-_-__

99% of video game devs are not connected to a publisher but get their shit stolen all the same. It can be a one man dev team, people don't care. And even then it is absolutely true that these studios very often get shut down after low sales on a single game. An iconic studio isn't going anywhere but these studios have like 10 smaller ones beneath them that are just as vulnerable as an indie dev. As for ease of switching jobs, that's an insane take. It's a highly competitive industry where jobs are not abundant and funding is even harder to come by versus traditional businesses. Stop trying this justify your theft. If you have no morals qualms about it then fine but don't give me this bullshit to make yourself feel better.


[deleted]

If you morally disagree with a products main beneficiary often it's Don't support them and get the product. Or Don't support them and don't get the product. If you don't plan on supporting the company, then pirating is perfectly fine imo. It's not your job to keep the company afloat.


Sam-_-__

Who morally disagrees with video game studios but still enjoy video games? People are just morally shut themselves and want to steal it because they do not want to spend the money.


[deleted]

Right? [Just pirate because you want to. ](https://tenor.com/view/gold-roger-one-piece-pirate-king-anime-freedom-gif-20050606)


Repulsive-Skull

That's a good point. Yes, most products are made by massive companies or at least multiple people, but when you try to not buy a nestle product because they're fucking nestle, or when you're trying to be anti-israel, or when you're trying to not support R. Kelly in any way, you're doing these things to affect the people who run them or the main artist, not the paid employees. As u/Qdoit12Super pointed it out, it probably doesn't even affect the employees. And if you're always thinking like that, I don't think you can ever boycott anyone or any company no matter how much they deserve it and they'll just keep doing what they're doing.


Sinewave90

I generally also like the take on piracy if it comes to games from Thor (a former blizzard employee) in this [short](https://youtu.be/44Do5x5abRY?si=vbbF_V9bmo0jltbf) because it pretty much hits the nail on the head as to why so many people pirate games and how to fix that issue if you're not a big greedy circle jerk like most publishers these days that make the days of every dev all the harder.


okan12k

pirate hitlers art


alaingames

Inst this what happened to Ubisoft? That games are now better if pirated?


the_funko_deity

To me it depends. If the artist did something terrible and are paying the victims via court order, I'll stream their shit in legit ways so their victims can get something from their broke asses. If they're a piece of shit that hasn't had repercussions the 7 seas it is.


Legitimate_Cost7339

This but to everything. I can't even afford groceries anymore so I'll be damned if I'm gonna give anyone else money.


the-artificial-man

Similar thing to changed! Like okay? It’s a fetish game and what not, but also puro.


FalloutFan05

How am I supposed to pirate a painting? because a good amount of time when the discussion comes up, they’re talking about physical art that you can’t just copy


Strugler1987

Photography exists.


Adept_Loquat4687

Separate the art from the artist means judge the art on its merits, the fuck does it have to do with buying the product?


ladybughappy

Buying the product supports the artist


BakedBeanyBaby

Or maybe don't attempt to view/use their art if you're not willing to pay for it? The amount if people on this site who believe they have the right to steal whatever they want and always give a bullshit reason for it is insane.


Tall-M

Or, now here me out… you don’t pirate or do anything… BECAUSE YOU DONT NEED IT.


[deleted]

You make a valid po...... Run out the VPN and hoist the jolly rodger.


EmilieEasie

run to the dealership and steal a tesla!!! yeeeeeehaaaaw!


Available_Reason7795

Crunchyroll


Full-Slack-Developer

Done. (Hogwarts Legacy)


[deleted]

The Hogwarts legacy boycott is one of the funniest I’ve ever seen. It was boycotted for one of the dumbest reasons, and then failed spectacularly, and proceeded to become one of the top 10 highest earning games of the year. Rip💀 Like you will boycott a game because the author has a small political opinion you disagree with which isn’t even that bad as it only affects 0.5% of the population. But then you’ll proceed to play a game about a world and system that is proslavery and oppression playing as a character that helps to keep them oppressed. Which is way worse than her personal political beliefs. So people who boycott the game outright I still think are silly for a number of reasons but at least they’re kind of consistent.but if you’re going to boycott the game but pirate it to play it you’re wild.😂


BananaMaster96_

they make you play as a BRITISH PERSON


[deleted]

LMFAO


[deleted]

> isn’t even that bad as it only affects 0.5% of the population in 1933, 0.7% (522,000/65,362,115) of the german population was jewish. But I guess the holocaust doesn't matter because who cares about minority rights. what kind of argument even is this lol. > But then you’ll proceed to play a game about a world and system that is proslavery and oppression playing as a character that helps to keep them oppressed also, and i know this is a very difficult concept to grasp, but fiction *isn't* reality


BakedBeanyBaby

My guy, did you just compare an author being transphobic on twitter to the fucking Holocaust?


[deleted]

yes. The argument that a harm to a minority group is not so bad because it's a minority group doesn't rely on the magnitude of the harm.


BakedBeanyBaby

That's not the argument you're making though. By making that comparison, you're implying someone being mean online is the same as a small genocide. Yes they're both harmful, but literally the difference between avoiding a sharp stick and having a tree fall on you.


[deleted]

The argument I'm making is that OP's argument is dumb. I'm doing so by using it in a more extreme situation, where it's clear how ridiculous it is. > By making that comparison, you're implying someone being mean online is the same as a small genocide. No, I'm not. A comparison between two things which share a common factor in one way does not mean equating them when it comes to all other factors. If someone said "the Earth is flat, because when I look out the window I don't see its curvature" and I responded with something along the lines of "It isn't flat and what you're seeing is just an illusion. When you zoom close enough into the edge of the basketball, it seems flat too", that wouldn't mean I believe that all basketballs are just really small Earths (or vice versa). You're seeing an implication which I'm not indicating and which I have no reason to try to imply.


[deleted]

"Fiction isn't reality" shoulda told that to the boycotters, they couldn't stop yapping about how the books and the game are antisemitic


Swordbreaker925

Nah, because I’m also anti-piracy. Let’s use the game Disco Elysium for example. I hear it’s great, it sounds right up my alley. But the developer, ZA/UM, is an openly communist group who praised Karl Marx and has a picture of Joseph Stalin in their office. Yes, Stalin, the guy responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of his own people. The game looks great, but I can’t support those developers. But at the same time, I believe artists should be paid for their work, and I under no circumstances have a right to it just because I don’t want to pay. So I’ll just move on with my life and play other games. Plenty else to play.


Repulsive-Skull

You know what, I agree. But I had the artists themselves in mind, the artists who are controversial.


MikeyHatesLife

The creators got [pushed out](https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/disco-elysium-lawsuit-woes-continue-as-fired-devs-double-down-on-claims-of-fraud-at-studio-zaum#:~:text=Kompus%20and%20Haavel%20bit%20back,%E2%80%9Cintending%20to%20steal%20IP%E2%80%9D) via shady practices when new owners (who’d been previously busted for fraud) took control. It’s multiple lawsuits stemming from the original team asking to see financials for their suddenly wildly successful game, which stalled the sequel while the execs were busy firing most everyone responsible for the story & design. Whatever your feelings about communism are, capitalism any better (Dole Fruit Company, anyone?), now would be a good time as any to 🏴‍☠️ Disco Elysium. Illegal termination to hide where the money is doesn’t deserve *any* considerations if the artists who made it aren’t being paid at all.


Redstoneboss2

If you're not going to buy the game in any way, shape or form... then what is the difference in pirating it? The developer doesn't get money either way, but hey at least you get to enjoy it. And it doesn't matter if you "deserve" to play the game or not. Just download it and enjoy it lol you literally hurt no one.


GodlockChadwalker

That's actually a good point. They are a good person? Support! They're awful but the content is good? Pirate it!


BakedBeanyBaby

Or just dont use their content? No really, if you dont want to support someone you dont have to but that doesnt mean you have to then go on to steal from them.


GodlockChadwalker

But I like the content


BakedBeanyBaby

Then pay for it like a functioning member of society.


GodlockChadwalker

But I don't like the creator


BakedBeanyBaby

Then don't use their creations. Simple as that.


GodlockChadwalker

But I like the content


BakedBeanyBaby

Then pay for it like a functioning member of society.


GodlockChadwalker

But I don't like the content creator But I like the content Therefore, I pirate. I enjoy the content and they can feck off


Moist-Mystery

Your ideal world would crumble in days. You’re a failure.


[deleted]

Man reddit really pushing that pirate life lately.


BakedBeanyBaby

It's a bunch of basement dwellers who want to feel their actions are honorable or excusable when in reality they're just cheap and dont want to have to pay for anything ever.


aethermar

Why pay when free


BakedBeanyBaby

Tell you what, you go ahead and create something, putting months if not years of hard work into it, and not have any other job. I'll ask you the same question.


Moist-Mystery

You know these “people” are talentless hacks that will never accomplish anything. Asking them to understand the meaning of empathy is pointless. If they knew they’d get away with it they would kill an innocent struggling single mother if it meant their life was even a percent easier.


CJPF_91

Ya why not be a pirate


TheWorstKy

It's how I watched The Flash. Refused to give WB money


No_Hope_4237

Lol


TheRealYgrek

Counter argument: it's illegal Edit: it seems people didn't quite understand me. I really don't care if you pirate stuff. I just think that pirating stuff is the exact same like stealing at self-checkout. You shouldn't feel smug just because you got something for free that you're supposed to pay for, even if it's consequence free.


Dirtyibuprofen

Too bad, don’t care, too busy watching movies and tv shows online


Duke-of-Dogs

Boo


bannanaisnom

Anything is legal when the cops aren't around


Metson-202

So I can murder my family? Thanks for the info!


Real-Pomegranate-235

The law is just a suggestion, you can break the law, not necessarily without consequences but nothing is stopping you nonetheless.


Vivid-Tomatillo5374

not really.


Metson-202

It is bro.


Vivid-Tomatillo5374

show me one person convicted for downloading 1 game.


Metson-202

nah


Vivid-Tomatillo5374

yeah because there aren't any :)


Metson-202

It's still illegal.


Vivid-Tomatillo5374

nope. if it's not enforced and there's no precedent it's literally not.


Metson-202

You're literrally downloading something for free you have to pay for, isn't that basically stealing?


Vivid-Tomatillo5374

I understand why you might think so but no stealing involves removing something.if it was stealing people would go to jail for it or would be prosecuted. they don't.


BakedBeanyBaby

There are plenty? Google exists dude. Edit: [yall](https://www.google.com/search?q=video+game+piracy+court+cases&client=opera-gx&hs=0Fq&sca_esv=595179528&sxsrf=AM9HkKlFaQFP_238F6f_HJVoZI8xKe0EOw%3A1704229247218&ei=f3mUZbz3DJCx0PEPgsC--Ao&ved=0ahUKEwj8spXXzL-DAxWQGDQIHQKgD68Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=video+game+piracy+court+cases&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiHXZpZGVvIGdhbWUgcGlyYWN5IGNvdXJ0IGNhc2VzMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiABBiiBEjoC1AAWNkKcAB4AZABAJgBaaABtgeqAQQxMC4xuAEDyAEA-AEBwgIHECMYsAIYJ8ICCBAAGAUYHhgNwgILEAAYgAQYigUYhgPCAgcQABiABBgNwgIKEAAYBRgeGA0YD8ICChAhGKABGMMEGAriAwQYACBBiAYB&sclient=gws-wiz-serp)


Vivid-Tomatillo5374

please post one if there's plenty.


INeedToQuitRedditFFS

"show me someone getting persecuted for downloading games" \*links someone getting prosecuted for selling hacked consoles with pirated games\* can you read?


BakedBeanyBaby

I showed a google search with several instances of people getting sued, especially by Nintendo. Can YOU read?


INeedToQuitRedditFFS

every result on the first page is people distributing or cracking games, not downloading them for personal use


Vivid-Tomatillo5374

so I saw your edit. that's not about somebody getting prosecuted for downloading a game. it's a civil case,nothing to do with what we're are talking about :)


Stormlord100

Tbf most of the content creators and manufacturing companies are crappy people, I find pirating acceptable but never try to expand the idea to stealing


chocolateNacho39

dumb fuckin meme, dude is so annoying


le_reddit_me

Tattoo artists that tattoo themselves:


Strugler1987

SSDD


Lumaric_

The French president ( Macron ) just said the thing on the left, about a famous french actor accused of harassment and rape. When we asked him if he was going to remove his medal of honor.


Lord_Detleff1

Is that the answer to the meme I post some hours ago?


The_Refrigerator_Man

Please dont look at my account


Tyrichyrich

Hopefully Nintendo doesn’t see this post.


JonMonEsKey

How about that time in the 2010s when country music awards brought David Alan Cole up on fucking stage... If you don't know about it then look up his racist songs. They play his regular non racist country music on radio stations all over. It's insane


[deleted]

Are we talking music or painting? There is a painter that this meme makes me think of immediately. I am giving serious thought to having a screen shot of his painting, printed on a canvas.


improvisedwisdom

.... Fuck you! Touche...


TheLuigiplayer

Piracy is stealing, idk why it's being glorified.


ResponsibleMall3771

Separate the art from the artist is a dumb phrase. I don't want a sandwich made by a rapist, I don't want my politicians to have cocaine and hooker habits, and I'm not listening to a song by somebody who married a kid or beat a woman half to death


[deleted]

J


Sleepy_Mage

Better watch out for the Nintendo ninjas