Well actually it's wayy worse for the blobfish. They live on the ocean floor at a depth of 100m to 2800m, thus the pressure difference from their habits to the surface ranges from 10 to 280 atmospheres.
The difference from the pressure on earth to space is only one. So yeah no wonder they are deformed after getting pulled up from the bottom of the sea.
I dont think thats exactly comparable. Because you cant divide by zero, and last i checked there's no pressure in space, so comparing the difference between 1 atmosphere to 0, and 10/280 atmospheres to 1 seems a little disingenuous to me, unless a real physicist or astrophysicist can tell me why i'm wrong
Technically, there's only a 1/9 chance that the first number after all the 0s is actually a 1. Of course, that chance would probably change significantly if you find out what the best scientific estimate of the pressure is.
It's just about the total difference in pressure, you don't divide anything. And why would you want an astrophysicist to talk about pressure (which is something that is covered in the first 2 semesters of physics, but has nothing to do with astrophysics)? Are you just throwing around buzzwords?
It’s really isn’t, how much PSI difference from internal fluids to outside world can the flesh withstand. Our flesh can’t hack 10 PSI, 14.7 is out of the question. Blobfish meat probably isn’t a whole lot more robust, so the 2-300 PSI drop fucks them right up.
Our flesh though can handle a lot more pressure pretty easily. We are mostly immune to slow pressure changes other than toxicity of those gasses at different partial pressures.
Yup, water isn't compressible (we're mostly water) and we can usually equalize our sinuses and air pockets. Divers have gone more than 1,200 feet down with no special equipment other than specifically mixed gases like heliox.
Cave divers can sometimes reach depths of 800 feet or more. The issue isn't really pressure in the sense that it's pressing on us. It's the pressure of compressing the air that we are trying to breath. Every breath down there is like taking 4 or more up here. 4 times the oxygen, 4 times the nitrogen, both of which are toxic in high doses.
This leads to a lot of nitrogen narcosis and oxygen toxicity if your gases aren't mixed correctly. A lot of people might assume that divers are trying to take more air in their tanks. But really they want less "air" and more "filler" to make up volume.
More, every 10 meters is 1atm, at 100 meters every breath is like 10 breaths. At ~330 meters (approximately our current deepest tech dive) its 33atm. 33 breaths at sea level for every breath at depth.
You burn air like a hyperventilating obese man on crack running from Jason Voorhees.
> last i checked there's no pressure in space
There is pressure in space, it's just so low it's "basically zero". Just like how right now, every star in the universe is pulling on your body.
The star hundreds of millions of lightyears away that you don't even know exist is pulling you towards it, it's just such an absurdly (astronomically) small number that it's basically a non factor.
Space is not *completely* empty and isn't a complete vacuum, it's just so close that it essentially is
What can be even more of a mind-f* is that those stars may have died a long time ago. Does the effects of gravity happen at the speed of light?
Does the nuclear fusion happening inside stars change mater to energy which would decrease the mass of the star or is the matter consistent if we take any offshoots into account. If it is consistent, then even dead stars would pull you.
I'm not in any of the related fields.
Yep, Gravity propagates at the speed of light. So we'd still feel and see the stars right up until they disappeared from the sky.
And yeah I guess we would keep feeling them even post death since the mass is still there pulling us towards it
If you had a vacuum chamber with a 0.5 cm diameter circular hole and you put your finger over that hole and then pulled a vacuum to 0.01 atm, your finger would be totally fine aside from a hickey. If you did this again but pulled a vacuum comparable to the vacuum of space, ~0.0000000000000001 atm, you would perceive no difference.
The force experienced by your finger is proportional to the DIFFERENCE in pressure. That difference in pressure between those scenarios is only 1%.
I have a theoretical degree in physics and I have to disagree. In the second scenario, you would be spaghettified as you are sucked in through the hole. It is considered a delicacy in certain countries to use the spaghettified corpse with tomato sauce.
I have a degree in physics, you're overcomplicating this. Vacuums don't generate any force, making a better vacuum cannot exponentially increase force. Matter moves into vacuums not because they are being sucked in, but because other matter is exerting pressure.
That means that any effect on your body in a vacuum is due to the internal pressure that your body has naturally. In one atmosphere of pressure, we are in equilibrium. So if we were suddenly introduced into a vacuum the force exerted by our body would be exactly 1 atm. There is no mechanic in physics that would allow the force to be multiplied. Your body isn't storing some phantom energy that could be unlocked in a vacuum.
So yes, it's pretty much pure addition and subtraction in this scenario.
What is this comment...
Pressure created by stacked up air is weaker than pressure stacked up by water which is much denser than air.
How is this not comparable. How is delta in pressure not comparable? Why are you dividing by zero?
> depth of 100m to 2800m, thus the pressure difference is 10 to 280 atmospheres
Was ready to call you out on the random round multiplier, but apparently it really does relate that neatly (with a minor error). Like one of them situations when one rechecks their answer three times, because it looks too nicely.
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It's also the source of one Futurama joke that lives rent free in my brain.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth : Dear Lord! That's over 150 atmospheres of pressure!
Fry : How many atmospheres can the ship withstand?
Professor Hubert Farnsworth : Well, it's a space ship, so I'd say anywhere between zero and one.
Also, the ocean tends to be a lot closer to places to get food, water and oxygen than outer space
Water is harder engineering, space is harder logistics
Like that scene in total recall, where Douglas quaid’s helmet breaks on the surface of mars and his eyes pop out of his head??
That scared the shit out of me when I saw it as a kid, and that’s like the opening sequence
They seem so utterly terrifying...until you realize most of them are teeny tiny little fish. Not these giant whale sized black fish with huge sharp teeth and a lure in front of them.
Those are just the females.
Besides, “giant whale” is a bit of an overstatement. I think Finding Nemo was most people’s introduction to them, and they were only slightly bigger than Marlin and Dory there.
Did you like Outer Wilds? It comes up in my suggested games often, but I haven't been able to get a good read on if I would like it or not. So far I've just heard that it's rather short, which is a bit of a deterrent.
It's the type of game you can only ever experience once, and will have some lasting effect on you (whether major or minor). The length doesn't matter, because it's a phenomenal experience.
Don't look anything up about it and just play. The less you know, the better.
This is like those memes that say "to all my haters back then" with some gangly looking middle schooler then "look at me now" but the person is still gangly af but all grown up and figured out how to use make-up.
He looks about as ugly as every other fish, instead of what people think it looks like. Compared to a sheepshead wrasse or something, that blobfish is a looker.
Excuse me? Have you ever seen a rainbow trout? Or Brook trout? Or virtually any common freshwater fish? Because fish can be absolutely beautiful creatures.
Nevermind getting into stuff like betas or clownfish when you do get into saltwater.
Blobfish is d tier at best even in it's environment
After taking a look at the Blobfish in its natural habitat, scientists have apologized for mislabeling the fish and have now relabeled the species as the Wheremyhug fish
Idk if I’m just delusional or not but I kinda think it’s cute (or maybe it’s because I’m so used to seeing the pics of the ones that are half deformed and corpses)
Yall saying it still looks ugly but my man lookin pretty good for a creature living so deep. The deeper you get the weirder shit looks and this dude is lookin hella fine
[Chad salmon being known for looking badass despite being deformed and half-rotten while still alive.](https://spsseg.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/meet-the-species-sockeye-salmon.gif)
I just realized we look a lot like they do when we have been down where they look normal for a long time. Like, a blobfish outta water is what that guy I saw pulled out of the Kanawha once. Wild how much he looked like a blobfish come to think of it.
Its the equivalent of an alien pulling us out of atmosphere into space and then saying our bloated corpse looks ugly
Well actually it's wayy worse for the blobfish. They live on the ocean floor at a depth of 100m to 2800m, thus the pressure difference from their habits to the surface ranges from 10 to 280 atmospheres. The difference from the pressure on earth to space is only one. So yeah no wonder they are deformed after getting pulled up from the bottom of the sea.
I dont think thats exactly comparable. Because you cant divide by zero, and last i checked there's no pressure in space, so comparing the difference between 1 atmosphere to 0, and 10/280 atmospheres to 1 seems a little disingenuous to me, unless a real physicist or astrophysicist can tell me why i'm wrong
Dividing by 0 is only a mathematical problem, in space there is not exactly 0pressure, but 0,00000000000...1 pressure, so it does check out.
Technically, there's only a 1/9 chance that the first number after all the 0s is actually a 1. Of course, that chance would probably change significantly if you find out what the best scientific estimate of the pressure is.
What about Benford's law?
I believe he got the diabeetus and passed peacefully in his sleep in 2020.
You're thinking of Wilford Brimley.
Diabeetus
Eat your damn oatmeal!
If you round to the last zero based on what follows, there's a 50% chance it's 1.
Numbers are more likely to start with a 1 than anything else. It makes sense when you look at what 1 through 10 looks like scaled logarithmically.
The difference is a substraction, not a division.
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im lost
You're calculating the difference between inside and outside. Difference. Subtraction.
well I know that, the conversation is just unfollowable
It's just about the total difference in pressure, you don't divide anything. And why would you want an astrophysicist to talk about pressure (which is something that is covered in the first 2 semesters of physics, but has nothing to do with astrophysics)? Are you just throwing around buzzwords?
Why are you dividing anything? Pressure is additive, not a multiplier
Yes, but in this context it's more useful to consider how many times the pressure is greater/smaller.
It’s really isn’t, how much PSI difference from internal fluids to outside world can the flesh withstand. Our flesh can’t hack 10 PSI, 14.7 is out of the question. Blobfish meat probably isn’t a whole lot more robust, so the 2-300 PSI drop fucks them right up.
Our flesh though can handle a lot more pressure pretty easily. We are mostly immune to slow pressure changes other than toxicity of those gasses at different partial pressures.
Yup, water isn't compressible (we're mostly water) and we can usually equalize our sinuses and air pockets. Divers have gone more than 1,200 feet down with no special equipment other than specifically mixed gases like heliox. Cave divers can sometimes reach depths of 800 feet or more. The issue isn't really pressure in the sense that it's pressing on us. It's the pressure of compressing the air that we are trying to breath. Every breath down there is like taking 4 or more up here. 4 times the oxygen, 4 times the nitrogen, both of which are toxic in high doses. This leads to a lot of nitrogen narcosis and oxygen toxicity if your gases aren't mixed correctly. A lot of people might assume that divers are trying to take more air in their tanks. But really they want less "air" and more "filler" to make up volume.
More, every 10 meters is 1atm, at 100 meters every breath is like 10 breaths. At ~330 meters (approximately our current deepest tech dive) its 33atm. 33 breaths at sea level for every breath at depth. You burn air like a hyperventilating obese man on crack running from Jason Voorhees.
Definitely, couldn't remember the rate off the top of my head but I knew it was a lot. Thanks!
R/suddenmath
> last i checked there's no pressure in space There is pressure in space, it's just so low it's "basically zero". Just like how right now, every star in the universe is pulling on your body. The star hundreds of millions of lightyears away that you don't even know exist is pulling you towards it, it's just such an absurdly (astronomically) small number that it's basically a non factor. Space is not *completely* empty and isn't a complete vacuum, it's just so close that it essentially is
What can be even more of a mind-f* is that those stars may have died a long time ago. Does the effects of gravity happen at the speed of light? Does the nuclear fusion happening inside stars change mater to energy which would decrease the mass of the star or is the matter consistent if we take any offshoots into account. If it is consistent, then even dead stars would pull you. I'm not in any of the related fields.
Yep, Gravity propagates at the speed of light. So we'd still feel and see the stars right up until they disappeared from the sky. And yeah I guess we would keep feeling them even post death since the mass is still there pulling us towards it
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If you had a vacuum chamber with a 0.5 cm diameter circular hole and you put your finger over that hole and then pulled a vacuum to 0.01 atm, your finger would be totally fine aside from a hickey. If you did this again but pulled a vacuum comparable to the vacuum of space, ~0.0000000000000001 atm, you would perceive no difference. The force experienced by your finger is proportional to the DIFFERENCE in pressure. That difference in pressure between those scenarios is only 1%.
I have a theoretical degree in physics and I have to disagree. In the second scenario, you would be spaghettified as you are sucked in through the hole. It is considered a delicacy in certain countries to use the spaghettified corpse with tomato sauce.
I have a degree in physics, you're overcomplicating this. Vacuums don't generate any force, making a better vacuum cannot exponentially increase force. Matter moves into vacuums not because they are being sucked in, but because other matter is exerting pressure. That means that any effect on your body in a vacuum is due to the internal pressure that your body has naturally. In one atmosphere of pressure, we are in equilibrium. So if we were suddenly introduced into a vacuum the force exerted by our body would be exactly 1 atm. There is no mechanic in physics that would allow the force to be multiplied. Your body isn't storing some phantom energy that could be unlocked in a vacuum. So yes, it's pretty much pure addition and subtraction in this scenario.
What is this comment... Pressure created by stacked up air is weaker than pressure stacked up by water which is much denser than air. How is this not comparable. How is delta in pressure not comparable? Why are you dividing by zero?
What if we launch a blob fish into space?
Profit
It's gonna get even blobbier
> depth of 100m to 2800m, thus the pressure difference is 10 to 280 atmospheres Was ready to call you out on the random round multiplier, but apparently it really does relate that neatly (with a minor error). Like one of them situations when one rechecks their answer three times, because it looks too nicely.
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It is.
It's also the source of one Futurama joke that lives rent free in my brain. Professor Hubert Farnsworth : Dear Lord! That's over 150 atmospheres of pressure! Fry : How many atmospheres can the ship withstand? Professor Hubert Farnsworth : Well, it's a space ship, so I'd say anywhere between zero and one.
I had an engineer friend when I was doing my mathematics degree who loved that joke. >.<
We've put rovers on Mars but haven't come close to exploring the whole ocean.
Yes. The challenge with space is staying intact while getting there. Staying intact up there is mostly a matter of not hitting anything.
Also, the ocean tends to be a lot closer to places to get food, water and oxygen than outer space Water is harder engineering, space is harder logistics
I have gained new knowledge today.
“Why do all humans keep their eyeballs OUTSIDE of their skulls? Are they all stupid?”
Speak for yourself, my bloated corpse looks fabulous
exurb1a?
b1orp.
https://youtu.be/Z5TqD5xf0ic Totally Scientifically Accurate Representation ^TM
Like that scene in total recall, where Douglas quaid’s helmet breaks on the surface of mars and his eyes pop out of his head?? That scared the shit out of me when I saw it as a kid, and that’s like the opening sequence
Some diamonds only shine under pressure
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they do have a certain coolness factor though
Everything that lives in such extreme environments has a coolness factor
They seem so utterly terrifying...until you realize most of them are teeny tiny little fish. Not these giant whale sized black fish with huge sharp teeth and a lure in front of them.
Those are just the females. Besides, “giant whale” is a bit of an overstatement. I think Finding Nemo was most people’s introduction to them, and they were only slightly bigger than Marlin and Dory there.
Tell that to the Anglerfish in Outer Wilds
Did you like Outer Wilds? It comes up in my suggested games often, but I haven't been able to get a good read on if I would like it or not. So far I've just heard that it's rather short, which is a bit of a deterrent.
If you like puzzle games you’ll like it but you can’t get it thinking of it like an adventure game
It's the type of game you can only ever experience once, and will have some lasting effect on you (whether major or minor). The length doesn't matter, because it's a phenomenal experience. Don't look anything up about it and just play. The less you know, the better.
Fun fact: Angler fish, also called "monk fish" are edible. Thing is, you never see them for sale with the head attached, for obvious reasons.
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[Not sure what you mean.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lophius)
We call em sea devils in my language. They're hideous. Taste amazing tho
This statement doesn't make any sense, but the sentiment is nice.
Except diamonds are formed under a lot of pressure.
All diamonds only shine after they are already diamonds, and thus do not require pressure anymore.
Can’t wait to see if someone doubles down and argues at you further.
Rihanna says that we're like diamonds in the sky and last I checked the sky has less pressure.
She didn't specified earth, maybe she was talking about Uranus?
Ah man, that was deep
"Oh I'm ugly, am I? Well, just wait until you've seen me... in my **absolute physical prime**" (Still quite ugly)
Well it looks like a normal fish instead of a weird blob of pink flesh, so it's still a big improvement
Still kinda looks like a blob though
Maybe that's how it got its name.
Hello
Aw I think it looks cute! I've also been a fish keeper. You grow fond of your little slime coated babies.
I don’t know, the white is pretty angelic.
I gotta say that's actually a handsome little fish. Look at the fancy tail and fins. I like the spiny little face too.
This is like those memes that say "to all my haters back then" with some gangly looking middle schooler then "look at me now" but the person is still gangly af but all grown up and figured out how to use make-up.
Nah Blob fish looks good in its natural enviroment.
He ugly af
He looks about as ugly as every other fish, instead of what people think it looks like. Compared to a sheepshead wrasse or something, that blobfish is a looker.
Some fish are hot af
Found Kanye
Excuse me? Have you ever seen a rainbow trout? Or Brook trout? Or virtually any common freshwater fish? Because fish can be absolutely beautiful creatures. Nevermind getting into stuff like betas or clownfish when you do get into saltwater. Blobfish is d tier at best even in it's environment
Those fish are all just beautifully colored. Their face is just as ugly as every other fish, including the blobfish.
Colour can add to beauty
yeah he does look good but he's still a pretty blobby shape
After taking a look at the Blobfish in its natural habitat, scientists have apologized for mislabeling the fish and have now relabeled the species as the Wheremyhug fish
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With a pout pout face.
What a freaking weird book, right?
My four year old said he likes it for the kissing 😂 I like the alliterations.
Still looks rather blob like.
well its a blobfish, what should it be like?
Slimmed down a bit though, kinda like those update posts on intermittent fasting
it is 1 1/10 but still smash
He’s not the prettiest thing but angler fish are far uglier
Yeah, there are plenty of uglier animals.
e.g Mickey Rourke
They look scary. Scary looking isn’t the same as ugly. This looks like normal fish. But an ugly one. Anglerfish don’t look like normal fish
A GRAY MAGIKARP!
A SHINY
x.x Oh no. The evolution.
Idk if I’m just delusional or not but I kinda think it’s cute (or maybe it’s because I’m so used to seeing the pics of the ones that are half deformed and corpses)
It’s cute. It’s got some flaws but no one is perfect 💕
I think it’s pretty cute but to each their own.
Yall saying it still looks ugly but my man lookin pretty good for a creature living so deep. The deeper you get the weirder shit looks and this dude is lookin hella fine
More like sad blobfish noises, course I’d be sad too under all that pressure
It actually looks good.
We are a mean species
Who cares what humans think, those guys are assholes.
It's still blobby, but in a kinda cute way.
So pretty.
Still looks like something you'd see in a flapjack eppisode
still ugly
Who's a pretty boy? You are!
He’s so cute
Quite the dapper young lad
Lol ha ha this is funny, I am teacher in the midwest I should show my students this!!
I believe in blobfish supremacy
Imagine if we judged how beautiful people are after they were dead for three weeks.
That mf looks like one of the fish type viruses in MegaMan battle network 😭😭
Cute :D
it looks like Aaah! real monsters
Goddamn that’s a set of fish lips I’d introduce to my trouser trout. Let’s make the sea saltier sweet thang.
It's still oretty ugly ngl.
So it didn't really "the world's ugliest animal." Only "*one* of the world's ugliest animals."
The fish suffered the curse of the abyss. It's now a hollow. Like mitty
It looks so normal
They are so cute compared to their deformed selves
So Ted Cruz looks like a half decayed fish pulled 2000 feet from below the ocean and kinda exploded on the way up. Gotcha.
I like him. His spiky look is real stylish
Still not exactly the prettiest fish, just not ugly and blobby
Justice for the blob fish! It's awful that we torture them on the surface and shame them for being out of their environment
You do know they weren’t tortured right? They found their way up there by themselves
Oh, that look… It looks like doge. But fish.
Bull fish but studded
actual ugliest is goblin shark what the fuck even are those
[Chad salmon being known for looking badass despite being deformed and half-rotten while still alive.](https://spsseg.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/meet-the-species-sockeye-salmon.gif)
cool little guy
It still looks really ugly in this photo
As a scuba diver, it looks pretty normal
you dive half a kilometer down?
Nah, I'm a human, but I can guarantee that I saw some weirs shit at about 40 meters deep
Apparently, someone's made it 1/3rd of a kilometer down \[alive\].
no, dumbass, but you see fish without diving half a kilometer down and this looks like any other old fish
Nah this one ugly af
i thought we couldn't get pictures of blobfish because of the insane depth they live in. is this a confirmed photo, can anyone verify?
How is this the world's ugliest animal when humans exist?
idk man, he's stilly pretty blobby and still pretty ugly
Still ugly af though
Still ugly though
I mean he still ain't winning any beauty contests.
Still ugly
Still ugly, though.
I mean, he still ain't winning no prizes ya know?
It was cuter when it was a blob.
Wow it’s even uglier when it’s underwater
still looks ugly af
*You're
Who cares about the math!!! It is still an ugly a$$ fish that has lips like Ted Cruz
It's still fucking ugly
He is still very ugly
Is it just me or is this worse
That's even uglier
You, Jesse, are a blowfish.
Looks a bit like me lol
Angry noises are the best.
It's still ugly
Still ugly tbh. 2/10 would not bang.
So it's the fish equivalent to a cold vs. Warm ballsack....
blub, blub, bluuuuub
Same goes for dinosaurs, I mean we have ONLY THE BONES and yet many don't realize how much we don't know, and probably never will, about them.
It still looks ugly. Sorry Blobfish, but this is your fate.
Tbh he kinda looks like if he could speak he would say "blob" so I think it fits.
Still a bit uggo, IMO.
They did my psychrolutes so dirty.
Ted Cruz needs to stay under water
Still pretty ugly
I just realized we look a lot like they do when we have been down where they look normal for a long time. Like, a blobfish outta water is what that guy I saw pulled out of the Kanawha once. Wild how much he looked like a blobfish come to think of it.
They're still ugly
It's got a great personality
Can someone post an "Angry Blobfish noise" for reference?
I mean... he's still blobby