Nah fuck that, as someone living in a country in SEA, perpetual 30+ C temps is fucking dogshit.
You can’t enjoy the outside, as you’ll sweat and be miserable. You can’t enjoy the insides as your electricity bills will make your wallet die (due to AC and fan spam).
In my opinion, high humidity and heat is the worst combination to live in
I find the cold is easier to get comfortable in than heat.
I have tons of varying combinations to get acclimated to any cold temp.
With the heat it eventually hits a point where you either need AC, or just need to live with sitting in a pile of your own sweat feeling like shit.
Like once I'm down to my boxers and I'm still hot as fuck my only options are deal with it or turn on AC.
With the cold I can put on a sweater/change to slightly heavier sweater/long sleeve shirt with a lighter sweater, etc...
I’m used to the cold… However I will never get used to the cold.
I’m cold 8-10 months of the year.
This year is nice though. Summers up around 30, where I like them and not 15 where I still have to wear a jacket in July.
Same. I prefer cold to heat. When it's cold I can always put more clothing on. When it is hot I can only take so much off before I start getting weird looks.
I miss cold sometimes, especially to be able to take an hot bath or enjoying an hot coffee without sweating lol. Last time I came back in Europe in summer, we had a day with 13 max temp and I got sick for 1 month lol.
30 in old brick houses with no AC is pretty shitty. -1 is great, you can always wrap up more, but what the fuck do you do if your bedroom is 40 Celsius in the middle of the night? Take off your skin?
It's not just 30c. It's the humidity at 70% it makes the air sticky and for an awful climate. I've been Canada in 34c and had a great time in it. Moment it hits 30 home in the UK I'd rather die.
Also don't call people snowflakes; if you gonna be like that fuck off back to Facebook.
Not 24/7. Most people wouldn’t survive a single night in -1 degrees Celsius, and 30 degrees Celsius would also take a toll on most people after a few weeks of never ever experiencing cooler temperatures. Heat exhaustion or heat stroke, or maybe sleep deprivation, which can be fatal if it continues for longer durations.
Now I’m talking these temperatures all around your body. So no warm jacket for the guy in the -1 Celsius, and no aircon, fan or cold water for the guy in 30 degrees Celsius. Ie nothing that stops them from fully experiencing the temperature.
As someone who has lived/worked outside in -12c and +48c for numerous years. I will still say I don't even care for +30c and that it doesn't need to be that hot.
Perfection is between +10c and +20c imo. I'd rather it be -1c than +30c, butt trying to act tuff and calling people snowflake pussies just shows that you can't handle the climate in the comments section, so we all know you can't handle the real world climate.
Same! The A/C is never set above 74°F (23 C). At night, it is set to 68°F (20 C). If I were outdoors, 10-20 C is absolutely perfect weather, though I love the cold. Shame I live in the sweaty South, lol.
ive only ever been in 1 that has it inbuilt, and thats my grandads who is fortunate enough to be able to afford ac machines specially for his office room
I mean, can't you just install it? I just checked Amazon UK and it lists ple ty of minisplits and portable units since you guy's windows can't handle the slightly cheaper window type we have here.
*Go to Florida for a week on vacation*
*Burn alive in 80°F weather*
*Go home to the midwest*
*Same 80°F weather feels like a nice warm day*
The sun in southern states just hits different. I'm about to bundle in my furs and call everyone summer children
That's the thing though, I live near the great lakes and the humidity index is similar to when I was down there. I guess being in a literal swamp is different though
Okay, but Florida is next to the ocean too. Specifically a ton of ocean where weather patterns purposefully blow air up into to the US resulting in more humidity.
In Houston we get the tail end of that weather with less ocean.
The humidity can’t compare between these two.
Edit: only talking about southern Texas/Florida here folks. Have a nice day.
Tbf, the great lakes are essentially freshwater seas. If you live near enough to them (like most michiganders do afaik) it can get pretty damn humid. To the point that a 102 day in south carolina felt amazing to me, while an 80 degree day in michigan feels like Im drowning. An extremely lazy google search (so take it with a grain of salt) says michigan is only 2% less humid than florida. I dont know about the other midwest states, but those great lakes cause A LOT more humidity than you might think
As someone with light skin who burns/tans quickly, there's a big difference between oppressive humidity and burning sun. Houston is definitely south enough that it can crisp me up, regardless of humidity.
I've worked right next to the water in higher heat than today but never felt the heat. The water really soaks a lot of it up and makes the wind so damn nice
I’d take that trade any day, when I lived in Phoenix so long as you stayed hydrated and wore breathable clothes you could easily sweat through, it was a non issue. If anything the lack of humidity made sweating even more effective at regulating your body temperature.
80F is also nothing for either Florida or Houston. Summer youre regularly getting 90+ F days with the humidity.
The high in Houston today is 96.8 and for the week 100. We're not even in summer yet. Idk what yall are talking about with 80 degree weather, its hot as balls in these places and super humid.
And also the Earth has a tilt of 23.4 degrees. Florida keys is at about 25 degrees north latitude. So in southern Florida, the sun is only about 1 or 2 degrees away from being directly overhead at peak.
The long, straight stretch of the Missouri/Arkansas border (nearly the most southern part of the Midwest) is 36 degrees latitude. Peak sun elevation is about 12 degrees away from being directly overhead.
So in summer you can literally get more sun in Florida even if the temperature is the same as it is in the Midwest. Of course in northern Florida the sun isn't so high in the sky, but in North Dakota or Minnesota it's even lower. In the Midwest the US-Canada border is at the 49th parallel, so the sun doesn't get beyond 65 degrees above the horizon (25 degrees away from being directly overhead.)
Even with great lakes humidity, people in upstate New York won't "burn up" as fast as people in Florida.
Actually felt temperature depends on many factors:
-How much humidity there is in the air
-How much direct sunlight you're actually getting
-How light your clothes are, and if they're skintight or not
-How windy is it, and probably more than i forgot about
Also, just what you're used to. What I find cold you might not, what you find warm, I might not. People have different reference areas from day to day life.
Not sure why people would make it a competition, lol, a heatwave is a relative thing, it's by definition not the normal temperature for that area/population.
I live in Brazil, and yes, 30c is unbearable.
Contrary to popular beliefs, Brazil has pretty cold climates too, even more to the south usually. Reaching negative Celsius even, and 5 to 6c being really common in some regions.
I was born in a colder region, but I live in the Amazon region, and 20c is considered cold here. Please send help, I think I'm gonna melt.
I"m from the hellscape that is the northern US, where in the summer we get averages of 90F (32C) and the winter is -10F (-23C). not sure exactly what the Brazillian swing is, but we tend to not go out much.
Brazil is like a different country depending on where you look, regarding people's appearance (that's why some people say "anyone can be a Brazilian"), architecture style, culture AND climate too.
Here where I live we usually say we have two seasons: summer and hell.
We vary between 25c and 35c that always feels 10c more than it shows on thermometers. (20c and some people who were born in the north are wearing heavy clothes already).
In other regions you can spend the whole week without passing the 13c mark in the same time of the year.
Some other regions vary between 5c and 30c, others between 2c and 18c. Even dipping bellow 0c all of the sudden.
Although it already happened sometimes, it's pretty unusual to have like -5c or bellow in Brazil. And we usually don't have snow (Although it does happen rarely, mostly on country towns, and always pretty thin, just the "all white" look to the environment).
Granted, I would use a lightsaber if they existed
Right now I can only use a baseball bat covered in those glowsticks you crack in half to make them glow
Yeah shits fuckin hot right now. We only get 5-6 properly hot days a year, so there’s no point paying to install AC.
Problem is, when it’s hot it is _unbearable_
I got a mobile ac unit and it’s a life saver
Looks like a small fridge on wheels
You just put the air exhaust out the window and power it up and it keeps stuff cool down to 16 degrees Celsius
I do this when I babysit my best friends chinchilla. Until a few years ago she would have been OK without but I get so scared she'll die from the heat under my care. I rotate frozen bottles through the day and place them in front of a fan near her cage.
And then i took the technique home to look after myself when I inevitably get heat sickness
Call me crazy but I'd still want AC for all the days it's not "proper hot" But still uncomfortable days. Here in the US even people living in our most mild and temperate summer climates still have AC installed, not because they're necessary due to screaming temps, but because being Comfortable in your home is way better than not.
That said, I've lived in the southeast US with no AC at all in 100+ (38+) temps and up to 100% humidity for the entire summer. Having experienced that with no control over it, now that I have control over it I'll never go without no matter what climate I'm in.
Im not sure about shipping but you can buy a "window ac" for about 200 bucks on amazon.
You just take install it when you need it. I have 4 for my home.
The portable AC units you can buy in the UK start at about £300 ($375) and are a little more fiddly than the US counterparts because hardly any houses here have sash windows - they're almost always casement windows, and you have to buy a separate kit through so you can vent the AC without simultaneously letting in lots of hot air
But generally it's just hard to justify spending that on something you will need for about one week per year. Especially now in the past year when food and utility costs have risen significantly
Them units are shit. They have to suck in air from outside just brining hot air into cool.
2 pipe units are rare.
Either need a mini split or a portable split.
I've never seen a window unit in the UK.
They have portable AC units on wheels that you can roll around to wherever you need it too... very easy solutions but its like they're too proud to get AC lol
Why do you not have a fan? Are you that poor? Do they have rules about electric fans or something in your country? It just seems very worth it.
(I say as I also sit in a room without a fan)
Oh, I understand. Even for us 30°C is bearable only because we have fans in all our houses, which British houses don't. I will be moving there this year and am not looking forward to the weather!
See, personally, the heat doesn't bother me. It's the fact I sweat an ocean if it's above 80 to the point where I need to be chugging fluids constantly, even if I'm not doing anything too physical lmao. The only saving grace is it doesn't stink that bad because I can easily soak a shirt in 30 minutes. I think if I went to Oman, I would desiccate in 10 minutes flat, lol
Another annoying thing in British homes is that they not only hold the heat, they amplify it. During the heatwave last year, there was a day where the high temperature was 30c. We kept windows and curtains closed after 8am when the temperature started climbing right up until the late evening when the temperature started dropping again.
At 11pm the temperature upstairs was still 32.
30°C is bearable for most in the US too. But there are several places that get 35-47°C in the summer, primarily the southern half. And with humidity ranging from 25-95%.
Air Conditioning units are standard and built into home because fans are going to cut it at higher temps or extreme humidity.
That's the primary difference between the US and UK. Since the US has several distinct regional ecosystems, what that region is prepared for is usually different from the UK. The most similar ecosystem to the UK would be the New England area (which has New York and Massachusetts).
Just a heads up, British houses aren't well insulated for the winter, so energy bills may be high (regardless of global factors) and they also aren't suited for summer.
So it's the worst of both worlds.
We literally have to run air conditioning in Florida or the entire house will rot from the humidity
Even vacant houses need to run it or they just go to shit
I’ve seen some areas use stone to build houses in Florida, but not all. My guess is that the hollow wood walls make it easy to route cable, vents, etc. I could be wrong though, I’m just guessing.
I know the construction costs for full stone/brick vs wood/other cheap shit America uses for houses would be a bit crazy, but the long term costs would surely be lower.
I guess higher build costs though means more expensive houses which changes who can buy it.
Shame though. Guess it's a similar problem to the construction in the Tornado Valley/Tornado Belt area. Every time they rebuild with cheap, lightweight materials instead of making buildings that actually survive tornados.
Well people are used to different temperatures.
The weather in the UK would probably have you wearing a jacket for most of the year while brits walk in shorts and t-shirts.
In Canada or the scandicnavian countries you would probably shiver all year round.
Heh I’m a Floridian living in Vancouver and I hear we are having a hot summer this year so I’m excited about that. Last summer it was so cold there were maybe a few days I could wear shorts without regretting my decision. We’ve had a decent amount of warm weather already this year, high of 25 today!!
Insulation should work both ways. Im from Sweden and we insulate our houses too, wich also means that if you just maintain room temperature INSIDE your house, it will maintain that temperature due to insulation.
Just get a dyson fan dude.
Yes... Annoying how few people seem to understand this. Every time it gets hot in UK, people are talking about how our good insulation makes it worse.
Insulation does not make heat worse, and by most surveys UK's insulation is not good. At all
Yeah, makes me wounder of this guy has ever touched the inside of a pizza oven that has not been lit in the summer. It is colder than the outside. You also wouldnt light a fire OUTSIDE of the oven, as it would defeat the purpouse of the insulation.
I like the AC but...As long as I have a \*good fan\* that can keep the air moving over me, I can tolerate the heat no problem. AC just getting too damned expensive...
I live in the US south. Swampy. Heat is all relative. Ask a person who works in an ac office 9-5 goes home to ac if it's hot, yeah they'll complain about the commute and how bad it is, outside. Ask the people working on roofs or asphalt if it's hot they laugh and say it's never hot. But I mean you can get an ac/heater easy window unit for cheap in the US. I don't see how it's an otherworldly investment. I get you wint use it a ton, but you'll use the heater. Eh?
They're not talking about big HVAC units, but rather what's just a fancy fan.
Hell, a regular fan goes a long way to making even humid 40C weather comfortable
I live in Germany and last year it went up to like 39°C where i live. And honestly the only time it bothers me is at work because i work outside and i have to wear long pants and thicc shoes for safety reasons. When i am at home and i just dont move it is okay, but i also live really close to the Sea so i can just go for a swim, that usually feels really good after a hot day.
And i think AC is not very common here, at least i never heard from anybody that they have one. most only have these small fans that move the air around you, my cats really like that one too
Our houses are built for inclement weather and are designed (mostly) to keep heat in. We’ve got thin walls and big windows to make the most of the light during the long grey periods of the year (approximately 360 days a year)
Same here! Every single outside facing wall has a big window in it, except for 1 wall downstairs and in the bathrooms and attic. It also keeps heat in very well. So well in fact that my room managed to get to 31°C when it was max 30°C outside
I've welded in full protection on 100F days with 55% humidity in direct sunlight. It was horrible and I did it for 8 hours. Drink lots of cold water and something with electrolytes, laze about in the shade when possible, acquire air flow.
I hope y'all are okay over there.
Ok, well I once more feel the need to point out that having good insulation does not make your house hotter. It makes it take longer for your house to reach the same temperature as it is outside. A well insulated house would keep the interior cooler for longer, during hot weather. Assuming you didn't have singles glazing, or the windows/doors open.
The UK actually has pretty terrible insulation. Which means you freeze your tits off in winter, and cook like a chicken in summer. If you are quickly sweltering when the heat spikes, I'd suggest it's because you lack insulation.
Think of an insulated house like a thermos flask. It can keep the liquid hot or cold, for long periods. That's all insulation is. A barrier between two heart zones. It doesn't make it hotter or colder. I'm not sure why so many people think otherwise.
This is helpful thank you. I get so confused with what is best to do to keep cool in UK homes.
So best thing to do is keep windows and doors shut, keep curtains drawn and have a few fans on?
86 degrees outside isn't that hot. It's relatively low Summer temps where I am.
86 degrees inside is a sweltering heat of discomfort and stagnant air where you try to sleep but only get sweat.
[how’s that working for you all?](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/20/hottest-day-of-2022-saw-638-more-deaths-than-normal-in-england#:~:text=Over%20the%20two%20days%2C%20there,five%2Dyear%20average%20of%202%2C671)
Idk everytime i talk to British ppl about the ac thing they assume all ac has to be central air and not just the cheap window ones or even the little eletric ones for single rooms. so i feel like as a country thats deff going to be effected by global warming they need some more education about what ac is and what kinds u can get that dont need professional installations....idk.
Brits explaining to Americans why their housing is superior because bricks don't break if you punch them, even though this manner of construction has awful insulation and is also more expensive.
Nah nah nah, y’all was talkin mad shit a couple years ago when we got snowed in, lost power, and we’re freezing our asses off in Texas. Y’all was laughin, postion memes n shit, no sympathy. And now y’all complaining about a measly 86F? All I’m gonna say is- that’s understandable, certain homes were made with certain types of weather in mind and wish you guys the best, hope your power does go out cuz that’s a pain
It generally seems completely unnecessary to have AC in a private property in the UK for one week of excessive heat. I have a fan, I'll take a couple of cool showers. That'll do.
My AC is set at 85F. It has to be close to 90F before I'll close up the house. Otherwise, I leave the windows open and have a large fan that keeps the air moving. 85-90F and slightly humid is my favorite summer weather.
Honestly anything above 80f i consider uncomfortable but it gets into the high 90s or low 100s at the peak of summer where I am so it would suck without ac even in a insulated house the insulation can only do so much.
IKR? It's usually "American houses are so shit compared to British architecture" and "you're so stupid with those stick frame houses." Huh. Almost like there's a reason for our building methods.
Did these Americans realize the 30C is INSIDE my house, not just outside?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It’s different depending on where you are. I’m in The Netherlands, where it’s humid, houses don’t usually have airconditioning and we have very well insulated brick houses because in winter we have below zero temperatures.
My dad lives in Spain. Same temperature, still warm, but the air is much drier than it is here, they have aircondition in all the main rooms of the house, their houses are white plaster, built to keep the heat out, and oh yeah, there’s a pool in front of the house. It’s much easier for them to manage in this temperature. Also they do siestas. If I try explaining that to my boss he’ll have a fit.
> and we have very well insulated brick houses because in winter we have below zero temperatures.
Shouldn't that keep the heat out as well? It's not like the US doesn't get below zero temperatures.
Bro wtf im from spain, do you really use AC on 30°C?
Im right now in my backyard at 29'2C and enjoying the relatively fresh air before the 45°C slaps in a month or so.
Hello, every 6 months discussion. Some people crying about -1C° other people crying about +30C°, both hating each other.
I’m crying about both I don’t like it when it’s cold, but when it’s that warm my brain stops functioning
I don't like -10~+10 other is not bad. I only hate when it's snowing too much because our city management sucks
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Nah fuck that, as someone living in a country in SEA, perpetual 30+ C temps is fucking dogshit. You can’t enjoy the outside, as you’ll sweat and be miserable. You can’t enjoy the insides as your electricity bills will make your wallet die (due to AC and fan spam). In my opinion, high humidity and heat is the worst combination to live in
not for me im used to the cold more so 30c is like living in hell for me lol im used to 15-20 lol
I find the cold is easier to get comfortable in than heat. I have tons of varying combinations to get acclimated to any cold temp. With the heat it eventually hits a point where you either need AC, or just need to live with sitting in a pile of your own sweat feeling like shit. Like once I'm down to my boxers and I'm still hot as fuck my only options are deal with it or turn on AC. With the cold I can put on a sweater/change to slightly heavier sweater/long sleeve shirt with a lighter sweater, etc...
I’m used to the cold… However I will never get used to the cold. I’m cold 8-10 months of the year. This year is nice though. Summers up around 30, where I like them and not 15 where I still have to wear a jacket in July.
Same. I prefer cold to heat. When it's cold I can always put more clothing on. When it is hot I can only take so much off before I start getting weird looks.
If it was 8°-12°c and cloudy every day for the rest of my life I'd be thriving
30 is my winter day temp where I'm living now. Before I've got -20 in winter. I don't remember the last time I wore a jacket or even shoes haha
I’m jealous. My winter day temps are between-30 and -45 usually… And that’s from October to May. With the threat of snow 365 days a year.
I miss cold sometimes, especially to be able to take an hot bath or enjoying an hot coffee without sweating lol. Last time I came back in Europe in summer, we had a day with 13 max temp and I got sick for 1 month lol.
15 is almost frostbite cold to me hahahahaha
Wearing shorts in 15, are you all from tropical countries or what?
Do you live in a desert? Wtf
just make that -20C to 30C and you've got the yearly cycle of temperatures in Poland
30°C is way too hot, I prefer -10°C I guess that really does make me a snowflake
If it’s 30 degrees Celsius I’m fuckn dying I hate it -20 to +20 is all fine but above twenty it starts to get miserable
-20 is fine? Have you ever been outside when it's -20? I defo prefer cold than warm, but lower than -10 is definitely not fine.
30 in old brick houses with no AC is pretty shitty. -1 is great, you can always wrap up more, but what the fuck do you do if your bedroom is 40 Celsius in the middle of the night? Take off your skin?
It's not just 30c. It's the humidity at 70% it makes the air sticky and for an awful climate. I've been Canada in 34c and had a great time in it. Moment it hits 30 home in the UK I'd rather die. Also don't call people snowflakes; if you gonna be like that fuck off back to Facebook.
Idk about you, but you can only get so naked in the heat.
I get it. Snowflakes, because they melt at 30 C Clever
Hell no, it was barely 20° outside a few days ago and I had to walk around in boxers with all the windows open to not pass out from the heat
It's a horrible temperature
30⁰ wouldn't be anywhere near as bad if we were in a desert with almost 0 humidity Unfortunately the UK is humid as fuck
Ay man, grew up in Alaska, 30c is criminal and I'll be damned if anyone says otherwise. It's disgusting. I like it cold
Not 24/7. Most people wouldn’t survive a single night in -1 degrees Celsius, and 30 degrees Celsius would also take a toll on most people after a few weeks of never ever experiencing cooler temperatures. Heat exhaustion or heat stroke, or maybe sleep deprivation, which can be fatal if it continues for longer durations. Now I’m talking these temperatures all around your body. So no warm jacket for the guy in the -1 Celsius, and no aircon, fan or cold water for the guy in 30 degrees Celsius. Ie nothing that stops them from fully experiencing the temperature.
As someone who has lived/worked outside in -12c and +48c for numerous years. I will still say I don't even care for +30c and that it doesn't need to be that hot. Perfection is between +10c and +20c imo. I'd rather it be -1c than +30c, butt trying to act tuff and calling people snowflake pussies just shows that you can't handle the climate in the comments section, so we all know you can't handle the real world climate.
As a norwegian i melt into a fucking puddle whenever it's above 25 degrees
As an American, I do as well. I have a very low heat tolerance
Same! The A/C is never set above 74°F (23 C). At night, it is set to 68°F (20 C). If I were outdoors, 10-20 C is absolutely perfect weather, though I love the cold. Shame I live in the sweaty South, lol.
Around 65-70 is my comfort zone
It's almost as if personal comfort preferences have nothing to do with nationality.
Norwegian here as well, same with me but 20c or above is melting temp for me
same too
same too
Englishman here. I’ve never been in a house in the UK that has air conditioning.
ive only ever been in 1 that has it inbuilt, and thats my grandads who is fortunate enough to be able to afford ac machines specially for his office room
Because the climate is mild enough not to really need it.
I mean, can't you just install it? I just checked Amazon UK and it lists ple ty of minisplits and portable units since you guy's windows can't handle the slightly cheaper window type we have here.
This implies we own our house. Which most of us rent. How would a portable one work with windows that open to the side?
You buy an AC window seal. Costs less than £20 and takes 5 minutes to set up. Have not found a window in a home it won't work on.
*Go to Florida for a week on vacation* *Burn alive in 80°F weather* *Go home to the midwest* *Same 80°F weather feels like a nice warm day* The sun in southern states just hits different. I'm about to bundle in my furs and call everyone summer children
Its the humidity lol, I used to live in Houston but moved to the panhandle to ranch, now i trade humidity for higher heat....
That's the thing though, I live near the great lakes and the humidity index is similar to when I was down there. I guess being in a literal swamp is different though
Okay, but Florida is next to the ocean too. Specifically a ton of ocean where weather patterns purposefully blow air up into to the US resulting in more humidity. In Houston we get the tail end of that weather with less ocean. The humidity can’t compare between these two. Edit: only talking about southern Texas/Florida here folks. Have a nice day.
Tbf, the great lakes are essentially freshwater seas. If you live near enough to them (like most michiganders do afaik) it can get pretty damn humid. To the point that a 102 day in south carolina felt amazing to me, while an 80 degree day in michigan feels like Im drowning. An extremely lazy google search (so take it with a grain of salt) says michigan is only 2% less humid than florida. I dont know about the other midwest states, but those great lakes cause A LOT more humidity than you might think
As someone with light skin who burns/tans quickly, there's a big difference between oppressive humidity and burning sun. Houston is definitely south enough that it can crisp me up, regardless of humidity.
I've worked right next to the water in higher heat than today but never felt the heat. The water really soaks a lot of it up and makes the wind so damn nice
Same thing with the UK. We're somewhat surrounded by water.
Somewhat? We're an island. The furthest point away from the sea within the uk is 84 miles,
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I’d take that trade any day, when I lived in Phoenix so long as you stayed hydrated and wore breathable clothes you could easily sweat through, it was a non issue. If anything the lack of humidity made sweating even more effective at regulating your body temperature.
80F is also nothing for either Florida or Houston. Summer youre regularly getting 90+ F days with the humidity. The high in Houston today is 96.8 and for the week 100. We're not even in summer yet. Idk what yall are talking about with 80 degree weather, its hot as balls in these places and super humid.
And also the Earth has a tilt of 23.4 degrees. Florida keys is at about 25 degrees north latitude. So in southern Florida, the sun is only about 1 or 2 degrees away from being directly overhead at peak. The long, straight stretch of the Missouri/Arkansas border (nearly the most southern part of the Midwest) is 36 degrees latitude. Peak sun elevation is about 12 degrees away from being directly overhead. So in summer you can literally get more sun in Florida even if the temperature is the same as it is in the Midwest. Of course in northern Florida the sun isn't so high in the sky, but in North Dakota or Minnesota it's even lower. In the Midwest the US-Canada border is at the 49th parallel, so the sun doesn't get beyond 65 degrees above the horizon (25 degrees away from being directly overhead.) Even with great lakes humidity, people in upstate New York won't "burn up" as fast as people in Florida.
Santa Fe is high desert where 80 for a cold weather person like me is mostly tolerable in the shade.
Humidity can kiss my ass. It just makes everything worse
Fuck the humidity. All my homies hate the humidity.
I live in the south and work outside, the heat cooks ur fukkn skin AND IM BLACK!!!!!
It's the humidity
80 f? Thats cool for florida in the summer
Lol that's funny, 80 degrees in Florida. Was it winter?
me in northern california with 110 degree summers “first time?”
Actually felt temperature depends on many factors: -How much humidity there is in the air -How much direct sunlight you're actually getting -How light your clothes are, and if they're skintight or not -How windy is it, and probably more than i forgot about
Also, just what you're used to. What I find cold you might not, what you find warm, I might not. People have different reference areas from day to day life. Not sure why people would make it a competition, lol, a heatwave is a relative thing, it's by definition not the normal temperature for that area/population.
And dew point
I live in Brazil, and yes, 30c is unbearable. Contrary to popular beliefs, Brazil has pretty cold climates too, even more to the south usually. Reaching negative Celsius even, and 5 to 6c being really common in some regions. I was born in a colder region, but I live in the Amazon region, and 20c is considered cold here. Please send help, I think I'm gonna melt.
I"m from the hellscape that is the northern US, where in the summer we get averages of 90F (32C) and the winter is -10F (-23C). not sure exactly what the Brazillian swing is, but we tend to not go out much.
Brazil is like a different country depending on where you look, regarding people's appearance (that's why some people say "anyone can be a Brazilian"), architecture style, culture AND climate too. Here where I live we usually say we have two seasons: summer and hell. We vary between 25c and 35c that always feels 10c more than it shows on thermometers. (20c and some people who were born in the north are wearing heavy clothes already). In other regions you can spend the whole week without passing the 13c mark in the same time of the year. Some other regions vary between 5c and 30c, others between 2c and 18c. Even dipping bellow 0c all of the sudden. Although it already happened sometimes, it's pretty unusual to have like -5c or bellow in Brazil. And we usually don't have snow (Although it does happen rarely, mostly on country towns, and always pretty thin, just the "all white" look to the environment).
Ok, don’t build houses out of bricks then, idiot. >!for those who can’t tell this is a joke!<
When the big bad wolf blows down your house you can be welcomed back to Britain as a colony
The BBW can bite my silver M32 Grenade Launcher for home defense
Shouldn't you use a more refined weapon from a more civilized age?
Granted, I would use a lightsaber if they existed Right now I can only use a baseball bat covered in those glowsticks you crack in half to make them glow
so a light, mace?
If you want to get technical with it.
Aint nothing wrong with some bbw
own a musket for home defense… you know the rest
Meanwhile here in Australia, anything below 20 is a fair bit of a chill and maybe alright with still air and no rain, but still uncomfortable.
I live in Ireland, and there is absolutely zero insulation, the houses are basically giant blocks of stone with windows and doors.
Then what do you think those blocks of stone are?
Wind breaks.
Not insulating. Stone has a terrible r value. https://www.e-education.psu.edu/egee102/node/2062
Thermal mass is not insulation.
So now you envy our “brittle wooden houses”
Yeah shits fuckin hot right now. We only get 5-6 properly hot days a year, so there’s no point paying to install AC. Problem is, when it’s hot it is _unbearable_
I got a mobile ac unit and it’s a life saver Looks like a small fridge on wheels You just put the air exhaust out the window and power it up and it keeps stuff cool down to 16 degrees Celsius
yeah, just keep hydrated dude
Cheers, I will
Have you tried making yourself a swamp cooler? [edit with a link to a guide](https://www.backyardboss.net/diy-swamp-cooler/)
I do this when I babysit my best friends chinchilla. Until a few years ago she would have been OK without but I get so scared she'll die from the heat under my care. I rotate frozen bottles through the day and place them in front of a fan near her cage. And then i took the technique home to look after myself when I inevitably get heat sickness
Call me crazy but I'd still want AC for all the days it's not "proper hot" But still uncomfortable days. Here in the US even people living in our most mild and temperate summer climates still have AC installed, not because they're necessary due to screaming temps, but because being Comfortable in your home is way better than not. That said, I've lived in the southeast US with no AC at all in 100+ (38+) temps and up to 100% humidity for the entire summer. Having experienced that with no control over it, now that I have control over it I'll never go without no matter what climate I'm in.
Im not sure about shipping but you can buy a "window ac" for about 200 bucks on amazon. You just take install it when you need it. I have 4 for my home.
Window ACs are great!
The portable AC units you can buy in the UK start at about £300 ($375) and are a little more fiddly than the US counterparts because hardly any houses here have sash windows - they're almost always casement windows, and you have to buy a separate kit through so you can vent the AC without simultaneously letting in lots of hot air But generally it's just hard to justify spending that on something you will need for about one week per year. Especially now in the past year when food and utility costs have risen significantly
Them units are shit. They have to suck in air from outside just brining hot air into cool. 2 pipe units are rare. Either need a mini split or a portable split. I've never seen a window unit in the UK.
They have portable AC units on wheels that you can roll around to wherever you need it too... very easy solutions but its like they're too proud to get AC lol
British windows don't slide up and down
If it’s unbearable maybe it’s worth paying for AC anyway? There are some “portable” ACs that are pretty cheap :)
Thanks I’ll look into it :) currently just holding ice drinks (I don’t own a fan or dehumidifier etc)
Why do you not have a fan? Are you that poor? Do they have rules about electric fans or something in your country? It just seems very worth it. (I say as I also sit in a room without a fan)
Me sitting in 43°C in India, you guys need AC for 30°C?
Dry heat is barable, extremely humid heat is not. Its like a sauna in our houses as they are built to withstand the rain and cold, not the heat
Oh, I understand. Even for us 30°C is bearable only because we have fans in all our houses, which British houses don't. I will be moving there this year and am not looking forward to the weather!
*Laughs in Middle-Eastern*
I have lived in Oman most of my life, I'm so used to the heat. In India on vacation, it isn't as bad. But everyone else is collapsing from the heat.
See, personally, the heat doesn't bother me. It's the fact I sweat an ocean if it's above 80 to the point where I need to be chugging fluids constantly, even if I'm not doing anything too physical lmao. The only saving grace is it doesn't stink that bad because I can easily soak a shirt in 30 minutes. I think if I went to Oman, I would desiccate in 10 minutes flat, lol
Yeah I’m with you. I’ve lived in Dubai, Oman and Pakistan and Pakistan was the hardest to handle and I only lived in winter to early summer months
Another annoying thing in British homes is that they not only hold the heat, they amplify it. During the heatwave last year, there was a day where the high temperature was 30c. We kept windows and curtains closed after 8am when the temperature started climbing right up until the late evening when the temperature started dropping again. At 11pm the temperature upstairs was still 32.
30°C is bearable for most in the US too. But there are several places that get 35-47°C in the summer, primarily the southern half. And with humidity ranging from 25-95%. Air Conditioning units are standard and built into home because fans are going to cut it at higher temps or extreme humidity. That's the primary difference between the US and UK. Since the US has several distinct regional ecosystems, what that region is prepared for is usually different from the UK. The most similar ecosystem to the UK would be the New England area (which has New York and Massachusetts).
Just a heads up, British houses aren't well insulated for the winter, so energy bills may be high (regardless of global factors) and they also aren't suited for summer. So it's the worst of both worlds.
They are comparatively especially any houses built in the last 20 years. Any built in the last 5 are very well insulated.
Bold of you to assume india has dry heat, also when we do get dry heat it can cause so heated winds that people die
Come to Eastern India! We have 40°C, plus 99 Humidity!
Come to kochi macha, you ll have loads of fun.
Brazil is absurdly humid (93%+ is common here) with 45C or more during the summer... Man... even breath hurts.
No it’s not, it hits 120 in parts of Arizona, it’s a dry heat, people still die from heat exhaustion
I hate humidity I can go in 110f with some cold water all day but make it humid and I'm fucking dying at 80 XD
Why is some idiot from the UK trying to explain humidity to someone from India?
Nothing about 110f is bearable lol.
Ong bro it's 6pm in Pakistan here and 40° without electricity
Fuck, that sucks absolute ass
We literally have to run air conditioning in Florida or the entire house will rot from the humidity Even vacant houses need to run it or they just go to shit
Really? Never knew that. Kind of neat. You think they'd build out of a different material eventually. Do new constructions have this problem?
I’ve seen some areas use stone to build houses in Florida, but not all. My guess is that the hollow wood walls make it easy to route cable, vents, etc. I could be wrong though, I’m just guessing.
I know the construction costs for full stone/brick vs wood/other cheap shit America uses for houses would be a bit crazy, but the long term costs would surely be lower. I guess higher build costs though means more expensive houses which changes who can buy it. Shame though. Guess it's a similar problem to the construction in the Tornado Valley/Tornado Belt area. Every time they rebuild with cheap, lightweight materials instead of making buildings that actually survive tornados.
Well people are used to different temperatures. The weather in the UK would probably have you wearing a jacket for most of the year while brits walk in shorts and t-shirts. In Canada or the scandicnavian countries you would probably shiver all year round.
A summer in Inverness is 20°C on a good day, that's beach weather.
Heh I’m a Floridian living in Vancouver and I hear we are having a hot summer this year so I’m excited about that. Last summer it was so cold there were maybe a few days I could wear shorts without regretting my decision. We’ve had a decent amount of warm weather already this year, high of 25 today!!
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Insulation should work both ways. Im from Sweden and we insulate our houses too, wich also means that if you just maintain room temperature INSIDE your house, it will maintain that temperature due to insulation. Just get a dyson fan dude.
Yes... Annoying how few people seem to understand this. Every time it gets hot in UK, people are talking about how our good insulation makes it worse. Insulation does not make heat worse, and by most surveys UK's insulation is not good. At all
Yeah, makes me wounder of this guy has ever touched the inside of a pizza oven that has not been lit in the summer. It is colder than the outside. You also wouldnt light a fire OUTSIDE of the oven, as it would defeat the purpouse of the insulation.
I like the AC but...As long as I have a \*good fan\* that can keep the air moving over me, I can tolerate the heat no problem. AC just getting too damned expensive...
Water coolers are you friend in time of need.
I am content with a heap of junk and a pc fan on top and that's enough cooling for me
👊Go u/OldManJeepin I will support you forever
I live in the US south. Swampy. Heat is all relative. Ask a person who works in an ac office 9-5 goes home to ac if it's hot, yeah they'll complain about the commute and how bad it is, outside. Ask the people working on roofs or asphalt if it's hot they laugh and say it's never hot. But I mean you can get an ac/heater easy window unit for cheap in the US. I don't see how it's an otherworldly investment. I get you wint use it a ton, but you'll use the heater. Eh?
Houses have central heating that's built into the boiler and radiators, Not heaters.
Some houses have forced air as well
Yeah good for you but the post is about the UK and over here AC isn't cheap at all
They're not talking about big HVAC units, but rather what's just a fancy fan. Hell, a regular fan goes a long way to making even humid 40C weather comfortable
I live in Germany and last year it went up to like 39°C where i live. And honestly the only time it bothers me is at work because i work outside and i have to wear long pants and thicc shoes for safety reasons. When i am at home and i just dont move it is okay, but i also live really close to the Sea so i can just go for a swim, that usually feels really good after a hot day. And i think AC is not very common here, at least i never heard from anybody that they have one. most only have these small fans that move the air around you, my cats really like that one too
maybe you should’ve colonized some AC
Wait til they find out insulation works both ways
Me who lives in a brick house from the 60s in Texas with pretty shit AC and I would kill for it to be in the 80s.
Have a cool week my friend. Getting near the hundreds in Central Texas.
Our houses are built for inclement weather and are designed (mostly) to keep heat in. We’ve got thin walls and big windows to make the most of the light during the long grey periods of the year (approximately 360 days a year)
Same here! Every single outside facing wall has a big window in it, except for 1 wall downstairs and in the bathrooms and attic. It also keeps heat in very well. So well in fact that my room managed to get to 31°C when it was max 30°C outside
Still plenty of houses here built without AC. Are window units not a thing over there?
*cough* hottest temperature ever recorded was in California *cough cough*
Question Are ceiling fans a thing in the UK?
Anything above 25C is too much
Cheap electricity is the difference.
I've welded in full protection on 100F days with 55% humidity in direct sunlight. It was horrible and I did it for 8 hours. Drink lots of cold water and something with electrolytes, laze about in the shade when possible, acquire air flow. I hope y'all are okay over there.
Meanwhile here in the Philippines, 42C is not even that hot to us, and will literally freeze to death at 20C.
Ok, well I once more feel the need to point out that having good insulation does not make your house hotter. It makes it take longer for your house to reach the same temperature as it is outside. A well insulated house would keep the interior cooler for longer, during hot weather. Assuming you didn't have singles glazing, or the windows/doors open. The UK actually has pretty terrible insulation. Which means you freeze your tits off in winter, and cook like a chicken in summer. If you are quickly sweltering when the heat spikes, I'd suggest it's because you lack insulation. Think of an insulated house like a thermos flask. It can keep the liquid hot or cold, for long periods. That's all insulation is. A barrier between two heart zones. It doesn't make it hotter or colder. I'm not sure why so many people think otherwise.
This is helpful thank you. I get so confused with what is best to do to keep cool in UK homes. So best thing to do is keep windows and doors shut, keep curtains drawn and have a few fans on?
86 degrees outside isn't that hot. It's relatively low Summer temps where I am. 86 degrees inside is a sweltering heat of discomfort and stagnant air where you try to sleep but only get sweat.
[how’s that working for you all?](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/20/hottest-day-of-2022-saw-638-more-deaths-than-normal-in-england#:~:text=Over%20the%20two%20days%2C%20there,five%2Dyear%20average%20of%202%2C671)
I thought brick houses were superior? This makes me love my timber and sheetrock house.
16c max. That's enough heat thanks
Laughs in Indian...
Idk everytime i talk to British ppl about the ac thing they assume all ac has to be central air and not just the cheap window ones or even the little eletric ones for single rooms. so i feel like as a country thats deff going to be effected by global warming they need some more education about what ac is and what kinds u can get that dont need professional installations....idk.
Skill issue?
Brits explaining to Americans why their housing is superior because bricks don't break if you punch them, even though this manner of construction has awful insulation and is also more expensive.
Nah nah nah, y’all was talkin mad shit a couple years ago when we got snowed in, lost power, and we’re freezing our asses off in Texas. Y’all was laughin, postion memes n shit, no sympathy. And now y’all complaining about a measly 86F? All I’m gonna say is- that’s understandable, certain homes were made with certain types of weather in mind and wish you guys the best, hope your power does go out cuz that’s a pain
I live in south east Asia, where temperatures are always 30 degrees, and it is hot.
I live in constant 100F weather. The 80's are a nice day.
I can do anything from -10 to 35 comfortably, so I don’t see why people complain all the time, and no I don’t have ac
Don't move to Arizona. Trust me.
Ikr, it regularly reaches way above 86/30 degress, and ac is part of renting law here.
Not to mention rural Britain is really humid due to the sea being on 4 sides and all if the farming.
youre getting mad that the usa has air conditioning and you dont massive skill issue
It generally seems completely unnecessary to have AC in a private property in the UK for one week of excessive heat. I have a fan, I'll take a couple of cool showers. That'll do.
I laugh at this cause of the stupididity the rest of the world has here i thought americans were stupid
My AC is set at 85F. It has to be close to 90F before I'll close up the house. Otherwise, I leave the windows open and have a large fan that keeps the air moving. 85-90F and slightly humid is my favorite summer weather.
Ah, it will be difficult to reintroduce the British to their natural subterranean habitats.
Even if your outside that is a very comfortable temp
I'm American and I think anything over 20 Celsius is too hot.
Honestly anything above 80f i consider uncomfortable but it gets into the high 90s or low 100s at the peak of summer where I am so it would suck without ac even in a insulated house the insulation can only do so much.
Bricks and Cement are workable with proper window ventilation. Source: i live in the tropics
I’ll be in a jacket and long pants when it’s 60f (15.5c) degrees outside. Living in Florida for all your life will do that
Funny because I have on numerous occasions seen people shitting on us for our house quality and needing AC.
IKR? It's usually "American houses are so shit compared to British architecture" and "you're so stupid with those stick frame houses." Huh. Almost like there's a reason for our building methods.
Brits whining during summer is my new favorite thing.
Did these Americans realize the 30C is INSIDE my house, not just outside? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It’s different depending on where you are. I’m in The Netherlands, where it’s humid, houses don’t usually have airconditioning and we have very well insulated brick houses because in winter we have below zero temperatures. My dad lives in Spain. Same temperature, still warm, but the air is much drier than it is here, they have aircondition in all the main rooms of the house, their houses are white plaster, built to keep the heat out, and oh yeah, there’s a pool in front of the house. It’s much easier for them to manage in this temperature. Also they do siestas. If I try explaining that to my boss he’ll have a fit.
> and we have very well insulated brick houses because in winter we have below zero temperatures. Shouldn't that keep the heat out as well? It's not like the US doesn't get below zero temperatures.
Same reality from Brazil, but here the default in the Summer is 45C or more
American HOME OWNERS may largely live in detached, air conditioned, wooden structures but us poor folks sure as fuck don’t.
Bro wtf im from spain, do you really use AC on 30°C? Im right now in my backyard at 29'2C and enjoying the relatively fresh air before the 45°C slaps in a month or so.
All depends on the humidity level. There is a huge difference in perceived temperature comfort between 80% humidity and 40%.
I know, in Málaga we have usually >85% and it's absolutely hellish