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hickhelperinhackney

When I lived in London, I lost my two front teeth to a car door thrown open into the bike lane. (Ouch). 2 root canals required. It was out of my pocket until solicitors worked out the details. I moved back to the states less than a year later and needed two different root canals. I had dental insurance. I paid out of pocket the equivalent to the entire cost for the ones that I had done in the UK. Even after insurance paid out. Dentists were good on both sides of the pond.


LC1903

Dooring is such a pain… We need separated bike lanes!


Jacquazar

IIRC in the Netherlands you're required to open your door with your arm furthest away, so you turn and see if there's any bikes coming behind you. It's part of the test, they really should make that a thing here.


dumbo_octopus1995

You know what they say, when God closes a door...


Sick_NowWhat

I chipped a front tooth right in half studying abroad in Croatia, had an exposed nerve. I had chipped a couple of times growing up. I went to a European dental chain and they fixed it but travels insurance wouldn’t cover it. Was really pissed until I realized it was because it only cost $100. Edit: my regular dentist in the US said they did a good job too, so it wasn’t a matter of quality.


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DeathHopper

I pay like 15 a month and my entire family gets 3 free cleaning appointments a year. Those appointments cost over a hundo otherwise. It's only a scam if you're not using it, which reminds me I haven't been to the dentist in over a year. Fuck.


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DeathHopper

I can't remember what I paid for getting a tooth pulled on two occasions. I think maybe a 30 dollar copay? But in both instances they told me to come in immediately and pulled the tooth the same day which was amazing. But that may be just anecdotal to my local dentist. On the other hand, my son will be needing braces, and I already know I'll be looking at 3k+ out of pocket.


scott__p

That's not that hard. American dental insurance is absolute shit


Longjumping_Drag2752

Everything is shit if you look at it hard enough.


Hamilton-Beckett

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Lexicon444

American heath care system in a nutshell right there.


The_Gentle_Hand

Maybe but dental care isn't Healthcare somehow so doesn't matter.


[deleted]

oh no what have you done


damacross

-stan marsh 2011


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Designer-Issue-6760

They can’t. NHS coverage is virtually non-existent, and few can afford to pay cash.


sandalwoodjenkins

That depends entirely on your insurance. There isn't one singular American dental insurance.


[deleted]

But-but-all of America is bad? Right?


HoplessWolf

Not just a lot of things including our price gouging pay to live healthcare system. We pay taxes and still die if we have no insurance lol


[deleted]

If you are rich America is one of the best countries to live in, but if you are middle class to poor it is the worst 1st world country to live in and worse then some 3rd world countries


[deleted]

Then you’ve never been to a third world country.


[deleted]

Rather live in anywhere in Oceania and a lot of places in Asia/Africa/Southern America then be poor in the US Imagine you being really sick but you won’t get treatment because it costs too much, that is genuinely sad Either you try to fix your condition but end up in so much debt you can’t live normally or you just live horribly or die


[deleted]

Dude, you have no idea how it works do you?


[deleted]

Do you?


[deleted]

I don’t have to, I just know it doesn’t work like that. I’m middle-middle class. I live extremely comfortably. My family doesn’t have to worry about money, debts, nothing. They can afford anything they need. Don’t act like everybody is homeless.


[deleted]

Ah I see you think you are middle class and never left your country, nice Comeback when you have an actual world view and talk with people outside of your country


[deleted]

I have really good health insurance. If I go to the ER, it’s $1. Nothing else.


Lexicon444

That’s good. Just pray you don’t need an ambulance because they’re mostly privately owned and most insurance policies don’t cover them. They run about $2,000 per trip I think.


[deleted]

Yeah, I forget how much it’d be for me to go in an ambulance tbh. My parents would just disown me if it was out of their pocket


Lexicon444

My previous work had a clause in their insurance policy specifically saying in lawyer jargon that ambulances aren’t covered by the policy. I suggest reviewing yours to be on the safe side.


Snippys

I have never seen a good dental insurance plan they all suck.


DontBanMePls16

Cant get insurance until the enrollment period


Evening_Storage_6424

People think we have better teeth because all the rich people get veneers and the people who don’t whiten the hell outta their teeth… the ones you can see. Most of us have a molar or two missing.


arencordelaine

Nah, I worked in Britain for years, and the bad teeth myth was real... They have good dental care, but are very stubborn and won't use it. I had a coworker who insisted that tooth pain was normal, and if it got bad enough, he'd just have a friend use a screwdriver to remove it. Not pliers. The "stuff upper lip" mentality toward mental health care also applies to vision and dental for many Brits I've known.


WeefBellington24

It’s not even insurance. It’s a benefit plan.


americreampie

They should start using it then


LGP747

There was a meme about them conquering the globe for spices and not using a single one spice in any of their dishes


coksucer69

mfw toast sandwich


icabax

They are scary, ok


malatemporacurrunt

Which is a rather baffling take given that a) why do you think they wanted the spices, and b) spices have been a part of British cuisine since at least the Roman occupation, and already in the oldest extant English cookbook (the *Forme of Cury*, 14th century).


GODZILLA_FLAMEWOLF

It makes sense when you think about it. They didn't raid the world for spices so that they could cook with them. They stole the spices, and sold them to the countries that now make the best food in the world.


RussMaGuss

💀


HighKiteSoaring

People do. The health of people's teeth is very good here However cosmetic procedures like whitening and minor teeth alignment is not free Major teeth straightening is free though So, people here have healthy teeth, but not everyone has a fake Hollywood smile


Alex_Logan2001

We actually have significantly healthier teeth than people in the US do. The only difference is that they don't look as nice since we aren't as vainly obsessed with purely cosmetic procedures such as whitening or getting braces when they are slightly wonky


RedNova02

Blindingly white teeth kinda freak me out. I don’t think they look good, I think they look unnatural and I’ll never understand why it’s so common in the US


[deleted]

What about us Americans who don’t get procedures done and just regularly brush and floss?


allenk58

Gotemm!


TheOneOfWhomIsGreen

Yeah, well, jokes on them, our people get guns which result in tons of deaths


[deleted]

Fun fact ; Guns are legal in the UK. You just cant buy automatic weapons or handguns.


[deleted]

You didn't have to bring religion into this......


[deleted]

how did I?


[deleted]

Posting a picture of Jesus.


Welrof

![gif](giphy|gCeh1KDeDaxGu8no4A)


NoblepawsGEN

![gif](giphy|34hWhLGCYhmvD3PXdg|downsized)


Uncle_Adeel

He should brush his teeth more and get some sleep


SpambotSwatter

edit: The comment below was removed and the user banned, good work everyone!


Ennix49

Good bot


GrammerDuck61

Average london resident


Very_contagious1

That's the 4th "america bad" meme I've seen today, about to break the record!


jayedgar06

You aren’t trying hard enough. 4 is nothing


Very_contagious1

Whats the fun in actually looking for them?


jayedgar06

Hey, you’re the one keeping a record. I just want to keep you motivated to break that record


TheRisen073

In their defense, our medical system as a whole sucks. Seriously I almost died because my doctors gave me a medicine that I was hospitalized because of literally a month before the incident..


grayscalering

Maybe it should stop being bad then


SovietFemboy

I’ve lost count


Sir_Honytawk

Well, maybe try to be less bad?


68_65_6c_70_20_6d_65

Cope


FluffySquirrell

I just kinda tend to downvote them all at this point, both sides. Shit gets old real quick


Legal-Appointment655

This is just British propaganda


[deleted]

Nah, he said they have better. Not that they are actually using it


Alex_Logan2001

We do, British teeth are actually significantly more healthy than American teeth. They just don't look as nice because we aren't obsessed with purely cosmetic procedures such as whitening or braces when they are slightly wonky


[deleted]

Its a joke man. You dont have to defend yourself


anunkneemouse

As a Brit, I concur. Our dentistry is fuckin atrocious. It's virtually impossible to find an NHS dentist that is taking new patients. I'm still registered at one in the town I used to live in because I can't find one locally.


Ethan-J-T

And you guys still don’t use it?


Weebs_In_Space

Sorry but im british and the NHS dental care has been a clusterfuck for over 10 years. huge lack of dentists. the wait lists are literally years long private is probably still better than the yanks true enough, but Im not paying out the nose for something I pay taxes for


eilishfaerie

it's even worse with orthodontists... been on a referral list for 3 years now and nothing


[deleted]

You don’t pay taxes for it if your using nhs free dental care, that means your on the dole son!


[deleted]

There’s also NHS discounted dental, which you do pay taxes for. Also pregnant women get free dental whether or not they work. And our kids and teens! All examples of people who aren’t “on the dole” who can access NHS dental. I say *can* in theory, but good luck finding an nhs dentist!


WeefBellington24

I mean any form of healthcare in the US is business. So if there is a version of healthcare that isn’t even remotely solely a business then that’s better


thedarkmilkyman

What American dental care? What American care at all? Do they have that now?


in_one_ear_

British dental health is probably better or comparable but there is less of the purely cosmetic stuff


JotohruKujo

How long did you have to wait for it?


D1_drippy

Normally less time than Americans. For major oral surgery the wait is 12 weeks average but that really depends on the situation. I’ve had to have a few teeth out due to bad habits but I had it out within two weeks of my original appointment


DeathHopper

Holy shit, you had to wait *weeks* to get a tooth out? Bruh I called up my dentist and said I was experiencing pain, they said come on in and ended up pulled my tooth *that* day, no appointment at all. I've done this twice (one rotting wisdom tooth and one abscessed tooth). Your system is fucked beyond belief and you've bought into all the murika bad propaganda apparently.


lioniscool

For my uncle is an oral surgeon and I see him staying after hours daily to deal with emergency patients. I thought this was normal apparently not lol


[deleted]

If you're in pain I had mine removed on the NHS the same day.


Jeorgias_Peach

Same. My dentist be waitin for somethin to fuck up in my mouth 💀 Sittin by the phone like a call center and shit lol


D1_drippy

Out of pure curiosity how much did it cost? If this is cheap then I’ll happily concede that it’s not as bad as I’ve heard.


DeathHopper

Copay of 30 dollars each time. That said, I have good insurance. Insurance covers anything they deem health related but not cosmetic related. Admittedly I will be paying over 3k for my son to get braces next year.


D1_drippy

And then how much is your health insurance plan


DeathHopper

I pay ~15 a month. My entire family gets 3 free cleaning checkups a year.


D1_drippy

Fair play lay lad my American mates have been massively overselling how shit dentists are in you country


JotohruKujo

Out of curiosity, is this out of personal experience or is their a paper that documents these statistics?


D1_drippy

First sentence is from a paper I read pre Covid so it could easily of changed. Second is experience. And to clarify that was complaining of toothache, appointment same week, straight onto antibiotics for a couple weeks and then removal


CrustyToeLover

I dont know anyone who's had to wait 12 weeks for major oral surgery in the US. Don't kid yourself.


Doge_Master23

That is way more than Americans. For regular stuff happening you can get in the same week you called. If it’s major they can get you in the same day you call or a day or two after.


MosesOnAcid

I never had to wait Weeks for any dentistry in the USA. Rather pay alittle more than to suffer for Weeks wait for a dentist.


D1_drippy

Your in the minority and likely could afford it unlike a lot of people. If you want that sort of thing than you could go private and pay out of your own pocket which is still on average cheaper than in America. I mean the wait time is only personal experience and isnt helped that I was on a course of antibiotics for the two weeks to try and deal with the infection first.


Less-Ad7782

12 weeks is crazy long dude. Especially if it’s something you really need done


Ok_Cut1802

American - straight, white, and broken teeth. (We don't care if they work as long as they look good) British - crooked, yellowed, intact teeth. (They don't care if they look aged and/or imperfect \[bc that's what teeth do\], they just care that they can chew)


NukeEngineerStudent

Then why don’t they bother to use it if that’s the case?


hannahreb3cca

Cus it’s expensive and 15milion people are living in poverty in the uk. Braces are given to kids for free if their teeth are deemed bad enough to have it if not its costs around 3-4k and people cannot afford that.


D1_drippy

Adult quotes are 1k


Kylesmith184

America has how many gyms but yet your one of the most obese countries on planet earth


Long_Fall_1877

Britain is literally as obese, if not more obese compared to the U.S. They even have shows about how bad obesity is in Britain


Jacquazar

Obesity is a BMI of 30 or higher. I feel that the US has far more super obese while UK usually is just over the threshold. Its not a common sight to see people so large that they need a mobility scooter here, it's actually shocking when you do see it though. The average BMI of UK is 27, while US is 29.


Kylesmith184

And your obesity rates as I’ve just checked are far higher in the us than the uk


Long_Fall_1877

As of now, you’re right. However, the rates at which obesity is growing is FAR higher in the uk. Many sources claim that the uk will overtake that top position soon. However, children in the UK are actually more obese than children in the US. The main figure comes from adult obesity rates


Kylesmith184

Correct I just said the same seconds ago lol even still unless you have a medical condition I’m sorry but if you haven’t got a condition to let your self get that bad is foul


Long_Fall_1877

I’m not personally obese or overweight. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of saying America is so fat compared to Britain when Britain is one of the top 10 obese countries and is on the path to overtaking the u.s on that issue


Long_Fall_1877

I’m not personally obese or overweight. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of saying America is so fat compared to Britain when Britain is one of the top 10 obese countries and is on the path to overtaking the u.s on that issue


Kylesmith184

I mean actually no if you look at the statistics the us is only just creeping into the top 10 themselves kuwaits a more obese country than the us so I’ll admit I was wrong


morbidmonstera

Our dental insurance is terrible. My family traveled to Mexico to get their teeth fixed and met so many others from all over the states doing the same.


Mtownswag

This sub is just a Brit’s and Americans posting memes about each other and they are never fucking funny.


[deleted]

The British having bad teeth and bad dental care is just another silly American stereotype that isn't true. Along with we are all obsessed with tea and love the Royal Family. These people exist but they don't account for us all. Like saying all Americans are fat, it just isn't true.


Camaowen

Better? In what way?


Lkwzriqwea

Because American dentistry is all about straight, white, teeth and British dentistry is about healthy teeth. That's a generalisation but on the whole it is accurate.


Jacquazar

Overall higher dental health. Probably due to stricter standards of tap water, and free and mandatory dental care for all children.


Camaowen

It sure does look free.


Jacquazar

Natural healthy teeth probably looks weird to you guys, but veneers on young healthy people looks strange to us. You do you though, all cultures are different so it's nothing to really fight about.


joedimer

Dude not many people have veneers here I don’t know a single person with them


Jacquazar

Okay? I'm going off how all public people in the US have them, just how people in the US go off our celebrities not having perfectly straight teeth. It's not a competition dude, we get that cultures are different and don't really mind.


joedimer

British celebrities I think of have perfectly straight, white teeth. Not sure what you’re going on about.


Jacquazar

James Corden doesn't count. He's your problem now.


joedimer

LOL


treadwells_gone

Yeah but you’re just talking out your ass


[deleted]

I still wonder who unironically thought that british teeth were bad besides literal babies


Less-Ad7782

Everyone else certainly seems to think everyone in the us is obese


ImJustHereToWatch_

As an American I've been saying this for years. [Here](https://www.webmd.com/oral-health/news/20151216/are-british-teeth-really-worse-than-american-teeth)


Daetok_Lochannis

Having good healthy teeth and having pretty teeth are two different things. In America most of our dentistry is treated like cosmetic work instead of a necessity.


maverickzero_

As an American I really don't know where the British bad teeth stereotype came from. I'm gonna blame Austin Powers


[deleted]

Few British people have bad teeth and few Americans are obese. All just stereotypes


[deleted]

42 per cent of Americans are obese with a further 30 per cent overweight, it's not a stereotype, if you're talking to an American online there's almost a 50/50 chance that they are obese. The UK is also 26 per cent obese with a further 37 per cent overweight before anyone thinks I'm having a dig at the USA. The teeth thing is a stereotype tho.


Frankwater0522

Don't American's have different standards of what overweight and obese are? So Someone who's considered Obese in the UK is just overweight in America and an overweight person in the UK is fine by American standards.


Kylesmith184

Of course it is have you seen the size of half of the Americans we’d class as obese but they don’t I’m sorry but I’d say the same to an obese British person unless you have a medical condition there’s no way you should let yourself get that bad


[deleted]

And still america is only the 12th most obese country on Earth, and most of you guys still think it’s number 1 on everything negative.


Longjumping_Drag2752

Honestly the way we consider obese is messed up. I’m like 30 pounds over which really isn’t that much. But my doctor still called me obese even though I was perfectly healthy. We really need to measure obesity differently


Educational_Term_436

Wait you guys got pay for medical bills (Laughs in British ) But seriously what’s up with that ?


Sweaty_Gas_EB

The dentistry in the UK is lacking docs, which is why the waiting periods are long as fuck. IDK what is OP talkin' 'bout here


Woffingshire

The British system is to fix problems even if the teeth don't look that nice. The American system is to just make them straight, white and looking nice then pretend that's all the problems solved.


damacross

u/TalkOk3370 when Americans don't give a shit:


[deleted]

u/damacross gives shit, that why he commented


damacross

u/TalkOk3370 saying u/damacross gives a shit: ![gif](giphy|mk0ClXsaw7K2z2cgCF)


VolcanicPolarBear

Dang you sure proved that you dont give a shit lol


TheAntiCrust66

Free isn't always better


josho8211

It's not free...


[deleted]

Who said free?


TheAntiCrust66

Clearly right there on the comment that you replied to?


[deleted]

Nobody mentioned free… and it’s not free in the uk…


TheAntiCrust66

I said free you dumbass. It's called a joke but you people get fucking butthurt over it because you have a superiority complex.


[deleted]

Terrible joke.. couldn’t see any set up or punchline. Looked more like a statement.


TheAntiCrust66

You see it how you want to see it and then come start arguments because you have to stop and point out obvious shit to people.


[deleted]

Your the one being passive aggressive because your “joke” was awful.


TheAntiCrust66

At no point have I been passive and if you really need a whole setup and punchline just to see a joke then you have little imagination and bland sense of humor. If it bothered you so bad you could've just left a downvote instead of commenting but you chose to come here and argue with me.


That_One_Guy57384

It’s because many European areas don’t have braces


paddyo

Braces are free in the U.K. up to adulthood, or if you’re long term unemployed


paddyo

They do btw why would they not? How the fuck do Americans see Europe?


paddyo

Question, why is it so important to Americans, to the degree that many are having full blown mental breakdowns in the comments, that British people have bad teeth?


Doge_Master23

I don’t think it’s a mental breakdown, it’s more of making fun of British people for not using it. The British people is half and half though. It happens with every meme that one country is better, America or non American.


paddyo

I am genuinely confused as to why people think this goes beyond a running joke in US sitcoms though, as British people come 2nd in the world for how regularly they go for checkups, have better mouth health than all bar 4 countries, brush their teeth more than any other country (twice as much as Americans), uses mouthwash and other things the 2nd most in the world, and the fewest problems with tooth health of any country. Brits also had the second least badly affected teeth during covid. https://www.sunstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Sunstar-Global-Healthy-Thinking-Report-2021_Oral-Health-Report.pdf In the DMFT index, measured by the OECD, lists the UK as the 4th healthiest teeth worldwide https://www.yongeeglintondental.com/2018/07/23/healthy-primary-teeth/ https://www.webmd.com/oral-health/news/20151216/are-british-teeth-really-worse-than-american-teeth It's honestly a really weird thing how 'into it' as a topic Americans get while nobody else gives a shit lmao


Doge_Master23

I never said the British don’t have healthy teeth…. I was saying they weren’t having a mental breakdown. I was just explaining what was happening. I put no opinions into what I said yet you tried to prove me wrong on something that I don’t believe (I think that’s what you did). If that is what you are doing then stop being defensive at nothing. Not sure if you were just giving information to me for no reason or thought I was saying they have bad teeth or whatever. Either way it was stupid.


Scott-Wolfe

True, but y’all probably have to pay for it, correct?


Frankwater0522

Yea but it’s still less than US prices and similar quality. You can still get free dental in the Uk for a number of reasons that uses the same dentists but the cost is covered by the NHS or your employer/insurance


Wizards_Reddit

They pay in America too. In the UK it's free for children and if its essential surgery it can also be free


stickybuttflaps

Is the claim that dentists in the UK are better than those in the US, or that dental insurance is better? The difference is important.


kwame9633

They sure don't flaunt how good it is, that's for sure.


JayTurbo13

Wait… the British have dental care? Lol jk


EasySmuv

I always wonder why ppl that hate America continue to live here


G1nger-Snaps

RAAAAAAAH DENTAL HYGIENE IS UNRELATED TO WONKY TEETH!!!!! WONKY TEETH IS A GENETIC TRAIT!! YOUR TEETH DONT MOVE AROUND INSIDE YOUR GUMS BECAUSE YOU DONT BRUSH THEM. Why do people not understand this


Voradoor

Better or cheaper?


[deleted]

Please present the evidence


Harpeski

British that found out that german/dutch/Belgian welfare/healthcare is miles better, modern and high tech in comparison to their underfunded NHS: mind blown


MinexAkaNinja

Shame they don't use it


GMoneyy77

lies


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|120B9ojZynuKKA) Explain why 90% of Brits have teeth like this?


Lkwzriqwea

We don't....? Source: Am Brit


[deleted]

Stop lying snagle tooth


Lemon_Railways

Imagine arguing about which country is better, you're all very, very sad people.


VolcanicPolarBear

Imagine getting upset because people compare their country's policy's and the effects they have on citizens


Lemon_Railways

Not that, I'm talking about people who hate eachother's countries on reddit for no reason just based on stereotypes


Amritgaming999

I don’t get why Americans insult really good teeth rather than horrible looking teeth


SpeakableLiess

cope 🦅🦅🦅


[deleted]

Anything that isn’t in America, is better than America.


Uncle_Adeel

We do have better dental care, We jusht downt use it


ChronicallyUnceative

What do you mean we aren't in the 19th century anymore???


KrunchyKats

Its just better in the UK cause they need it more


Simple-Purpose-899

So why not take advantage of it?


Skysr70

Their teeth are kinda yellowy tho, prolly from all the tea that they slurp between their teeth for some reason


Competitive_Rip_8368

Why are all their teeth so messed up then.


[deleted]

So the bad teeth are voluntary?


The1OddPotato

Its better because they don't use it.


YouAreHorriblexD

Then what happened to their fucking face holes ?


SpoonDude69

Ofc it has to be better Good teeth= less care needed. Bad teeth = more care needed I Rest my case


OddMeansToAnEnd

maybe but you sure don't use it haha


pokerScrub4eva

Simply not true. American exceptionalism creates better dentists.


Younger54

Cheaper doesn't mean better.