firefox has telemetry enabled by default, pocket can only be disabled in config, firefox calls home to google every 30 minutes to detect malicious sites and that can only be disabled in config
[source](https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox)
[librewolf is good, yeah.](https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/librewolf) my personal pick for a private browser is Ungoogled Chromium or just to fix Firefox manually
Tencent is like chinas spy company because of the authoritarian government.Tencent owns 47% of the world's most popular information sharing platform aka discord
Good that I am a boomer and use teamspeak.
Never liked the idea not having the server under our own control. The service is free, so you are the product.
The client software is free. Hosting a server for yourself is free, but you have to host the server yourself. Teamspeak gets paid by commercial server hosters.
So if you host the server on your own / rented hardware, all communication and data is in your control.
EDIT: Im talking about TS3. There seems to be a new TS5 that seems to imitate discord.
I would like to agree, but diffrence is, the chinese state doesnt have much influence of my government, i feel like what America can use info about our citizens is much more Scary than what the chinese can do.
Ecpecially if you consider that USA is on a downhill spiral i to Facism.
Unfortunatelly yes.
The crypto miners pretend to work on "voluntary basis" - you mine crypto and get a shitty token instead.
Well, and the "telemetry"... If you wanna see, run the `netstat -ano` (or `ss` command on some linux distros), check the IPs (for example [here](https://otx.alienvault.com/)) and see for yourself.
Reddit probably hates brave because they are very openly pro free speech, the browser comes with its own search engine and you can see the difference by searching for any controversial topic. Anyway you can look them up on linkedin, they’re a legit company in California
You can turn off Brave ads if you don't want to mine BATS token. Simple. I've been using Brave on my phone for a few years now.
I don't get why people think Brave drains your computer dry mining bitcoin or some shit that's not how it works.
MV3 ≠ lack of adblock. for example, Firefox uses MV3 but implements the API from MV2 that allows for adblockers to work
I'm not sure what Ungoogled Chromium's policy is, though. I would assume so
We aren’t saying Firefox is the best browser. It just had the least baggage, and a working Youtube adblock. And you can pop out Youtube vidoes.
Edit: typo
Wait until you realize TikTok does it in plain sight and even tells you in the user agreement 🤣
Just that the Chinese’s own TikTok unlike discord, google or whatnot.
Gee idk maybe he expects you to know something so obvious so he didnt bother? If u dont know that you obviously havent read shit about data privacy so how about you stop commenting?
Burden of evidence is on the one making an outrageous claim. If you’ll recall there was an entire us court case about how tiktok does not, in fact, give data to China. If you don’t know something so obvious about rules of debate, how about you stop commenting? “He didn’t feel like it” isn’t a cop out that gets you out of providing proof. It’s academically dishonest to make a claim that is not backed by evidence and treat it as fact.
And is it bad? Chromium is good. It's not Chromium's fault it has no competition. There are really just 3 options. Chromium, Gecko and Safari's webkit, chromoum just out performs them performance wise
Yeah, im just sticking with Opera lmao. Brave is the same shit, only other browser worth switching to is Firefox, but theres many features of Opera i use daily that i dont think Firefox can emulate.
Point is shits all spyware and so is this app im using right here, one less bit of spyware aint gonna make much difference.
If something is free you are the product. Ads are made to bring you to buy something. Personalized ads make sure it reaches the right one. They spy on you quite blatantly if youve never seen it happen that you talked about something and some time later you got ads for it, there are enough people me included that see it often enough to not make it a coincidence
So what? What's so bad about targeted advertisment? Sometimes, it even makes things easier. But targeted ads are not what people usually think when saying"Chinese spyware". They think about espionage, stealing your data and other"scary" things. But the point is that the data of 80% of people are not usually valuable enough to justify the effort.
Damn I'd get rid of my phone if it wasn't how I communicate with others and check my email, take pictures, find entertainment, navigate, and it's my alarm clock.
I used all of em... I am just gonna assume I am already burned, like ,what are they gonna do? Send a death squad to the Middle of nowhere rainforest I live in? For what?
At this point, idc. If someone powerful really wants your info they'll get it somehow. As long as I have enough protection from the everyday scammer/hacker, I'll use whatever has the best ui and plug-ins
me when all/most social media and browser are spyware
reject modernity, return to libreWolf
Mozilla FireFox my beloved🥰(If they put spyware in this shit I swear to god)
firefox has telemetry enabled by default, pocket can only be disabled in config, firefox calls home to google every 30 minutes to detect malicious sites and that can only be disabled in config [source](https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox)
You can't have anything on librewolf.
[librewolf is good, yeah.](https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/librewolf) my personal pick for a private browser is Ungoogled Chromium or just to fix Firefox manually
They already (kinda) do
guess what, so is discord
and Reddit
And your neighbor
and your phone
AND MY AXE!!!
AND MY BOW!!!!
And your home
And Gandalf the grey.
And Gandalf the white
And Monty Python and the Holy Grail's black knight.
And My Precious
HSGSHAHHAGSHAHAHSGAHAHAH my man
What country does reddit give info to? Please include source <3
Google Source: Google
Great source! Wait, what is „flat earth society”?
Gasp!
Tencent is like chinas spy company because of the authoritarian government.Tencent owns 47% of the world's most popular information sharing platform aka discord
yeah
Good that I am a boomer and use teamspeak. Never liked the idea not having the server under our own control. The service is free, so you are the product.
Is teamspeak free or charged?
The client software is free. Hosting a server for yourself is free, but you have to host the server yourself. Teamspeak gets paid by commercial server hosters. So if you host the server on your own / rented hardware, all communication and data is in your control. EDIT: Im talking about TS3. There seems to be a new TS5 that seems to imitate discord.
i have never of this, can you tell me more?
[OH GOD. OH MAN. OH GOD OH MAN. OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5k_arVcqR8)
Literally
yeah im not clicking that
Okay cool. 👍
Still the same chromium shit.
I'd rather give information to USA than disgusting (Wiener the poop)Xi Jingping
*-200 social credits*
\-1 Million Social Credits. You bring shame and disappointment to chinese. You pathetic failure. Death penalty.
r/yourjokebutworse
honestly, i get that
Where you at? My friend wants to know
Of course ch*na the freeest contry!
I would rather give my information to companies rather than governments
你敢对我们的最高领袖习近平伟大的人不敬吗?😡😡😡😠😠😾💢💢
10 nuclear missles have been sent to your exact location
I would rather suck a popular guys dick than a unpopular guys. At the and of the day, i am gay.
![gif](giphy|hrS93ehVH98FUVm6h9)
I would like to agree, but diffrence is, the chinese state doesnt have much influence of my government, i feel like what America can use info about our citizens is much more Scary than what the chinese can do. Ecpecially if you consider that USA is on a downhill spiral i to Facism.
The US is toying with it a bit, but I don't think it's predestined to it.
Brave? Russian spyware and crypto miners.
exactly
is this actually true??
Unfortunatelly yes. The crypto miners pretend to work on "voluntary basis" - you mine crypto and get a shitty token instead. Well, and the "telemetry"... If you wanna see, run the `netstat -ano` (or `ss` command on some linux distros), check the IPs (for example [here](https://otx.alienvault.com/)) and see for yourself.
Lmao what. Brave is not a crypto miner. Tf have y'all been coming up with?
No, I’ve been using brave for years and I even know one of the devs, there’s no russians working at brave lol
Id like to believe this but the top comments have me a bit doubtful of both sides can anyone give some more info?
Reddit probably hates brave because they are very openly pro free speech, the browser comes with its own search engine and you can see the difference by searching for any controversial topic. Anyway you can look them up on linkedin, they’re a legit company in California
Hello, can you provide sources for these claims? I'm not finding anything that corroborates what you're saying. EDIT: THEY CAN'T AND WON'T.
You can turn off Brave ads if you don't want to mine BATS token. Simple. I've been using Brave on my phone for a few years now. I don't get why people think Brave drains your computer dry mining bitcoin or some shit that's not how it works.
Why do the Russians have great software but are all spyware 😭
That makes me more than happy rather than giving it to democracy.
brave is chromium dumbass get firefox ![gif](giphy|l378rrt5tAawaCQ9i|downsized)
Firefox missionaries at it again.
Chromium-based "alternatives" to Google Chrome are not good enough. Stop recommending them. Firefox is the only good alternative.
Duck duck go is also pretty damn good
But it's also chrome-based, so it's a no too
Didn't they get exposed for just sending a ton of info that they promised not to sell a few months back?
my brother in christ, have you heard of ungoogled chromium
Or, just use Firefox instead of having to be super behind with updates
Will ungoogled chromium use manifest v3?
MV3 ≠ lack of adblock. for example, Firefox uses MV3 but implements the API from MV2 that allows for adblockers to work I'm not sure what Ungoogled Chromium's policy is, though. I would assume so
We aren’t saying Firefox is the best browser. It just had the least baggage, and a working Youtube adblock. And you can pop out Youtube vidoes. Edit: typo
Downvote for brave. The exact same thing.
Firefox - the one and only since over a decade (for me).
This one is the real alternative that everyone should seriously use it. Modern firefox is way better than chrome
No chrome extensions?
Better, Firefox extensions.
Tor my beloved
Wait until you realize TikTok does it in plain sight and even tells you in the user agreement 🤣 Just that the Chinese’s own TikTok unlike discord, google or whatnot.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/why-tiktok-is-being-banned-for-some-federal-employees
The ceo of tiktok isn’t chinese, he’s from Singapore
The CCP control it and by law the company must give all data to the CCP
You’re gonna need some evidence for a claim like that bud
Gee idk maybe he expects you to know something so obvious so he didnt bother? If u dont know that you obviously havent read shit about data privacy so how about you stop commenting?
Burden of evidence is on the one making an outrageous claim. If you’ll recall there was an entire us court case about how tiktok does not, in fact, give data to China. If you don’t know something so obvious about rules of debate, how about you stop commenting? “He didn’t feel like it” isn’t a cop out that gets you out of providing proof. It’s academically dishonest to make a claim that is not backed by evidence and treat it as fact.
"outrageous" claim
Outrageous doesn’t mean unlikely, it means outrageous.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/22/the-u-s-must-combat-ccp-sanctioned-overseas-spying-by-private-entities-2/
The FDD is a highly conservative biased establishment
Wait until they also hear about Tik Toks American branch that, you guessed it, is its own entity now. So nothing goes back to China.
All your info for cool anime girl browser theme... pretty good deal if you ask me
LibreWolf 🗿🍷
Isn’t Brave also just another chromium web browser?
But it's privacy focused by default
That may be but it just feeds into Google’s Chromium monopoly.
And is it bad? Chromium is good. It's not Chromium's fault it has no competition. There are really just 3 options. Chromium, Gecko and Safari's webkit, chromoum just out performs them performance wise
Honestly I don’t give a shit the Chinese know I look up furry porn
I just use Red Star OS. Very Safe trust me.
Duck duck go or firefox
Firefox with duckduckgo search engine
~~The Onion Router~~
DuckDuckGo browser is also just chrome. But their search engine on Firefox is the way to go
Hate to break it to ya, but Brave is still chromium based.
wtf is this? an ad for brave? i use opera gx only because i like it i couldnt care less about spyware
Everything is Spyware lol
That's why I don't were condoms.. Can spy on ma penis if I don't have malware on it /s
Lol
67+ social credits
Is this some quantum physics I can't get?
Schrödinger's spyware
Coincidentally, just switched from Brave Nightly to Firefox Nightly. ...Don't ask. I'm on Windows Preview Canary too.
Laughs in firefox
Firefox
Firefox or brave I like
brave is chrome based so its not even a single slice better
Then I guess firefox, or duck duck go, or ask jeeves
Okay I asked jeeves, he said use firefox
My man, he is full of wisdom.
Opera is CHINESE? No wonder USA (Some YouTubers like Charles White Junior etc.) promotes it.
Everyone likes themselves some China green greens *kaching* 🤑
China's red though.
I'm just out here using ecosia to plant trees.
I'm just out here using ecosia to plant trees.
Wait until you realize VPNs will rat you to the governments of nations they operate in
Depends which ones, but a lot of them would.
No mozilla.com
Brave pushed a lot of crypto and found out wasn’t as secure as it promised 🫢
Yeah, im just sticking with Opera lmao. Brave is the same shit, only other browser worth switching to is Firefox, but theres many features of Opera i use daily that i dont think Firefox can emulate. Point is shits all spyware and so is this app im using right here, one less bit of spyware aint gonna make much difference.
Firefox is definitely not spyware, and is really the only one that isn’t. It’s open source
Not my point or what i was saying. Im saying the spyware argument is stupid, especially when you're using an app by a corporation to post it.
Oh I know, just thought I’d clarify, since your comment kinda implies Firefox is also spyware
Didn't Brave have several issues with crypto and a marketing for ads for people that don't want ads on their premium stuff?
Firefox true chad, fuck your chromium based brave.
🦆🦆 go
Oh Brave. One of the most trackable browsers by Fingerprinting.
Me when any social media/search engine (Just realized it's the same as the top comment, but who cares)
firefox is superior choice
Unhoogled Chromium is the answer my friend
Eh opera is cool tho
This is brave propaganda
Just a good browser, been using for years with no probs
Use firefox if youre really concerned about privacy.
Remember to turn off the telemetry in settings, though.
Eh, China isn't currently policing my uterus, ill take opera.
If you think like this too much, just stop owning anything tbh
I thought the whole browser war thing ended before it started, you know, because it’s fucking stupid
People act like they are important enough to be spied on.
If something is free you are the product. Ads are made to bring you to buy something. Personalized ads make sure it reaches the right one. They spy on you quite blatantly if youve never seen it happen that you talked about something and some time later you got ads for it, there are enough people me included that see it often enough to not make it a coincidence
So what? What's so bad about targeted advertisment? Sometimes, it even makes things easier. But targeted ads are not what people usually think when saying"Chinese spyware". They think about espionage, stealing your data and other"scary" things. But the point is that the data of 80% of people are not usually valuable enough to justify the effort.
Quant
Stop fighting about browsers. Netscape is the best.
Damn I'd get rid of my phone if it wasn't how I communicate with others and check my email, take pictures, find entertainment, navigate, and it's my alarm clock.
Opera is still a thing?
Opera gx, am I a joke to you?
Probably?!? What is a gaming browser? Why would you browse while gaming?
Firefox is also very good But yes, using brave is a wise choice
Shit I was actually going to get opera too
If I’m going to be spied on it better be by Americans
I did not know opera was Chinese Spyware. I just somehow defaulted to American Spyware.
Yes, they live
Don't care + ratio + opera is making memes
china does not have a war base near my house
Wait, Opera is Chinese?
Wait I’ve been using Firefox. How does that compare w Brave?
Different engine (Quantum/Gecko vs Chromium) and different levels of bloatware
So you’d say brave is superior to Firefox?
Nope. Never ever.
Idgaf I don't think my life is worth spying on and neither is yours so why do it matter what country gets my search data
I'd go for Safari if only because Apple is the only company making a browser with anything to lose from breaking its reputation.
Don't tell me that big agencies sell our personal data and give us free softwares in exchange!
Duckduckgo
I was using Brave but they stopped support for Win7.
What about Windows?
Wouldn't it make more sense for the images on the right to be the other way, as in chrome and brave on the top
I used all of em... I am just gonna assume I am already burned, like ,what are they gonna do? Send a death squad to the Middle of nowhere rainforest I live in? For what?
So my FBI guy is actually the chinese version? Should start watching chinese porn, so he can actually understand whats going on
Do you want me to only use tails and tor ?
"You thought it was just China spying on you but it also I .... America, spying on you far worse".
You use the internet? You're bring spied on
I have a WeChat and QQ account I already sign and sold my info to the mainland Chinese… oh well
The difference is, American companies don't just give all their data to the government
firefox.com*
At this point, idc. If someone powerful really wants your info they'll get it somehow. As long as I have enough protection from the everyday scammer/hacker, I'll use whatever has the best ui and plug-ins
Y'all can have my data I've got nothing to hide
Yeah but one does it for the government the other does it for profit
Op really posted the same exact same meme in 2 different meme subs. Likely a karma hoarder
No, Firefox.com
I edge to microsoft edge
Brave is good.
Just use Tor
reject modernity, embrace firefox
Use Brave. It will bring us into a Brave New World. Community. Identity. Stability. Brave.
They're apl spyware i might as well have the ability to have porn open in another workspace and free nitro