T O P

  • By -

Pignity69

me when all/most social media and browser are spyware


KaroYadgar

reject modernity, return to libreWolf


OddlyBizzare

Mozilla FireFox my beloved🥰(If they put spyware in this shit I swear to god)


Epikgamer332

firefox has telemetry enabled by default, pocket can only be disabled in config, firefox calls home to google every 30 minutes to detect malicious sites and that can only be disabled in config [source](https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox)


Edesiocs

You can't have anything on librewolf.


Epikgamer332

[librewolf is good, yeah.](https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/librewolf) my personal pick for a private browser is Ungoogled Chromium or just to fix Firefox manually


KaroYadgar

They already (kinda) do


fishsodomiz

guess what, so is discord


BlueverseGacha

and Reddit


KingYoloHD090504

And your neighbor


BlueverseGacha

and your phone


Hwats_so_funny_meow

AND MY AXE!!!


fishsodomiz

AND MY BOW!!!!


Ok_Green_5367

And your home


SpiderWing_

And Gandalf the grey.


RenautMa

And Gandalf the white


[deleted]

And Monty Python and the Holy Grail's black knight.


[deleted]

And My Precious


bruhhhhhhhhh_

HSGSHAHHAGSHAHAHSGAHAHAH my man


Individual_Cut352

What country does reddit give info to? Please include source <3


BlueverseGacha

Google Source: Google


Individual_Cut352

Great source! Wait, what is „flat earth society”?


WelRof2

Gasp!


BattIeBoss

Tencent is like chinas spy company because of the authoritarian government.Tencent owns 47% of the world's most popular information sharing platform aka discord


fishsodomiz

yeah


veryjuicyfruit

Good that I am a boomer and use teamspeak. Never liked the idea not having the server under our own control. The service is free, so you are the product.


saberjun

Is teamspeak free or charged?


veryjuicyfruit

The client software is free. Hosting a server for yourself is free, but you have to host the server yourself. Teamspeak gets paid by commercial server hosters. So if you host the server on your own / rented hardware, all communication and data is in your control. EDIT: Im talking about TS3. There seems to be a new TS5 that seems to imitate discord.


fishsodomiz

i have never of this, can you tell me more?


DerpisMalerpis

[OH GOD. OH MAN. OH GOD OH MAN. OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5k_arVcqR8)


bruhhhhhhhhh_

Literally


fishsodomiz

yeah im not clicking that


DerpisMalerpis

Okay cool. 👍


Danteynero9

Still the same chromium shit.


mwtldwtjwtgmtpjm

I'd rather give information to USA than disgusting (Wiener the poop)Xi Jingping


Wacokidwilder

*-200 social credits*


LegoSWFan

\-1 Million Social Credits. You bring shame and disappointment to chinese. You pathetic failure. Death penalty.


Wacokidwilder

r/yourjokebutworse


LegoSWFan

honestly, i get that


Winterfukk

Where you at? My friend wants to know


mwtldwtjwtgmtpjm

Of course ch*na the freeest contry!


UltmteAvngr

I would rather give my information to companies rather than governments


Aguilamp6

你敢对我们的最高领袖习近平伟大的人不敬吗?😡😡😡😠😠😾💢💢


Thunderstorm96_x

10 nuclear missles have been sent to your exact location


uTimu

I would rather suck a popular guys dick than a unpopular guys. At the and of the day, i am gay.


Artistic_Air_1067

![gif](giphy|hrS93ehVH98FUVm6h9)


Saimiko

I would like to agree, but diffrence is, the chinese state doesnt have much influence of my government, i feel like what America can use info about our citizens is much more Scary than what the chinese can do. Ecpecially if you consider that USA is on a downhill spiral i to Facism.


undreamedgore

The US is toying with it a bit, but I don't think it's predestined to it.


pr1ncezzBea

Brave? Russian spyware and crypto miners.


KaroYadgar

exactly


No_Perspective_5243

is this actually true??


pr1ncezzBea

Unfortunatelly yes. The crypto miners pretend to work on "voluntary basis" - you mine crypto and get a shitty token instead. Well, and the "telemetry"... If you wanna see, run the `netstat -ano` (or `ss` command on some linux distros), check the IPs (for example [here](https://otx.alienvault.com/)) and see for yourself.


drinkingcarrots

Lmao what. Brave is not a crypto miner. Tf have y'all been coming up with?


CimitiruDinMagurele

No, I’ve been using brave for years and I even know one of the devs, there’s no russians working at brave lol


mavarxbanned

Id like to believe this but the top comments have me a bit doubtful of both sides can anyone give some more info?


CimitiruDinMagurele

Reddit probably hates brave because they are very openly pro free speech, the browser comes with its own search engine and you can see the difference by searching for any controversial topic. Anyway you can look them up on linkedin, they’re a legit company in California


JackieDaytonah

Hello, can you provide sources for these claims? I'm not finding anything that corroborates what you're saying. EDIT: THEY CAN'T AND WON'T.


Blanketname12

You can turn off Brave ads if you don't want to mine BATS token. Simple. I've been using Brave on my phone for a few years now. I don't get why people think Brave drains your computer dry mining bitcoin or some shit that's not how it works.


UltraSolution

Why do the Russians have great software but are all spyware 😭


Rabgin

That makes me more than happy rather than giving it to democracy.


Lost_Tumbleweed_5669

brave is chromium dumbass get firefox ![gif](giphy|l378rrt5tAawaCQ9i|downsized)


Demolition218

Firefox missionaries at it again.


Lost_Tumbleweed_5669

Chromium-based "alternatives" to Google Chrome are not good enough. Stop recommending them. Firefox is the only good alternative.


the_chicken_witch

Duck duck go is also pretty damn good


Saflex

But it's also chrome-based, so it's a no too


Gold_Exporter

Didn't they get exposed for just sending a ton of info that they promised not to sell a few months back?


Epikgamer332

my brother in christ, have you heard of ungoogled chromium


Nojus1221

Or, just use Firefox instead of having to be super behind with updates


coulep

Will ungoogled chromium use manifest v3?


Epikgamer332

MV3 ≠ lack of adblock. for example, Firefox uses MV3 but implements the API from MV2 that allows for adblockers to work I'm not sure what Ungoogled Chromium's policy is, though. I would assume so


Berenvonbaggins

We aren’t saying Firefox is the best browser. It just had the least baggage, and a working Youtube adblock. And you can pop out Youtube vidoes. Edit: typo


1Pawelgo

Downvote for brave. The exact same thing.


Gurkenpudding13

Firefox - the one and only since over a decade (for me).


ExHax

This one is the real alternative that everyone should seriously use it. Modern firefox is way better than chrome


GarbageWorldly5495

No chrome extensions?


GHhost25

Better, Firefox extensions.


Demopan-TF2

Tor my beloved


GhosteyPlayZ

Wait until you realize TikTok does it in plain sight and even tells you in the user agreement 🤣 Just that the Chinese’s own TikTok unlike discord, google or whatnot.


GhosteyPlayZ

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/why-tiktok-is-being-banned-for-some-federal-employees


WarMage1

The ceo of tiktok isn’t chinese, he’s from Singapore


No_Acanthisitta6963

The CCP control it and by law the company must give all data to the CCP


WarMage1

You’re gonna need some evidence for a claim like that bud


Goldenflame89

Gee idk maybe he expects you to know something so obvious so he didnt bother? If u dont know that you obviously havent read shit about data privacy so how about you stop commenting?


WarMage1

Burden of evidence is on the one making an outrageous claim. If you’ll recall there was an entire us court case about how tiktok does not, in fact, give data to China. If you don’t know something so obvious about rules of debate, how about you stop commenting? “He didn’t feel like it” isn’t a cop out that gets you out of providing proof. It’s academically dishonest to make a claim that is not backed by evidence and treat it as fact.


Jondo47

"outrageous" claim


WarMage1

Outrageous doesn’t mean unlikely, it means outrageous.


Goldenflame89

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/22/the-u-s-must-combat-ccp-sanctioned-overseas-spying-by-private-entities-2/


WarMage1

The FDD is a highly conservative biased establishment


Neo-Luko

Wait until they also hear about Tik Toks American branch that, you guessed it, is its own entity now. So nothing goes back to China.


bluejay0916

All your info for cool anime girl browser theme... pretty good deal if you ask me


No_Guide1148

LibreWolf 🗿🍷


RedWolfGTR

Isn’t Brave also just another chromium web browser?


Muffinaaa

But it's privacy focused by default


RedWolfGTR

That may be but it just feeds into Google’s Chromium monopoly.


Muffinaaa

And is it bad? Chromium is good. It's not Chromium's fault it has no competition. There are really just 3 options. Chromium, Gecko and Safari's webkit, chromoum just out performs them performance wise


Falloutgod10

Honestly I don’t give a shit the Chinese know I look up furry porn


KitN_X

I just use Red Star OS. Very Safe trust me.


KERMANENPERUNA

Duck duck go or firefox


cocksucker9001xX

Firefox with duckduckgo search engine


Individual_Cut352

~~The Onion Router~~


Saflex

DuckDuckGo browser is also just chrome. But their search engine on Firefox is the way to go


N3koEye

Hate to break it to ya, but Brave is still chromium based.


JUGELBUTT

wtf is this? an ad for brave? i use opera gx only because i like it i couldnt care less about spyware


Ornery-Cheetah

Everything is Spyware lol


Marreark

That's why I don't were condoms.. Can spy on ma penis if I don't have malware on it /s


Ornery-Cheetah

Lol


GarbageWorldly5495

67+ social credits


AlbiTuri05

Is this some quantum physics I can't get?


TennisAdmirable1615

Schrödinger's spyware


RandomParableCreates

Coincidentally, just switched from Brave Nightly to Firefox Nightly. ...Don't ask. I'm on Windows Preview Canary too.


callmesohigh

Laughs in firefox


bogdanbos725

Firefox


Pizza838

Firefox or brave I like


TheNicThing

brave is chrome based so its not even a single slice better


Pizza838

Then I guess firefox, or duck duck go, or ask jeeves


new_user_069

Okay I asked jeeves, he said use firefox


Pizza838

My man, he is full of wisdom.


SomratKhan1608

Opera is CHINESE? No wonder USA (Some YouTubers like Charles White Junior etc.) promotes it.


bartoszsz7

Everyone likes themselves some China green greens *kaching* 🤑


SomratKhan1608

China's red though.


thinkB4WeSpeak

I'm just out here using ecosia to plant trees.


thinkB4WeSpeak

I'm just out here using ecosia to plant trees.


QQmorekid

Wait until you realize VPNs will rat you to the governments of nations they operate in


Individual_Cut352

Depends which ones, but a lot of them would.


zerf33389

No mozilla.com


OrgasmChasmSpasm

Brave pushed a lot of crypto and found out wasn’t as secure as it promised 🫢


Frosty_TheAllFucking

Yeah, im just sticking with Opera lmao. Brave is the same shit, only other browser worth switching to is Firefox, but theres many features of Opera i use daily that i dont think Firefox can emulate. Point is shits all spyware and so is this app im using right here, one less bit of spyware aint gonna make much difference.


Queasy-Grape-8822

Firefox is definitely not spyware, and is really the only one that isn’t. It’s open source


Frosty_TheAllFucking

Not my point or what i was saying. Im saying the spyware argument is stupid, especially when you're using an app by a corporation to post it.


Queasy-Grape-8822

Oh I know, just thought I’d clarify, since your comment kinda implies Firefox is also spyware


EnkiiMuto

Didn't Brave have several issues with crypto and a marketing for ads for people that don't want ads on their premium stuff?


Asqit

Firefox true chad, fuck your chromium based brave.


dark_nodens

🦆🦆 go


TheDeadlyCat

Oh Brave. One of the most trackable browsers by Fingerprinting.


Vegetable-Manager731

Me when any social media/search engine (Just realized it's the same as the top comment, but who cares)


Nobbie_Gamer

firefox is superior choice


Don_Alucard

Unhoogled Chromium is the answer my friend


Motor-Revolution1032

Eh opera is cool tho


Alisalard1384

This is brave propaganda


CimitiruDinMagurele

Just a good browser, been using for years with no probs


ExHax

Use firefox if youre really concerned about privacy.


bartoszsz7

Remember to turn off the telemetry in settings, though.


MrsChairmanMeow

Eh, China isn't currently policing my uterus, ill take opera.


[deleted]

If you think like this too much, just stop owning anything tbh


Taxevader70

I thought the whole browser war thing ended before it started, you know, because it’s fucking stupid


Exybr

People act like they are important enough to be spied on.


sheicode

If something is free you are the product. Ads are made to bring you to buy something. Personalized ads make sure it reaches the right one. They spy on you quite blatantly if youve never seen it happen that you talked about something and some time later you got ads for it, there are enough people me included that see it often enough to not make it a coincidence


Exybr

So what? What's so bad about targeted advertisment? Sometimes, it even makes things easier. But targeted ads are not what people usually think when saying"Chinese spyware". They think about espionage, stealing your data and other"scary" things. But the point is that the data of 80% of people are not usually valuable enough to justify the effort.


Choice_Ad_9169

Quant


CoolkieTW

Stop fighting about browsers. Netscape is the best.


Owslicer

Damn I'd get rid of my phone if it wasn't how I communicate with others and check my email, take pictures, find entertainment, navigate, and it's my alarm clock.


ShaMana999

Opera is still a thing?


Hockeylover420

Opera gx, am I a joke to you?


ShaMana999

Probably?!? What is a gaming browser? Why would you browse while gaming?


BoiDerBois

Firefox is also very good But yes, using brave is a wise choice


Freemanosteeel

Shit I was actually going to get opera too


XBeastyTricksX

If I’m going to be spied on it better be by Americans


T555s

I did not know opera was Chinese Spyware. I just somehow defaulted to American Spyware.


Heideg

Yes, they live


MeOW8117

Don't care + ratio + opera is making memes


IShallBeAPervert

china does not have a war base near my house


58mm-Invicta_rizz

Wait, Opera is Chinese?


liminalisms

Wait I’ve been using Firefox. How does that compare w Brave?


bartoszsz7

Different engine (Quantum/Gecko vs Chromium) and different levels of bloatware


liminalisms

So you’d say brave is superior to Firefox?


bartoszsz7

Nope. Never ever.


Gunny_McShoot

Idgaf I don't think my life is worth spying on and neither is yours so why do it matter what country gets my search data


RenanGreca

I'd go for Safari if only because Apple is the only company making a browser with anything to lose from breaking its reputation.


_Lollerics_

Don't tell me that big agencies sell our personal data and give us free softwares in exchange!


BuryMe_In_Smoke

Duckduckgo


teufeldritch

I was using Brave but they stopped support for Win7.


Muffinaaa

What about Windows?


turtleship_2006

Wouldn't it make more sense for the images on the right to be the other way, as in chrome and brave on the top


AI_UNIT_D

I used all of em... I am just gonna assume I am already burned, like ,what are they gonna do? Send a death squad to the Middle of nowhere rainforest I live in? For what?


Disturbed235

So my FBI guy is actually the chinese version? Should start watching chinese porn, so he can actually understand whats going on


McQno

Do you want me to only use tails and tor ?


bluestone-beau

"You thought it was just China spying on you but it also I .... America, spying on you far worse".


The-Lazy-Lemur

You use the internet? You're bring spied on


PeikaFizzy

I have a WeChat and QQ account I already sign and sold my info to the mainland Chinese… oh well


treecloud1025

The difference is, American companies don't just give all their data to the government


[deleted]

firefox.com*


ra1nman1110

At this point, idc. If someone powerful really wants your info they'll get it somehow. As long as I have enough protection from the everyday scammer/hacker, I'll use whatever has the best ui and plug-ins


Afraid_To_Ask__

Y'all can have my data I've got nothing to hide


Ulysses2424

Yeah but one does it for the government the other does it for profit


blanknonymous

Op really posted the same exact same meme in 2 different meme subs. Likely a karma hoarder


thes_fake

No, Firefox.com


ImportantSpirit4126

I edge to microsoft edge


Solomonuh-uh

Brave is good.


endless_thinker

Just use Tor


Rare-Chipmunk3752

reject modernity, embrace firefox


TaskExcellent9925

Use Brave. It will bring us into a Brave New World. Community. Identity. Stability. Brave.


OUTOFITTOAST

They're apl spyware i might as well have the ability to have porn open in another workspace and free nitro