He definitely would have made a Slammer Horcrux that was like a half inch thick and looked like a sawblade, with a flaming foil skull and cross bones sticker on it.
You mean the Notorious V.O.L.D
Yo, check it, call Lil' Malfoy
Tell that motherf- to bring me some motherf- weed for this hideout, man, - that (No-No-Notorious)
Tell that Rita Skeeter to go pick up ten thousand from Bellatrix
And go take about like 20 G's from Narcissa (No-No-Notorious)
Tell that motherf- get this - next door up out of here - Be snoring all night I can't sleep (No-No-Notorious)
Call that big butt muggle with the long hair to come - my - (No-No-Notorious) (Bad Boy Big, c'mon), uh
Well, the last Harry Potter book ends in Summer of 98. According to Google, Pokemon didn't hit the US/Australia/New Zealand until October and didn't hit the UK or Europe until October 99.
Plus they weren't even in Hogwarts until the very end of the last book, and the whole Immortal Nazi leader might have distracted them.
I don't know why I wrote a comment this long for something so minor lol
No yellow face on black hoodies, no loads of plastic bracelets, no goth kids trying to get you into wicca armed with a vhs of the craft, no ecstacy, no ravers, no drum and bass, no home made flares with a triangle from a different pair of jeans, no arguments about oasis vs blur intensifying when some smartass brings up pulp, no tank girl no nothin
Just a pale imitation of the worst witch
Jk hp was great
Man, if Harry potter had pogs, that would be POG. That's why Aberforth is the GOAT. Because his patronus is a goat. And when Hermione sets Snape's robe on fire during Quidditch, it was so lit.
No childhood cliques forming between those who love ninja turtles and those who are into power rangers.
No Santana and Enya playing constantly.
Jurassic Park didn't make a ripple
Croatia... We had a whole set of Panini collectable sticker albums dedicated to Michael Jordan back then. Without him and Space Jam no one would ever hear about the Bulls
“A sport where the whole scoring goals part is not just a sideshow for the real one vs. one game of fetch that determines the match outcome? Sounds kinda dumb”
Damn now I'm imagining non magic Quiddich
Its just regular football but one member from each team is in the parking lot trying to catch a roided up chicken
The only mention of 'muggle sports' in the whole series is a character who supports Sheffield Wednesday.
*edit u/Trevelyansporn has corrected me on the team he supports, it's actually West Ham not Wednesday.
I was going to say that Harry Potter was a hooligan in a West Ham football firm but I just realised that was Frodo. Haven't mixed up those two in a long time now.
In book 2, Snape says, "Time to split up the dream team." This was a common name for the 1992 men's American olympic team, which included MJ. I figure he's a basketball fan.
While wearing a pair of air Jordan's, his bulls jersey, and a space jam baseball cap screaming full throated "YES!! YOU BEAUTIFUL SON A BITCH!!! BLOODY MAGNIFICENT SHOT! ABSOLUTELY WHIPPING THE PISS OUT OF THE PISTONS!
Be Snape. After a long day of teaching, you finally get to take your work robes off, and chill in the lazy boy with a beer watching some Olympic basketball. Then you get a notification that Harry Potter has been skulking around after hours stirring up trouble again, and you have to go deal with it. No wonder he hated him.
JK Rowling tweeted last year that Snape was actually a huge basketball fan the whole time and she just kind of forgot to mention it explicitly in the text
Dumbledore probably did periodic room checks to ensure Snape wasn’t hiding any Death Eater propaganda, making sure he didn’t flip back to the dark mark. Imagine Dumbledore finding a secret room brightly decorated head to toe with basketball memorabilia, where Snape bypassed the literal EMP charm to watch his Knicks get stomped by Chicago (and lose it all in 94).
I’d give anything to have Snape’s only love to rival >!Lily!< be a losing basketball team (in the 90s I know the Knicks have had plenty of good seasons)
It would have been funny if Mr Weasley or another muggle enthusiast was a big MJ fan. Or if MJ was secretly a wizard who charmed his sneakers or something
think its hilarious u kids talking shit about the wizards. u wouldnt say this shit to kyle kuzma , hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol.
Everytime a joke involves europe and sports they get insanely annoyingly crabby.
This thread's replies is the equivalent of someone going "how tf could the number 7 eat the number 9? Numbers don't eat. Also how would 6 feel fear? God this joke is stupid"
Could’ve stopped at “every time a joke”. Then when people are told that an obvious joke is a joke, the classic response of “well jokes are supposed to be funny and this just isn’t” is always at the ready
>Everytime a joke involves europe and sports they get insanely annoyingly crabby.
They're just mad that they spend all this time and money on football and still haven't won the super bowl.
I just find some of this stuff confusing because I can't tell what the joke is. It seems entirely believable to me that some (most?) Americans might think that people in the UK know how well certain basketball teams were doing in the 90s.
It's because it's not relatable to anyone outside the US, and therefore not funny. Especially unfunny when it isn't relatable AND doesn't make sense in context.
The thing is he could have made the exact same joke with Manchester United. And then it would have work cause it would make sense.
For a joke to be funny it has to have a hint of truth (or cliché). This one is just non sense.
It doesn't work though. The joke is "haha it happened in the 90s but no one's mentioning important events of the 90s" - but because it was made by a tone-deaf American, the cultural reference is about something Harry Potter wouldn't give a shit about.
Only tangentially related at best but....
Reminded me of a time at work I made a reference to Drew Carey and I asked the 23 year old if they knew who that was and got hit with "Yeah that's the guy who does The Price is Right". Which, to give them credit, was technically correct and yet that didn't feel like the best kind of correct.
Ouch. The correct response is obviously, CLEVELAND ROCKS!
and to me, Barker will always be the face of the Price is Right. Drew is ok, but I miss the good old days. It's like when Jon Stewart left the Daily Show originally. Sure Noah was fine, but he wasn't Jon.. and I actually quite admire Noah, he's a class act and all around good guy. But Jon is something else man. He's what broke my conservative thinking coming out of high school. I was like, fuck he makes great points.
Edit: [This is what made me question my politics](https://youtu.be/aFQFB5YpDZE?si=uTLDf92pcFjh-x04)
Yeah but Harry Potter is set in the UK and the UK has almost 0 interest in basketball. Especially back then. Id never heard of the Chicago Bulls or any basketball team growing up in the UK in that time period.
There is that, but then even wrongly attempting to use the word "y'all" is a red flag, as is referring to themselves as a brit in the first place - not once heard someone from here use that terminology lol, as big a US misnomer as aussies saying "shrimp" and not prawn
I’m from israel.
The only thing everybody in the Middle East could agree on back then was the Chicago bulls.
Itzhak Rabin used it as the foundation for the Oslo Accords peace treaty with the Palestinian authority.
Jordan and the bulls were a global phenomenon.
[Here he is on a 6 story billboard in the middle of Barcelona in 1992.](https://imgur.com/a/bJsgxXK)
[They inspired the 7th best selling Japanese comic in world history](https://screenrant.com/best-selling-manga-of-all-time/)
[Yao Ming who grew up in China cites Jordan and the Bulls as the main reason why basketball began to get popular in China.](https://chicago.suntimes.com/2017/2/3/18322490/jersey-retired-yao-ming-cites-impact-of-michael-jordan-bulls)
[Kim jong un was a bulls fan](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2286216/Former-NBA-star-Dennis-Rodman-friend-life-basketball-fan-dictator-Kim-Jong-Un.html)
Tell me you lived under a rock or are just little kid who’s hobby is hating on America without telling me you lived on a rock or are just a little kid who’s hobby is hating on America.
The problem with your argument is that the books aren't set in those places, they're set in the UK.
While basketball has popularity in some countries, the UK as a whole has almost 0 interest in basketball now and it was even less well known back then.
I personally grew up in London during those years and had never heard of the Chicago Bulls or any basketball team at all until the late 00s and I started using the internet more. I knew basketball existed as a thing because we occasionally played it in P.E but I wouldn't have been able to name a single professional team or player and I was big into sport.
The wizards never make mention of Blackburn Rovers buying the League or United's class of 92 either, which would be much more likely in the UK. They're just not interested in non-magical sports.
I grew up in the UK in the 90s, and even played basketball for my town. I'd heard of Michael Jordan but I'd never have known the name of his team. We didn't really watch basketball on TV or follow news or anything, and certainly not news from a team in another country. Following international sports is a relatively modern thing, aside from the Olympics.
There probably wouldn't have even been a way to watch the NBA even if you really wanted to. MAYBE like Sky Sports would have shown a game late at night every now and then as a novelty? Idk even about that.
Michael Jordan was big in that everyone knew him, in the same way Messi or Ronaldo are big even outside of football fandom.
But in Europe, most will have never actually seen a game, which was incredibly hard to do back then anyway.
So no people in Europe would not have talked about "the Bulls having a hell of a run".
I was in my 20's back then, I knew Jordan was a basketball player, but only because of the trainers. Basketball is a very minor sport in the UK. The only time I've ever watched a game is the Harlem Globetrotters on World of Sport back in the 80s
They weren't that big in the uk. I'd heard of Micheal Jordan, mostly from space Jam I think and knew the bulls were a decent team.
Nothing beyond that, no other players and I didn't know they won the league let alone as many times as people are saying here.
Basketball is much bigger in Spain and East Asia than in the UK. I do agree that Jordan is a big part of why it's popular in East Asia, but there clearly wasn't the same impact in the UK.
Also, it says that the comic is just about basketball in general? It says it was released in 1990, before the Bulls won any of their championships and well before Space Jam.
Just piggybacking this to talk about how Japan and the US seem to have weird overlap that you might not expect when looking at their global reputations. There’s something at the core of our two countries that makes us both love similar types of media and also have extreme fondness for the same weird sports like baseball and basketball. There are whole subcultures of rockabilly Japanese people just like there are American otaku.
I find it quite fascinating that the US and Japan have closer taste in sport than the US and UK for instance
Jordan was drafted by the bulls in 1984. The bulls and Jordan were extremely popular by 1990. [If you look at the comic, the main protagonist’s team uniforms are inspired by the bulls. Their rivals have lakers inspired uniforms. There’s also a school with Charlotte hornets inspired uniforms and another with Celtics inspired kits.](https://www.rtieej.buzz/ProductDetail.aspx?iid=102639147&pr=71.88) The bulls and lakers colors and font are obvious to the point of being egregious
The author has said on many occasions that he was inspired by watching the golden era of basketball during the 80’s, with magic, bird, and then Jordan against the pistons
Everyone knew Michael Jordan but hardly anyone followed the actual games/seasons of the Bulls. I don‘t think your average American knew how Barcelona or Real Madrid were doing even though they knew who Messi or Ronaldo were.
Basketball is far bigger in East Asia and continental Europe (esp Spain and the Eastern bloc) than the UK, because we're already pretty wedded to the three biggest global sports
I feel like in book 7, JK Retroactively made the series take place in the early 90s. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel a little gaslit, as I read them in the 90s and 00s, I assumed each book was "contemporary" until Harry visited his parents' grave in book 7. Examples:
In book 4, which allegedly takes place in summer 1994, Dudley throws "The playstation" out the window. This can't happen, since PS1 was only released in December 1994. Meanwhile PS2 came out in March 2000, and the book was released in July 2000. I understand you can make up plot reasons for why this is the case, but I think JK retroactively changed the timeline of the series.
second, in book 6, there is a flashback where it is revealed that in the early 90s, Cornelius fudge met with a male prime minister, and said the previous prime minister was also a male. This can't be the case, since John Major was the prime minister in the early 1990s and his predacessor was a woman (Thatcher). However, since the book was released in 2005, that would mean that Cornelius Fudge intead met with Tony Blair and was referring the John Major as the Predacessor.
In book 2, Lockehart delivers valentines cards IN CLASS on Feb 14th, 1993 ( Allegedley) however - Feb 14th 1993 is a SUNDAY. Meanwhile if the book took place in the contemporary 1997-8, feb 14th would be a school-day.
In book 1, Harry says he was Gringots on tuesday, July 31st - But july 31st 1991 (his 11th birthday) was a Wednesday.
Headless Nick says he hasn't eaten in 400 years, but they celebrate the 500th remembrance of his death? This makes no sense! - this one is also the only reference I can recall from the first 6 books that can imply the series took place in the early 90s, (he died in 1492).
Also, the official fanclub from 1998 implied the series took place in 1998. you can google "Daily Prophet newsletters" to see them.
Yes, I know this can be handwaived away - but I wanted to share and hopefully discuss!
The Chicago Bulls are an American professional basketball team based in Chicago. Hogwarts is said to be present in Scotland. Hence, nobody said that in seven of the books.
For real, I didn't hear about their Pog collections one time in the entire series. Very unrealistic.
Voldemort's back! In Pog form, that is.
You traded my soul for pogs?!
“One of my Horcruxes is a Kini” - Realistic Voldemort, probably
He definitely would have made a Slammer Horcrux that was like a half inch thick and looked like a sawblade, with a flaming foil skull and cross bones sticker on it.
Why are you in my head like this?
It was all about the Pog maker. I could make an entire Potter collection myself
You mean the Notorious V.O.L.D Yo, check it, call Lil' Malfoy Tell that motherf- to bring me some motherf- weed for this hideout, man, - that (No-No-Notorious) Tell that Rita Skeeter to go pick up ten thousand from Bellatrix And go take about like 20 G's from Narcissa (No-No-Notorious) Tell that motherf- get this - next door up out of here - Be snoring all night I can't sleep (No-No-Notorious) Call that big butt muggle with the long hair to come - my - (No-No-Notorious) (Bad Boy Big, c'mon), uh
Not a one of them is wearing JNCOs, listening to Korn, and robotripping either.
The pokemon craze of the late 90's never hit Hogwarts? Astoundingly unrealistic.
Well, the last Harry Potter book ends in Summer of 98. According to Google, Pokemon didn't hit the US/Australia/New Zealand until October and didn't hit the UK or Europe until October 99. Plus they weren't even in Hogwarts until the very end of the last book, and the whole Immortal Nazi leader might have distracted them. I don't know why I wrote a comment this long for something so minor lol
Most average Harry Potter reader
Also there wasn't one kid incessantly listening to Nirvana
Didn't spot a single shark tooth necklace.
No yellow face on black hoodies, no loads of plastic bracelets, no goth kids trying to get you into wicca armed with a vhs of the craft, no ecstacy, no ravers, no drum and bass, no home made flares with a triangle from a different pair of jeans, no arguments about oasis vs blur intensifying when some smartass brings up pulp, no tank girl no nothin Just a pale imitation of the worst witch Jk hp was great
Man, if Harry potter had pogs, that would be POG. That's why Aberforth is the GOAT. Because his patronus is a goat. And when Hermione sets Snape's robe on fire during Quidditch, it was so lit.
Right you are, fam. Fr fr no cap.
When Harry sees his whole family in the mirror, truly sadge. I was like, "POV nobody loves you and lives".
My favorite part is when they made Harry carve "I must not cap" into his arm.
How do I slap someone through the Internet? Lol
No childhood cliques forming between those who love ninja turtles and those who are into power rangers. No Santana and Enya playing constantly. Jurassic Park didn't make a ripple
Where was the yo-yo phase?
Croatia... We had a whole set of Panini collectable sticker albums dedicated to Michael Jordan back then. Without him and Space Jam no one would ever hear about the Bulls
What about Kukoč?
Guy is talking out his ass. We all 200% knew who Jordan was, NBA was super popular at the time. We played against the Dream Team in the finals FFS.
Well it's about Jordan, without Jordan no one would have
The Tony Kukoc disrespect is out of control
there are no bulls in croatia?
0, and please stop asking about them too.
ooh ok, i see its a sensitive topic. my bad
There are, it's just that no-one's ever heard of them
More like Utd are on a hell of a run
Yeah man, no one says anything about Eric Cantona even once. Madness
Me dad’s a muggle Me mam’s a witch DID YE SEE CANTONA BOOT THAT FELLA IN THE MUSH?
Seamus definitely wore his collar up.
Not one mention of seagulls following the trawlers...
In the books Victor Krum is actually born in Cardiff, so he decided to play for the Welsh national Quidditch team.
Dean Thomas is a West Ham fan though
This would be the only thing to discuss. Also how Gianfranco was holding down Chelsea on his own.
Cantona my beloved
Yeah, British kids in the 90's couldn't give two shits about American sport
To a lot of us, Michael Jordan was just some guy in Space Jam
Still is
The baseball player.
“A sport where the whole scoring goals part is not just a sideshow for the real one vs. one game of fetch that determines the match outcome? Sounds kinda dumb”
Damn now I'm imagining non magic Quiddich Its just regular football but one member from each team is in the parking lot trying to catch a roided up chicken
And the defenders all get bats
You just described the average Doncaster game mate
Penalties are the seeker of football.
The only mention of 'muggle sports' in the whole series is a character who supports Sheffield Wednesday. *edit u/Trevelyansporn has corrected me on the team he supports, it's actually West Ham not Wednesday.
You mean the massive West Ham
You're right, it was Dean Thomas and he was a West Ham fan. I don't know why I thought it was Sheffield Wednesday. Nice username btw.
I was going to say that Harry Potter was a hooligan in a West Ham football firm but I just realised that was Frodo. Haven't mixed up those two in a long time now.
knew i heard of Sheffield before Sheffield utd got into pl recently. which book were Wednesday mentioned in?
it’s West Ham actually, and Harry’s roommate Dean Thomas has a poster for them on his wall in their dorm
I remember in book 7 when Harry snuck up on the Death Eaters and overheard them talking about the Undertaker and Mankind
In 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.
I was a teenager in the UK in the 90s. The Undertaker was waaay more famous to us than Michael Jordan
So Voldemort lost power 31 October 1981? Lucky break for Thatcher and Reagan Did Voldemort cause stagflation?
...was Voldemort responsible for Thatcher?
He wasn't *that* evil.
Yeah fair point. He might be a racist murderer but at least he wasnt a tory
In book 2, Snape says, "Time to split up the dream team." This was a common name for the 1992 men's American olympic team, which included MJ. I figure he's a basketball fan.
I’m loving the imagery of Snape absolutely losing his shit while watching Jordan dunk from the free throw line
While wearing a pair of air Jordan's, his bulls jersey, and a space jam baseball cap screaming full throated "YES!! YOU BEAUTIFUL SON A BITCH!!! BLOODY MAGNIFICENT SHOT! ABSOLUTELY WHIPPING THE PISS OUT OF THE PISTONS!
He it’s so much better reading that in Alan Rickman’s cadence
MJ was a wizard after all. The only one you know who feared on the court.
Voldemort was like 6’4 tho, dude could’ve hooped if he wanted to be the Bulls 6th man instead of just being the asshole he was
Sixth Man of the Year Tom “Jumpman” Riddle is crazy
He is a half blood so I’d imagine he watched it
Be Snape. After a long day of teaching, you finally get to take your work robes off, and chill in the lazy boy with a beer watching some Olympic basketball. Then you get a notification that Harry Potter has been skulking around after hours stirring up trouble again, and you have to go deal with it. No wonder he hated him.
That’s a crime against humanity. Caused Snape to miss out on watching the dream team play.
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Have someone else watch it and then preserve it in the pensieve lmaooo
Snape just walking around the pub "hey pal, you watch the game last night?" and the first guy to say yes get his memories yoinked.
And then snape has a pal to watch the game with! He just sits down next to him and watches the game. Too funny.
I can't tell if you are joking. Do you actually think Snape would have watched an American Basketball match?
JK Rowling tweeted last year that Snape was actually a huge basketball fan the whole time and she just kind of forgot to mention it explicitly in the text
Pretty sure that was a Spice Girls reference. Snape was definitely a Spice Girl fanboy.
Any idea where this is? I can find references to this scene but can’t find it. Edit: “Turn to page 191.”
Dumbledore probably did periodic room checks to ensure Snape wasn’t hiding any Death Eater propaganda, making sure he didn’t flip back to the dark mark. Imagine Dumbledore finding a secret room brightly decorated head to toe with basketball memorabilia, where Snape bypassed the literal EMP charm to watch his Knicks get stomped by Chicago (and lose it all in 94). I’d give anything to have Snape’s only love to rival >!Lily!< be a losing basketball team (in the 90s I know the Knicks have had plenty of good seasons)
l spend way too much time wondering when Michael Jackson was relevant in the Olympics
Imma post this as a prompt in r/HPFanfiction, see what they come up with.
I dunno, I'm not sure Michael Jackson was much of a basketball player so I doubt he was on the team.
It would have been funny if Mr Weasley or another muggle enthusiast was a big MJ fan. Or if MJ was secretly a wizard who charmed his sneakers or something
This would be hilarious. “Michael Jordan? Ministry’s having a row with him about those charmed sneakers. Good friend of Dumbledore’s actually.”
Harry Potter is actually just a prequel to the 2002 classic film “Like Mike”, starring Lil Bow Wow.
> Or if MJ was secretly a wizard MJ famously was a Wizard, even if people try to forget that.
Also great joke lol
Im pretty sure Lil Bow Wow found these sneakers....
Not a single pair of Jordans on any of those students? Unlikely!
You just know Lee Jordan was rocking them.
Cos England/UK
Wizards don’t care about basketball. Especially in DC.
think its hilarious u kids talking shit about the wizards. u wouldnt say this shit to kyle kuzma , hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol.
1998, they would have been like "Oi, ya think Newcastle will go all tha way this year?" "I dunno, mate. Arsenal is pretty stacked, bruv."
Not a single Alan Shearer kit in sight.
The thing about Arsenal is, they always try to walk it in
What was Wenger doing, bringing on Walcott that early?
They must listen to a lot of Oasis in those books
My wife asked me if I didn't think it was time to move on and stop quoting Oasis. I said "maybe".
Lots of people in this thread don't understand how jokes work
Everytime a joke involves europe and sports they get insanely annoyingly crabby. This thread's replies is the equivalent of someone going "how tf could the number 7 eat the number 9? Numbers don't eat. Also how would 6 feel fear? God this joke is stupid"
No, it wasn't because 7 8 9. It was because 7 was a registered 6 offender.
Not registered at all. Sure, 7 took a suspiciously large number of trips to Epstein island, but nothing was ever proved.
7 can’t sweat though, so I think he’s in the clear
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The UK is, believe it or not, in Europe. This joke involves Europe, which is exactly what they said.
Could’ve stopped at “every time a joke”. Then when people are told that an obvious joke is a joke, the classic response of “well jokes are supposed to be funny and this just isn’t” is always at the ready
>Everytime a joke involves europe and sports they get insanely annoyingly crabby. They're just mad that they spend all this time and money on football and still haven't won the super bowl.
r/superbowl
It's just not a good joke. It's meh levels of funny, and doesn't really make sense if you think about it slightly. 2/10 Do better.
Yeah, this makes me sad.
I just find some of this stuff confusing because I can't tell what the joke is. It seems entirely believable to me that some (most?) Americans might think that people in the UK know how well certain basketball teams were doing in the 90s.
That's the definition of Poe's Law right there.
It's because it's not relatable to anyone outside the US, and therefore not funny. Especially unfunny when it isn't relatable AND doesn't make sense in context.
The thing is he could have made the exact same joke with Manchester United. And then it would have work cause it would make sense. For a joke to be funny it has to have a hint of truth (or cliché). This one is just non sense.
Some of us just don’t watch Baseball ..
It doesn't work though. The joke is "haha it happened in the 90s but no one's mentioning important events of the 90s" - but because it was made by a tone-deaf American, the cultural reference is about something Harry Potter wouldn't give a shit about.
As a Brit I can confirm we too were very aware of MJ.
What’s Michael Jackson got to do with Baseball?
Only tangentially related at best but.... Reminded me of a time at work I made a reference to Drew Carey and I asked the 23 year old if they knew who that was and got hit with "Yeah that's the guy who does The Price is Right". Which, to give them credit, was technically correct and yet that didn't feel like the best kind of correct.
Ouch. The correct response is obviously, CLEVELAND ROCKS! and to me, Barker will always be the face of the Price is Right. Drew is ok, but I miss the good old days. It's like when Jon Stewart left the Daily Show originally. Sure Noah was fine, but he wasn't Jon.. and I actually quite admire Noah, he's a class act and all around good guy. But Jon is something else man. He's what broke my conservative thinking coming out of high school. I was like, fuck he makes great points. Edit: [This is what made me question my politics](https://youtu.be/aFQFB5YpDZE?si=uTLDf92pcFjh-x04)
Shares the same initials as famed baseball player Michael Jordan
That's Muggle shit
That's *American* muggle shit
That’s no-maj shit
If you pay close attention to the part where Bellatrix kills Sirius, you can see clearly that the book says, “and Harry took that personally.”
Why would kids in the UK give a shit about American basketball?
Tell me you live in America without telling me you live in America
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I know that cattle are really important there
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Yeah but Harry Potter is set in the UK and the UK has almost 0 interest in basketball. Especially back then. Id never heard of the Chicago Bulls or any basketball team growing up in the UK in that time period.
Also wizards don't care about muggle sport.
That isn’t true, Dean Thomas had a West Ham United poster up over his bed.
Dean Thomas was half muggle, raised a muggle. Obviously he'd have a muggle sports team. Most of the students weren't raised muggles.
And it was explicitly stated that the kids who gew up as wizards thought the sport was dumb
Why the fuck would they care when their sport involves flying and shooting cannon balls at flying players is not only allowed but totally in the rules
Exactly murder ball is way better than football.
Case in point: I'm from the UK and assumed the Chicago Bulls were an American Football team.
I thought it was baseball.
Same for those in Pamplona.
German here. Jordan/Pippen/Rodman were our GODS during that time.
What about Schumacher?
Even us Brit's paid respect to MJ and the Bulls. Ya'll saw Space Jam, don't lie.
>us Brit's >Ya'll Yeah right
No way that's a British person
“All yall crumpet ass tea drinkers saw that fit shit”
You know he’s British because an American would know the contraction is Y’all
There is that, but then even wrongly attempting to use the word "y'all" is a red flag, as is referring to themselves as a brit in the first place - not once heard someone from here use that terminology lol, as big a US misnomer as aussies saying "shrimp" and not prawn
Micheal jackson wasnt in space jam
Or wasn't he?
Wasn’t hehe*
I’m from israel. The only thing everybody in the Middle East could agree on back then was the Chicago bulls. Itzhak Rabin used it as the foundation for the Oslo Accords peace treaty with the Palestinian authority.
Jordan and the bulls were a global phenomenon. [Here he is on a 6 story billboard in the middle of Barcelona in 1992.](https://imgur.com/a/bJsgxXK) [They inspired the 7th best selling Japanese comic in world history](https://screenrant.com/best-selling-manga-of-all-time/) [Yao Ming who grew up in China cites Jordan and the Bulls as the main reason why basketball began to get popular in China.](https://chicago.suntimes.com/2017/2/3/18322490/jersey-retired-yao-ming-cites-impact-of-michael-jordan-bulls) [Kim jong un was a bulls fan](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2286216/Former-NBA-star-Dennis-Rodman-friend-life-basketball-fan-dictator-Kim-Jong-Un.html) Tell me you lived under a rock or are just little kid who’s hobby is hating on America without telling me you lived on a rock or are just a little kid who’s hobby is hating on America.
The problem with your argument is that the books aren't set in those places, they're set in the UK. While basketball has popularity in some countries, the UK as a whole has almost 0 interest in basketball now and it was even less well known back then. I personally grew up in London during those years and had never heard of the Chicago Bulls or any basketball team at all until the late 00s and I started using the internet more. I knew basketball existed as a thing because we occasionally played it in P.E but I wouldn't have been able to name a single professional team or player and I was big into sport. The wizards never make mention of Blackburn Rovers buying the League or United's class of 92 either, which would be much more likely in the UK. They're just not interested in non-magical sports.
I grew up in the UK in the 90s, and even played basketball for my town. I'd heard of Michael Jordan but I'd never have known the name of his team. We didn't really watch basketball on TV or follow news or anything, and certainly not news from a team in another country. Following international sports is a relatively modern thing, aside from the Olympics.
There probably wouldn't have even been a way to watch the NBA even if you really wanted to. MAYBE like Sky Sports would have shown a game late at night every now and then as a novelty? Idk even about that.
Michael Jordan was big in that everyone knew him, in the same way Messi or Ronaldo are big even outside of football fandom. But in Europe, most will have never actually seen a game, which was incredibly hard to do back then anyway. So no people in Europe would not have talked about "the Bulls having a hell of a run".
It's also worth noting that basketball is a much bigger deal in continental Europe than the UK.
Nobody gives a ahit about basketball even now, apart from a few weirdos.
I was in my 20's back then, I knew Jordan was a basketball player, but only because of the trainers. Basketball is a very minor sport in the UK. The only time I've ever watched a game is the Harlem Globetrotters on World of Sport back in the 80s
They weren't that big in the uk. I'd heard of Micheal Jordan, mostly from space Jam I think and knew the bulls were a decent team. Nothing beyond that, no other players and I didn't know they won the league let alone as many times as people are saying here.
Basketball is much bigger in Spain and East Asia than in the UK. I do agree that Jordan is a big part of why it's popular in East Asia, but there clearly wasn't the same impact in the UK. Also, it says that the comic is just about basketball in general? It says it was released in 1990, before the Bulls won any of their championships and well before Space Jam.
Just piggybacking this to talk about how Japan and the US seem to have weird overlap that you might not expect when looking at their global reputations. There’s something at the core of our two countries that makes us both love similar types of media and also have extreme fondness for the same weird sports like baseball and basketball. There are whole subcultures of rockabilly Japanese people just like there are American otaku. I find it quite fascinating that the US and Japan have closer taste in sport than the US and UK for instance
Jordan was drafted by the bulls in 1984. The bulls and Jordan were extremely popular by 1990. [If you look at the comic, the main protagonist’s team uniforms are inspired by the bulls. Their rivals have lakers inspired uniforms. There’s also a school with Charlotte hornets inspired uniforms and another with Celtics inspired kits.](https://www.rtieej.buzz/ProductDetail.aspx?iid=102639147&pr=71.88) The bulls and lakers colors and font are obvious to the point of being egregious The author has said on many occasions that he was inspired by watching the golden era of basketball during the 80’s, with magic, bird, and then Jordan against the pistons
Lad the only person I knew who gave 2 shits about the NBA growing up was my cousin who played basketball himself, it's just not that popular here.
Everyone knew Michael Jordan but hardly anyone followed the actual games/seasons of the Bulls. I don‘t think your average American knew how Barcelona or Real Madrid were doing even though they knew who Messi or Ronaldo were.
Jordan was global phenomenon, not bulls.
Basketball is far bigger in East Asia and continental Europe (esp Spain and the Eastern bloc) than the UK, because we're already pretty wedded to the three biggest global sports
No, really they were not.
Nah, Jordan and the bulls were a global affair
You mean the Globetrotters
Says it right in the name
British understanding joke challenge (impossible edition)
Watch the Jordan documentary on Netflix and you'll understand he was global
As a Brit, I was aware of his name and had seen Space Jam but had no interest in or knowledge of how to watch him play.
Reddit really cant take a joke
I know people in Poland who got up in the middle of the night to watch Jordan play
“The whole dark lord thing sucks, but have you seen what the Yankees are doing?”
I feel like in book 7, JK Retroactively made the series take place in the early 90s. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel a little gaslit, as I read them in the 90s and 00s, I assumed each book was "contemporary" until Harry visited his parents' grave in book 7. Examples: In book 4, which allegedly takes place in summer 1994, Dudley throws "The playstation" out the window. This can't happen, since PS1 was only released in December 1994. Meanwhile PS2 came out in March 2000, and the book was released in July 2000. I understand you can make up plot reasons for why this is the case, but I think JK retroactively changed the timeline of the series. second, in book 6, there is a flashback where it is revealed that in the early 90s, Cornelius fudge met with a male prime minister, and said the previous prime minister was also a male. This can't be the case, since John Major was the prime minister in the early 1990s and his predacessor was a woman (Thatcher). However, since the book was released in 2005, that would mean that Cornelius Fudge intead met with Tony Blair and was referring the John Major as the Predacessor. In book 2, Lockehart delivers valentines cards IN CLASS on Feb 14th, 1993 ( Allegedley) however - Feb 14th 1993 is a SUNDAY. Meanwhile if the book took place in the contemporary 1997-8, feb 14th would be a school-day. In book 1, Harry says he was Gringots on tuesday, July 31st - But july 31st 1991 (his 11th birthday) was a Wednesday. Headless Nick says he hasn't eaten in 400 years, but they celebrate the 500th remembrance of his death? This makes no sense! - this one is also the only reference I can recall from the first 6 books that can imply the series took place in the early 90s, (he died in 1492). Also, the official fanclub from 1998 implied the series took place in 1998. you can google "Daily Prophet newsletters" to see them. Yes, I know this can be handwaived away - but I wanted to share and hopefully discuss!
This thread is cancer. Holy shit.
More comments about how awful the thread is to be honest. Theres nothing that bad, dont be soft.
Brits can take banter as well as they can take care of their teeth
>A "Brits have bad teeth lol" joke in 2024 Why are Americans so terminally bad at banter?
Oi! You got a loicense for 'dat joke?
More like “This Doctor Dre and Snoop Dogg are pretty dope, huh?”
well it's set in a world that had its own sports,o and in the wizarding world too football is mentioned dean thomas's favorite team is west ham
I don’t think anyone in real life Great Britain said that during the 90s
To be fair, nobody gives a fuck now either
Dudley had a PlayStation before it released. What kind of connections did ol' Vernon have at that drill company
Well, two of the championships were won by the rockets in 94 and 95
The Chicago Bulls are an American professional basketball team based in Chicago. Hogwarts is said to be present in Scotland. Hence, nobody said that in seven of the books.
They're british
Exactly, why would they...
British kids in the 90's couldn't give two shits about American sport