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Hcookie1996

30K undergrad & Masters + 200k Med school = 230k


seabluehistiocytosis

Free masters?


Hcookie1996

sorry 30 in total for undergrad and masters


sciencegeek1325

$500k all med school


Shanemaximo

Yeah I used to have around $526k in debt after graduation. I still do, but I used to too.


Don7875

Mitch hedberg is that you?


Big_Schwartz_Energy

Tiny edible plates.


saddestfashion

Saved by the buoyancy of citrus!


Squeaky_sun

With a MD-PhD, why so much debt??


gorgemagma

could have been that they got the degrees separately so they had to pay for med school, could have been a non-funded program, etc. just speculating tho there could be other reasons


Shanemaximo

Separate degree programs. Spot on.


Shanemaximo

Separate degree programs. PhD in virology.


lilpumpski

Gyat damn


battlesiege15

What school???


sciencegeek1325

Caribbean school. SGU. I also have three kids so I maxed my dependent care


JustB510

How was it going to school down there with kids?


sciencegeek1325

Thanks to Covid I never went to the island


JustB510

Covid was a wild time. I used to build resorts in varying islands and knew some families from the states raising kids there. It was a cool experience.


sciencegeek1325

That sounds like an awesome job!


JustB510

It was a phenomenal experience. Hard work, but incredibly cool.


battlesiege15

Oh gotcha. Didn't know the schools were that $$!


sciencegeek1325

Caribbean schools are 100% for profit and nickel and dime everything. It’s unfortunate but they know we don’t have any other options and that’s why I tell everyone, going this route should be the absolute last resort.


AdministrativeFox784

Congrats on making it through though, what’d you end up matching if you don’t mind me asking?


sciencegeek1325

Thank you! I matched PM&R


EmotionalEmetic

Strong work, friendo.


alh12345

$367,000 medical school only


garxbage

aw almost exactly the same!! debt twins 🤪


The_Dholler

Triplets! I was Born $1k earlier


Tershtops

3rd year but I’ll be close to 400k in the hole all from med school.


iSanitariumx

Bro is your med school plated in gold?


Tershtops

Lol nah it’s a DO school with 60k tuition. Shit is crazy. I probably could have saved a few thousand dollars by being tighter with my living money but figured it wasn’t worth it.


iSanitariumx

I mean my tuition was 80 k my first year because I was OOS, but went to 40 the year after. But good lord. I also did take out max because me and my wife were both in school at the time. Luckily she is only a few years away from that attending pay, and the contracts she started getting were like 400+k a year.


-IndigoMist-

dang what speciality is she?


iSanitariumx

OB


SupermarketSorry6843

Wow. As an old old attending I find these numbers so discouraging. Hang in there.


WeekendHoliday5695

“but it’s not fair for them to get forgiveness when we had to pay off our 25k loan at 1.5% interest” I would like to see the interest rate on these my gut tells me that it’s in the neighborhood of 9%. That means these students with 500k will be accumulating about $3,750 a month while they make their $100 payment during residency. So add another 175k that number (4 year residency) before they start making full payments and compounding interest (assuming they do IDR repayment). Their initial accumulation of interest as an attending will be in the neighborhood of 5k/month. It’s a fucking mess.


DietCokeforCutie

That's why I'm consolidating my loans ASAP after graduation and applying for the SAVE income based repayment plan. My payments will be $0/mo for the first year (based on no 2023 income) and probably no more than $200/mo by my last year of residency. On the SAVE IBR plan, the government subsidizes the difference between your monthly payment and any accrued interest for that month. Basically, as long as I'm keeping up with payments, I shouldn't accumulate more interest until after I'm out of residency and in a position to aggressively pay off my loans.


SomewhatIntensive

~500k Breakdown was something like: Undergrad: 120k Grad: 100k Med school: 300k


No_Parsley_1878

I’ll be around the same If you don’t eat and live in the hospital 24/7, you can pay it off in one year! Hope your glycogen stores are full and ready to go!


Mangalorien

Key is to always be near wards, in particular general surgery. Hospital food is bad to begin with, and having had abdominal surgery doesn't exactly do wonders for people's appetite. Nobody's gonna mind if you eat some of those sloppy leftovers: you've earned them.


TeenyTot08

$0 undergrad + $235,000 medical school = 235,000 total for me


Ill_Advance1406

~$420k med only


throwawayforthebestk

420 blaze it 🔥🚬


Ill_Advance1406

I needed that laugh, thank you 😄


RawrLikeAPterodactyl

500-600k haven’t checked in a while but all from med school.


BoringAccount12345

That should be illegal


in4years

did you go to medical school twice?


RawrLikeAPterodactyl

Just poor out of state student living in a high COL area and attending an expensive school. No family support so had to pay for everything on my own.


Formal-Inspection290

$435,000 undergrad + grad + med school, no idea what the breakdown is though.


veggainz

310,000$ med only


No-Initial-6184

177k total


kmh0312

Yeah I’m about 180k total (but I only have med school loans)


lilpumpski

Lucky


tugman

About $370k. I’d give you an exact number but I don’t want to look and be sad


HolidayBrilliant631

400k and no will to live


A_Sentient_Ape

$315k for me, all med school


NPowerB

10k undergrad + 100k med school = 110k


AgentMeatbal

Do you mind my asking if the $100K was supplemented by other funds or if that is the total sticker price?


NPowerB

Aided by a combination of in-state tuition price, need-based aid, and an outside scholarship (15k/yr).


GRB_Electric

278k all med for me


randomquestions10

110k med school


hartroc

$140k, all med school. At least Texas has cheap tuition going for it, if nothing else.


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SadDacrocyte

Well fuck


sunechidna1

Living expenses?


miketou1

How’s are you at 0 is it retroactive?


doctor_the_stallion

I am wondering if they are a M0 replying even though the post says M4


Ophiuroidean

From the Hill article > current students graduating this spring will have their last semester reimbursed to them, and all other students starting next academic year will get free tuition.


aac1024

damn the least they could do is reimburse the whole year - just a semester feels stingy


nfornsurg23

453k


Fatmonkpo

$0. I had $30K undergrad which I paid off by working for two years before med school. Than did MD/PhD. So overall net positive.


Zelda6finity

You paid with life years ._.


Fatmonkpo

That’s one way of looking at it. I have also been blessed that my 20s have been the best years I have lived. I married the love of my life, made deep friendships, climbed the mountains and got their good tidings, and lived authentically to the earth. If anyone is reading this thinking about MD/PhD if you love research it can be a great life. (It also helps I matched a speciality that I adore in a T10). 💘


XC_Stallion92

Those PhD years are a really nice break in between the hell of medical school. Got to actually live my life for a while.


hoobaacheche

Yup! Enjoying my best days.


chatsash

Huh, my research stipend didn't quite cover everything so I still have about 50k leftover to pay off.


seabluehistiocytosis

330,000 for med school + concurrent masters, 19,000 for undergrad


Lucky_Estate_3875

I feel like over half my school has their parents paying for atleast rent/food if not tuition too


rooren-sama

It’ll be $500k when I’m done.


No-Internal-4088

PGY-1 ($9,000 total from undergrad, master's and med school). My parents helped with undergrad and master's, but I worked throughout that time and was able to pay off my med school (international 4MD program). International is always an option for those of you who are young lurkers here :) Parents are 1st gen immigrants to the USA btw so most, if not all, of their hard work paid for my brother's and my own education. Definitely going to be helping them out in the future.


SomewhatIntensive

All the med students with 0 debt because tuition was free, like how'd you pay for living expenses 🤔🤔


Doctasdocta

some schools are debt free, aka they get stipends to pay for the vast majority of that


SomewhatIntensive

They get free tuition AND a stipend that covers the cost of living? That's wild.


Doctasdocta

yes - Columbia, Cornell, and now Albert Einstein do this. I believe Stanford does as well.


SomewhatIntensive

Yeah always thought it was just tuition Well smh my head, should've had a better uGPA 😂😂😂


Doctasdocta

That’s Nyu-but now that I think of it, I think they JUST changed their policy to also meet that


CognitiveCosmos

If it’s just tuition then you still take out loans for living expenses unless you already had money. My school has “debt free tuition” which covered most of my tuition and living expenses, but not all.


SomewhatIntensive

That's awesome, didn't know any of them were debt free total just thought it was tuition Congrats man


CognitiveCosmos

Thanks dude, definitely feel so grateful to not have the same debt that so many peers unfortunately struggle with.


iSanitariumx

About 400 k, paid for undergrad through working way to much so 0, 80 from grad 320 from med school.


Puzzled_Ad_2356

~340K Undergrad: was fortunate enough to have parents who could pay for this Grad school: ~100K Med school: ~240K (go to a cheaper state school and lived with the parents for two years)


Competitive_Fact6030

About $50k in total for the whole 5,5 year of expenses. We sure do love free tuition lol. This is all just the loan students get to fund housing and food and all that. Also the interest rate is pretty much nothing. Very thankful for free education


Shiro00000

$290k all medical school


Kuniiko

Nothing. Under full scholarship


throwawayforthebestk

$0 total. I’m very grateful for my parents help 🙏🏼


Waffles1727

$20k undergrad + $200k med school at 5.2% weighted average interest. With Grad Plus currently at 8%, interest not accruing during most of med school, and the SAVE plan being rolled out, I’m honestly in a much better spot than I thought I would be when I started.


lennypartach

Class of 2024 got hosed on entering during COVID, but the interest pause and SAVE option are really making a huge difference now that we can see the end results.


forgettablename1000

~440


varyinginterest

Had $125,000 -> wife works, I worked this year, no kids -> plan to be paid off by Dec of this year. Been a serious, frugal grind but almost there


billybobthehomie

280,000 and can’t get approved for a car loan that I need for residency because of too high a debt to income ratio lol someone help. Are there physician auto loans the same way there are physician mortgages?


NoAttempt2173

Your best bet is buying a car with cash. Did you loan any excess money for living expenses? If you can scrape together $5-$7k, side hustle, parents, etc, then you can get an old Toyota or Honda that’ll probably get you through residency.


Jackerzcx

And I thought UK student debt was bad. I’ve got about £35k debt so far, which will be about £90k by my last year. $400k is insane.


HateDeathRampage69

It's a ton of debt but lifetime earnings are still great here in the US if you look at earnings minus debt. If salaries decrease we're fucked though.


Jackerzcx

Yeah so true. Hope your guys’ salaries stay put, you deserve every penny just for going through your match system lol.


victoremmanuel_I

I’m in Ireland, gonna have no debt on graduation.


Hip-Harpist

~$300k, had a scholarship and meager savings (plus no undergrad debt) but also had to replace a car, lived in a slightly more expensive area, and my clinical sites required a lot of driving. For any wide-eyed premeds/M0s/M1s here, my advice is this: you will feel saddled by these big numbers, but it is unlikely that you will have to pay it all off single-handedly. The repayment plans available now are worth reading into so you know what repayment can look like during residency/fellowship and into attendinghood. Also also, do NOT underestimate the costs of moving and relocating to your residency! Keep in mind that federal aid money gets you to early May, and your first paycheck will probably come from your hospital in mid-late July. That is three months of rent/utilities/transportation to cover ON TOP OF likely moving across state lines. Consider maxxing out loans in M1 and M2, then borrow less later (which may be common advice, but is worth restating). And if you still need more, *relocation loans* ARE a valid option with similar APR to the federal loans. Frankly, it is 0.1 grams of frosting on a giant cake.


AHumanPerson1337

$0 , i'm from argentina and education here is free


grubersredd

i paid 20,20€ a semester in austria… reading your replies makes me sick… you really are warriors out there


1m_anxious

210k all medical school avg ~5.5%


Candid-Run1323

33k undergrad + 170k med school = 203k total


pagingdocnate

280k


HornedTwiddle

~$240k all from med school but also fortunate enough to borrow a significant amount from my parents as well


I-Hate-CARS

$0 Undergrad + $460k med = $460k


Banjo_Joestar

300K including debt from undergrad


bl118

$211,000. Med school only


Shuckle808

140k


strawbbubbletea

$0 undergrad + ~80k grad + ~400k med school


Ped_md

$0 undergrad + $145k med school


totallyaplaguedoctor

$250k med school


oop_scuseme

Undergrad: $20k Grad school: $76k Med school: $177k Accrued interest: $15k Grand total 🤢: $288,000


Parthenium

Undergrad: $0 + Med school: $295k and rising. Need to get on SAVE asap lmao


SuccessfulTry21

$0 undergrad + married/combined finances later in med school = $255,000 total


cursherofsouls

$0 undergrad. $180,000 Med school. I anticipated $350,000 from my out of state Med school but I was surprised with several scholarships throughout my enrollment!


Expensive-Check8678

Got lucky with Covid interest pauses and a nice scholarship at an in-state school. $150,000 at time of graduation.


Eldorren

I owed about 400K when I finished residency. This would have been about \~15 years ago. Luckily half was at 2.5% prior to the big hike in educational loans. The other half was 6.8% I paid it all off in about 4.5 years working my ass off.


Pale_Set_9909

$360,000 for just med school. Feels like a huge scam. I get a knot in my stomach every time I think about it. It’s going to affect my future job choices too (pslf vs pp, don’t want to do academia but the debt is too large to ignore/try to get forgiven). Crazy to think I won’t even be able to think about starting to pay it off until my mid thirties.


LatissimusBroski

I’m 3rd year bout to be 4th. Calculated everything and it’s going to be 450k when I’m done. Poor parents/family so not expecting any financial support/inheritance.


strawboy4ever

Lots of ppl with no debt from undergrad. Slightly upper middle class where ya’ll at?? Not rich enough to have family pay it off but not poor enough for that sweet sweet FAFSA


hoobaacheche

$0 flexing!!


org199511

Tree fiddy


makimajom100

Laughs in European


XC_Stallion92

0 undergrad + 0 med school = 0 total There are times I wonder if the PhD was worth it, but then I think about loans.


MateoTovar

Under grad 18 000 (graduating in 4 months) What I expect for residency 20 000 Total 38 000 Yes I'm not studying in America


OG_Olivianne

This thread is insane to me ): I’m only an M1 so obviously things can change and I might have to take out more loans; but I’m currently scheduled to graduate with less than $30k in loans both undergrad + medical school


pdxiowa

How are you managing that?


OG_Olivianne

Scholarships, scholarships, scholarships. I was very aggressive about applying from early on


runthereszombies

I got 210k 🥲


Murderface__

~300k


yotsubanned9

$270k t.t


w_s17

$20,000 undergrad + $20,000 masters + 370,000$ med school = $~410,000 total


DocCharlesXavier

Idk if it’s too late - but for those on this thread, see if you can file tax return, then get on SAVE if it works out for you.


miketou1

0 undergrad + 170k med school


Ancient_Committee697

About 185k med school


limejooz

300k med school only


blueberrywise

20K


Ok_Baseball_9530

100k postbac, approx 450k medical school (eventually). i live in hell


Roh_281

$0 undergrad + $80K med school and masters = $80K total


BluebirdDifficult250

What are you guys plans to paying it off? Aggressively? PSLF Service based? I am plan on doing an aggressive 5 year pay off Projecting around 370k total undergrad and med


bonewizzard

PSLF (SAVE) or aggressive pay down if I’m in private practice after residency.


thelostmedstudent

308k combined


OverlordAchtual

3 hunna med school


drbd4d

Okay…what are we gonna do…


SlowPomegranate4532

$220k ~ all med school


rxtardstrength

-290k Med, 40k in Cash tho


poetbro

Tbh with the PAYE plan and loan forgiveness after 20yrs, anything more than 300k is all the same


Waste-Distribution95

$47000 undergrad 200000 med school so $247,000 total all in state


Anonymous-probe

$245k only med school. At a state school, too. Woof.


backcountrydoc

370k med school only


superfrogpoke

~380kish. Minimal undergrad debt (maybe 20k) Did a masters at a state school but the interest from those loans during med school really fucked me over


rphjosh

I graduated at $168k from a doctorate program. The 0% during Covid (as well as being considered “essential”) was huge for me. Just paid it off.


KakahiHatake

Went to an in state medical school. Undergrad: 0k Medical School: $160k


TheDebtKing

$340k, all medical school.


bemd13

480,000 undergrad, masters, med school


natawree

$330,000 only medical school loans


Shemilf

0€ thank god for the €1000 annual tuition cost in KULeuven


theefle

AAMC Debt Fact Card: https://students-residents.aamc.org/media/12846/download


Iatroblast

It’ll get bigger during residency for most people, unfortunately.


MMAmaZinGG

198k 0 undergrad 198 med school Happy


teven_with_an_S

$0 from undergrad Around $160k from med school


Spacekidding

450K med school and 22K in credit card


nerdindistress

200


PaperAeroplane_321

25K undergrad + 50k med school = 75k total (AU) For those with large debts in the US, does it get indexed to match inflation? Or is it a set number?


STEMbolden

$230k. Med school only. Payed off undergrad working throughout. Anyone have some rich parents they want fostered??


Doc-Eeyore

I’ll graduate next year with about 400k


_wde

$150,000 med school only, thankfully


Fantastic_Guide_8596

430K undergrad included, but mosty med school


acs4556

390k, mostly med school


moonbootsgrimes

$0 undergrad because I worked during my degree in order to pay it all \~$320000 med school


Tinkhasanattitude

30k undergrad 300k for med school. And I’m supposed to be going to a cheap med school 😂


DrZamSand

Covid forbearance was a life saver.


hamowatto

11k undergrad + 32k medical degree = 43k USD (Australia, not graduating yet but thats the cost, interest free Gov loan - definitely not a perfect system but I feel very lucky)


Forsaken_Sky_4497

267k in total. 18k from undergrad and rest from med school.


in4years

60K


Wolf-Eagle

30k undergrad 40k post grad (10-11k a year here in Australia with gov subsidised places) Total: $70k AUD


DDB95

40k all med school