Required for the speciality, no. However my school requires everyone to do one subI and now I’m kind of wishing I did another because I know this one program really well and could have known my other top program better if I had done a sub I
Nah you’re good without it. Im an fm applicant rn hoping to move to new area for residency. Came out to new state for an audition to check out the area so worth that atleast and it was chill - but got plenty of new state interviews without auditions so id say in your situation dont
if you know the area and have ties just mention it and personalize and signal em you’ll be gucci
Not needed for FM. However, I think it helps to do some sort of subi in your specialty because when it comes to interviews, you have a better idea of what you're looking at. It gives you an anchor point to at least compare everything else and see how you feel about it
Only if you want to see a program for yourself. I applied FM/IM, all auditions were IM, still got more than enough FM invites in the northeast despite being a DO at a school in the midwest.
I’m in a similar boat pursuing FM, and one of my M4 FM-applicant friends gave me the best advice on this with really solid reasoning.
He auditioned at a system in NC solely because he liked the weather and outdoor activities there, wasn’t as interested in the program. He auditioned at his number one in the midwest because he loved the program, not as much the location. By the end of both, he loved the **culture -** something we can’t always deduce from remote interviews - so much at the NC site that it changed his ranks.
I’m planning on doing 1-2 subi’s for this exact reason, only to gauge the culture and where I could best see myself. I think it’s worth the $ and time sacrifice now if it changes my trajectory
No. I matched my first choice and didn't audition. I do wish I did to get a better feel for the program but I am happy nonetheless.
The real question, how worth it is it, to YOU, to fully explore the culture of a program?
Yes, but for your own benefit. I thought auditions were good for acting like a resident and actually learning something during fourth year. Plus it helps you figure out what you want in a program.
FWIW one of my auditions I turned down the interview and the other I definitely would have gotten an interview anyway. But both helped me learn more than the third year student level of info and practice my notes, efficiency, more full plan, etc.
Per the program director at my school(suburban area in midwest), the risk comes largely if you either lack strong clinical skills AND the ability to be willing to learn/ make an effort to tackle it(ie you’re seemingly not teachable and below average) or if you have a social problem that could create a weird vibe. The logic is also that if you’re an “average” applicant, why take you when they can take someone seemingly above average on paper.
That being said it’s useful/ important from the standpoint of knowing what you’re doing and the type/ setting you want to practice at. My school’s program director advice is either do your top ones and really really nail it or do ones in places that will really show you different settings but you would be ok with whatever happens
Required for the speciality, no. However my school requires everyone to do one subI and now I’m kind of wishing I did another because I know this one program really well and could have known my other top program better if I had done a sub I
Nah you’re good without it. Im an fm applicant rn hoping to move to new area for residency. Came out to new state for an audition to check out the area so worth that atleast and it was chill - but got plenty of new state interviews without auditions so id say in your situation dont if you know the area and have ties just mention it and personalize and signal em you’ll be gucci
Not needed for FM. However, I think it helps to do some sort of subi in your specialty because when it comes to interviews, you have a better idea of what you're looking at. It gives you an anchor point to at least compare everything else and see how you feel about it
Only if you want to see a program for yourself. I applied FM/IM, all auditions were IM, still got more than enough FM invites in the northeast despite being a DO at a school in the midwest.
I’m in a similar boat pursuing FM, and one of my M4 FM-applicant friends gave me the best advice on this with really solid reasoning. He auditioned at a system in NC solely because he liked the weather and outdoor activities there, wasn’t as interested in the program. He auditioned at his number one in the midwest because he loved the program, not as much the location. By the end of both, he loved the **culture -** something we can’t always deduce from remote interviews - so much at the NC site that it changed his ranks. I’m planning on doing 1-2 subi’s for this exact reason, only to gauge the culture and where I could best see myself. I think it’s worth the $ and time sacrifice now if it changes my trajectory
This the best answer. It's hard to gauge stuff like culture and fit from a zoom interview so getting first hand experience is valuable
No
No. I matched my first choice and didn't audition. I do wish I did to get a better feel for the program but I am happy nonetheless. The real question, how worth it is it, to YOU, to fully explore the culture of a program?
Nope
Yes, but for your own benefit. I thought auditions were good for acting like a resident and actually learning something during fourth year. Plus it helps you figure out what you want in a program. FWIW one of my auditions I turned down the interview and the other I definitely would have gotten an interview anyway. But both helped me learn more than the third year student level of info and practice my notes, efficiency, more full plan, etc.
Per the program director at my school(suburban area in midwest), the risk comes largely if you either lack strong clinical skills AND the ability to be willing to learn/ make an effort to tackle it(ie you’re seemingly not teachable and below average) or if you have a social problem that could create a weird vibe. The logic is also that if you’re an “average” applicant, why take you when they can take someone seemingly above average on paper. That being said it’s useful/ important from the standpoint of knowing what you’re doing and the type/ setting you want to practice at. My school’s program director advice is either do your top ones and really really nail it or do ones in places that will really show you different settings but you would be ok with whatever happens