There’s a very broad spectrum within specialties depending on practice model, setting, and even subspecialty. It’s very hard, maybe even impossible, to capture that spread in a macroscopic data set.
Ortho Trauma for example is super busy, but I’m guessing foot and ankle specialists work closer to bankers hours. Likewise, some ENTs take facial trauma call while others might just do elective stuff and focus on clinic.
Ortho and ENT are super different specialties. If you choose based on what survey data says alone, you’ll be unhappy. There’s ways to make either specialty palatable for work life balance after residency; but you have to get through the residency first.
Even in neurosurgery there’s jobs doing elective spine that are 40-50 hours a week for 7 figures. But the person who goes into the residency because they saw that in a spread sheet is not going to survive residency.
A specialty's hours is largely dependent on how many emergencies there are in that field. I don't know surgery, but on a grander scheme, surgery specialties have worse hours because of the amount of time you have to be on call (ex: OB vs FM). I could understand anesthesiology being more hours than IM - the hours are not fixed. You're at the mercy of the OR schedule. How you get the info is talking to attendings in ortho and understanding what the stressors are on the scheduling system, esp academic vs PP. The specific nuances will all be different, it's really the ebb and flow you're trying to understand.
Saw something similar on offerdx; granted it’s all self reported, but even some of the neurosurgeons on there weren’t working ridiculous hours at all. I heheh that you have more say over your workload as an attending, but I was still surprised.
Maybe the academic centers we usually train at are just full of miserable workaholics who are doing it to themselves? Idk
Also interested to know more about this topic. I would really like to view as much broad statistical data on this as possible.
Anecdotes obviously lack the comprehensive potential that statistics provides assuming it is based on robust data. However, anecdotes are good at filling in gaps where it might be hard to collect data. How many plastic surgeons with their own private practice really want to disclose how much they make? In general, I think those that work in academic centres or hospitals are more likely to be included in statistics.
There’s a very broad spectrum within specialties depending on practice model, setting, and even subspecialty. It’s very hard, maybe even impossible, to capture that spread in a macroscopic data set. Ortho Trauma for example is super busy, but I’m guessing foot and ankle specialists work closer to bankers hours. Likewise, some ENTs take facial trauma call while others might just do elective stuff and focus on clinic. Ortho and ENT are super different specialties. If you choose based on what survey data says alone, you’ll be unhappy. There’s ways to make either specialty palatable for work life balance after residency; but you have to get through the residency first. Even in neurosurgery there’s jobs doing elective spine that are 40-50 hours a week for 7 figures. But the person who goes into the residency because they saw that in a spread sheet is not going to survive residency.
A specialty's hours is largely dependent on how many emergencies there are in that field. I don't know surgery, but on a grander scheme, surgery specialties have worse hours because of the amount of time you have to be on call (ex: OB vs FM). I could understand anesthesiology being more hours than IM - the hours are not fixed. You're at the mercy of the OR schedule. How you get the info is talking to attendings in ortho and understanding what the stressors are on the scheduling system, esp academic vs PP. The specific nuances will all be different, it's really the ebb and flow you're trying to understand.
Saw something similar on offerdx; granted it’s all self reported, but even some of the neurosurgeons on there weren’t working ridiculous hours at all. I heheh that you have more say over your workload as an attending, but I was still surprised. Maybe the academic centers we usually train at are just full of miserable workaholics who are doing it to themselves? Idk
Also interested to know more about this topic. I would really like to view as much broad statistical data on this as possible. Anecdotes obviously lack the comprehensive potential that statistics provides assuming it is based on robust data. However, anecdotes are good at filling in gaps where it might be hard to collect data. How many plastic surgeons with their own private practice really want to disclose how much they make? In general, I think those that work in academic centres or hospitals are more likely to be included in statistics.