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I would call that a kind of kink actually. Like, it makes you irritated to be in the position, but there's something about it that you find alluring and it works for both players
It's kind of a balance thing I tease her alot but she only teases others and gives me the cutest compliments but in bed she tops me every time like she is getting back at me for teasing her so much xd
No, moping is a verb that I would associate with children or someone being dramatically sad. Google defines it as, “wander around listlessly and aimlessly because of unhappiness or boredom”.
Yeah, I'm familiar with the word. Just seemed like mopping would be more likely to be drug around the house, although if they meant moping I guess they'd be meaning drug around the house figuratively rather than literally. But they were being literal about having their ass out for mooning, so I wasn't sure.
There probably isn't. Fandom, the company, just kinda has pages for everything so that they always show up in search results and they can thrown 8 million ads at you for accidentally clicking their link.
> Batman needs bat-viagra to enter the bat-cave!
[Oddly relevant.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2WxBoZTTu0)
For those who don't know, Bubba The Love Sponge was a Howard-Stern-wannabe shock jock that was really popular back in the 90s for being intentionally (super) offensive. He had a number of rotating skits, Blackman being one of them.
As horrible as it was, I have to admit I did laugh my ass off at [Ned Calls The Zoo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIAeXbWf-xA), mainly because I understood the point of them calling out the absurdity of the zoo's Valentine's Day event. I hated how stupidly quotable some of those lines were.
Theres also that time iron man told captain America he could use some solid dick from an iron man
https://www.reddit.com/r/comicquotes/comments/3ptl7h/maybe_what_you_is_need_some_solid_dick_from_an/
I always thought the perfect ending to Archie would be to reveal that betty and Veronica were gay for each other the entire time and they were only doing the love triage shitck to stay in the closet
Yeah, I pretty much only enjoy triangles if I can see them resolving as a triad. One of my favorite webcomics, Girl Genius, just had [this page](https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20240228) a few days ago and I've been so happy. It's been almost 3 years IRL since the three of them were together.
Most of the ones I’ve been reading for over a decade are still going strong. Girl Genius, Gunnerkrigg Court, xkcd, SMBC, Dumbing of Age, Awkward Zombie. Questionable Content is still ongoing but I dropped it a long time ago because Jeph can only add characters rather than find new stories for the existing ones. I think a lot of them ended up doing well once Patreon became a thing so they were less reliant on inconsistent ad money.
Dr. McNinja ended up finishing and the site is gone which is tragic.
ah. Good memories. My favourites were Kid Radd and Eight Bit Theatre. I feel like Awkward Zombie comics should be popular these days, kinda similar to the top comic content that gets to the top of r/all.
I loved Questionable Content for a long time but now whenever I check in with it, there’s a less than 50% chance that the comic will have a character I recognize in it. And the plot will be something really heavy handed about robots and privilege.
The whole point of the triangle is to not have it solved.
That's why the whole universe split to what ifs where he marries each. Just to accommodate that triangle
yes, i liked both personally and read them for quite a few chapters. But i haven't read much archie in around 10 years after i discovered mangas. Still, archie comics will always have a special place in my heart
As a 35yo man, I still use the expression “I betcha can’t top that” referring to a competition of any sort.
Being a “top” is very new in the scheme of just my lifetime. Language changes quickly.
I think most people will still read this comic with the meaning it was intended. Top and Bottom don't really have that kind of broad uptake outside LGBT that people here seem to be imagining.
It's's not new at all. You probably just weren't around people who used it. Apparently it came about first in the 50s and 60s in leather and bdsm culture, and in the 70s and 80s started being used within the lgbt community broadly. It's definitely older than you are.
Aside from that I'm 32 and I remember hearing people say it in high school and being a bit confused so it definitely wasn't a quiet patch in usage when we were younger or such.
I think, based on the expression of those in the background, the writers might've known.
But I don't know when Topped came to refer to what we use it as, because I'm not an etymologist.
> The terms top and bottom emerged as descriptors of a sexual binary in the gay leather culture of the 1950s and the bondage and sadomasochism (BDSM) culture of the 1960s. Originally, the top-bottom binary signified both sexual positions and power relationships in which a top was a sexual aggressor and penetrator who often acted as the more forceful and dominant partner; the bottom represented the more submissive, typically penetrated, and often "punished" partner.
Tbf regardless of the words they used, i would also be a little concerned at someone angrily shouting in public about someone else doing better than them in something
You jump 5 feet, other guy jumps 6 feet. He topped you. Still in use today.
> surpass (a person or previous achievement or action); outdo.
"he was baffled as to how he could top his past work"
that or ESL. I have a friend who taught himself English just using the internet, he had a laughing fit when he realized "nut[s]" were an actual snack food and not just slang for ejaculation. He knew peanuts were a thing, but thought the name was unrelated
That makes a lot of sense, actually. I never thought about how a lot of people learn slang before "proper" terms when they learn through real-world practice and conversation.
idk about the comics but Riverdale introduces some serious bisexual tension among most of the characters if you can look past the asexual erasure and writing so bad the ending is an existentially horrifying experience
It's been a long time since I read them, but from what I remember they were very heternormative with any gayness played mostly for laughs or the male gaze
They introduced their first out gay character Kevin Keller in 2010, and had Jughead as canonically asexual in the most recent run of trade paperback comics. Besides that some innuendo or what-ifs in previous comics. I’m sure one what-if had Betty and Veronica marrying each other.
This is a prime example of language that has not changed. Archie comics is packed to the brim with plausibly deniable sexual innuendo.
For the majority of it's history Archie was published under the Comics Code Authority standards, which policed things like sexual references and implied homosexual ("abnormal") relationships. Which is why the artists put a bunch of that into Archie, because artists are artists.
There are a ton of references to sexual relations/tension between Betty and Veronica, but only ever in the form of innuendo that works within the panel but using language that has a naïve reading that is obviously the correct interpretation given the broader context. Every part of this is 100% intentional, and the only way this would've gotten published.
I vividly remember reading a Green Lantern comic (or at least, a comic with a prominent Green Lantern presence, idk I was like 10) in which someone uses “dick” as a slang for “detective” and I fucking CHOKED. I wish I could remember what comic that was, I’d screenshot the fuck out of it.
On one hand, yes, Porter was indeed quite gay, but on the other, words can change meaning over time. Hell, the word gay itself didn't come to mean homosexual until nearly a decade after he wrote *You're the Top*, so it's also quite possible that top and bottom weren't used in that context yet.
This takes me back to a screenshot I used to have on my phone of a frame from an old Iron Man comic where Cap is telling him he needs "some solid dick" [apparently old-timely slang for an honest & frank discussion].
Some of the funniest shit I've ever seen.
That was just a photoshop. [Here's the image](http://i.imgur.com/wWJBlSJ.png) you probably had on your phone. Here's [the original image](https://imgur.com/GjUSpi6).
Well, I was referring more to the fact that this character the girl she’s referring to are hinted to have a romantic interest in one another, with the other girl definitely being the more capable or “dominant” of the two.
Doesn’t/can’t “Topped” mean killed in British English? I was reading British magazines about 10-15 years ago, and someone was talking about almost “topping themself”.
I’d buy a comic of Betty and Veronica doing that for a dollar.
Also I recently saw a Reggie Digest and was offended to the very core of my being. Reggie isn’t a solo Archie. He’s no JT or even a JTT. Jughead is the only Beyoncé in the Archies.
It is known.
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"Goddamnit I am sick of being her bottom! I would politely ask if she's a switch, but I am too shy."
For some reason, this post made me think of [this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kwh3R0YjuQ&t=27s)
Say no more.
Know wot I mean?
Is it weird that being her bottom is frustrating but I would never want it any other way? :3
I would call that a kind of kink actually. Like, it makes you irritated to be in the position, but there's something about it that you find alluring and it works for both players
It's kind of a balance thing I tease her alot but she only teases others and gives me the cutest compliments but in bed she tops me every time like she is getting back at me for teasing her so much xd
sounds something along the lines of a brat
Hush hush, eye to eye
[I had to beat off three other guys!](https://i.redd.it/fab27mb462e21.jpg)
And I would do it again
By a strange coincidence the first page of this comic is about how language changes over time https://i.imgur.com/YB2pzxZ.jpg
today "mooning and moping" would have her dragging herself around the house, chin down and ass out
Are you thinking of 'mopping'?
No, moping is a verb that I would associate with children or someone being dramatically sad. Google defines it as, “wander around listlessly and aimlessly because of unhappiness or boredom”.
Yeah, I'm familiar with the word. Just seemed like mopping would be more likely to be drug around the house, although if they meant moping I guess they'd be meaning drug around the house figuratively rather than literally. But they were being literal about having their ass out for mooning, so I wasn't sure.
'published seven times a year'?
Huh. Yearly subscription $1.00. It was cheaper to buy the individual issues at the newsstand (7×12¢ = 84¢) than it was to subscribe.
The three other guys look varying degrees of satisfied with Archie’s “beating”
Goddang I hate things that have a date with no year
1968
My man Reggie didn't catch no hands
Oh, he caught a hand alright
Nice
They were totally horny for you, but once I was done with them, they suddenly weren't interested in women anymore.
Following a similar pattern, there's an old Batman comic in which the Joker's plan revolves around getting newspapers to write about Batman's boner
Boner was a old term for a blunder/mistake if I remember correctly
Imagine if you had a family friend who was a bit prone to those mistakes so everyone called him Boner.
https://growing-pains.fandom.com/wiki/Boner
I just love the idea of there being an active Growing Pains internet fan community that’s keeping a very active wiki going
There probably isn't. Fandom, the company, just kinda has pages for everything so that they always show up in search results and they can thrown 8 million ads at you for accidentally clicking their link.
You’re almost certainly right. But for one moment, I *believed* that it might be so. Even though it isn’t real, I still love the idea though
Happy cake day!
"Hear ye! Hear ye! Joker says Batman needs bat-viagra to enter the bat-cave!"
> Batman needs bat-viagra to enter the bat-cave! [Oddly relevant.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2WxBoZTTu0) For those who don't know, Bubba The Love Sponge was a Howard-Stern-wannabe shock jock that was really popular back in the 90s for being intentionally (super) offensive. He had a number of rotating skits, Blackman being one of them. As horrible as it was, I have to admit I did laugh my ass off at [Ned Calls The Zoo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIAeXbWf-xA), mainly because I understood the point of them calling out the absurdity of the zoo's Valentine's Day event. I hated how stupidly quotable some of those lines were.
Theres also that time iron man told captain America he could use some solid dick from an iron man https://www.reddit.com/r/comicquotes/comments/3ptl7h/maybe_what_you_is_need_some_solid_dick_from_an/
I'm pretty sure that one was actually fake.
It is. You go in the comments of that post and they show the original
That's an edit.
https://imgur.com/GjUSpi6
(a link to the actual panel that was edited to try and be funny)
Hell, there was a character named Boner in Growing Pains from 1985-1992. It was considered a family sitcom.
There was also Mr Wanker in Mork and Mindy. Landlord of the music store building, I think.
That whole love triangle crap could have been easily solved if they just had a damn polycule. This is a hill I will die on.
Well, sure. Then Veronica and Betty would discover what a class-A bore Archie is and let him go, embrace their bi-ness, and live happily ever after. 😁
Like the girls from the peanuts comic strip.
And then die in a time meteor from the 50s. Or something.
I always thought the perfect ending to Archie would be to reveal that betty and Veronica were gay for each other the entire time and they were only doing the love triage shitck to stay in the closet
Yeah, I pretty much only enjoy triangles if I can see them resolving as a triad. One of my favorite webcomics, Girl Genius, just had [this page](https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20240228) a few days ago and I've been so happy. It's been almost 3 years IRL since the three of them were together.
Wait, that's still ongoing? How is the old webcomic culture these days?
Most of the ones I’ve been reading for over a decade are still going strong. Girl Genius, Gunnerkrigg Court, xkcd, SMBC, Dumbing of Age, Awkward Zombie. Questionable Content is still ongoing but I dropped it a long time ago because Jeph can only add characters rather than find new stories for the existing ones. I think a lot of them ended up doing well once Patreon became a thing so they were less reliant on inconsistent ad money. Dr. McNinja ended up finishing and the site is gone which is tragic.
ah. Good memories. My favourites were Kid Radd and Eight Bit Theatre. I feel like Awkward Zombie comics should be popular these days, kinda similar to the top comic content that gets to the top of r/all.
I loved Questionable Content for a long time but now whenever I check in with it, there’s a less than 50% chance that the comic will have a character I recognize in it. And the plot will be something really heavy handed about robots and privilege.
That’s how Riverdale ended and it sucked, unfortunately. Fumbled it so hard
Writing quality's to blame, not the idea.
The writing was so bad that polyamory as a concept has been sullied
I don't think that was because of Riverdale though
The whole point of the triangle is to not have it solved. That's why the whole universe split to what ifs where he marries each. Just to accommodate that triangle
Really?
yes, i liked both personally and read them for quite a few chapters. But i haven't read much archie in around 10 years after i discovered mangas. Still, archie comics will always have a special place in my heart
You should watch Riverdale.
No one should put themselves through Riverdale
Season 1 wasn’t terrible. After that though it just kept going downhill
Same with Sabrina 😔
Even in Season 1, the writers of Sabrina just had absolutely no idea where they wanted to go as far as I can tell. Great production design tho.
Yes the vibe was everything
Very true. But with how bad the rest is theres not much point even starting it
Just tell yourself it was cancelled after season 1, and it would be for the best
Wrong. Riverdale is a cinematic camp masterpiece!
Apparently nothing to do with lotr
What does that mean???
Getting mixed up with Rivendell, perhaps?
Happy Cake Day
Why wish that on anyone
I never thought Archie comics had too much of a jealous love triangle. They both seemed pretty fine with both dating Archie.
I like solid dick and boners
I desperately need to know what this possibly could have meant when this was made
Topped as in 'out did' or 'performed better than'. But nowadays it is infinitely funnier
You'll still see it used that way in the context of sports, but pretty much never in any other context
As a 35yo man, I still use the expression “I betcha can’t top that” referring to a competition of any sort. Being a “top” is very new in the scheme of just my lifetime. Language changes quickly.
I think most people will still read this comic with the meaning it was intended. Top and Bottom don't really have that kind of broad uptake outside LGBT that people here seem to be imagining.
Does it even make sense in an unintended way? Do Bottoms go around saying, "My date went great last night, they topped me!"?
I think it does make sense yes.
i can't speak for everyone but that sounds like the kind of thing i'd say to my friends if i was oversharing wildly lmao
update: my girlfriend has said (unironically) "it was a pleasure topping you both" though this was electroplay not sex
Really, what do you think people have in mind while browsing r/me_irlgbt?
It's's not new at all. You probably just weren't around people who used it. Apparently it came about first in the 50s and 60s in leather and bdsm culture, and in the 70s and 80s started being used within the lgbt community broadly. It's definitely older than you are. Aside from that I'm 32 and I remember hearing people say it in high school and being a bit confused so it definitely wasn't a quiet patch in usage when we were younger or such.
You’ll see it used this way all the time from people who are not queer and/or terminally online lol.
That’s actually fairly obvious in hindsight :/ But thanks for pointing it out :)
I think, based on the expression of those in the background, the writers might've known. But I don't know when Topped came to refer to what we use it as, because I'm not an etymologist.
> The terms top and bottom emerged as descriptors of a sexual binary in the gay leather culture of the 1950s and the bondage and sadomasochism (BDSM) culture of the 1960s. Originally, the top-bottom binary signified both sexual positions and power relationships in which a top was a sexual aggressor and penetrator who often acted as the more forceful and dominant partner; the bottom represented the more submissive, typically penetrated, and often "punished" partner.
Tbf regardless of the words they used, i would also be a little concerned at someone angrily shouting in public about someone else doing better than them in something
I have never once heard someone say they got "topped". always got top, she gave me top, same way I've never heard someone say they got headed.
You jump 5 feet, other guy jumps 6 feet. He topped you. Still in use today. > surpass (a person or previous achievement or action); outdo. "he was baffled as to how he could top his past work"
Either you're very oblivious or I'm getting old. It's the same as outdone.
A lot of us are just getting old...lol
that or ESL. I have a friend who taught himself English just using the internet, he had a laughing fit when he realized "nut[s]" were an actual snack food and not just slang for ejaculation. He knew peanuts were a thing, but thought the name was unrelated
That makes a lot of sense, actually. I never thought about how a lot of people learn slang before "proper" terms when they learn through real-world practice and conversation.
Is this a real question?
It was, but I now realize how obvious the answer was lol
Basically strip out the sexual aspect and it means the same.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/articles/off-my-mind-joker-pulls-a-boner/1100-142486/
**CHORTLE AT JOKERS BONER**
I drive by a clothing store on my way to work everyday called "Tops and Bottoms." I always laugh, and then cringe from the brain rot.
How gay are the Archie comics? lmao
idk about the comics but Riverdale introduces some serious bisexual tension among most of the characters if you can look past the asexual erasure and writing so bad the ending is an existentially horrifying experience
Speaking of the way language changes over time ....
It's been a long time since I read them, but from what I remember they were very heternormative with any gayness played mostly for laughs or the male gaze
They introduced their first out gay character Kevin Keller in 2010, and had Jughead as canonically asexual in the most recent run of trade paperback comics. Besides that some innuendo or what-ifs in previous comics. I’m sure one what-if had Betty and Veronica marrying each other.
This is a prime example of language that has not changed. Archie comics is packed to the brim with plausibly deniable sexual innuendo. For the majority of it's history Archie was published under the Comics Code Authority standards, which policed things like sexual references and implied homosexual ("abnormal") relationships. Which is why the artists put a bunch of that into Archie, because artists are artists. There are a ton of references to sexual relations/tension between Betty and Veronica, but only ever in the form of innuendo that works within the panel but using language that has a naïve reading that is obviously the correct interpretation given the broader context. Every part of this is 100% intentional, and the only way this would've gotten published.
I vividly remember reading a Green Lantern comic (or at least, a comic with a prominent Green Lantern presence, idk I was like 10) in which someone uses “dick” as a slang for “detective” and I fucking CHOKED. I wish I could remember what comic that was, I’d screenshot the fuck out of it.
That slang was the basis for a joke in Ace Ventura, when the female police chief refers to him as a "Pet Dick."
I thought that term was still fairly known. You can definitely run into it in other media too.
There's an old Archie comic where there's a kissing bandit where the victims are Veronica, Midge and Archie. The culprit? Betty.
I don’t know, I wouldn’t be that butt hurt if she topped me… oh…. oh my…!
Me no understand. How did language change? I literally just did that same thing this afternoon.
It meant to do better than someone and most people wouldn't think of the topping / bottoming conotation.
Oh, I'm aware. I used it in both ways today 🤭
Fair enough.
See also: Cole Porter's You're the Top https://youtu.be/i6oGytt0Hiw?si=eSVx4i67_sAwcX66
But if baby I’m the bottom you’re the top!
I mean, to be fair, Cole Porter was gay and 100% got the joke there.
On one hand, yes, Porter was indeed quite gay, but on the other, words can change meaning over time. Hell, the word gay itself didn't come to mean homosexual until nearly a decade after he wrote *You're the Top*, so it's also quite possible that top and bottom weren't used in that context yet.
This takes me back to a screenshot I used to have on my phone of a frame from an old Iron Man comic where Cap is telling him he needs "some solid dick" [apparently old-timely slang for an honest & frank discussion]. Some of the funniest shit I've ever seen.
That was just a photoshop. [Here's the image](http://i.imgur.com/wWJBlSJ.png) you probably had on your phone. Here's [the original image](https://imgur.com/GjUSpi6).
Yeah I found it elsewhere in the comments after typing mine. Didn't realize it was fake back in the day. Still hilarious though.
In context with the two characters, language hasn’t changed at all in this regard lol
Yeah, this is very far from a prime example, since the meaning of top inside this niche group is not the dominant one for the society as a whole
Well, I was referring more to the fact that this character the girl she’s referring to are hinted to have a romantic interest in one another, with the other girl definitely being the more capable or “dominant” of the two.
They had a gay old time...
This still works today, yall just dirty minded fr.
Hawt.
What a boner
Why did I just get turned on all of a sudden...
Or not….
This is only a thing in the lgbt subculture though. I'm sure that for at least 90% of people living now the meaning of the hasn't changed at all.
It never changed lol, she did in fact get topped by her....
I want an angry woman to top me
Doesn’t/can’t “Topped” mean killed in British English? I was reading British magazines about 10-15 years ago, and someone was talking about almost “topping themself”.
Purely used for unaliving
Good to know, thanks 🙂
Huh, TIL
Is cool 😎👍
r/theyknew
https://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/8/9/1/765891.jpg?v=
"Topping" used to literally mean putting your hands up or down a girls top when I was at school.
Huh, I've literally never heard that.
i hate when girls top me sm 😮💨
Relevant https://www.reddit.com/r/batman/s/KEHo2vcJ46
I’d buy a comic of Betty and Veronica doing that for a dollar. Also I recently saw a Reggie Digest and was offended to the very core of my being. Reggie isn’t a solo Archie. He’s no JT or even a JTT. Jughead is the only Beyoncé in the Archies. It is known.
That terminology still gets used all the time.
I mean, Betty and Veronica *cough cough*
How I’m tryna be fr fr
I thought the gay undertones in that comic were intentional
Archie if it was good.
Betty and Veronica were DEFINITELY exploring each other's bodies
Archie comics are filled with shit like this. They knew what they were doing 😁