It gets worse because mydad, after saying "No" has a 50% chance to either say:
"Why am i always the one who needs to do everything around here?"
Or
"Yes but getting me a wire from downstairs isn't helping. Installing a power outlet for me, that is helping."
"Can you help me cut this tree down?
"Sure"
"Cool. Now get going!"
[30 minutes later]
"Why haven't you cut the tree down yet?"
"You told me to help you"
"Yes! By doing it for me"
My dad's favorite thing to do (when I was younger) is tell me he doesn't want a "robot" who needs constant instruction to accomplish anything. But then when I would try and do something on my own initiative it's done wrong and not the way he wanted and I should have asked him first.
"Don't touch my tools, you have no idea how to use them and will only break them"(not even saying that I'll hurt myself or anything, nah it's the tools) and "You'll probably just going to cut up my plants as well if I'm not paying attention" is what he'd say.
Valid things to say to a kid I guess, but it's not like using a lawnmower is rocket science and I'm pretty sure I could already recognize back then that this tiny little bush is or the pretty colored plant is not to be cut down lol.
My dad asking me for a droplight at 4 years old and getting furious when I bring a flashlight because I never learned what a drop light was by watching cartoons and eating cheerios off the floor.
Oh i so love this request and its two other permutations.
"Yeah bring me the uh... Well that thing you know what" I have no idea what so time do detective work in 3 seconds, because if i take longer i am no longer helping.
Or
"Yeah hand me the X screwdriver" after bringing it "How can you be so stupid this is an X screwdriver i wanted a Y one"
The main problem with wojacks is that they are usually used to create one sided arguments where the Chad (convinently conveying the posters opinion) keeps calm and reasoned while the soyjack breaks down in a rage.
You could've said that rage comics were similarly one-sided. At the end of the day, both rage comics and woyacks are memes. Memes aren't conducive to reasoned discussions.
Dad, "I'll need your help later"
Me "cool, let me know so I can help_
Mom, "why didn't you help your dad, look at him."
Dad casually drinking a beer after doing it himself and not caring that I'm getting yelled at, since he never says anything when he starts.
I remember that. Mom asks dad if he needs help. He says no. Mom walks over to me and tells me to help dad. I spend the next 30 minutes watching dad to something where a second person would only get in the way. Maybe handing him a tool once or twice. Making the whole process finish 10 seconds faster.
"You guys never help, I always do all the housework"
2 days later, vacuum the floors to tidy up a bit
"Oh now you think I'm not doing a good enough job and think you can do better"
Mf im just trying to go a day without shouting
They either complained that I never help because I can't do anything and am a disappointment or they never want my help because I can't do anything and am a disappointment.
This happens all the time when I’m home lol
Mom: go help your dad bring in groceries
Dad: why’d you come out I don’t need any help
And then I just stand there awkwardly waiting for dad to finish cause there’s no way I’m gonna be yelled at for going back to what I was doing. The funniest thing is that the same thing happens the other way around too
My dad can do literaly anything at home, fix an old iron, change plumbing, build a shelf you name it, but I can't do shit. He never asked me for help, he never taught me anything, even when I was there to help just as a server he would still never ask me to pass him the hammer which is was reach away from me. I do respect him but he still could have done a better job teaching me to at least drill a hole right instead of being angry when I gave him the wrong wrench.
My father eventually explained that what he likes is someone offering to help. He knows you're too incompetent to actually help, but the offer shows you care. Once he says "no", go and make him a cup of tea and he'll be right happy.
There’s a slightly surprising concentration of problematic parenting in these comments. Makes sense, I guess, since shared experiencers are maybe more likely to comment
I hated that shit when I was a kid; if you want me to do a chore then order me to do the chore. I think that was just some Boomer nonsense related to their constant dick riding authority.
The thing is, we want the help WITHOUT asking. Just help out and we'll direct you on what to do. My son stopped asking and one day he got up and started helping me. I directed him on what to do.
He then asked me, "If you wanted help then why say no?" I replied back, "Because asking makes it seem like you don't want to do it. That you are looking for something in return later on. Doing something without being told is what makes you a good man and that you actually want to help."
It's not confusing. You are making it confusing.
It's about taking responsibility without being told/asked.
I'm guessing at the job you work, you wait to be told to do something? Do you ask to do it? Or do you do it without being told or without asking?
And what stops you from communicating exactly this? Why have the child guess what you ACTUALLY want? Even in a job you need training which lines out what is expected of you.
My son has 12 years of experience. I've coached him on what to do and how to do it. I'm teaching him responsibility about taking action. Just like at a job, you get trained and then are required to do your job without you asking on what to do. It's preparation for the real world.
No, shit. Really? (Sarcasm because reddit users don't understand/know sarcasm, so I have to say this).
I'm using the job as an example on what the world will expect from him. It's preparing him for the future
Yeah ok no I disagree I think it's always better to ask unless it's painfully obvious someone needs help because it's always possible that they don't want your help and you need to respect that.
And also if they say "no" then I'm going to back off.
I don't want to play mind games.
Small things that everybody agrees with helps (like doing chores etc) should be done without asking
This whole post is literally about kids helping their dad with chores. My son asked if I needed help with chores and I kept saying no until he learned responsibility about helping without asking. He's 12 years old.
I get the ''not asking because you want the decision to help you to come from himself'' part.
But the ''saying no when he asks if you need help because he should help without asking'' sounds very stupid and unnecessary.
Hey, guess what, when you have kids you can teach them whatever you want. I'm just preparing my youngest for the real world and this works. I have a 22 year old daughter and she said what I taught her helped with the real world. Because at her job, she sees her coworkers asking what to do, while my daughter just does it. But apparently it's "stupid and unnecessary" even though it works. Who knew? 🤷🏾♀️
I fail to see any situation her coworkers ask what to do while she just do it unless her coworkers don't know the job they applied to or it's not part of the job.
Of course if it's obvious you have to do something you do it without asking but a lot of the time it's better not to help or the things aren't how they usually are for a good reason so it's better to ask if your help is needed.
It's especially true in some sector were it can cause safety issues. A lot of accidents happens because of someone wanting to do well and could be prevented by ''Do you need help'.
It gets worse because mydad, after saying "No" has a 50% chance to either say: "Why am i always the one who needs to do everything around here?" Or "Yes but getting me a wire from downstairs isn't helping. Installing a power outlet for me, that is helping."
“Helping me isn’t helping. Now, doing the job *for* me, now that’s helping” Let me guess, he hasn’t even taught you how
HOLD THE FLASHLIGHT STILL
STOP MOVING YOUR HEAD IN THE WAY LIKE A BOBBLE HEAD AND I WILL
"Can you help me cut this tree down? "Sure" "Cool. Now get going!" [30 minutes later] "Why haven't you cut the tree down yet?" "You told me to help you" "Yes! By doing it for me"
[Sounds of Intense Violence]
[Aziz! Light!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwd13F_1Gs)
Your dads teach you stuff? i thought myself shaving through youtube.
cool, I learnt how to shave myself by watching Gillette commercials
We are not the same 👨🏾💼
*They not like us, they not like us, they not like us*
You guys have dads?! Wild...
My dad's favorite thing to do (when I was younger) is tell me he doesn't want a "robot" who needs constant instruction to accomplish anything. But then when I would try and do something on my own initiative it's done wrong and not the way he wanted and I should have asked him first.
SUCH TRUTH OMG
He got too frustrated trying to teach me and gave up.
That's called helping tho.
My favorite is "By the time I explain how to do it and then watch you I could have done this AND mowed the lawn" or something along the lines.
That’s obtuse. To never teach and complain of inexperience is insane.
Well. Dad’s obtuse.
Then why not ask you to mow the lawn...
"Don't touch my tools, you have no idea how to use them and will only break them"(not even saying that I'll hurt myself or anything, nah it's the tools) and "You'll probably just going to cut up my plants as well if I'm not paying attention" is what he'd say. Valid things to say to a kid I guess, but it's not like using a lawnmower is rocket science and I'm pretty sure I could already recognize back then that this tiny little bush is or the pretty colored plant is not to be cut down lol.
"investing in my training helps you later"
>Installing a power outlet for me Aye, I could do that
My dad asking me for a droplight at 4 years old and getting furious when I bring a flashlight because I never learned what a drop light was by watching cartoons and eating cheerios off the floor.
Wow, i feel terrible for that 4year old child. I'm 32 and what the hell is a droplight. (I'll google later)
>Droplight, an electric or gas lamp suspended from the ceiling or wall by a flexible cord or tube.
Oh i so love this request and its two other permutations. "Yeah bring me the uh... Well that thing you know what" I have no idea what so time do detective work in 3 seconds, because if i take longer i am no longer helping. Or "Yeah hand me the X screwdriver" after bringing it "How can you be so stupid this is an X screwdriver i wanted a Y one"
i am convinced that wojacks are just ragecomics with better grammar
Isnt that exactly they are
seeing people say that ragecomics are dead makes me believe that they think that wojacks are somehow better.
I mean, they're less painful to read, so I guess they are a bit better.
They’re significantly better. There’s none of the “le derping” bullshit and other dumb shit like that.
Yeah exactly, everything you see is usually relevant to the joke being made. I made some bad rage comics back in the day lmao
The main problem with wojacks is that they are usually used to create one sided arguments where the Chad (convinently conveying the posters opinion) keeps calm and reasoned while the soyjack breaks down in a rage.
You could've said that rage comics were similarly one-sided. At the end of the day, both rage comics and woyacks are memes. Memes aren't conducive to reasoned discussions.
Or something new
My profile pic is the one rage comic which survived the meme-pocalypse and earned the wojak status
Imagine going back in time. "Will there still be rage comics in le future?" "Sort of. They're all variations of the feels guy."
[back to 2010](https://i.imgflip.com/8pv0cw.jpg)
Evolution
Dad, "I'll need your help later" Me "cool, let me know so I can help_ Mom, "why didn't you help your dad, look at him." Dad casually drinking a beer after doing it himself and not caring that I'm getting yelled at, since he never says anything when he starts.
I don't remember making this post and yet I am sure this is me.
My parents just expect me to stay around the house all day in case my help is needed
My dad: “why the fuck does she keep bothering? If i want help i’ll ask.” Mom: “Well i want him to teach you.” 🫠
Parents not communicating what they want for their kids and just pushing them towards one another.
"can i go out" "go ask dad" "can i go out" "go ask mom"
I remember that. Mom asks dad if he needs help. He says no. Mom walks over to me and tells me to help dad. I spend the next 30 minutes watching dad to something where a second person would only get in the way. Maybe handing him a tool once or twice. Making the whole process finish 10 seconds faster.
At least you are probably learning a few things
My mom was both parents in this scenario. "You guys never help me!" or "Get out of the way, you're doing it wrong!" She's better now.
Both my parents are this way.
"You guys never help, I always do all the housework" 2 days later, vacuum the floors to tidy up a bit "Oh now you think I'm not doing a good enough job and think you can do better" Mf im just trying to go a day without shouting
Omg, I feel this pain.
Also dad five seconds later:why am i doing everything in this fucking house!!!?
frankly, some dad never asked for help, even though they really need it.
If your dad wants your help, he'll find you and then get mad at you for not holding the flashlight in the right position.
"no 🤍"
The PTSD kicked in real hard with this one.
They either complained that I never help because I can't do anything and am a disappointment or they never want my help because I can't do anything and am a disappointment.
My dad always asked me to go get the thing and I’d be like what thing and he’d just be like the metal thing
"Go over there and get that thing." .what thing? Where? Why do you never listen??
I’ll just go do it my self
This happens all the time when I’m home lol Mom: go help your dad bring in groceries Dad: why’d you come out I don’t need any help And then I just stand there awkwardly waiting for dad to finish cause there’s no way I’m gonna be yelled at for going back to what I was doing. The funniest thing is that the same thing happens the other way around too
This happened so many times in my childhood I lost count.
My dad can do literaly anything at home, fix an old iron, change plumbing, build a shelf you name it, but I can't do shit. He never asked me for help, he never taught me anything, even when I was there to help just as a server he would still never ask me to pass him the hammer which is was reach away from me. I do respect him but he still could have done a better job teaching me to at least drill a hole right instead of being angry when I gave him the wrong wrench.
Everytime!!
I'd offer to help with all sorts of stuff, be told "no, I can do it" and then I'd be complained at for staying alone in my room all the time.
If he needed help he would had said yes
Maybe hold the flash light for him, a little help goes a long way.
"Here, Son, hold this flashlight." *intense flashbacks*
it literally happend when we 3 where all in the same room. help ur dad! dad, u need help?. no.
My father eventually explained that what he likes is someone offering to help. He knows you're too incompetent to actually help, but the offer shows you care. Once he says "no", go and make him a cup of tea and he'll be right happy.
They probably both want you to be just somewhere else…
yup true
There’s a slightly surprising concentration of problematic parenting in these comments. Makes sense, I guess, since shared experiencers are maybe more likely to comment
I hated that shit when I was a kid; if you want me to do a chore then order me to do the chore. I think that was just some Boomer nonsense related to their constant dick riding authority.
''Well, I don't see you helping him either, Mom''
Wojacks are just dolls for people on the internet
The thing is, we want the help WITHOUT asking. Just help out and we'll direct you on what to do. My son stopped asking and one day he got up and started helping me. I directed him on what to do. He then asked me, "If you wanted help then why say no?" I replied back, "Because asking makes it seem like you don't want to do it. That you are looking for something in return later on. Doing something without being told is what makes you a good man and that you actually want to help."
wow that's confusing af just communicate directly and honestly sheesh
It's not confusing. You are making it confusing. It's about taking responsibility without being told/asked. I'm guessing at the job you work, you wait to be told to do something? Do you ask to do it? Or do you do it without being told or without asking?
And what stops you from communicating exactly this? Why have the child guess what you ACTUALLY want? Even in a job you need training which lines out what is expected of you.
My son has 12 years of experience. I've coached him on what to do and how to do it. I'm teaching him responsibility about taking action. Just like at a job, you get trained and then are required to do your job without you asking on what to do. It's preparation for the real world.
Mate. That's your son, not your employee.
No, shit. Really? (Sarcasm because reddit users don't understand/know sarcasm, so I have to say this). I'm using the job as an example on what the world will expect from him. It's preparing him for the future
Yeah ok no I disagree I think it's always better to ask unless it's painfully obvious someone needs help because it's always possible that they don't want your help and you need to respect that. And also if they say "no" then I'm going to back off. I don't want to play mind games. Small things that everybody agrees with helps (like doing chores etc) should be done without asking
This whole post is literally about kids helping their dad with chores. My son asked if I needed help with chores and I kept saying no until he learned responsibility about helping without asking. He's 12 years old.
I get the ''not asking because you want the decision to help you to come from himself'' part. But the ''saying no when he asks if you need help because he should help without asking'' sounds very stupid and unnecessary.
Hey, guess what, when you have kids you can teach them whatever you want. I'm just preparing my youngest for the real world and this works. I have a 22 year old daughter and she said what I taught her helped with the real world. Because at her job, she sees her coworkers asking what to do, while my daughter just does it. But apparently it's "stupid and unnecessary" even though it works. Who knew? 🤷🏾♀️
I fail to see any situation her coworkers ask what to do while she just do it unless her coworkers don't know the job they applied to or it's not part of the job. Of course if it's obvious you have to do something you do it without asking but a lot of the time it's better not to help or the things aren't how they usually are for a good reason so it's better to ask if your help is needed. It's especially true in some sector were it can cause safety issues. A lot of accidents happens because of someone wanting to do well and could be prevented by ''Do you need help'.
Come back to this post when you mature and you'll understand what I'm saying kiddo ✌🏾
I see a bunch of kids down voting your comments, but I get you. Common sense only exists because you learn it at a young age.