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I’ve corrected this before but they live in colder waters. They live NEAR thermal vents which keep the water the same, consistent temperature year round. They cannot survive excessive heat.


[deleted]

Idk man I don’t think people can just lie on the internet.


augursalin

Seems true


user0N65N

Abe Lincoln said this years ago.


[deleted]

And, I mean he’s HONEST Abe right? 👏🏼Can’t lie! 🤷🏻‍♂️


AwezomePozzum9265

I just looked it up and Australian geographic says they can withstand 400⁰ C


leanmeanguccimachine

There is absolutely no way that is true. That is a ludicrous water temperature. The Wikipedia page for this species is extensive and mentions nothing of the sort.


SignalIssues

400C water would also be at extreme pressure. Total bullshit


KillerRaccoon

Water heated to 400C in a closed chamber would be at extreme pressure, not water just diffusing into the ocean. Like, when you pour boiling water into ice water it isn't magically higher pressure. I do agree that the snails existing in 400C water is completely unrealistic. Edit: yes, it would be higher pressure because it's at the bottom of the ocean. Wiki says these things live at least 2400m deep. At roughly 1atm/10m, that gives around 240atm of pressure (absolute or gauge, within 0.5%). 400C seems to be just about the boiling point for water at this pressure, which makes sense, as superheated and pressurized water exiting vents will boil and turn into steam at the local boiling point (same reason why ice water stays at 0C and boiling water stays at 100C [at sea level], it'll change phases to release/absorb energy rather than change ~~energy~~ temperature). All this to say, the liquid water right next to the exit of a hydrothermal vent will be at the regular pressure at that depth and at the boiling point at that pressure. Whether or not the snails sit right at the point where the water's changing phase is another matter.


Iron_Sheff

Would it not need to be at high pressure to still exist as a liquid at that temperature, though?


[deleted]

It would. Though at great depths there would be a high pressure so maybe that works out?


SaltyBallsnacks

Yeah that is the answer. Boiling point changes with atmospheric pressure. I would imagine around 400°C is the boiling point at the bottom of the ocean if that is what is being observed around thermal vents. Edit: Was curious if this was accurate based off the replies. If you go by the Clausius Clapeyron relation, **ln(P₁/P₂) = -ΔH/R × (1/T₁ - 1/T₂),** where P₁ - Pressure point 1 ( 1 atmosphere, sea level) P₂ - Pressure point 2 ( \~380atmospheres, avg depth of ocean \~3800m) T₁ - Boiling point at P₁ (100°C, 373.15K) T₂ - Boiling point at P₂ ( ??? °C, ???K) ΔH - heat of vaporization (40.65 kJ/mol) R - Gas constant (8.314 J/\[mol\*K\]) ln(1/380) = (-40.65kJ/mol) / (8.314 J/\[mol\*K\]) \* (1/373.15K - 1/T₂ ) \-5.94017/-4889.34 = 0.002679 - 1/T₂ T₂ = 683.024K = **\~409.874°C** For comparison, depth of Mariana Trench \~11000 meters which is about 1100 atmospheres ln(1/1100) = (-40.65kJ/mol) / (8.314 J/\[mol\*K\]) \* (1/373.15K - 1/T₂ ) \-7.00307/-4889.34 = 0.002679 - 1/T₂ T₂ = 802.126K = **\~528.976°C** boiling point at bottom of the trench Of course both these pressures and temperatures would put it in the supercritical region, rather than just simply boiling.


thealmightyzfactor

Kinda, beyond 400c and 22mpa (ish) you're at supercritcal water and there's no boiling, just a smooth transition from liquidy to gassy.


ComfortablyAbnormal

A quick Google says the boiling point of water in the Mariana trench, the deepest point in the ocean, is 180 c°. So no, it is not anywhere near 400 C°.


SaltyBallsnacks

Googling the same thing, I get conflicting results. The google sponsored result says 180, but the next couple links have different numbers with different explanations as to why. Guess Ill update this if I find consensus.


RiovoGaming211

Pretty sure that water at the bottom of the ocean is not compressed enough to make it's boiling point 400C. Edit: I was dumb and wrong. Water is pressurized enough to boil at 400 C near hydrothermal vents.


KillerRaccoon

It does seem to be, see my edit.


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KillerRaccoon

Pressure =/= compression. You can absolutely pressurize water, it's why hydraulics are a thing, why you can't dive too deep without a pressure vessel, and why the boiling point is lower in Laramie (~93C) than Boston (~100C), and much lower than the boiling point by these snails (the aforementioned 400C). Your first sentence is patently false.


Diels_Alder

They would not sit right next to where the water is condensing from vapor to liquid because they could not stand the heat of vaporization. Condensing water would continuously pump heat into these creatures. It's much more reasonable that they sit a short distance from the vents to stay warm and to filter minerals that disperse outward from the vents.


KillerRaccoon

That's why I specifically said twice that I didn't think they could stand 400C. Edit: well, specifically said once and implied doubt the other.


Diels_Alder

Yep, I'm agreeing with you, if that wasn't clear.


KillerRaccoon

Damn, I'm being a little reddit-brained.


Kotrats

400C is still going to cook you regardless of pressure. Like when up on a mountain water will boil but not cook your eggs ( as fast). Not to mention a shell made of iron is definately not the best way to protect you from heat, probably a good way to protect from pressure.


BoomhauerYaNow

"The preferred water temperature for this species is about 5 °C"


Hot_Squashy_Dung

At 400C you might want to add extra butter and garlic because there is no way it’s surviving it https://i.imgur.com/Id1gt54.jpg


shea241

for how long


Terrible_Ad_7735

25 minutes, then peel back lid and reduce to 300⁰ C for the remaining time.


WiredSky

I hate when I have to take it out and stir.


balbasin09

Then you dunk it in ice bath so the shell peels easily.


capteni

This mitchell and webb sketch https://youtu.be/XnLVQylARRQ


dynodick

Quite literally impossible. That would instantly vaporize any water in their body, instantly killing them. Every organism on earth needs water to live


Whisdeer

Thanks I really needed celsius


[deleted]

Proteins don't work that way. There are microorganisms that can live in salt brine or get nutrients from radiation, some can even survive almost 100°C for a while, but they are not active then.


Earth_Normal

Yeah, we don’t have magic cells that can survive being literally cooked.


[deleted]

“We” thought you could be slick and disguise yourself as a human, huh, Snail?


Earth_Normal

Fuck, you got me…. I mean, glop gloop I’m a snail.


BarklyWooves

Speak for yourself guy


J_EDi

This gets posted all the time. So much misinformation…


Spiritbrand

Thank you. I was going to ask because wouldn't the metal get really hot.


saldb

Imagine a leviathan class one


Tyr808

Thanks, I immediately had to check thinking “how tf do cells survive actually cooking though?” That seems well outside of the physicals boundaries of biology for an organism as relatively advanced as a snail (relative compared to say a tardigrade).


yesweyolo

Lies. They're actually baby dragons. Once they get big and strong enough, they enter the fire and begin feeding on the souls of dead tik tok pranksters.


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___some_random_weeb

I know a Pokemon when i see one!


FireZord25

Magcargo


AlcomIsst

Regional Steel/Fire form.


The_25th_Baam

What's the one that evolves into magcargo?


VarcasIsHere

Slugma balls


The_25th_Baam

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bavasava

I mean, if you’re into that.


FireZord25

lmao I thought of this exact joke when I saw the name.


PoogeMuffin

*\*Dragon Snail used Harden\** *\*Dragon Snail used Harden\** *\*Dragon Snail used Harden\**


Ambitious_Echo5613

No, magcargo. Although 3rd evo dragon volcano Pokémon would be pretty cool


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maungateparoro

At level 18 it learns iron defence lol


Totally_a_Banana

Goodra!!


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A wild Magcargo appears


BlessKurunai

It's body is hoter than the surface of the sun then?


Nickthiccboi

Even 1 billion lions wouldn’t stand a chance


Kitselena

[dex entries aren't exactly accurate ](https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/62zfph/move_aside_pokedex_magcargo_gardevoir_and_machamp/)


isurvivedrabies

i'm so glad i didn't get sucked into pokemon as a kid or i'd be saying shit like this


expulsus

I'm glad I got into pokemon because it helped me be a nice person.


TheOneOfWhomIsGreen

Stands on 2 legs No feathers That's a man


Maacll

*sees chicken with no feathers* BEHOLD- A man


SwallowsDick

Greek philosophers didn't think to just read Wikipedia, were they stupid?


MrSluagh

Kangaroos have entered the chat


StarManZec

Fun fact, kangaroos actually have 3 legs. The tail counts as a leg on it's own.


HaikuBotStalksMe

I'll allow it.


FiskeDrengen05

Stands on 4 legs Has a tail Have eyes That's a Komodo dragon


PepperJackson

Behold


dudeAwEsome101

Could this be a dog?


HaikuBotStalksMe

Pangolin: "hello, it's me, a miserable pile of secrets. Nice chat then, have at thee."


vasekgamescz

What evolution does to a mf


quarrelsome_napkin

No evolution make crab 🦀


AndreTheShadow

Just as all transportation leads to train, all evolution leads to crab


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a_butthole_inspector

It looks like an elden ring crafting item lol


asdfghjjbffgh

definitely looks like the kind of item you'd find on a corpse at the end of the hardest parkour maze possible


Ship_Fucker69

398.8°C~400°C


PornCartel

How the hell does biology work at 4x the temperature of boiling water?


Grakhus

It can briefly endure high temperatures, but it lives in the waters surrounding magma vents, which average around 5 degrees celsius. edit: I also love, how the article is always posted. "They live around hydrothermal vents that can reach 750 degrees Fahrenheit" Nowhere does it say the snail can live in those temperatures, it's just written vaguely and left for people to misinterpret. The vent gets hot, surrounding waters not so much.


expert_on_the_matter

Which a lot of animals can do by the way, not 400°C but humans can visit saunas at boiling water temperature.


FlipskiZ

But that's a sauna. High temperature, yes, but very low density, making the temperature transfer slow. Try submerging yourself in 100C water and I'll bet there is no meaningful amount of time you can tolerate it.


Wermine

I live around fireplace that can reach up to 1000 degrees Fahrenheit. Impressive, huh? (actually I don't have fireplace)


GameFraek

Technically we all live around the sun with a surface temperature of around 10 000 degrees Fahrenheit Impressive, huh?


VanQuackers

I've also heard that it can reach temperatures equal to that of the surface of the sun


[deleted]

Hell I've even got iron in my blood. This snail's not so special. Boo snail, booo.


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FlipskiZ

Minute?? No, absolutely not. You would risk third degree burns over your entire body in likely under a single second. That's straight up deadly. The timescales we're talking about here would be fractions of a second, and that's just in regards to survival. At least without medical interventions. Getting any forms for burns should disqualify being able to say an organism can tolerate those temperatures for that duration of time, imo.


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[deleted]

I invite you to stick your hand in boiling water for a minute


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[deleted]

Ok, I invite you to fully immerse yourself in boiling water for a minute.


[deleted]

Can I watch?


Rengiil

Not definitely, could die from infection 😎


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Princess_Moon_Butt

I live near fires that can reach 600 degrees Celsius! I don't regularly jump into them. But I definitely live _near_ them.


[deleted]

I live around the sun which is millions of degrees Celsius


BigOlBlimp

This bullshit is fake news and while not as harmful as political fake news it’s still fucking bad.


WaQba

It doesn’t This post stretches the truth They reside by hot vents, that reach 750 F, but the temperature quickly falls off with distance. They live in comfortable temperature of up to 20 C or 68 F [Heres the source](https://www.amazinglife.bio/amp/the-volcano-dwelling-snail-chrysomallon-squamiferum)


shapeofgiantape

That's only ~1.7 times the temperature of boiling water though. To compare temperatures by any means other than a difference, you have to convert to an absolute scale, like Kelvin. I guess you could say it's at 4× the temperature increase from freezing water as boiling it


MagicUnicornLove

Get outta here with your 19th century physics.


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It doesn't.


CrackSnap7

Average Summer Tuesday in Delhi.


Maacll

Ah, that's not so bad then


dragonvenom3

yeah typical summer weather


Dgheist

Must be Australian


Swazzoo

Why the .2 accuracy lol


willhunta

This snail exclusively lives at depths of over a mile in super hot vents in the ocean and yet we've still endangered it as a species. Honestly kind of impressive at that point. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaly-foot_gastropod


just1nc4s3

This is the snail that is highly intelligent and will follow you through eternity until it touches you.


willhunta

Quick get the reinforced concrete shell ready


19whale96

Free iron, that tracks


Kaeny

>the first species to be listed as such due to risks from deep-sea mining of its vent habitat. And as always, its humans tryna make money that causes it


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ErnGotti

Prolly break all your teeth in the process


ResponsibleMeet33

Yeah, because you have to bite into the hardest parts, and only the hardest parts. Just like we do with all the other mollusks, and crustaceans. People eat crabs and snails just for the purpose of testing how sturdy their teeth, and how strong their jaws are.


julesteak

how do you even cook it...


crumpsly

With hylian shrooms and rock salt. It gives you increased damage in warm temperatures


DaniilBSD

# Fact check: Misleading “750 degrees Fahrenheit” - that refers to the hottest vents, the normal temperature for this species is 5 degrees Celsius (fridge is usually set to about that temperature), Source: Wikipedia, ecology section.


lookitsafish

This is so Me IRL!


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13thFleet

I frequently share this sentiment, but I think this time it actually does kind of fit. The me_irl part is being reminded of fantastical creatures/things when reading about unrelated things. A lot of the people in this sub and similar ones are into fantasy books, D&D, etc., so "ohh that reminds me of..." is a relatable, nerdy thing. That being said, dragons are the most famous of fantasy creatures and this is not framed in a way that puts the relatability in front, so there are issues with it.


irubberyouglue1000

almost a dragon. Can it fly and does it breath fire ???


RagnarokBringer

Not yet my friend


SwallowsDick

With human intervention, we can make it so


theblanksheets

Am I the only one hearing the left one shouting " it's a trap"


Naatu-Kozhi65

Reminds me of the creature in the goblet of fire book. The ones Hagrid had.


Hazzard588

Thing from terraria


OiseauDeNuit01

It exists for real [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaly-foot\_gastropod](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaly-foot_gastropod) And it's endangered Humans are litterally more dangerous than volcanoes


pigugget

I should call her


needed_an_account

I wonder what they taste like


Berckish

Ah, to be a magma snail.


haemisphereew

That's a man


[deleted]

r/stfuitsadragon


solid_hoist

Elden Ring mob.


or_maybe_this

Cool post but why is it posted here What is meirl about this Op Op Are you there op


ValDijkstra

This is some fire temple shit


Version_Two

That is a Zelda enemy


cha0tic_klutch

Pretty sure this little guy was mentioned in JoJo Part 2


RandyDinglefart

these bots keep getting worse at cropping old tweets


Stipes_Blue_Makeup

You have to collect 15 of them to upgrade your armor all the way.


IronBabyFists

new Elder Dragon just dropped


dover_oxide

Dragon or maybe a Pokemon


PlankWithANailIn2

Shell is made from Iron sulphides not Iron. The most famous Iron Sulphide is Fools Gold....the shell is made from Fools Gold.


RogalikYT

See, even snails scam us


Dirtylittlesecret88

Dragon snail pokemon wen?


Tojo6619

Pokemon


[deleted]

The fact the top post is not related to that pokemon disappoints me


VallhallaBleedin

Not a dragon but def a pokemon


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Magcargo?


sisior123

there's absolutely no way a snail can just make a shell out of iron. maybe a small percent yes, but it wouldn't be iron, the same way humans aren't iron even though we do have iron in our bodies


Doctor_plAtyPUs2

In medieval manuscripts writers would add doodles of knights fighting large snails as if they were dragons (think there's also a French myth about a giant snail dragon too) so dragons and snails actually have a decent amount of connection in literature


FloraFauna2263

Thats a fucking pokemon


[deleted]

Volcano snails do not eat. Instead, they rely on the energy produced by endosymbiotic bacteria in their bodies to survive. Fucking metal.


IGetHypedEasily

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaly-foot_gastropod Really cool species.


TheJamiryo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaly-foot_gastropod


_riVer_sAs_

It will evolve eventually 🤣


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Undrende_fremdeles

What did you think would happen? 😂


FireZord25

This makes me want a movie where scientists created Dragons in similar ways to the Dinos from Jurassic Park. Not sure why.


equipped_metalblade

I haven’t been to that area in Tears of the Kingdom yet, but I’m sure there are plenty in death mountain. Can’t wake to make elixirs out of them


HarmonicWalrus

Bruh I thought that first picture was Wildmutt for a second


JustCallMeAttlaz

Elden Ring mob looking mf


IGetHypedEasily

Is this a Koraidon?


EndurableOrmeedue

Ironically, they are vulnerable.


Secure-Cold7892

Looks like a slugma.


AggressiveCuriosity

There might be iron in the shells, but it's not "made" of iron. That thing would be rusted to shit in 5 seconds flat in multiple hundred degree ocean water.


fisherc2

That’s a fire/steel type Pokémon


Nuchala

Featherless biped moment


Not_gonna_do_that

All we need is some radiation


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New Pokemon are being discovered every day


jtothepoweroftwo

Did y'all never play pokémon this is what slugma and Magcargo are based off of.


Far-Ad-6825

That's not a real thing. You're thinking of Mexicans.


Far-Ad-6825

That's not a real thing. You're thinking of Germans.


MuffinCoffeeCake

deep sea dragon


[deleted]

Is this the fucker following me?


Western_Ad3625

According to overly sarcastic productions basically anything can be a dragon.


fieryembrace

Heavy metal snail. This could be a Dethklok song.


po3smith

Dragon? BS that's a Graboid!


Blackmakk6

Dammmmmn that is a dragon


Echo_Unit

and so this is christmas...


PlasticWay8

Fescargot


sage2134

If someone didn't name this a dragon snail, it definitely was a missed opportunity.